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Hi All,
Got mine today after a long battle with the M8 and its many problems. . .
I have noticed mine has a gap in the top right like many others have but has anyone been in for a waterproof test yet?
In all honestly i'm just curious to know rather then it being a problem for me as I dont have the desire to be dipping into water or swim with it.
It doesnt bother me although I know its not nice having it there but again it doesnt look as bad as the way the original HTC One had gaps open round the metal.
So yep anyone concerned or even taken it to a Sony centre?
Cheers
Mine doesn't have any gap. Well not that I can see. I will not risking trying to dip in in water. Even though it is supposed to be waterproof I am not sure they will cover it.
Xernoxis said:
Mine doesn't have any gap. Well not that I can see. I will not risking trying to dip in in water. Even though it is supposed to be waterproof I am not sure they will cover it.
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yeah i dont have the desire as I say to be dipping into water . .its seems more ppl have the gap then others . ..
coming from the M8 with multiple scuffs and marks on the metal out the box its really pleasing that its just a gap i have as it doesnt look bad but still the waterproof protection and dust may still be affected by this.
plus I plan to put a case on mine in the end so the gap will be covered up anyway . .I know I shudnt ave to cover it but Im never gonna be carrying a glass phone naked!
Where did you order yours? Maybe you can get it exchanged and hope to get one of the newer batches?
It was phone's 4 u in UK so not the best place to get phone's in my experience so far.. I have been advised to go into store so staff can have a look...
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Has it ever been proven that the 'gap' is actually a problem? People seem to get them replaced without ever testing, could be all for nothing?
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Has it ever been proven that the 'gap' is actually a problem? People seem to get them replaced without ever testing, could be all for nothing?
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I believe due to the scarcity of Sony stores in certain areas that people just decide to not bother testing and just sent it back.
Don't know if this is related but anyone who has the gap issue, is the camera lens slightly off centre too? Mine is (although it doesn't affect the camera quality).
I'm not sure what I should do because I've only recently realised I have the very minute gap at the top right but I got my phone on the 22nd of April through mobiles.co.uk so I wonder if I can simply go to a carphone warehouse shop to discuss it or if I have to do it through mobile.co.uk.
Sh4dovv said:
Has it ever been proven that the 'gap' is actually a problem? People seem to get them replaced without ever testing, could be all for nothing?
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Mine has a slight gap I wash it in the sink with soap and water all the time no issues...
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ILS_SuperNova said:
Hi All,
Got mine today after a long battle with the M8 and its many problems. . .
I have noticed mine has a gap in the top right like many others have but has anyone been in for a waterproof test yet?
In all honestly i'm just curious to know rather then it being a problem for me as I dont have the desire to be dipping into water or swim with it.
It doesnt bother me although I know its not nice having it there but again it doesnt look as bad as the way the original HTC One had gaps open round the metal.
So yep anyone concerned or even taken it to a Sony centre?
Cheers
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But i don't think this small gap become cause of water damage!
i mean this gap is in surface of phone and it s not like hole that connect outside to inside of phone!
so it s just ugly...
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I have the gap issue, there is a slight gap on the front top right & a more noticeable one on the front bottom left, I didn't spot it at first but a mate that was admiring the phone did as he spotted a small bit of tobacco trapped between the gap & the bezel.
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Alright, I thought **** it, put my phone under water with the small gap, everything was fine no problems.
As i mentioned i did ask if ppl had taken to sony fot testing .. It bothers me as some ppl say they dont have gaps and its more noticeable because of the left side bring flush with the galss
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As i mentioned i did ask if ppl had taken to sony fot testing .. It bothers me as some ppl say they dont have gaps and its more noticeable because of the left side bring flush with the galss
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Yeah I know what you mean, I want to go to a Sony Centre but nearest one to me is Leeds and I don't like going into Leeds at the best of times but I will go not next week but the week after and have a chat with them.
Im going back back into shop tomorrow to check their other Z2 stock and see how they r.. If theres no gaps then its getting exchange... Thought i cud live with it but it makes the screen at top look angled as left top side is fine and right side drops down
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What about your camera lens? Is it off centre too?
Seems fine the camera just gap.. If other side had a gap i honestly think id be ok bout it as they wud match.. But at minute it looks silly
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I know some ppl have said this doesnt effect the waterproofing but my problem with this is the lool of the handset as it looks badly made
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Hi!
I bought a z2 from mediamarkt. but im in Portugal now. so i asked to a cousin to send me photos to see if there is the gap issue with my unit. can you compare with a good device to see if i need to change mine?
regards.
Hi guys...
