Hello
I have a few questions about the hole "thing" cause this is my first android phone and on apple there was just the option jailbreaked or not jailbreaked
My first question is about the bootloader.
since i was reading the thread "[FULL ROOT] Community RootKit! (ASEC vulnerability) {v01} [20140615]" i am asking me why should i unlock my bootloader when im able to get root without doing this?
Is there any special point for wich i need the unlocked bootloader or is it just written for the people who unlocked there bootloader already?
Then to second question is about the sequence.
Am i right when i
1. get root
2. install cwm or twrp
3. install custom rom?
by the way: is there any huge difference between twrp and cwm? because at the table "Kernels" there is the TWRP for the Xperia T2 Ultra and an unofficial version and from CMW is an unofficial version too? Wich should i use?
and my last question is should i wait for version 2 of the RootKit or are there just small differences?
Scarpall said:
Hello
I have a few questions about the hole "thing" cause this is my first android phone and on apple there was just the option jailbreaked or not jailbreaked
My first question is about the bootloader.
since i was reading the thread "[FULL ROOT] Community RootKit! (ASEC vulnerability) {v01} [20140615]" i am asking me why should i unlock my bootloader when im able to get root without doing this?
Is there any special point for wich i need the unlocked bootloader or is it just written for the people who unlocked there bootloader already?
Then to second question is about the sequence.
Am i right when i
1. get root
2. install cwm or twrp
3. install custom rom?
by the way: is there any huge difference between twrp and cwm? because at the table "Kernels" there is the TWRP for the Xperia T2 Ultra and an unofficial version and from CMW is an unofficial version too? Wich should i use?
and my last question is should i wait for version 2 of the RootKit or are there just small differences?
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Bootloader unlock is required to install Custom kernels like DOOMLORDS kernel. In case if you dont want that then no need to unlock BL.
Just follow this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784757 to get root on Locked Bl and then revert back to .402
manu44 said:
Bootloader unlock is required to install Custom kernels like DOOMLORDS kernel. In case if you dont want that then no need to unlock BL.
Just follow this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784757 to get root on Locked Bl and then revert back to .402
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hi manu44,
first thank you for the answer.
but it is possible to root and use an custom rom with an locked bootloader or?
is there a away to do it step per step?
i mean first root with rootkit, then later install an custom rom ? or do i need to do it all at one time ?
Scarpall said:
hi manu44,
first thank you for the answer.
but it is possible to root and use an custom rom with an locked bootloader or?
is there a away to do it step per step?
i mean first root with rootkit, then later install an custom rom ? or do i need to do it all at one time ?
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A custom ROM is different from a custom kernel. Some custom ROMs do not require custom kernels (because they use stock kernel), but others do. So it really depends on the custom ROM that you want to use. Instructions and requirements will be posted in the respective ROM thread.
But if you want to use a custom kernel, then you will need to unlock the bootloader first.
And obviously, if you want to flash a custom ROM that needs custom kernel, then you will have to unlock your bootloader first.
Even if you want to flash a custom ROM that does not require a custom kernel, you need to first root the phone with the RootKit. Because flashing custom ROMs is usually done via recovery, and recovery installation requires root.
Hope the above is not too confusing.
hush66 said:
A custom ROM is different from a custom kernel. Some custom ROMs do not require custom kernels (because they use stock kernel), but others do. So it really depends on the custom ROM that you want to use. Instructions and requirements will be posted in the respective ROM thread.
But if you want to use a custom kernel, then you will need to unlock the bootloader first.
And obviously, if you want to flash a custom ROM that needs custom kernel, then you will have to unlock your bootloader first.
Even if you want to flash a custom ROM that does not require a custom kernel, you need to first root the phone with the RootKit. Because flashing custom ROMs is usually done via recovery, and recovery installation requires root.
Hope the above is not too confusing.
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Thank you
So just to be sure.
I Run the toolkit for root
Then i take twrp or cwm
And then i flash a custom Rom wich use stock kernel
And that can i do with a locked bootloader?
