Can anyone else tell me if they have any issues charging the sony xperia using an adapter other than the one supplied?
I have one that I use for everything, iphone, kindle, garmin watch, sansa mp3 player. Yet when I hook up the sony usb charger cable to it the battery light blinks and viewing in the battery section of settings shows it alternating between 'charging' and 'discharging' at the same frequency as the flashing light. This frequency is roughly 1 second. I managed to stabalise the charging on this OEM adapter once. It always charges perfectly on the supplied adapter.
Also I have a portable 5V charger that again I use for all my gadgets as listed above. They all work fine. Not the sony tablet. 'Charging is not supported with this accessory' I'm told this time.
This tablet is looking worse and worse to me. The fact that this tablet was supposed to be bog standard 5V and came with the usb setup (making it simple to use with my portable charger) was one of the major reasons I bought it. Yet I can only use the supplied adapter and am stuck to the A/C supply.
Anyone else seeing similar problems?
Problem? Sony tableyt s dont use the usb port for battery charging
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Hernan1978 said:
Problem? Sony tableyt s dont use the usb port for battery charging
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Anyone that owns the tablet will understand what I am saying. The charger cable comes in a 2 piece. A usb to proprietary connector lead and an A/C adapter. You connect the proprietary end of the cable to the tablet. You connect the full USB connector end of the the cable to the adapter. You plug the adapter into the mains and it charges your tablet.
What I am saying is that if I use an alternate A/C adapter (i.e. one that accepts a USB connection and is rated for 1.5 amps and 5V) it does not charge the tablet correctly. I can't see why this would be as these adapters are all supposed to be built to a standard. Sony has something different in theirs I think. I believe it is non-standard.
(There is no USB port on the tablet so clearly this is not what I meant!!)
3rd Party Charger
ice9111 said:
Anyone that owns the tablet will understand what I am saying. The charger cable comes in a 2 piece. A usb to proprietary connector lead and an A/C adapter. You connect the proprietary end of the cable to the tablet. You connect the full USB connector end of the the cable to the adapter. You plug the adapter into the mains and it charges your tablet.
What I am saying is that if I use an alternate A/C adapter (i.e. one that accepts a USB connection and is rated for 1.5 amps and 5V) it does not charge the tablet correctly. I can't see why this would be as these adapters are all supposed to be built to a standard. Sony has something different in theirs I think. I believe it is non-standard.
(There is no USB port on the tablet so clearly this is not what I meant!!)
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From what I understand we should be able to use a 3rd party charger if it can supply at least 1.5 amps of current at 5VDC. The only limitations that I have seen is some of the 3rd party iPad chargers (USB plugs) won't work with some android devices so the USB standard must not be as standard as one would tend to think. If your charger is blinking and intermittently charging there is a good chance that it can't sustain the current that the tablet is trying to draw.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FS9XLS6/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Just got one of these, primarily for use with my Galaxy s4, but I tested it with the notepro 12.2 as well.
Works ok, but there are a few notes:
SD slot and USB slot are mutually exclusive; only one can be active at a time.
MHL will work at the same time the USB slot works. I tested with flash drives and a usb keyboard.
adapter doesn't seem to want to accept or pass on more than an amp. I have several chargers that I use, ranging from 500ma to 2.1a, and I initially thought that the problem with the USB/SD slot running at the same time was a matter of power. Turns out this isn't the case. The most I could get to pass through to the device was 700ma by suppliying 1000ma.
This does mean that you can power the device at the same time that you use the mhl output and the usb host, but with minimal amount of charging.
If you look at the adapter, you will see that the end that goes into the device is a micro-usb male adapter attached right to the bulky device. This is going to be a just for occasional usage only sort of thing, It is not very sturdy.
I suspected as much when I ordered it, but the other similar adapters with more sturdy configurations or pigtail cables plainly stated that they were mhl /or/ host mode not both at the same time.
I am on the lookout for a straight through 11-pin extension cable that will work. Any ideas?
I wish listed this thing as soon as I saw it!
I'm also looking for an 11 pin version of this same thing.
About the charging issue, if I were to run Netflix and charge at the same time, would it charge or just not drain as fast, also does the hdmi out handle audio?
Not exactly what I'm looking for but it's the closest thing I've seen yet!!!