Just for fun and to talk about TS off-topic I'm creating this thread...
Great video from @Lokifish Marz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53553746
Apparently...we could actually swim with it, we'll probably be electrified but that's not bad...or is it?
Anybody tried to swim with TS?
Want to sell parts now?
KS campaign video clearly said we could do that, right?
Omate's TrueSmart 2.0 : Android 4.2 on 1.54'' TFT…: http://youtu.be/oTUjWc9BJDg
Oooo Omate... You just gotta love them..
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Don't even try it!!
Take it as a good advice...
LLPen took his kayaking. He said it survived, so I tried it with mine on a glassy smooth lagoon off San Francisco Bay. Mine survived, too. Wow !
I bet mine has Sapphire Crystal too (because it hasn't scratched yet) !
Mine didn't get wet hardly any while kayaking and I don't wear it while mixing concrete, so my testing is limited. Really, don't get it wet !
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LLPen took his kayaking. He said it survived, so I tried it with mine on a glassy smooth lagoon off San Francisco Bay. Mine survived, too. Wow !
I bet mine has Sapphire Crystal too (because it hasn't scratched yet) !
Mine didn't get wet hardly any while kayaking and I don't wear it while mixing concrete, so my testing is limited. Really, don't get it wet !
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All of them are made with the Sapphire coating. Made has suffered from one tiny scratch that only could be found under a bright fluorescent light. Not bad considering I wear the watch while exercising in gym sometimes making a light knock against the metal on the weight machines(Made a mark on the black paint).
IP67
This IP67 part of lies makes me most angry.
I'm kayaking a lot, and swim at swimming pool few times a week, and I had sooo many plans for TS+water (including app to count swim distance).
And this IP67 sold watch for me...
Yes, that "Sapphire" coating is a big help, I agree. I am glad we have it. It is not, however what we were sold, which was a sapphire crystal like the expensive watches use and which is really quite tough indeed (and quite more expensive, I am sure). We got a treated glass surface and given other assembly issues that have turned up I would not be too sure all the TrueSmarts shipped got an equally effective coating treatment.
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Hi guys...
Just for fun and to talk about TS off-topic I'm creating this thread...
Anybody tried to swim with TS?
Want to sell parts now?
KS campaign video clearly said we could do that, right?
Omate's TrueSmart 2.0 : Android 4.2 on 1.54'' TFT…: http://youtu.be/oTUjWc9BJDg
Oooo Omate... You just gotta love them..
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LOL Youtube rubs it in my face by showing me an advert of people on holiday swimming in the sea!
You all understand I'm joking, right?
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You all understand I'm joking, right?
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I'm not because I bought a second TS for my uncle when they "confirmed" you could go swimming with it.... #nothappy
Actually I was thinking of immersing my TS into a load of this stuff!
http://www.nanostate.co.uk/flash-flood-to-waterproof-smartphones-and-tablets-5ml-p-3.php
This actually might work if it got into the "pores" and places inside the TS...
Passing through here, legit concerns as it relates to water resistant features... So let's keep on topic, OK?
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Passing through here, legit concerns as it relates to water resistant features... So let's keep on topic, OK?
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I was actually being serious about getting the hydrophobic coating... We all know that the physical properties of the TS are useless soooo let's add some chemistry!
How abt dryzoo on indiegogo?
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ip67 is just 30min under water so going to swim with it is a bad idea...
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ip67 is just 30min under water so going to swim with it is a bad idea...
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Why would it be a bad idea???
Swim for 30 minutes.
Or even better when you swim the watch will be going in and out of water so it should be good.
This is why for me all this IP rating is nonsense.
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The TrueSmart watches are not at all waterproof. Many have been destroyed by casual splash damage like just getting wet while washing things in the kitchen sink. It's a shame, but don't get it wet.
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Hehe...this thread is awesome..
My intention was to mock Omate and their IP rating circus
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lol, just look at lokis immersion test where he sacrificed a TS!... And still Omate skirt round the issue... wonder if Loki got a refund for his factory sealed TS lol... All the waterproofing thing is doing is scaring people into not using their MicroSD Cards.... you're not going to loose any water protection because there isnt any to begin with...
inWatch offered to replace the Z if it gives me any issues from the test, Omate attacked my integrity upon seeing the video. So it's safe to assume a replacement is out of the question. Better QC and a couple of changes and the TS would probably hit 1ATM, a more serious evaluation of the design and they could have hit 3ATM.
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inWatch offered to replace the Z if it gives me any issues from the test, Omate attacked my integrity upon seeing the video. So it's safe to assume a replacement is out of the question. Better QC and a couple of changes and the TS would probably hit 1ATM, a more serious evaluation of the design and they could have hit 3ATM.
