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I've just seen that the Tablet S 16gb model has been reduced to £349.99 at PCWorld. That didn't take long! I might hold fire until after Christmas and see if it drops to £299.99
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/sony-s-tablet-pc-16gb-11318187-pdt.html
And the 32GB model is down from £479.99 to £429.00.
These are pretty significant price drops considering the tablet has only been out for a couple of months. Sales not too good?... Or is there a newer, faster, updated version on the horizon already? Did somebody say quad-core?...
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/sony-s-tablet-pc-32gb-11318172-pdt.html
Poor sales.
Only 500 Tablet S' have sold in the UK since September. There was an article about it but can't seem to find it now.
500, in the whole country?!
I'm not sure I believe that, but if it's true then that's shocking. Very poor.
that's impossible
anyways there is no point discussing this..it seems SONY missed the trick to ADVERTISE properly SONY S, see the status of SAMSUNG TAB!!
Samsung Tab become iconic android tab, SONY needs to learn from Samsung..
Anyways, sales are just number, IMO Sony S is better than Galaxy Tab!!
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Poor sales.
Only 500 Tablet S' have sold in the UK since September. There was an article about it but can't seem to find it now.
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Find that hard to believe, I mean wasnt some shop in UK offering a free LCD Tv with purchase of S Tablet on release? That alone would have broken 500 sales.
http://onlygizmos.com/sony-uk-managed-to-sell-only-500-android-tablets-in-over-a-month/2011/11/
that is the link btw there is no source just an anonymous one
Yup that is the link!
Global sales numbers are also below expectations according to reports.
Yes Sony has a great product but they bungled it. For the same price the iPad is a far better package and now the well-marketed kindle fire will destroy the other tablets. There's no way Sony could sell this beauty unless they integrated their content in a cheap and/or elegant way. And that ain't gonna happen.
Not sure why anyone should be shocked that the price has dropped to be honest-it happens all the time with technology and can be expected. When I bought a fancy laptop a few years back, intel released the i3, i5 and i7 a month later and the price of my laptop plummeted.
In the end though, I researched the available tablets like a madman and am completely happy with the sony tab... it does what I bought it for very well, is getting updates and will only get better in time!
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Find that hard to believe, I mean wasnt some shop in UK offering a free LCD Tv with purchase of S Tablet on release? That alone would have broken 500 sales.
http://onlygizmos.com/sony-uk-managed-to-sell-only-500-android-tablets-in-over-a-month/2011/11/
that is the link btw there is no source just an anonymous one
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Hard to believe indeed . First 100 buyers got free 32 inch led tvs. That would mean a fifth of all sales was from a single morning in a single shop. Maybe the 500 figure is not true. Just playstation association should have created more interest.
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Ok, I keep hearing around here that the TF201 is NOT being discontinued. And it seems reasonable that it would stick around. However, at my company, we had ordered 1 for the CFO and he really likes his and they are talking about ordering 6 more for other managers. The lady that does ordering called our vendor and they are saying that they talked to Asus directly and the TF201 is discontinued now. They said we would have to wait for the TF300.
Has there been any OFFICIAL announcement from Asus either way on this?
Its been discontinued for a while now as far as i know...because of all the wi-fi and GPS problems this specific model has. I believe the TF300 will be out in June or Q3 of 2012...whilest the TF700t will be out shortly after the TF300.
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Ok, I keep hearing around here that the TF201 is NOT being discontinued. And it seems reasonable that it would stick around. However, at my company, we had ordered 1 for the CFO and he really likes his and they are talking about ordering 6 more for other managers. The lady that does ordering called our vendor and they are saying that they talked to Asus directly and the TF201 is discontinued now. They said we would have to wait for the TF300.
Has there been any OFFICIAL announcement from Asus either way on this?
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I believe ASUS posted on their facebook page that the TF201 was not being discontinued and this was just a rumor. However this has been a couple months ago now so things may have changed. I also believe Gary Key stated a while back on the forums that the discontinued talk was merely a rumor.
As of March they are still manufacturing the TF201 as we have seen C3 serials show up in stores. It will be another week or two before we see C4 serials. If we don't start to see C4 serials after a couple of weeks then this would most likely indicate that it is being discontinued.
However, I strongly believe that ASUS is not and will not be discontinuing the TF201 any time soon. This is just speculation. And to answer your question as far as whether or not ASUS has provided an official statement, they have but it has been a couple of months since they did so.
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Ok, I keep hearing around here that the TF201 is NOT being discontinued. And it seems reasonable that it would stick around. However, at my company, we had ordered 1 for the CFO and he really likes his and they are talking about ordering 6 more for other managers. The lady that does ordering called our vendor and they are saying that they talked to Asus directly and the TF201 is discontinued now. They said we would have to wait for the TF300.
Has there been any OFFICIAL announcement from Asus either way on this?
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It is definitely discontinued and has been for several months, and this is evidenced by the VP of marketing on this site saying that it hasn't been discontinued. There are too many problems evidently (1% of all primes have issues).
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Its been discontinued for a while now as far as i know...because of all the wi-fi and GPS problems this specific model has. I believe the TF300 will be out in June or Q3 of 2012...whilest the TF700t will be out shortly after the TF300.
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I was not aware it had been discontinued. Why do you think this is still here?
usa.asus.com/Tablet/Transformer_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_Prime_TF201/
Not this rumor again..lmao. Prime is not being discontinued. PERIOD. End of story. The Asus representative, Gary, even said in his Unofficial thread here just recently that it wasn't going to be discontinued. They still sell it online and at Gamestop, Best Buy, and other brick n mortar stores.
Look at his more recent updates in the op of that thread and you will see. Tell your boss he needs to find another retailer selling it..lol. there are still new people popping in xda everyday with new primes. Plus there's already C3 models out now. Soon we will see C4 ones.
Plus Prime is still heavily advertised on official Asus website. If it were to be discontinued, they would've quickly and easily of removed that info from website. People overreacting..lol.
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Its been discontinued for a while now as far as i know...because of all the wi-fi and GPS problems this specific model has. I believe the TF300 will be out in June or Q3 of 2012...whilest the TF700t will be out shortly after the TF300.