I specifically tested running Netflix, July, and Dish anywhere access while outputting via HDMI. Depending on your charging rate from whatever cable youbare using for power, you should be OK, but probably it will charge a little slower. I have mine hooked up to a 1amp charger and it's registering +700ma pretty reliably. I've been using the phone as a thin client for the past few days outputting to HDMI and it's taken a charge OK.
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Is there a MHL adapter which charges the XZU? I have tried two different adapters so far and both will output to the HDMI monitor but will not charge my XZU. I am connecting the MHL adapter to an USB power charger which provides 2A. If not, I may go the route of buying a DK30 and taking it apart to use the magnetic charging.
Be aware that there are two types of MHL adapters. 11 pin and 5 pin. The Ultra supports 5 pin, and only Samsung devices supports 11 as far as I know. I have a cheap 5 pin from Ebay and it charges the Ultra when it's connected. That's the point of the whole "plug in your charger". That's only MHL 1.0 or 2.0 though, and I belive 3.0 which is pretty much all new this year supports direct plugging, and you won't need to plug a charger in to use it. That's either 2.0 or 3.0, I'm not sure. I belive the Z1 supports 2.0/3.0, but I'm not sure about the Ultra.
Yes, this is a messy post, but that happens when I'm trying to remember something I read once 6 months ago
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Thanks LordManhattan. I know about the 5-pin and 11-pin compatibility. I believe the 11-pin MHL won't work at all on 5-pin devices (at least when I tried one that included the adapter). It's good to know the one you have will charge the XZU. Maybe I'm just having bad luck in choosing MHL adapters and getting ones that do not charge. For the two MHL adapters I tried, both needed the charger to display the picture on the monitor but, as mentioned, does not charge the phone itself. I also checked under settings and power management and the phone reports "discharging". Hopefully, third times a charm.
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Thanks LordManhattan. I know about the 5-pin and 11-pin compatibility. I believe the 11-pin MHL won't work at all on 5-pin devices (at least when I tried one that included the adapter). It's good to know the one you have will charge the XZU. Maybe I'm just having bad luck in choosing MHL adapters and getting ones that do not charge. For the two MHL adapters I tried, both needed the charger to display the picture on the monitor but, as mentioned, does not charge the phone itself. I also checked under settings and power management and the phone reports "discharging". Hopefully, third times a charm.
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I have this 5pins MHL + 11pin convertor..
Mine is charging my ZU while playing movie on my plasma tv of course with a 2A charger too...
11pins doesnt display anything on my tv...
Yeah, the 11-pin adapter is for Samsung devices. I finally found one which outputs to HDMI and also charges my phone. Was the third MHL adapter I bought.
Hello everyone,
I was wondering if there is a way to increase the charge rate while connected to an MHL adapter.
I have a 2014 Civic Si that literally has an HDMI input for the head unit.
I bought an MHL adapter and it works very well other than a safety limitation that stops screen mirroring while driving, and the fact that even if I am just using it to get the best quality audio into my head unit with the screen turned off, the MHL adapter uses more current than it returns to the phone, resulting in battery loss.
I have the usb power connected to a 2 amp 12v charger that works fantastic when it is just connected with a regular micro usb cable so I know its not the charger.
I have found some evidence that there is a mod that can basically tell the phone that it is connected via AC to take more current.
Would be awesome if someone could provide this, or another solution to this problem. I imagine there are a lot of people like me out there who like to use MHL adapters but don't want their battery to die.
Thanks
Check the quality of the cord. If it's some cheapo one from like eBay or something that may be the problem.
I've found that some of my older degraded cords won't charge the phone while I'm using it.
Also if you roll/folded the cord up sometimes it can pinch it just right to not supply the right charging power.
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Check the quality of the cord. If it's some cheapo one from like eBay or something that may be the problem.
I've found that some of my older degraded cords won't charge the phone while I'm using it.
Also if you roll/folded the cord up sometimes it can pinch it just right to not supply the right charging power.
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To be clear it does show that it is charging (via USB) but its using more current than its getting thus end result is the drain.
It could very well be the cable - hence why I am asking if anyone can recommend a tried and tested solution of MHL + charge that actually charges it quickly.
Thanks,
BDS
So I have the stock charger, a rather generic charge cable, a generic hdmi cable, and an Insignia NS-PU378CHM Usb-c to three port HDMI /USB 3.0 /USB-C power
The problem: when I hook up hdmi and am running DeX on my TV, the battery drains. Even with external power connected.