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Could I get a link?
I could do one video - water test -
My TS is somewhere on the shelf and I'm not using it (it's ridiculous to take it off evert time I'm washing my hands)..
I'm sure LLP would believe me
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I just bought a Z2. Very happy with it. But do I need to test it underwater?
Did any of you do that?
I did, day I got it filled the sink with water and in it went
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I still haven't yet lol love the phone would love trying underwater photography but if it goes wrong lol...
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Right when I turned it on and configured the settings, I dunked it in a sink full of water. Next day, tried it in a swimming pool.
Well, maybe need to try it then
I did with my white one, worked great. My black one died and I'm still fighting for a refund... Check the screen gaps very closely and give it a whirl.
The way I look at the whole water resistance thing with my Z2 is, if I get caught on the phone in the rain I won't worry about it, thats as far as my testing water resistance will ever go
I use it as a party trick but or if uninformed people are around i go out of my way without saying a word to them is turn on tap and wait a few seconds as they will generally look up from whatever they were doing and then i proceed to slowly "clean it" under the tap, I get all sort of response thes main ones being *gasps* or "are you crazy wtf." then explain it and show its working right after. If you want to make sure your covered by warranty take video of you firmly pressing the flaps down before proceeding with the above cause in the water proof booklet or chapter (cant rember what it which it was) it says if any dust or water is found beneath the flaps the warranty is void. which in my mind translates to even if the flaps seal was broken or faulty from the start you are officially screwed
This is what happened to me
I also bought My new Xperia Z2 from Saudi Arabia. It was w20 model had screen gaps issue both on front and back . Bought it from Sony store and they said that it will not effect waterproofness of the device. Even then i was careful but after a month it was full of finger prints and i decided to wash it and unfortunately water went inside . All flaps were closed and i double checked it . When i took it to service center they said no warranty if water went inside and they will send it to Dubai please check back after 2 weeks.
I posted on Facebook as they may help me but this was their reply was we are sorry and nothing else
On twitter they are not even replying. and they just say contact service center and all i hear from them is excuses. there is not a single scrtach on my device. Unfortunately there is no refund or replacement system here. Really disappointed with Sony services. I saved money for 6 months for this device
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This is what happened to me
I also bought My new Xperia Z2 from Saudi Arabia. It was w20 model had screen gaps issue both on front and back . Bought it from Sony store and they said that it will not effect waterproofness of the device. Even then i was careful but after a month it was full of finger prints and i decided to wash it and unfortunately water went inside . All flaps were closed and i double checked it . When i took it to service center they said no warranty if water went inside and they will send it to Dubai please check back after 2 weeks.
I posted on Facebook as they may help me but this was their reply was we are sorry and nothing else
On twitter they are not even replying. and they just say contact service center and all i hear from them is excuses. there is not a single scrtach on my device. Unfortunately there is no refund or replacement system here. Really disappointed with Sony services. I saved money for 6 months for this device
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Fezan, I can understand that you were saving for it quite a long time but if you did, why did you risk and put it into water?
The problem is, that Sony advertises this phone as IP58 resistant BUT the warranty does not work if water gets inside the phone... They secured themselves...
I understand your frustration though, you just put it under the tap water and saw what happens. Unfortunately you should have done it in Sony store where a representative would check for waterproofnes of the phone, if you do it by yourself, they will hardly ever warrant it.
Even though this phone is supposed to be water proof, I do not intend to test this waterproofness, ever! Not intentionally, at least...
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Fezan, I can understand that you were saving for it quite a long time but if you did, why did you risk and put it into water?
The problem is, that Sony advertises this phone as IP58 resistant BUT the warranty does not work if water gets inside the phone... They secured themselves...
I understand your frustration though, you just put it under the tap water and saw what happens. Unfortunately you should have done it in Sony store where a representative would check for waterproofnes of the phone, if you do it by yourself, they will hardly ever warrant it.
Even though this phone is supposed to be water proof, I do not intend to test this waterproofness, ever! Not intentionally, at least...
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Well You can say its foolish of me to do so. but its one of the main selling feature of Xperia Z line phones and tablet. Imagine if you bought iPhone 5s and fingerprint scanner is completely not working or if phone was advertised with retina display but had lower resolution screen. I know i had a faulty unit but sony support should take that into consideration
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I understand your frustration though, you just put it under the tap water and saw what happens. Unfortunately you should have done it in Sony store where a representative would check for waterproofnes of the phone, if you do it by yourself, they will hardly ever warrant it.