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Actually the tf-700 might not release in the u.s. at all. Plus now they are saying it won't be released anywhere until end of year more than likely. Check out the other thread where someone posted an email from Asus on the infinity pad.
Plus if it were discontinued, we would constantly see new model serial numbers pop up. Don't believe all the negative discontinued hype.
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Not this rumor again..lmao. Prime is not being discontinued. PERIOD. End of story. The Asus representative, Gary, even said in his Unofficial thread here just recently that it wasn't going to be discontinued. They still sell it online and at Gamestop, Best Buy, and other brick n mortar stores.
Look at his more recent updates in the op of that thread and you will see. Tell your boss he needs to find another retailer selling it..lol. there are still new people popping in xda everyday with new primes. Plus there's already C3 models out now. Soon we will see C4 ones.
Plus Prime is still heavily advertised on official Asus website. If it were to be discontinued, they would've quickly and easily of removed that info from website. People overreacting..lol.
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Actually the tf-700 might not release in the u.s. at all. Plus now they are saying it won't be released anywhere until end of year more than likely. Check out the other thread where someone posted an email from Asus on the infinity pad.
Plus if it were discontinued, we would constantly see new model serial numbers pop up. Don't believe all the negative discontinued hype.
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Yeah I hear you... however, best buy apparently is no longer carrying it. They don't ship it online, and no Best buy within a 200 miles radius of me has it in stock. That includes most of the Twin Cities, Minneapolis/St. Paul area... I think that if they were still actively in production don't you think that somebody would have them in stock? This all seems a little fishy to me... I even looked at bigger cities for Best Buy stock and nothing in Chicago or California area either... The only reason I got mine was because it was a open box that I got at my local Best Buy about a month ago. And mine is one of the older S/Ns, BCOKAS.
Just an observation...
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Yeah I hear you... however, best buy apparently is no longer carrying it. They don't ship it online, and no Best buy within a 200 miles radius of me has it in stock. That includes most of the Twin Cities, Minneapolis/St. Paul area... I think that if they were still actively in production don't you think that somebody would have them in stock? This all seems a little fishy to me... I even looked at bigger cities for Best Buy stock and nothing in Chicago or California area either... The only reason I got mine was because it was a open box that I got at my local Best Buy about a month ago. And mine is one of the older S/Ns, BCOKAS.
Just an observation...
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That's a good observation. I think its more of Asus retooling or adding new components to newer/future primes to eliminate possible issues. We have seen other similar letters like in op stating that. Plus prime can still be found online and at Gamestop. I know the one in my area has them in stock because I called the other day looking for a dock. They said they had no docks ATM, that they only had the tablet itself in stock at that store. Plus there are alot more places than best buy online that would have it. Still doesn't explain the flood of new owners showing up in prime forum everyday. Still doesn't explain why Asus still advertises it on their official u.s. and global website. Which is always updated with new info on products they carry.
I don't feed into the negative stuff as it tends to come more from past complainers and trolls. They love to stir up stuff in prime forum for others. Looking at everything in a negative way and put some crazy spin on things.
I had my Prime since 12/22. An early BCOKA model and works great. Haven't had any real problems with it. Wifi works great on it as I compared it to my Ipad wifi and atrix wifi. Prime is right on par or better than my other units.
It is not being discontinued but im sure if it weren't for the Prime owners complaining, they would've discontinued it. There are clear wifi/gps problems with the Prime due to the aluminum back (hence why their new line has a rubber/plastic strip). There is no reason for ASUS to have so many lines of products with such little differences.
And I'm gonna make a bold guess here, but I think they would much rather replace the Prime with the TF700 and make it $500 instead of $600. The reason they are making it $600 is so that it will seem like a "premium" Prime instead of a Prime replacement. Placing the TF700 at $600 would mean that it surpasses the price of the iPad that has a even higher res display and LTE. And frankly, the general consumer is unlikely to buy a Android tab that is as expensive as the iPad let alone more expensive.
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It is not being discontinued but im sure if it weren't for the Prime owners complaining, they would've discontinued it. There are clear wifi/gps problems with the Prime due to the aluminum back (hence why their new line has a rubber/plastic strip). There is no reason for ASUS to have so many lines of products with such little differences.
And I'm gonna make a bold guess here, but I think they would much rather replace the Prime with the TF700 and make it $500 instead of $600. The reason they are making it $600 is so that it will seem like a "premium" Prime instead of a Prime replacement. Placing the TF700 at $600 would mean that it surpasses the price of the iPad that has a even higher res display and LTE. And frankly, the general consumer is unlikely to buy a Android tab that is as expensive as the iPad let alone more expensive.
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I second that. I believe tf700 will completely replace TF201.
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i want to see the tf300 already! didn't it already go through the fcc?
My honest opinion is..
Why when the new models come out would they carry on making a Tablet that even Asus admits is flawed due to all Aluminium back.
Think Logically if the new models were available now & after reviewing options, would you purchase the TF201 ?
I do not think when new models are released there will be very little, if any demand for the Prime, so the Prime really is living on borrowed time.
As for Demandarins statement
Plus Prime is still heavily advertised on official Asus website. If it were to be discontinued, they would've quickly and easily of removed that info from website
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Surely you are not that naive, Asus would not admit to prime being discontinued untill it has replacement in shops, they want to keep selling primes untill replacement is in shops. Admitting it was discontinued now would greatly affect Sales.
Within 2 or 3 months of the TF300/700 being released the Prime will meet a quiet quick demise.
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I own a prime & dock which I am quite happy with apart from useless GPS
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Yeah I hear you... however, best buy apparently is no longer carrying it. They don't ship it online, and no Best buy within a 200 miles radius of me has it in stock. That includes most of the Twin Cities, Minneapolis/St. Paul area... I think that if they were still actively in production don't you think that somebody would have them in stock?
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Just your area. Prime is still available from Best Buy, not online, you just have to search local stores for inventory. Several around me are in stock atm.
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My honest opinion is..