What can be different in an other kernel?
Scarpall said:
Thank you
So just to be sure.
I Run the toolkit for root
Then i take twrp or cwm
And then i flash a custom Rom wich use stock kernel
And that can i do with a locked bootloader?
What can be different in an other kernel?
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Yes, run Rootkit, install recovery (TWRP/CWM) and then you can flash custom ROM which uses stock kernel.
Custom kernels allow functions such as overclocking, undervolting, etc.
hush66 said:
Yes, run Rootkit, install recovery (TWRP/CWM) and then you can flash custom ROM which uses stock kernel.
Custom kernels allow functions such as overclocking, undervolting, etc.
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Big thanks to you
Now i know that i can keep my bootloader locked.
Take note that by modifying your device you warrenty is voided and you can posibly brick your device
(brick meaning dead phone) aka brick
For any info aditional info you can go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2775411
Later ill update the thread to add better/new info which i forgot
Sent from my D6503 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Scarpall said:
Big thanks to you
Now i know that i can keep my bootloader locked.
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Or you can use the toolkit on .55/.69
Then follow Nuts thread and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784757
this would bring you back to .402 and have recovery installed by default on Locked bootloader
manu44 said:
Or you can use the toolkit on .55/.69
Then follow Nuts thread and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784757
this would bring you back to .402 and have recovery installed by default on Locked bootloader
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then i have 2 new questions
1. How can i downgrade my phone ? just download the fw and use flashtool?
got an iphone till now and there it was a hard work to do it ..
2. is there any difference between locked and uinlocked bootloader? i mean in the point of restoring so that i have my warranty back?
1. There's now an even easier way to root the 402 firmware that does not require you to downgrade first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784900
But note this post, where you have to change something in the install.bat file for it to work on the Z2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53480221&postcount=81
2. It's a little more work if your bootloader is unlocked and you want to relock it before sending it to the service centre. You need to have your TA backup before doing so. If your bootloader is locked, you just have to remove root via SuperSU before sending it in for service.
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Will i need to reroot my xperia after unlocking bootloader and installing a custom bootloader..? Which bootloader is best...? and how to install a bootloader?
waqar_shah said:
Will i need to reroot my xperia after unlocking bootloader and installing a custom bootloader..? Which bootloader is best...? and how to install a bootloader?
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no, usually the rom contains the root, do u mean custom kernel?
what rom are u using? stock rom go with doomlords v6
custom roms go with what the dev provides u with
I'm a bit confused.
Please go read the Android Dictionary here, (Clickie!)
it contains all android-stuff words and things all newcomers do not know. it is very helpful ^^, and after that, you can clarify your question ^^
Hi,
In case anyone (like me) has issues installing the S1boot driver for your xperia, to be able to flash other firmware, here is the link :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=718060&d=1315877046
This driver will install itself after you run the executable file dpinst.exe after having extracted the archive.
With the driver you can use the flash tool (combined with your phone booted in flash mode (volume down + usb connect)) to flash other firmware on the phone.
P.S. i'm not talking about fastboot mode, but "flash mode" ;-)
Br.
Michel
a question sir
Do I need to unlock the bootloader first before flashing?
And do u use Cyanogen or Miui?
thanks!
yujin_11 said:
a question sir
Do I need to unlock the bootloader first before flashing?
And do u use Cyanogen or Miui?
thanks!
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i dont think you have to unlock the bootloader to flash your phone, you have to enable usb debugging in your phone ,settings>applications>development>usb debugging
pls correct me if im wrong
Hi,
As far as I know you "have" to unlock the bootloader before being able to flash custom firmware on the Phone.
I unlocked the bootloader via the sonyericsson site link :
http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/
I use 4pda.ru firmware+kernel from this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424121
Reason I dont use CM or MIUI is that I need a 100% functional phone (both corporate and private usage, that's why) . I encourage the development on CM and MIUI, don't get me wrong here
You can find more information about unlocking, rooting and flashing custom kernels and firmware on this XDA forum.
