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I'm sorry for this noob question, Will flashing a custom recovery(only recovery like CWMR) via ODIN 3.09(is this the odin to be used now with S5) will trip yellow exclamation mark on boot and/or KNOX problem on my TMB S5 ? I'm stock non-rooted UVU1ANCH
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mahanddeem said:
Hi
I'm sorry for this noob question, Will flashing a custom recovery(only recovery like CWMR) via ODIN 3.09(is this the odin to be used now with S5) will trip yellow exclamation mark on boot and/or KNOX problem on my TMB S5 ? I'm stock non-rooted UVU1ANCH
Thanks
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Unless something has changed since the Galaxy S4, I'm pretty sure you can just use an app called "Triangle Away" to reset the counter. Seems to have worked on my T-Mobile S5 since flashing the DeoDexed NE5 ROM and TWRP. Someone else here might know more than I, though. So I'd get a second opinion before proceeding. (Just to be sure.)
EDIT: Just read in another thread that there is a hardware tampering system in place in this device. So there might be more to this than I thought.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729211
mahanddeem said:
Hi
I'm sorry for this noob question, Will flashing a custom recovery(only recovery like CWMR) via ODIN 3.09(is this the odin to be used now with S5) will trip yellow exclamation mark on boot and/or KNOX problem on my TMB S5 ? I'm stock non-rooted UVU1ANCH
Thanks
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luckyduck69 said:
Unless something has changed since the Galaxy S4, I'm pretty sure you can just use an app called "Triangle Away" to reset the counter. Seems to have worked on my T-Mobile S5 since flashing the DeoDexed NE5 ROM and TWRP. Someone else here might know more than I, though. So I'd get a second opinion before proceeding. (Just to be sure.)
EDIT: Just read in another thread that there is a hardware tampering system in place in this device. So there might be more to this than I thought.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729211
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Triangle away does not yet work for the s5. Yes, flashing a custom recovery will trip knox. There is no yellow exclamation point on the s5 and if you are running a custom rom them you will never notice the difference. It is a hardware feature that is now built into the phone and there is no way to disable it.
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Thanks for the answers, so I understand flashing anything on ODIN will trip the KNOX counter.
What if I then odin the whole stock UVU1ANCH tar again ? will it be reset ?
as far as i know, once it tripped u can not reset it back.
mahanddeem said:
thanks for the answers, so i understand flashing anything on odin will trip the knox counter.
What if i then odin the whole stock uvu1anch tar again ? Will it be reset ?
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you can install any official firmware with odin or ota or kies
. Knox will only trip if you root the phone and or install custom, recovery.. ,custom rom, custom,kernel anything that is not signed by samsung will trip knox.
As far as i know,. There is no way knox can be reset as of this time.
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[Q] Does flashing the CWM Beta via ODIN trip the ROM counter?
I am asking because the CWM Dev does not actually have a device. If the answer is yes then why? I am asking because on the 2.3.6 compiles on the SR it does not trip the counter (when running UCLA3).
And yes I read the CWM thread and after about 20 pages, I stopped. From the posts I read, I did not see anyone indicate the status of their counter...
I believe it trips any flash but don't quote me on it
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It does. Using ODIN to flash anything from the SYSTEM or below will trip it.
I don't understand why people put so much emphasis on the counter, to be honest. There's never been an actual denial of warranty (that we know of) from it. Even then, Samsung themselves would have to look for it, AT&T sure doesn't care.
Also, 95% of the time, someone finds a way to reset the counters anyway.
I did more reading and found posts from mashi and da_g. They indicate the counter will trip when flashing the kernel and CWM via ODIN. At least it is this way on the Note. I know on the GS II SR, you could flash CWM via ODIN and not trip the counter. Anyway I am now rooted with no counter trip thanks to mashi.
see this thread for the 727 info...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1340526
shansmi said:
I did more reading and found posts from mashi and da_g. They indicate the counter will trip when flashing the kernel and CWM via ODIN. At least it is this way on the Note. I know on the GS II SR, you could flash CWM via ODIN and not trip the counter. Anyway I am now rooted with no counter trip thanks to mashi.
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you can flash CWM via ADB in about 30 seconds and not trip the counter.
Can someone explain to me what trip counter means? Where do I see if mine is tripped or not?
It is a counter on your phone that trips if you have installed custom firmware. Sorry to say I can't tell you where to look because I don't care about mine
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Trip Counter (Binary Download Counter)
1. Power off Phone
2. Hold Volume- (Down) and Home Key and Power at same time. Let phone boot. While holding all three keys.
3. Once in download mode press Volume+ (up)
Here you can see the counter.
Coustom Binary Download: No
Or
Coustom Binary Download: Yes (2 counts)
how ever many counts you have.
To exit hold power button for about 10 seconds. Then press again to power up phone. (Or Pull Battery)
No this will not trip counter.
is there any way to reset the counter?
dearbeloved said:
is there any way to reset the counter?
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not on the USA variants
djricekcn said:
not on the USA variants
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Triangle away doesn't work on the us variants?