Why when the new models come out would they carry on making a Tablet that even Asus admits is flawed due to all Aluminium back.
Think Logically if the new models were available now & after reviewing options, would you purchase the TF201 ?
I do not think when new models are released there will be very little, if any demand for the Prime, so the Prime really is living on borrowed time.
As for Demandarins statement
Surely you are not that naive, Asus would not admit to prime being discontinued untill it has replacement in shops, they want to keep selling primes untill replacement is in shops. Admitting it was discontinued now would greatly affect Sales.
Within 2 or 3 months of the TF300/700 being released the Prime will meet a quiet quick demise.
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I own a prime & dock which I am quite happy with apart from useless GPS
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I would easily purchase the prime over those 2. here's why. I don't want a lower spec 300 model. its less powerful, less battery life, display not as good. its regular ips, not ips+ like on prime. plus FCC report already shows 300 wireless performance can't be expected to be better than prime. especially with wifi/BT used at the same time. I don't want a tf-700 model because it will cost more. has less battery life than prime. plus, according to an email posted by another member is from Asus VP of technical whatever states no plans for u.s. release of infinity pad and it won't be released anywhere till the end of the year likely. check it out. so I have no reason to wait. fully satisfied with my prime.
we are still seeing new serial number Models pop up. we had Asus publicly and on this forum stating Prime will not be discontinued. AND YES, ASUS ADMITTED TO LESS THAN 1% OF UNITS HAVING ISSUES AND BEING RETURNED. It was stated on Cnet interview, which they said makes sense, and Gary explained it on this site. So no real concrete proof pointing to them discontinuing it. Come with some better info to back up the claim and then maybe me n others might believe it also. till then, just speculation and false rumors just like the other stuff floating around.
all their tablets now fit a particular price range including the prime. so I would easily take it over the others. its the thinnest and lightest. plus performs great all around. Plus Asus wouldn't happen to be working on a big announcement concerning prime if it were to be discontinued. they wouldn't even have bothered spending the money or research behind a fix to a product to be discontinued. they would just focus on future products instead and let prime die off.
better luck next time. Prime will live on. We will continue to knock all these false rumors down one by one..lmao
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We will have to wait and see who is right
For me the I'm in the Prime is on its Way Out Camp. My guess is TF700 will come out costing $100 more & within very short time primes funeral & TF700's price will drop to what prime is now to compete with that fruity competitor.
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@demandarin
We will have to wait and see who is right
For me the I'm in the Prime is on its Way Out Camp. My guess is TF700 will come out costing $100 more & within very short time primes funeral & TF700's price will drop to what prime is now to compete with that fruity competitor.
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You have my $5 on that.
Dem, if you look at it, there is definitely no place for TF201 in the pad line up. 3 of them overlap each other too much.
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You have my $5 on that.
Dem, if you look at it, there is definitely no place for TF201 in the pad line up. 3 of them overlap each other too much.
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I do agree, the devices are spec similar. BUT at least its more of a major difference compared to Samsung lineup of tablets. they have all different lineup and spec similar. except for one thing, all their stuff is highly overpriced. at least Asus has a more reasonable priceline.
I can see prime ending around next winter or so. but by then that's the natural cycle of tablets ending anyways. Tf-700 has already been stated to not release till the end of the year. check the letter from Asus VP of something thread. so that gives prime plenty of time to still sell. by the time tf-700 finally comes out, it'll be the natural ending cycle for prime anyways. that's how technology is.
with the specs of the prime, it still has a place that fits in the lineup. regardless what some may believe. then you have the Asus built Google nexus tegra3 7in. tablet said to come out. ill say prime won't be discontinued anytime soon. for any product, there always come a time down the road when its discontinued. Wait till the announcement is released then tell me again does it make sense that they will discontinue the prime.
lets say they do discontinue it soon, so what..lol. it won't stop my Prime from functioning or performing great. it won't stop the major developement we already have for it. it still won't stop up getting updates, at least for a good while. So prime owners good either way. they already discontinuing the tf-101 less than a year from being released. to have it replaced by 300 model. tf-101 model just got ICS so it's still receiving support. Discontinued or not, Asus supports their products down the road. So I'm not worried anyways. I already plan on keeping my prime till Tegra4 releases at the end of the year. So once people finally able to buy infinity pad, Asus will announce the new Tegra4 powered Transformer pad..lmao. tegra4 is worth the wait if you already own a prime, IMO. nothing else announced to come out really grabs my interest. except to tegra3 powered Google nexus tablet built by Asus. that'll be so cheap ill get one anyways. most other new tablets coming out for android will be tegra3 powered anyways. there's like over 12 tablets announced and set to release eventually that will be tegra3 powered. they all are listed in another thread.
So ill take that bet also. if I lose, ill gladly admit I was wrong. but people make it seem like this will happen in the next month or something...lol. prime will be discontinued on its natural cycle ending date for tablets.
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I do agree, the devices are spec similar. BUT at least its more of a major difference compared to Samsung lineup of tablets. they have all different lineup and spec similar. except for one thing, all their stuff is highly overpriced. at least Asus has a more reasonable priceline.
I can see prime ending around next winter or so. but by then that's the natural cycle of tablets ending anyways. Tf-700 has already been stated to not release till the end of the year. check the letter from Asus VP of something thread. so that gives prime plenty of time to still sell. by the time tf-700 finally comes out, it'll be the natural ending cycle for prime anyways. that's how technology is.
with the specs of the prime, it still has a place that fits in the lineup. regardless what some may believe. then you have the Asus built Google nexus tegra3 7in. tablet said to come out. ill say prime won't be discontinued anytime soon. for any product, there always come a time down the road when its discontinued. Wait till the announcement is released then tell me again does it make sense that they will discontinue the prime.
lets say they do discontinue it soon, so what..lol. it won't stop my Prime from functioning or performing great. it won't stop the major developement we already have for it. it still won't stop up getting updates, at least for a good while. So prime owners good either way. they already discontinuing the tf-101 less than a year from being released. to have it replaced by 300 model. tf-101 model just got ICS so it's still receiving support. Discontinued or not, Asus supports their products down the road. So I'm not worried anyways. I already plan on keeping my prime till Tegra4 releases at the end of the year. So once people finally able to buy infinity pad, Asus will announce the new Tegra4 powered Transformer pad..lmao. tegra4 is worth the wait if you already own a prime, IMO. nothing else announced to come out really grabs my interest. except to tegra3 powered Google nexus tablet built by Asus. that'll be so cheap ill get one anyways. most other new tablets coming out for android will be tegra3 powered anyways. there's like over 12 tablets announced and set to release eventually that will be tegra3 powered. they all are listed in another thread.