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Let's say they agree to do it, would not be in the store but service center, how long would it take for the phone to show there was a problem ?
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Let's say they agree to do it, would not be in the store but service center, how long would it take for the phone to show there was a problem ?
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In my case it took only a min and i could see water droplets in cameras and flash
Just got a Z2 today. Used Z1 all the time in the shower and dipped it in water quite a few times. Not a single problem. Probably not going to try it out on the Z2 lol.
I used it in the pool and in the sea.
Here's my video in the red sea...
http://youtu.be/c5JlK1Hwp3c
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You have water test markers - you can see them if you open flaps.
If those markers become red, you haven't closed flaps right and your warranty won't be accepted.
But!!!
If those stickers are still white - it's not your mistake and Sony MUST accept warranty.
This device is waterproof and water resistant and you can go diving with it...
Will you do that or not, that's your thing but you have every right to do that.
Only, don't go to sea with it - dive in pool or lake
Salt could cause short-circuit and you'll not have your warranty rights...
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You have water test markers - you can see them if you open flaps.
If those markers become red, you haven't closed flaps right and your warranty won't be accepted.
But!!!
If those stickers are still white - it's not your mistake and Sony MUST accept warranty.
This device is waterproof and water resistant and you can go diving with it...
Will you do that or not, that's your thing but you have every right to do that.
Only, don't go to sea with it - dive in pool or lake
Salt could cause short-circuit and you'll not have your warranty rights...
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Well, I guess you are right but what IF you closed the flaps correctly and one of the seals was bad and the water got inside anyway and marked the marker? This can happen too.
Waterproofness was not the main selling point for me, anyway, I would not risk submerging a 600 Euro worth of a device which was designed to be a phone not a completely waterproof camera
Anyway, I wish you good luck with Sony when going through the warranty process, I hope everything goes fine...
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Fezan said:
Well You can say its foolish of me to do so. but its one of the main selling feature of Xperia Z line phones and tablet. Imagine if you bought iPhone 5s and fingerprint scanner is completely not working or if phone was advertised with retina display but had lower resolution screen. I know i had a faulty unit but sony support should take that into consideration
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I am not saying you are foolish, maybe it is just me but I am very cautious with my electronics and I don't think I would risk submerging this phone into water. If it was a camera or a device specifically designed to be used under water then sure, why not.
By designed to be used in water I mean something that is well sealed and does not rely on some flaps, which deteriorate proportionally to the number of times you open them etc. I accept the fact that this phone is said to be waterproof but I bought it to be used as a phone and there is just too many catches in the warranty print and too many other things can go wrong.
@valdigre
Totally agree...
I don't need Z2 in swimming pool as well but if I'm not sure for waterproof I would take my device and one bucket with water and do test in the store or service center
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A few days after getting mine I took it to a water park and kept it in the pools and down the water slides and all with no problems... Even sat in a hot tub for 20 minutes. Very happy with this device.
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Erik1805 said:
I just bought a Z2. Very happy with it. But do I need to test it underwater?
Did any of you do that?
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Despite the unwise adverts of Sony I tend to see this -water resistance- as a safeguard against accidental water damage. This is NOT an industrial designed device meant for the work place, the Z2 is very much a domestic mobile and I tend to avoid contact with water. I am confident the Z2 is water resistant to the given specifications and feel comfortable using it in the rain etc.
I sincerely think those who take any mobile into the shower ....................well enough said, I shower to wash I cant see why one needs to do such a thing. We all need our personal space and if one cant shower in peace I think its time to revise our daily work patters.
Sea water is a big no no because of the salt as are swimming pools due to chemicals. These facts are mentioned in the manual.
I don't 'drop test' my devices either. I really don't need to confirm what I already know.
Ryland
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I used it in the pool and in the sea.
Here's my video in the red sea...
http://youtu.be/c5JlK1Hwp3c
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You invalidated your warranty. Read your manual..............CAREFULLY.....
Certainly don't tell Sony what you did when you have a problem.
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Hello so I heard about how the z2 become hot after use 4k video and some people say the back glass break when the z2 become hot is that really ? Because I want to buy a one and I don't know if that bug really ! Help me
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Hello so I heard about how the z2 become hot after use 4k video and some people say the back glass break when the z2 become hot is that really ? Because I want to buy a one and I don't know if that bug really ! Help me
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i have recorded 4k video for around 21mins one time. my device got hot enought to cook my food on it and the back didnt crack
the only way the Z2 glass will crack (that i logicly know of) is from leaving it in a Car in the middle of summer (40*C tempratures and above)
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i have recorded 4k video for around 21mins one time. my device got hot enought to cook my food on it and the back didnt crack
the only way the Z2 glass will crack (that i logicly know of) is from leaving it in a Car in the middle of summer (40*C tempratures and above)
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So I shouldn't worry about the back glass thanks
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So I shouldn't worry about the back glass thanks
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Yes, you shouldent
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Idk what you have done but mine cracked above the main camera, can't say it's from 4k since I haven't noticed the Crack when it happened, But definitely something wrong with it.