Gadgetz said:
Triangle away doesn't work on the us variants?
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As far as I understand, no it doesn't work and if you try on the USA one, it could potentially brick your phone. I didn't want to take the risk so didn't use it, but I think the author himself said USA Variants not supported.
I rooted using the general root before knowing anything about the flash counter (coming from HTC, dont know the Sammy ways yet). After i found out, I finished with the Root without tripping the flash counter tutorial and it says "1" when i boot into download mode.
Since i have done the tutorial will my counter always stay at "1" or if i flash another rom or mod will it start adding up?
Im just wanting to know if i need to be careful with going flash crazy or not.
thanks.
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I rooted using the general root before knowing anything about the flash counter (coming from HTC, dont know the Sammy ways yet). After i found out, I finished with the Root without tripping the flash counter tutorial and it says "1" when i boot into download mode.
Since i have done the tutorial will my counter always stay at "1" or if i flash another rom or mod will it start adding up?
Im just wanting to know if i need to be careful with going flash crazy or not.
thanks.
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It'll keep going up unless if it's your carrier's official rom, and to be honest, once you get "1" I don't think it matters if you have "2" or "48190238102931"
dearbeloved said:
I rooted using the general root before knowing anything about the flash counter (coming from HTC, dont know the Sammy ways yet). After i found out, I finished with the Root without tripping the flash counter tutorial and it says "1" when i boot into download mode.
Since i have done the tutorial will my counter always stay at "1" or if i flash another rom or mod will it start adding up?
Im just wanting to know if i need to be careful with going flash crazy or not.
thanks.
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I'm no expert, but from all the reading I've done I have concluded that flashing non-Samsung content via Odin is what trips the flash counter, flashing a rom via CWM will not.
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I'm no expert, but from all the reading I've done I have concluded that flashing non-Samsung content via Odin is what trips the flash counter, flashing a rom via CWM will not.
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I can confirm that.
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I can confirm that.
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not doubting you but wanted to be sure if true for all roms and i guess maybe even carrier models? Some of the sites I read said other wise. Also, you need to raise the counter at least "1" time to get Root Access though, no?
which means we still need a reset app like the international ver. have.
..and what is max I can do ? Or does it matter if I have 500 counts? What is it for? Dees it hurt me in any kind of way?
mine says "custom binary download: yes (1 count)
I installed 2 roms (same rom just updated version)
djricekcn said:
not doubting you but wanted to be sure if true for all roms and i guess maybe even carrier models? Some of the sites I read said other wise. Also, you need to raise the counter at least "1" time to get Root Access though, no?
which means we still need a reset app like the international ver. have.
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Negative. I just rooted and installed CWM on my AT&T GS3 and my counter is still at 0. Flashing via Odin is what trips the flash counter, flashing through CWM doesn't. That being said, I'd imagine most if not all devs are going to make their roms flashable zips so we don't have to worry about the counter. I rooted via Odin but didn't trip the counter thanks to the devs who figured out a way to get around it. The thread is stickied in the AT&T dev forum.
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Negative. I just rooted and installed CWM on my AT&T GS3 and my counter is still at 0. Flashing via Odin is what trips the flash counter, flashing through CWM doesn't. That being said, I'd imagine most if not all devs are going to make their roms flashable zips so we don't have to worry about the counter. I rooted via Odin but didn't trip the counter thanks to the devs who figured out a way to get around it. The thread is stickied in the AT&T dev forum.
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well, i have tmo phone and my counter is currently at [1] so I need a reset somehow
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well, i have tmo phone and my counter is currently at [1] so I need a reset somehow
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I don't think there's a method out to do that yet, sit tight.
..and what is max I can do ? Or does it matter if I have 500 counts? What is it for? Does it hurt me in any kind of way?
there's no max, its just a way of voiding warranty
So we need to brick our phone good enough that they cant read the counter to get warranty replacement???
once the counter is [1] or higher,you already voided your warranty...there's really no max out or loop back to [0]
I need to return an S3 for warranty repair. It was originally on the Three network, but has been unlocked, rooted and ROM'd a few times. Apart from flashing a stock ROM using ODIN, do I also need to reset the flash counter or do anything else to restore it to an acceptable state for warranty repair?
yes, you will have to reset the flash counter.
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I need to return an S3 for warranty repair. It was originally on the Three network, but has been unlocked, rooted and ROM'd a few times. Apart from flashing a stock ROM using ODIN, do I also need to reset the flash counter or do anything else to restore it to an acceptable state for warranty repair?
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With Triangle Away 1.90, you can find it in th CF-Root thread
As Triangle Away needs root (which I currently have - I'm running CheckROM v5), presumably the sequence of things that I need to do is:
1. Run Triangle Away
2. Flash Stock ROM
Is that right?
yes, but at the end add a factory reset
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yes, but at the end add a factory reset
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Thanks. Just a thought - will flashing the stock ROM increase the flash counter (and hence defeat the objective!)??
itm said:
Thanks. Just a thought - will flashing the stock ROM increase the flash counter (and hence defeat the objective!)??