So ill take that bet also. if I lose, ill gladly admit I was wrong. but people make it seem like this will happen in the next month or something...lol. prime will be discontinued on its natural cycle ending date for tablets.
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last i heard they were debating on tegra 3 vs something else for the nexus tablet. something changed?
also kindle fire 2 will be coming out around the end of the year with tegra 3. i guess we'll see how the battery life measures up. but if you are in the market at present for something with good battery life..the acer iconia a510 contains a 13 hr video playback battery life according to its specs.
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I would easily purchase the prime over those 2. here's why.
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Didnt you say a while back, that the 300 would have been your pick if it was available back then when the prime came out?
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last i heard they were debating on tegra 3 vs something else for the nexus tablet. something changed?
also kindle fire 2 will be coming out around the end of the year with tegra 3. i guess we'll see how the battery life measures up. but if you are in the market at present for something with good battery life..the acer iconia a510 contains a 13 hr video playback battery life according to its specs.
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hold up..First thing is first..lmfao. where in da world did you hear kindle fire2 will have tegra3 also? I've never seen any hint of that. could be possible but very shocking. I doubt they will use that chip as its out of their league..lol.
To your first statement, they were debating ln it at first. now this is all according to tech sites rumors and speculations. at first it was said to have tegra3. then we heard to cut down on price they were going to use a lesser spec chip. then just recently, all reports show them going back with tegra3 and they will city costs elsewhere, which I think is good idea. Google nexus tablet needs to be powerful and low priced. this is to look more enticing than kindle fire or nook. so the latest spec on nexus tablet is that it will be made by Asus and still will use tegra3.
I heard about that Acer battery life. we will have to see what the real battery life performance will be once it releases. Prime + Dock still has best battery life of all. 18+ hrs. estimated battery life combined. plenty of people came in this forum and said if you think Asus has problems, Acer is alot worse. it'll be like going from jumping into a small fire to jumping into a volcano..lol. so I'm very skeptical on Acer products based on what other Acer owners that passed through here have said.
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Didnt you say a while back, that the 300 would have been your pick if it was available back then when the prime came out?
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if it was before prime was ever announced or released. sure. its cheaper priced. but I have no regrets on my prime purchase at all. it has performed to well for me. I wouldn't downgrade or get rid of my prime to get a lower spec 300. I do love the new colors though. I think the whole Asus line of tablets will be good. it will just depend on how much you can afford or willing tl spend. not everyone wants to dish out $500-700 for a prime or infinity pad. only reason I spent this much on a prime because I bought it as a Christmas gift to myself. plus I know its more than powerful enough that I won't need another tablet for a long time. Tegra4 powered Asus tablet is what I'm waiting for next. till then, prime does everything I ask of it just fine. This really is a great tablet. I never use my Ipad anymore. Prime is soo sexy Sleek n lightweight. lol
I got word today from a source. Not sure if it is really reliable, but it certainly sounds like Asus to me.
Asus has NO plans at all to release their 700 model until winter/Christmas holidays so they can reap in the big sales. Of course they had a couple at the electronics show, but that was just a prototype model and Asus wanted to make some headlines to boost sales. This is why they are very quiet about release time during the electronics show because they didn't want to tell anyone it would be months and months away. Bad publicity if they were to do that. It does kind of make sense a little. They completely failed on the release of their TF201 which never made Christmas/winter holiday and has been difficult to buy ever since. Asus just doesn't want that many TF201's out there, hence the very slow production rate. It was difficult to buy an TF201 3 months even after it came out. That should tell you something. I was told they released the 300 model just to be available for the potential customer's that didn't want all the issues and problems with the TF201. This is why they are almost identical. What to believe? Who knows. I do believe we won't see the TF700 until late, late this year. It does make a little sense to me and I never did understand why the TF201 was so hard to get 3 months after release.
some of it makes sense, alot doesn't. if Asus didn't want to sell prime, they could've easily stopped producing and stopped selling them. its hard for some people to get a hold of. for others its easy. Prime is still being sold. The 300 wasn't released to mask problems of prime. they always had this 3 tablet lineup in mind. I agree the 700 won't be out anytime soon, at least here in U.S.
take everything with a grain of salt. for the simple fact that people were speculating prime being discontinued only a week or 2 after release, and here we are over 6months later and its still available and being sold says alot. people working at Bestbuy here said they have plenty of them and shipments still coming in. it would probably be better if Asus were to wait to the holidays to release, they should release it with new android jellybean firmware and possibly a newer tegra3 chip. Last thing Asus needs to do is to rush a product again. they will release once they feel confident in the best timing for it.
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so they can reap in the big sales.
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And the couple of hundred thousand they could sell before that would somehow prevent them from selling them for the holidays? If people are buying tablets now regardless of brand their off the market for the holidays anyway.
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I got word today from a source. Not sure if it is really reliable, but it certainly sounds like Asus to me.
Asus has NO plans at all to release their 700 model until winter/Christmas holidays so they can reap in the big sales. Of course they had a couple at the electronics show, ....
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Engadget are reporting that the Asus Transformer Pad Infinity has hit the FCC.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/21/asus-transformer-pad-infinity-series-hits-the-fcc/
Wouldn't Asus wait a bit before applying for FCC approval if Christmas was the release date in NA? What about back to school/college market in August?
The cheaper 300 is aimed for students and back to school market.