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Hi Everyone,
So I was on holiday with my beloved Ultra, and using it in the pool. Cool thing is, this phone is waterproof! That's what I thought until I got on the plane a few hours later and upon trying to use my phablet the touch screen stopped responding. It seemed to function OK, I just couldn't unlock it or use it as there was some kind of hyperactive spectre flying around inside making it seem like the touchscreen was possessed. I looked a little closer, and not only was there condensation visible in both camera lenses, but upon opening the usb cover there was also moisture inside there. I opened the other side, and the moisture indicator was still white, so I think the problem was specifically with the usb port cover.
Anyway, it's not covered under any kind of warranty as I bought it overseas, and I have taken it to a repair shop who confirmed that it's water damaged and that they would need to fix the damaged USB port and replace the screen to make it work again. I just want to buy a new one as it would be cheaper than getting it fixed, but I have some data/apps on the old one I don't want to lose. Any suggestions on the best approach? If the shop can read the eMMC and back it up, could I use that to restore data/apps onto a new phone, or am I better off just getting it fixed...
Advice/opinions appreciated.
it's a marketing trick. they are not actually waterproof.
I guess this guy's luck was bad. Mine had contact with water a couple of times and thankfully it lived upto its waterproofness promise
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it's a marketing trick. they are not actually waterproof.
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This is a stupid reply. I brought it with me in the pool with my kids, made photos and videos underwater (touch block + volume rocker), no problems at all.
Same goes with my wife's Z.
Of course, if you go swimming with the USB flap open, well, you're an idiot. (Not that I accuse OP of being one, just that 80% of the time when I saw someone with a faulty phone/laptop/tablet it was not working because of THEM).
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Hopefully someone replies with some advice that is actually helpful... FYI I have used it in the pool (and had it underwater) multiple times before without problems. I always make sure the seals are sitting properly when I close them so I am doubtful it was user error...
The usb port is fully brpken?
I think it's corroded, but definitey doesn't work.
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I think it's corroded, but definitey doesn't work.
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without usb and screen it will be difficult for you to get data off yourself.
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This is a stupid reply. I brought it with me in the pool with my kids, made photos and videos underwater (touch block + volume rocker), no problems at all.
Same goes with my wife's Z.
Of course, if you go swimming with the USB flap open, well, you're an idiot. (Not that I accuse OP of being one, just that 80% of the time when I saw someone with a faulty phone/laptop/tablet it was not working because of THEM).
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good for you, you were lucky. on the xperia forums and on here, there are many MANY people who had their phones damaged from water. Are ALL of them at fault?
however, call sony and ask them (i did):
1) what *guarantee* is there that with the flaps closed the phone will not receive water damage? they will answer none. There is no case where the warranty will cover water damage. Whether it's your fault or the phone's fault, it is irrelevant to sony. they will NOT cover it.
2) what happens if, after *normal use*... notice this: *normal use*, NOT abuse, the flaps lose their sealing ability? Does the warranty cover it? No. Warranty does NOT cover "normal use wear". Which means the flaps WILL lose their sealing ability and you end up with a non-waterproof phone. How soon? NOONE KNOWS because there is no way to actually TEST it, at least not as a USER. You MIGHT be able to have it tested at sony... but that would mean testing it every. single. time. you close any of the flaps...
your phone, at any given point, MAY or MAY NOT be waterproof. However, since you have no way to test it, it means that you CAN NOT TRUST it to be waterproof, which is, of course, means you have to treat it as NOT waterproof.
which, in the end, means the phone is not waterproof.
as a sidenote, keep any and all profanities to yourself
Blah blah. The phone is waterproof. No need to be all technical and stuff. Can it be used in water for a certain period of time? Yes.
Your post reminds me of when ships were first being built. If a boat ends up sinking from wear and tear does that mean it wasn't a floating device? Also wear and tear....that's why we check our cars at a set time for periodic maintenance because of wear and tear.
I got lax with mine and took it in the shower and got water in it, USB flap is worn. Not the companies, because I didn't take the necessary steps to make sure my phone was periodically maintained.
Just my 2 cents...