So I measure the current the charger is delivering, and when using the hdmi adaptor, I'm getting about 1/2 an amp. When I plug power in directly to the tablet, I get a full amp. Battery drains faster than it charges when using the adapter.
I don't know if I need a better charger, to suuply more current under load, a better hdmi adapter / power adapter, a better power cable (but the fact the cable supplies twice the current when plugged in directly suggests it isn't the cable).
Does anyone have a combo they use that keeps power from draining when running dex on hdmi?
Or should I figure it is impossible to supply enough current to keep the battery charged at 100% when running hdmi / dex?
Thanks,
Joe
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So I have the stock charger, a rather generic charge cable, a generic hdmi cable, and an Insignia NS-PU378CHM Usb-c to three port HDMI /USB 3.0 /USB-C power
The problem: when I hook up hdmi and am running DeX on my TV, the battery drains. Even with external power connected.
So I measure the current the charger is delivering, and when using the hdmi adaptor, I'm getting about 1/2 an amp. When I plug power in directly to the tablet, I get a full amp. Battery drains faster than it charges when using the adapter.
I don't know if I need a better charger, to suuply more current under load, a better hdmi adapter / power adapter, a better power cable (but the fact the cable supplies twice the current when plugged in directly suggests it isn't the cable).
Does anyone have a combo they use that keeps power from draining when running dex on hdmi?
Or should I figure it is impossible to supply enough current to keep the battery charged at 100% when running hdmi / dex?
Thanks,
Joe
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Check out this link https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-usb-c-hub-t3917848/post79289417#post79289417 This should supply enough power while using Dex via HDMI!
I'm recopying this from the Galaxy 9 thread referenced above in the hope someone here has tried this adaptor...
This thread is pretty old, but I'm finally looking at upgrading and have some questions about the Ugreen UCB C / USB 3.1 + HDMI Adaptor.
I'm looking at the USB C - 5 Port Adaptor here:
https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Adapte.../dp/B077FZQS95
In the notes it says that
USB C PD fast charging is only for laptops but not for phones. Phones only support normal charging.
Do NOT recommend you charge phone through USB 3.0 port as USB port only can only offer max 1.5A current and will charge your phone slowly
So I'm trying to figure out, is this like a powered USB hub that needs a PD brick to power the hub and then the hub powers the tabled (with 1.5A max), and separately powers the HDMI adaptor, UCB 3.1 devices etc., or is this a power-pass through that powers the tablet (slow) and then the tablet powers the USB devices?
In other words, is there an advantage to buying a $20-30 PD wall brick to power this hub, which the tablet doesn't support, or am I as good as I'm going to get with the original Samsung Lightning charger that came with the tablet?
Thanks,
Joe
I bought one of the U-Green hubs rated for 100W PD:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RW343WG/
This one has two USB 3.0 ports, a USB C charger-in port, HDMI, and two card readers, one full size SD, one micro-sd.
Because all of the documentation specifies it uses power delivery type chargers, I was worried it would have problems with a Samsung lightning charger. No problems. With the original lightning charger, the tablet recharges to and holds at 100% even when loaded by hdmi, an external hard drive, a USB thumb drive, and a micro sd card. The simpler / cheaper hub I bought when I got the tablet discharges when hdmi + the same charger is plugged in.
The reviews complained it gets hot enough to burn your finger when touched, but I haven't noticed this at all. This could be a function of the total power delivered to the hub I believe the lightning charger is only 15W. The hub is rated at 100W with PD cgarger. So only a fraction of the power is transmitted through the hub when charging with Samsung lightning charger. It seems most of the 100W is used to charge a PD laptop or Apple device, not the peripherals.
The one change I'd make to it, is that I'd like to have a spring loaded recessed slot for the micro sd card reader. In this hub, it is pushed in / pulled out of the slot leaving ~ 1/4 inch sticking out from the body of the reader when the micro sd card is loaded. If you leave the card in all the time (to use as an external hard drive) there will be a danger of the card snapping. A minor quibble.
I'm happy that it allows the tablet to maintain 100% charge while running hdmi.
Joe
I have been trying a couple of multiport adapters (USB-C, USB-A, HDMI) but while USB-A and HDMI seem to work fine, the charging port seems to do nothing. The tablet does not indicate it is being charged, and when connected to a PC there is no data connection.
There is a suspicious remark in the documentation:
Operation
• Connect the plug to a USB-CTM port on your computer.
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At the time this manual was written, Android smartphones were not supported.