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Not via Odin no .
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itm said:
Thanks. Just a thought - will flashing the stock ROM increase the flash counter (and hence defeat the objective!)??
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lol...I must admit I asked myself that same question....but rest assured, no it won't, after you are done, go to settings/about device/status and at the bottom you should see unmodified
So flashing using Odin doesn't increase the flash counter? So is it only CWM zips that increase it? If so has this changed from the s2 as I'm sure CWM didn't increase flash counter
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odin raises the flash counter with unofficail roms. Only sammy roms dont increase the counter and i think flashing throw cmw doesnt raise the flash counter if it is stock rom. But odin is always recommended
Hello all,
I am rooted and have been flashing pribably 6 different ROMs so far without issue. I've been reading threads where others have been talking about "trip counters" and the "yellow triangle". Am I missing or forgetting about something important?
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They're talking about flashing unapproved .odin images that trip the flash counter you're flashing stuff with CWM or TWRP.
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They're talking about flashing unapproved .odin images that trip the flash counter you're flashing stuff with CWM or TWRP.
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I'm normally not anal about this, but did you forget a period between "flash counter" and "you're" ? I don't know if you meant to put one there but I'm confused about what you're saying at any rate.
I am using TWRP only to flash ROM's. the only time I used ODIN was when I did a stock flash to the original ROM post unlocking the bootloader.
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I'm normally not anal about this, but did you forget a period between "flash counter" and "you're" ? I don't know if you meant to put one there but I'm confused about what you're saying at any rate.
I am using TWRP only to flash ROM's. the only time I used ODIN was when I did a stock flash to the original ROM post unlocking the bootloader.
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I'm not and expert on this but what he was saying was that flashing a ROM with TWRP or CWM shouldn't trip the flash counter. I have flashed several ROMs and I haven't had mine tripped yet. If you flash an unauthorized image via ODIN you will more than likely trip the counter and from all that I've read you shouldn't flash with ODIN once you're on an unlocked bootloader unless you want to go back to stock and locked
If this info is wrong please feel free to correct me.
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I'm not and expert on this but what he was saying was that flashing a ROM with TWRP or CWM shouldn't trip the flash counter. I have flashed several ROMs and I haven't had mine tripped yet. If you flash an unauthorized image via ODIN you will more than likely trip the counter and from all that I've read you shouldn't flash with ODIN once you're on an unlocked bootloader unless you want to go back to stock and locked
If this info is wrong please feel free to correct me.
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Can someone confirm this?
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That is how I understand it. As adam posted only use odin to return to stock. Do all your flashing with twrp. Also if you ever had to reset the counter triangle away app from chainfire can do that no for us.
My wife's S3 keeps getting the clipboard bug, so she finally agreed to let me root it. However I don't want to increment the flash counter or use Triangle-away. I notice the US-based S3 models have su and SuperSu injected to stock kernels/recoveries so those can be flashed directly from stock recovery, any such thing for the international i9300 (currently on 4.1.1)?
When I rooted my S2 a year ago I used heimdall (Linux) and didn't bother much about the counter, while my recent Galaxy Tab 7.7 root used the original built-in recovery and was dirt-easy (along with not modifying anything stock). Is there anyway to do similar on the S3?
Use triangle away after root to reset flash counter
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why do you care about the counter?
warranty? well, they'll deny you warranty if you're rooted anyway
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Use triangle away after root to reset flash counter
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I'm looking for a way which won't require that.
Glebun said:
why do you care about the counter?
warranty? well, they'll deny you warranty if you're rooted anyway
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They can't deny warranty if they don't know. If the counter is clean I can just delete SuperSu.apk and su and there'll be no trace.
Regardless, this isn't primarily about warranty, as I've gotten my rooted (yellow triangle) S2 warrantied here before. My wife wants as low-risk an approach as possible, and I'm simply trying not to get into trouble
you can delete supersu later, sure, but you can also reset the counter later. what's the point of doing it now? the counter had nothing to do with safety.
and triangle away is the only way to reset the counter AFAIK, what's the problem with it?
INFO Warranty items to look for Apps requiring root >> Root or its tools >> Custom rom Counter above zero >> Rom status not official >> rom Odin status Custom .
Suggest you look in Development at the various root methods one without increasing rom counter it might be via Mobile Odin .
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Glebun said:
you can delete supersu later, sure, but you can also reset the counter later. what's the point of doing it now? the counter had nothing to do with safety.
and triangle away is the only way to reset the counter AFAIK, what's the problem with it?
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As I said, I don't have a problem with it...
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INFO Warranty items to look for Apps requiring root >> Root or its tools >> Custom rom Counter above zero >> Rom status not official >> rom Odin status Custom .
Suggest you look in Development at the various root methods one without increasing rom counter it might be via Mobile Odin .
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Getting mobile odin on requires root in the first place I think, so that's a bit of a catch 22.
You cannot reset the counter if you don't use TA.
what's risk are you talking about?
Yeah... what's wrong with just rooting, then TA?
If ever you need warranty, odin a stock rom and you're golden.