The tf201 seems extremely hard to get, even at this point I live in NL and very few shops have it In stock, and if they have it they have very few, luckly I got one of the last ones, I sent it back to Asus because the camera didn't work , 3 weeks in not a word from them, and tbh releasing the tf700t in winter is kind of bad, the iconia tab a700 is around the corner, so I may just get that instead
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Ya it makes more sense to me to release it sooner than later, look at the playbook, they waited too long with their dual core tablet and gave samsung and HTC a chance to catch up. If RIM had released the playbook before christmas like they should have they would have stolen a lot of sales from sammy and HTC.
As long as they can get a decent supply down i see no reason for Asus to wait. Just as long as they take control of their QC issues.
Later would definitely be bad news, granted the 600 nit screen is a selling point for a lot of people, but knowing that the a700 isn't going to have the lightbleed problems AsusQC has missed out on allot of the time may be what pushes me that way. I can handle the heat with a case. You'd think Asus would want that tablet out sooner than later, because the note10.1 will appeal to more of the mass public as well.
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The tf201 seems extremely hard to get, even at this point I live in NL and very few shops have it In stock, and if they have it they have very few, luckly I got one of the last ones, I sent it back to Asus because the camera didn't work , 3 weeks in not a word from them, and tbh releasing the tf700t in winter is kind of bad, the iconia tab a700 is around the corner, so I may just get that instead
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Excellent point, if the problems that the prime has are not completely taken care of I will have to consider other tab makers should I choose to update. The screen and form factor kept me with Asus so far, but the reboots on a machine that's 500+ dollars is unacceptable at this point for any reason. And I'm sure the infinity will retail for more, so it might be in the same price range as a W8 tab. Point is if I'm dropping over half a grand at the very least the basic functions better be flawless.
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I got word today from a source. Not sure if it is really reliable, but it certainly sounds like Asus to me.
Asus has NO plans at all to release their 700 model until winter/Christmas holidays so they can reap in the big sales. Of course they had a couple at the electronics show, but that was just a prototype model and Asus wanted to make some headlines to boost sales. This is why they are very quiet about release time during the electronics show because they didn't want to tell anyone it would be months and months away. Bad publicity if they were to do that. It does kind of make sense a little. They completely failed on the release of their TF201 which never made Christmas/winter holiday and has been difficult to buy ever since. Asus just doesn't want that many TF201's out there, hence the very slow production rate. It was difficult to buy an TF201 3 months even after it came out. That should tell you something. I was told they released the 300 model just to be available for the potential customer's that didn't want all the issues and problems with the TF201. This is why they are almost identical. What to believe? Who knows. I do believe we won't see the TF700 until late, late this year. It does make a little sense to me and I never did understand why the TF201 was so hard to get 3 months after release.
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Hmm, a lot of it doesn't make sense.
1.) Releasing a product for Christmas is traditionally one of the worst time of the year to launch a new product.
2.) Acer A700, product with similar spec to Asus Infinity 700 just went through FCC....
3.) Even if Infinity 700 gets released with Jelly Bean, I doubt it'll be the flagship Jelly Bean tablet (unless the rumored 7 in. Google/Asus tablet is scrapped)... And by releasing late in the yr for "Christmas"... Asus is looking at competition from W8 tablets, possible Apple 7in. variant iPad .. & already released Android tablets with very similar spec with the possibility of discounted price.
4.) Finally, showing off Infinity Pad 700 as prototype pissed off Prime owners & it sets up for major failure if the initial plan was to launch the product a full year later (a year worth of PR can have very negative effect).
The only possibility based on this rumor is...
1.) Tegra 3 version of Infinity 700 is scrapped for US at least..
2.) Asus will release S4 dual-core 3g/4g LTE version at the end of the year through US carriers... this sort of makes sense.
Actually, the Infinity 700 just went through the FCC as well. There's no way they did that 6 months ahead of time.
opentoe said:
I got word today from a source. Not sure if it is really reliable, but it certainly sounds like Asus to me.
Asus has NO plans at all to release their 700 model until winter/Christmas holidays so they can reap in the big sales. Of course they had a couple at the electronics show, but that was just a prototype model and Asus wanted to make some headlines to boost sales. This is why they are very quiet about release time during the electronics show because they didn't want to tell anyone it would be months and months away. Bad publicity if they were to do that. It does kind of make sense a little. They completely failed on the release of their TF201 which never made Christmas/winter holiday and has been difficult to buy ever since. Asus just doesn't want that many TF201's out there, hence the very slow production rate. It was difficult to buy an TF201 3 months even after it came out. That should tell you something. I was told they released the 300 model just to be available for the potential customer's that didn't want all the issues and problems with the TF201. This is why they are almost identical. What to believe? Who knows. I do believe we won't see the TF700 until late, late this year. It does make a little sense to me and I never did understand why the TF201 was so hard to get 3 months after release.
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The TF700 will be released by the end of Q2, in fact it just passed FCC approval. As to the other points, your source is severely messed up.
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Actually, the Infinity 700 just went through the FCC as well. There's no way they did that 6 months ahead of time.
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That's basically what I said in an earlier post.
Thanks to Gary for confirming a late Q2 release. I hope this is all of NA and not just a USA release.
Who still skeptical now? Lol
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The TF700 will be released by the end of Q2, in fact it just passed FCC approval. As to the other points, your source is severely messed up.
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Thanks for the clarfication. it was like I said before. [email protected] sources being severely messed up.
to the doubters lol
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That's basically what I said in an earlier post.
Thanks to Gary for confirming a late Q2 release. I hope this is all of NA and not just a USA release.
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Its for overseas first, I believe. Na release will follow afterwards. this can change though. they call the shots. could surprise everyone and release all at once.
I'm ok with the Prime right now.They just need to fix these dang browser issues. Tegra 3 (Quad Core) should be just as fast a laptop..if not faster at browsing web pages.But the next update better be the answer I've been waiting on or it's hello W8 tablet,Samsung tablet. They actually have 2 speakers on their new budget tablet facing the user (brilliant). Yet the TF700 will still have the same design as the TF201 with the speaker facing away from the user which makes you have to put your hand near it to hear it good. Asus needs to take some damn notes on design for 1 thing !!
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I hope this is all of NA and not just a USA release.