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So is it possible that this adapter is not supported by our Tab S4? I would be surprised since I read here that other adapters do work.
For completeness, it is a Renkforce USB C naar HDMI + USB 3.0 Multiport-adapter.
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I have been trying a couple of multiport adapters (USB-C, USB-A, HDMI) but while USB-A and HDMI seem to work fine, the charging port seems to do nothing. The tablet does not indicate it is being charged, and when connected to a PC there is no data connection.
There is a suspicious remark in the documentation:
So is it possible that this adapter is not supported by our Tab S4? I would be surprised since I read here that other adapters do work.
For completeness, it is a Renkforce USB C naar HDMI + USB 3.0 Multiport-adapter.
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Your description is confusing to me, and I had to translate the product description of your adaptor from Dutch to English, but...
Plug the USB C male connector from the adaptor into your tablet. Your adaptor has three ports:
1) USB 3.0 female - connect to a USB device such as a mouse, keyboard, thumb drive, etc. I'm not sure if you can connect this port to a PC or not.
2) HDMI female - hook to a display
3) USB C female - power input port only. Does not carry data. Does not connect to a PC. Plug your power supply into this port using the same cable that you charge your tablet with.. The charging icon should activate. Your tablet should stay charged while using the other ports, or at least discharge more slowly.
It sounds like you are trying to plug the charging port into a PC. Doesn't work as far as I know.
Thanks for the reply. This is what I do:
1. Plug the USB-C cable from the adapter into the tablet C port.
2. Plug HDMI cable (connected to a monitor) into the adapter HDMI port. This is detected, Samsung Dex starts, and the monitor displays the Dex desktop.
3. Plug keyboard/mouse into the USB-A port of the adapter. This is picked up by the tablet and I can use the keyboard/mouse.
Alternatively, when I plug a USB stick into the USB-A port of the adapter, the tablet shows a new USB storage device.
So far, so good.
4. I connect the Samsung power supply to the USB-C port of the adapter. Nothing happens. The tablet does not start charging (or discharging less). I tried different power supplies and cables, makes no difference.
When I connect the power supply with the same cable to the tablet it charges normally. When I connect the tablet using this cable to a PC hub the tablet also start charging, albeit slowy.
So as far as I can see I did nothing wrong. What suprises me most is that almost everything works fine, except charging.
I've ordered a new adapter (different brand) to see if this makes a difference.
I think it should work... I have a couple adaptors similar to yours and they all work. Particularly Insignia NS-PU378CHM I referenced above.
I do think that adaptors that say they support power delivery (PD) work better than cheaper generic adaptors. Even though the Tab S4 doesn't support
PD itself. I strongly recommend the Ugreen adaptor above.
Good luck,
Joe
I would have bought the Ugreen immedeately if they were easily available in this part of the world. Buying from Amazon is expensive and delivery is slow.
I got myself another multiport hub, brand A-Konic, and this time all three ports seem to work correctly. USB-C charging. USB-A OTG and HDMI. However, Samsung Dex on the monitor is only 1280x720 (on the S4 it is 2560x1600; the monitor is 1920x1080). Not sure if this is related to the hub.
I'm glad you found something that works. I don't know about screen resolutions. There are other threads that discuss HDMI resolution. I think the HDMI cable can make a big difference.
Take care,
Joe
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I think the HDMI cable can make a big difference.
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Initially I got a distorted image on the screen but replacing the high quality cable by an even higher quality cable fixed that.
I'll check out the resolution info.
Samsung Galaxy Tab S4 working 100w adaptor ?
Hello I have the following question to all owners of samsung galaxy tab s4. I have a desire to buy the following docking stantion for my tablet. I have a question if it will work correctly.
USB C Hub, USB C Docking Station, QGeeM 12 in 1 Triple Display Type C Hub to Dual 4K HDMI & DP,USB C to USB Adapter,100W PD, Gigabit Ethernet, USB C Card Reader,USB Docking Station
Samsung Galaxy Tab S4 does it support thunderbolt ?
Will work seamlessly with a 100w adapter?
It will work but it won't use all its capacity. The tablet only can charge at 18w.
I am having good luck with the AUKEY 5-in-1 USB-C Hub, here is the AMZN link:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089M7WSHM/
It will give screen mirroring to TV. I have used it on both a 720p and a UHD (2160x3840) TV.
It can charge through the hub and use HDMI out and ethernet on the S4. I just wish it wouldn't try to make me setup DEX everytime I plug it in.