Br.
Michel
vleutmans said:
Hi,
As far as I know you "have" to unlock the bootloader before being able to flash custom firmware on the Phone.
I unlocked the bootloader via the sonyericsson site link :
http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/
I use 4pda.ru firmware+kernel from this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424121
Reason I dont use CM or MIUI is that I need a 100% functional phone (both corporate and private usage, that's why) . I encourage the development on CM and MIUI, don't get me wrong here
You can find more information about unlocking, rooting and flashing custom kernels and firmware on this XDA forum.
Br.
Michel
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how about flashing through CWM recovery like the previous xperia? is it any different? because before the msm7227 and qsd8250 bootloader been unlocked, people use CWM recovery to flash rite?
syin16 said:
how about flashing through CWM recovery like the previous xperia? is it any different? because before the msm7227 and qsd8250 bootloader been unlocked, people use CWM recovery to flash rite?
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.well I don't know if you can flash another Rom without the boot loader being unlocked. Anybody?
vleutmans said:
.well I don't know if you can flash another Rom without the boot loader being unlocked. Anybody?
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You can setup CWM and flash ROM on unlocked device, but you can't flash kernel and baseband.
So current situation is: you can't flash CM or MIUI (which requires their own kernels) on unlocked device, but you can flash stock-based mods like repack4pda (which works with stock kernels).
ImmortAlex said:
You can setup CWM and flash ROM on unlocked device, but you can't flash kernel and baseband.
So current situation is: you can't flash CM or MIUI (which requires their own kernels) on unlocked device, but you can flash stock-based mods like repack4pda (which works with stock kernels).
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You both mean locked right?
Hi, i've now cm9 rc and a xperia neo unlocked and root.
I would like test the official rom from sony.
Do you have a link or a method for install this without lost the advantage of root and unlocked bootloader.
If not, what's the custom rom similar (and optimised) at the official..
Thanks a lot
:good:
Check general section, find my thread with .ftf and instructions how to root.
Thanks, i read this but i would like an other way for not lost my root and lost time to re-rooting... (If i've understand the process)
lioo said:
Thanks, i read this but i would like an other way for not lost my root and lost time to re-rooting... (If i've understand the process)
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Erm, boot(or hot boot) kernel with CWM, flash zip, restart phone. Entire process for root-ing it on unlocked BL.
btw, you can't re-lock your BL by flashing custom rom, or by doing full flash with flashtool.
Hey! Guys,
I wanted to know what are the steps to follow in-order to install a custom ROM on my xperia ray. I've read few tutorial but still I've got some questions to clarify. Just tell me whether below steps are correct.
First root the device
Unlock the boot loader
Flash a custom ROM
And if I'm installing a custom ROM on to my device I want to achieve below point too.
Want a complete back up with SMS/MMS, Apps ..etc (can be acheived via some back-up apps)
Want to take a complete copy of my current stock firmware (as a ftf file)
Any else, that I should follow which I missed here ...
I'm still curious about this.. Please advise me if I missed anything here since I'm a newbie when it comes to android rooting, flashing stuffs..
.G33K said:
Hey! Guys,
I wanted to know what are the steps to follow in-order to install a custom ROM on my xperia ray. I've read few tutorial but still I've got some questions to clarify. Just tell me whether below steps are correct.
First root the device
Unlock the boot loader
Flash a custom ROM
And if I'm installing a custom ROM on to my device I want to achieve below point too.
Want a complete back up with SMS/MMS, Apps ..etc (can be acheived via some back-up apps)
Want to take a complete copy of my current stock firmware (as a ftf file)
Any else, that I should follow which I missed here ...
I'm still curious about this.. Please advise me if I missed anything here since I'm a newbie when it comes to android rooting, flashing stuffs..