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+1 on that one.
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Gary Key said:
The TF700 will be released by the end of Q2, in fact it just passed FCC approval. As to the other points, your source is severely messed up.
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Thank you Gary! Your confirmation will be appreciated by many here just itching to get their hands on this table....myself included
Already pre-ordered the Infinity 64GB + Dock in Norway, so I'm glad to see it's confirmed for Q2.
To put it this way, if the Infinity delays to Q3 or Q4, I will most likely buy a Win8-tablet instead. And I'm pretty sure I'm not alone with those thoughts
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Ya it makes more sense to me to release it sooner than later, look at the playbook, they waited too long with their dual core tablet and gave samsung and HTC a chance to catch up. If RIM had released the playbook before christmas like they should have they would have stolen a lot of sales from sammy and HTC.
As long as they can get a decent supply down i see no reason for Asus to wait. Just as long as they take control of their QC issues.
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People are buying new Primes today with QC issues.
Gary Key said:
The TF700 will be released by the end of Q2, in fact it just passed FCC approval. As to the other points, your source is severely messed up.
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Apparently my source is "messed up", so lets move on to an more important issue.
Assuming the TF700 will be about $600-$700 (it is a step up from the Prime) can you confirm there finally will be quality control on these products and all the features work like intended? I've had 5 Prime tablets. All with QC issues. If I would ever consider buying another Asus product again I'd like to hear from the source itself. If not, I'll just make a half mortgage payment.
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assuming the tf700 will be about $600-$700 (it is a step up from the prime) can you confirm there finally will be quality control on these products and all the features work like intended? I've had 5 prime tablets. All with qc issues. If i would ever consider buying another asus product again i'd like to hear from the source itself. If not, i'll just make a half mortgage payment.
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The new app is awesome. It offers many new features and flexability. Only one major problem for preexisting Android users. Now you have to pay to access over the internet while preexisting Apple users do not. http://support-splashtop2.splashtop.com/entries/21825816
*Update*
Seems they have deleted that post (or blocked me one or the other). Now they are offering 1 year free Access Anywhere to preexisting customers. Looks like there are a bunch of people that are upset https://play.google.com/store/apps/...yLDEsImNvbS5zcGxhc2h0b3AucmVtb3RlLnBhZC52MiJd
*Update 2*
I am satisfied with the resolution offered by Splashtop. Personally I think the added features make it the best remote client for Android.
Does the new app offer any significant changes? I only just got around to trying the one included with the Asus stuff, it's pretty neat.
Yes, usability is greatly improved.
1 Year Free Access Anywhere
Is anyone taking them up on the one year free offer?
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Is anyone taking them up on the one year free offer?
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I will if they change it to a "For life" deal, just like what they have for iOS users. Everyone should get onto the app page and give it one star, and post their disapproval all over Splashtop's page until the backlash makes them realize how wrong they were to pull this on us, and how bad this was for their reputation.
Is this year free deal only in the U.S? I don't see it anywhere in the description? In Canada btw.
Edit: see it now, its under any negative review. But honestly they should give us lifetime for free as well
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Is this year free deal only in the U.S? I don't see it anywhere in the description? In Canada btw.
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The year free is only if you had previously purchased Splashtop HD or THD. All new users (iOS or Android) have to pay for Access Anywhere. The offer was given in the user reviews on Google Play. It is their response to the backlash of existing customers.
Thank you for your feedback and support. We understand you have bought Splashtop HD. If you can send an email to [email protected] with your Splashtop ID and Gmail address used to purchase Splashtop HD, we will proceed to give you 1-year Anywhere Access Pack for free. Thank you again, Mark Splashtop CEO
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But honestly they should give us lifetime for free as well
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Exactly. We have to put the pressure one for 100% equal treatment for Android and iOS users alike, no compromises.
Make your voices heard on their FB page: http://www.facebook.com/Splashtop
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The year free is only if you had previously purchased Splashtop HD or THD. All new users (iOS or Android) have to pay for Access Anywhere. The offer was given in the user reviews on Google Play. It is their response to the backlash of existing customers.
Thank you for your feedback and support. We understand you have bought Splashtop HD. If you can send an email to [email protected] with your Splashtop ID and Gmail address used to purchase Splashtop HD, we will proceed to give you 1-year Anywhere Access Pack for free. Thank you again, Mark Splashtop CEO
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Thanks yah I see it now, didn't think to look in the in the reviews. And I own THD so I'm not pleased about having to pay again for this. Already left a review stating this. Thanks though!
Maybe I'm missing something but what is the big difference here?
I have Splashtop THD and the only thing I noticed different is that it offers pinch/zoom.
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Exactly. We have to put the pressure one for 100% equal treatment for Android and iOS users alike, no compromises.
Make your voices heard on their FB page: http://www.facebook.com/Splashtop
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Yeah! Equal treatment! We have to force them to make the app $2.99 on Android!
I would easily pay $2.99 to get a lifetime subscription like previous iOS customers get.
Instead, I get the app for free but have to pay $.99 per month or $9.99 per year once my free year is up.
Somehow they thought this was a good marketing plan?
They try to give reasons such as how in the iOS app store it was made as a replacement app so they are forced to give lifetime subs to previous customers. How is that now supposed to be OUR problem?
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hairdewx said:
I would easily pay $2.99 to get a lifetime subscription like previous iOS customers get.
Instead, I get the app for free but have to pay $.99 per month or $9.99 per year once my free year is up.
Somehow they thought this was a good marketing plan?
They try to give reasons such as how in the iOS app store it was made as a replacement app so they are forced to give lifetime subs to previous customers. How is that now supposed to be OUR problem?
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WOW.
It looks like they are burning the midnight oil. I sent an email at 1am PST and within 30 minutes they responded:
Thanks very much to be a loyal user. we do appreciate your continuous support.
We've enabled LIFETIME anywhere access for your account, enjoy!
it's really appreciated if you can rate us with 5 star.
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It looks like they are starting to see why people are reacting so adversely. All we want is consistency.