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OK, root is really important :laugh: I think you should also get cwm recovery as step 2 and figure out how to use it before you unlock your boot loader. There are a bunch of ROMs in Ray Dev that are for unlocked boot loaders so you can try some things out and get comfortable flashing with cwm and/or flashtool. If you find that you like what you are doing, then unlock the boot loader. It probably will only take a day or two to figure out cwm and how flashing with cwm and flashtool work, but by then you will be a lot more comfortable with the instructions for unlocking your boot loader and you will be less likely to end up in a bad place and people will be able to help you better, since you already know how to do most of the stuff.
Thread moved. Questions belong here in Q&A.
Thanks
AvRS
justmpm said:
OK, root is really important :laugh: I think you should also get cwm recovery as step 2 and figure out how to use it before you unlock your boot loader. There are a bunch of ROMs in Ray Dev that are for unlocked boot loaders so you can try some things out and get comfortable flashing with cwm and/or flashtool. If you find that you like what you are doing, then unlock the boot loader. It probably will only take a day or two to figure out cwm and how flashing with cwm and flashtool work, but by then you will be a lot more comfortable with the instructions for unlocking your boot loader and you will be less likely to end up in a bad place and people will be able to help you better, since you already know how to do most of the stuff.
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Thank you for the advise.. I also, got to know that I can install stock based custom ROM's without unlocking the bootloader.. is it true?? if so, in that case I can't try something like that by back-up my current firmware
.G33K said:
Thank you for the advise.. I also, got to know that I can install stock based custom ROM's without unlocking the bootloader.. is it true?? if so, in that case I can't try something like that by back-up my current firmware
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You can install ics based roms that are based on stock rom on a locked bootloader
mihahn said:
You can install ics based roms that are based on stock rom on a locked bootloader
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any good roms you can suggest.. has to be a ROM which is minimalized by removing all Bloatwares, junk apps... etc.
.G33K said:
any good roms you can suggest.. has to be a ROM which is minimalized by removing all Bloatwares, junk apps... etc.
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Asking for good roms is not allowed
There are a few MIUI roms for example or you could try MiniCMSandwich for AOSP style, just search around in development section and find your favourite!
I would like to run custom ROMs( CM) based in my device. To start with, I aj a total noob and my device currently runs stock ICS provided by sony itself. It's not rooted. I wanted to know the steps regarding how-to do the procedures like :
~> unlock bootloader ( is it needed or not)
~>root (needed or not)
~> flash custom ROM( which one is good and runs fast,least buggy)
~> which CM?
~> which recovery, which kernel, how-to's
Etc.
I don't know if all info is available on the forum in one thread or not, so I created a new thread.
Thanks in advance.
AW: Help regarding Sola Custom ROMs
You have to try every ROM on your own! Everybody has an other way to use it's Smartphone, so nobody can say which ROM is perfect for you and Root and CWM is needed for every Custom ROM Cause you need CWM to install the ROM and to install CWM you need Root And if the ROM is compatible with a locked or unlocked BL is said in every OP of a Custom ROM
Open your eyes and use the search function! You can find nearly EVERYTHING here on xda
But still a guide would be helpful...if possible...
srivmanu said:
~> unlock bootloader ( is it needed or not)
~>root (needed or not)
~> flash custom ROM( which one is good and runs fast,least buggy)
~> which CM?
~> which recovery, which kernel, how-to's
Etc.
I don't know if all info is available on the forum in one thread or not, so I created a new thread.
Thanks in advance.
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srivmanu said:
But still a guide would be helpful...if possible...
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If you don't wanna unlock your bootloader(which will void your warranty) but you wanna install cwm, you can always root your phone and install the cwm recovery... Now, every custom roms is very good!!! You must be thankful to all the devs here and try some roms on yourself... We can't tell that which Rom is good for you so you must try it on your own... CyanogenMod 9 is good and very smooth but requires you to unlock your bootloader... You also must unlock your bootloader to flash awesome kernels that provides overclock and many more...
You can find cwm recovery for locked bootloader at here!! Be sure to follow the steps properly!!
And to root stock .54, you must first flash the .10 kernel using flashtool, root it using binary method, then flash back the .54 kernel..