I purchased Splashtop THD, have Splashtop HD that came with my ASUS TF201, and also have Splashtop Mobile purchased through the Amazon app store.
So I emailed them a few days ago, and they just responded saying they are giving me 2 years free. A little strange since some are getting lifetime, others a year, and I'm getting 2 years. But I'm ok with that, there will probably be a new version out before the 2 years is up anyways. So email them personally, they'll give you something.
They gave me lifetime as well. When they also explained that iOS users have to pay to download the app, it made more sense of how in the long run, the costs to both parties should be comparable. It seems that each new version would cost iOS users $$ to download, while our subscriptions guarantee us free downloads of any new versions that are released. It would be better however, if they can fix the problem and use the same exact model for both parties. Overall, I feel they are doing the best they can now with the difficulties presented to them, and hopefully it all get fixed soon.
Where do I find my Splashtop I'D?
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app
The first comprehensive review
Slashgear
https://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-review-05498280/
The Verge
https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/5/16253308/samsung-galaxy-note-8-review
Engadget
https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/05/samsung-galaxy-note-8-review/
Android Authority
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-review-795053/
Android Central review
https://www.androidcentral.com/sams...feature&utm_campaign=navigation&utm_source=ac
Android Police
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...w-overpriced-s8-pen-still-pretty-great-phone/
i notice biggest disagreement with all current reviews is the battery, some say its charge lasts too short, some say its about right right and some praise it. I suspect results will also differ based on CPU.
My favourite so far MrMobile [Michael Fisher]
What's with all the reviews saying this phone is a tough sell or hard to recommend? It seriously must be from people who don't use the S-pen often. It's what makes this phone phenomenal. It's not a toss in. It's irreplaceable.
They also seem to say you shouldn't need to upgrade from your S8+... No kidding, this isn't for those people (generally).
PsiPhiDan said:
What's with all the reviews saying this phone is a tough sell or hard to recommend? It seriously must be from people who don't use the S-pen often. It's what makes this phone phenomenal. It's not a toss in. It's irreplaceable.
They also seem to say you shouldn't need to upgrade from your S8+... No kidding, this isn't for those people (generally).
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It's basically the price. $900+ is new territory for a non-niche smartphone that reviewers are simply having a difficult time recommending people spend that much money without some mind blowing feature like a front fingerprint sensor embedded onto the screen or the first next gen processor of the year or a battery that gives 5000 mAH while remaining the same size or free wireless earbuds or a phone that will make you scrambled eggs and toast in the morning. Unfortunately, when the next iPhone rolls around for $1000+, those same reviewers will sing praises because it has new mind-blowing features like a bezel-less screen and all-glass construction and wireless charging.
harveydent said:
It's basically the price. $900+ is new territory for a non-niche smartphone that reviewers are simply having a difficult time recommending people spend that much money without some mind blowing feature like a front fingerprint sensor embedded onto the screen or the first next gen processor of the year or a battery that gives 5000 mAH while remaining the same size or free wireless earbuds or a phone that will make you scrambled eggs and toast in the morning. Unfortunately, when the next iPhone rolls around for $1000+, those same reviewers will sing praises because it has new mind-blowing features like a bezel-less screen and all-glass construction and wireless charging.
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Haha, agreed on that last part. It'll be sickening.
PsiPhiDan said:
What's with all the reviews saying this phone is a tough sell or hard to recommend? It seriously must be from people who don't use the S-pen often. It's what makes this phone phenomenal. It's not a toss in. It's irreplaceable.
They also seem to say you shouldn't need to upgrade from your S8+... No kidding, this isn't for those people (generally).
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If the differences between the S8+ and the Note 8 were the same as the differences between "Current iPhone" and "Upcoming iPhone", the tech media would call it "game changing" and "revolutionary". If an Android handset does try to do something different, like the secondary screen on the V10, the tech media calls it a gimmick. Tech journos would lick the sweat off of Tim Cooks balls and tell everyone it was a lovely unwooded Chardonnay with hints of citrus fruit.
harveydent said:
Unfortunately, when the next iPhone rolls around for $1000+, those same reviewers will sing praises because it has new mind-blowing features like a bezel-less screen and all-glass construction and wireless charging.
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They be slinging shills to pay da bills.
Besides Erica Griffin very few reviewers understand the demographic that use the Note series
jah said:
Besides Erica Griffin very few reviewers understand the demographic that use the Note series
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I'll be interested to see her review on the Note 8 as, like you said, she seems to understand the fan-base that will be buying this phone.
Probably best to use this thread to add all reviews to it now. This is my review after 1 Week, with some tips and camera showcase. I had been using iPhone 7 Plus for a whole year as my main phone.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/09/21/samsung-galaxy-note-8-review-1-week-later-camera-showcase/
PsiPhiDan said:
What's with all the reviews saying this phone is a tough sell or hard to recommend? It seriously must be from people who don't use the S-pen often. It's what makes this phone phenomenal. It's not a toss in. It's irreplaceable.
They also seem to say you shouldn't need to upgrade from your S8+... No kidding, this isn't for those people (generally).
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You are banging your head against a brick wall.
So few people understand the purpose of the Note range. They compare the Note 8 with the SGS8+ etc etc. Makes me wonder how such people can call themselves technical reviewers? I have seen this with EVERY Note released.
So few seem to understand the Note is not for everyone, it fills a clearly defined niche. There is the Galaxy 8 RANGE of mobiles and they are non comparable. The 8 is aimed at the majority who desire a top flag ship mobile. The 8+ is for those who want extra size and what we now call a 'phablet'. The Note 8 is exactly what it says, its mobile aimed at those who USE the bloody S-pen!
If you only new how puzzled I get when I read a post here or see a review where the poster says he has bought the Note but never uses the S-pen and then goes on to criticise the device?? I simply dont get it.
WHO WHO WHO goes to buy a car, lets say a Merc' E series, and compares the coupe with the saloon and the cabriolet? Who are these people? Three different cars to suit three different customers, with three different needs.
Like I have written previously, it's a shame the Note 8 has a greater IQ than 'some' of its critics.
However.............
Ryland :highfive:
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jah said:
The first comprehensive review
Slashgear
https://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-review-05498280/
The Verge
https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/5/16253308/samsung-galaxy-note-8-review
Engadget
https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/05/samsung-galaxy-note-8-review/
Android Authority
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-review-795053/
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Thanks for the post, must have taken you some time to arrange this for us. :good:
My comment is NOT aimed at you.
What qualifies a Youtube poster as "Professional" ? If one means salaried that's fine. I fear when most people read the term 'professional' they automatically think of a person with professional training and qualifications like an engineer etc.
In reality I suspect the vast majority of those who write or post review-clips are enthusiast's like us or just amateur's at best trying to earn a living?
A real professional review, and they are rare, will not pass an opinion only lay down the scientific facts for us to make our own conclusion, they are objective.
Far too often such 'so called reviews' are highly subjective and some are even based on financial rewards thus making them totally subjective and biased.
The problem is today anyone of us can open a Youtube account and post what clips we like. Must be very difficult for the novice buyer in today's market not knowing what to read-view or what is creditable and non creditable.
I am rather thankful I have been purchasing such devices since the late 1980's so have some knowledge and experience of what to look for. Its a mine field.
Ryland :good:
Ryland Johnson said:
You are banging your head against a brick wall.
So few people understand the purpose of the Note range. They compare the Note 8 with the SGS8+ etc etc. Makes me wonder how such people can call themselves technical reviewers? I have seen this with EVERY Note released.
So few seem to understand the Note is not for everyone, it fills a clearly defined niche. There is the Galaxy 8 RANGE of mobiles and they are non comparable. The 8 is aimed at the majority who desire a top flag ship mobile. The 8+ is for those who want extra size and what we now call a 'phablet'. The Note 8 is exactly what it says, its mobile aimed at those who USE the bloody S-pen!
If you only new how puzzled I get when I read a post here or see a review where the poster says he has bought the Note but never uses the S-pen and then goes on to criticise the device?? I simply dont get it.
WHO WHO WHO goes to buy a car, lets say a Merc' E series, and compares the coupe with the saloon and the cabriolet? Who are these people? Three different cars to suit three different customers, with three different needs.
Like I have written previously, it's a shame the Note 8 has a greater IQ than 'some' of its critics.
However.............
Ryland :highfive:
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Thanks for the post, must have taken you some time to arrange this for us. :good:
My comment is NOT aimed at you.
What qualifies a Youtube poster as "Professional" ? If one means salaried that's fine. I fear when most people read the term 'professional' they automatically think of a person with professional training and qualifications like an engineer etc.
In reality I suspect the vast majority of those who write or post review-clips are enthusiast's like us or just amateur's at best trying to earn a living?
A real professional review, and they are rare, will not pass an opinion only lay down the scientific facts for us to make our own conclusion, they are objective.
Far too often such 'so called reviews' are highly subjective and some are even based on financial rewards thus making them totally subjective and biased.
The problem is today anyone of us can open a Youtube account and post what clips we like. Must be very difficult for the novice buyer in today's market not knowing what to read-view or what is creditable and non creditable.
I am rather thankful I have been purchasing such devices since the late 1980's so have some knowledge and experience of what to look for. Its a mine field.
Ryland :good:
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I agree many reviews are mainly subjective.
Few reviewers understand note taking and the cognitive benefits of writing information down as opposed to typing. This is why the reMarkable product has had so much backing from early adopters as there are few good tablet based pen solutions. The reviews I linked to are where there is an online tech magazine or blog that also has a YouTube channel. This is why I entitled it as "professional" as there are many reviewers that don't the time or resources to undertake a quality review. Also if you read the comment section for the YouTube reviews you'll see people do point out that not many reviewers understand the utility of the S Pen.
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You are banging your head against a brick wall.
So few people understand the purpose of the Note range. They compare the Note 8 with the SGS8+ etc etc. Makes me wonder how such people can call themselves technical reviewers? I have seen this with EVERY Note released.
So few seem to understand the Note is not for everyone, it fills a clearly defined niche. There is the Galaxy 8 RANGE of mobiles and they are non comparable. The 8 is aimed at the majority who desire a top flag ship mobile. The 8+ is for those who want extra size and what we now call a 'phablet'. The Note 8 is exactly what it says, its mobile aimed at those who USE the bloody S-pen!
If you only new how puzzled I get when I read a post here or see a review where the poster says he has bought the Note but never uses the S-pen and then goes on to criticise the device?? I simply dont get it.
WHO WHO WHO goes to buy a car, lets say a Merc' E series, and compares the coupe with the saloon and the cabriolet? Who are these people? Three different cars to suit three different customers, with three different needs.
Like I have written previously, it's a shame the Note 8 has a greater IQ than 'some' of its critics.
However.............
Ryland :highfive:
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Thanks for the post, must have taken you some time to arrange this for us. :good:
My comment is NOT aimed at you.
What qualifies a Youtube poster as "Professional" ? If one means salaried that's fine. I fear when most people read the term 'professional' they automatically think of a person with professional training and qualifications like an engineer etc.
In reality I suspect the vast majority of those who write or post review-clips are enthusiast's like us or just amateur's at best trying to earn a living?
A real professional review, and they are rare, will not pass an opinion only lay down the scientific facts for us to make our own conclusion, they are objective.
Far too often such 'so called reviews' are highly subjective and some are even based on financial rewards thus making them totally subjective and biased.
The problem is today anyone of us can open a Youtube account and post what clips we like. Must be very difficult for the novice buyer in today's market not knowing what to read-view or what is creditable and non creditable.
I am rather thankful I have been purchasing such devices since the late 1980's so have some knowledge and experience of what to look for. Its a mine field.
Ryland :good:
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Flossy Carter is where it's at. He knows and understands the Note series. Every watched his 50 minute review on this phone? It's amazing. And hilarious.
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Flossy Carter is where it's at. He knows and understands the Note series. Every watched his 50 minute review on this phone? It's amazing. And hilarious.
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RAH lol. I enjoy seeing him be so gentle with his moggy. Sort of a gentle giant.
Ryland