Hey, i really appreciate all the functions in your rom and I really like hover and the floating window functionality. But SlimKat recently released a new UI for the recents window, which would also fit really well to Paranoid Android. Here is a YouTube-Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKMjpFgWH58
It's really nice because it doens't freeze the current app and doesn't take up the whole screen. Also, it displays more apps than the AOSP version of the recent apps screen because you are able to dismiss the app content.
I think it would work pretty well with the Hover funtionality, because it makes opening an app in floating window much more easy and also comfortable.
Is there any possibility to include this or a similar function to your rom soon?
It's been asked before and we said no. We have our own ideas
#stayparanoid
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It's been asked before and we said no. We have our own ideas
#stayparanoid
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What are these ideas? Can't seem to find which directions you want to go with the pie controls?
Our ideas are behind closed doors at this time until we decide what we like best...
#stayparanoid
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Our ideas are behind closed doors at this time until we decide what we like best...
#stayparanoid
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Why wouldn't you share and ask the community which features they like? This seems like such a proprietary mindset..?
Why would we do that when we build the ROM how WE want it?
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Why would we do that when we build the ROM how WE want it?
#stayparanoid
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Didn't knew the develop team's mindset was like that, can't say I'm not disappointed by this but I guess this your show.
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Didn't knew the develop team's mindset was like that, can't say I'm not disappointed by this but I guess this your show.
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If we let the community decide every feature we would just be another kang ROM...
Most development teams do this by the way. Develop a new feature in private until the point where it is publicly show able. Not sure what you would expect.
If we showed our ideas publicly every time we would never get a feature out before someone kanged it.
#stayparanoid
Pirateghost said:
If we let the community decide every feature we would just be another kang ROM...
Most development teams do this by the way. Develop a new feature in private until the point where it is publicly show able. Not sure what you would expect.
If we showed our ideas publicly every time we would never get a feature out before someone kanged it.
#stayparanoid
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But we're not talking about something new, just settings/modification to the current pie control system. I totally understand that you don't want others stealing your cool ideas but in the post prior to this one it's sound more like 'We don't care, we just do what we like' mindset. Oh well I trust you guys will make something nice out of it, as I've been being seeing in the short period I've used PA.
I was never talking about pie. This thread was about recents...
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I was never talking about pie. This thread was about recents...
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Lol when I saw the YouTube video I thought it was about the Pie controls (I made a thread about the Pie controls, hence me posting on the thread). My bad
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We'll take Supra Rom for example.
If it LOOKS like AOSP, the apps WORK like AOSP, why isn't it considered AOSP?
Is there something that MAKES a Rom AOSP specifically?
Android Open Source Project. When you see AOSP it means its as basic as it gets.
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an AOSP ROM is compiled from the sources provided by the Android project.
SupraROM is still a Sense-based ROM, just with a bunch of AOSP stuff thrown in
Yes, my ROM isn't technically AOSP because it wasn't built directly from Google's source with ONLY Google programming. True AOSP has zero Sense in it, whereas mine was just heavily modified to look as much like AOSP as I could possibly make it. The new ROM in my sig however, Pulse, is true AOSP because it has no influence from HTC's devs. No apps from them, no framework from them, nothing. Just straight Android.
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my ROM isn't technically AOSP because it wasn't built directly from Google's source .... The new ROM in my sig however, Pulse, is true AOSP....
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Um, Pulse was not built from Google's source. If it was, where is your modified source code? Do you have a Github link?
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Um, Pulse was not built from Google's source. If it was, where is your modified source code? Do you have a Github link?
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I never said it was built from Google's source.
Okay, thank you everyone.
That's exactly what I thought.. but I just wanted to make sure whether there's something specific that sets them apart.
And Empiire, to be completely honest.. I LOOOOOVE SupraRom, just for that reason alone (that it's merged between the two). I hope you never stop working on it. =]
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Android Open Source Project. When you see AOSP it means its as basic as it gets.
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it seemed so sad to have all these posts about aosp but nobody provided a link to the actual repository where all official android developer publically released code and comments are kept!
for those interested and for the record - below is the link for the official aosp code in all its glory!!
http://android.git.kernel.org/
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Okay, thank you everyone.
That's exactly what I thought.. but I just wanted to make sure whether there's something specific that sets them apart.
And Empiire, to be completely honest.. I LOOOOOVE SupraRom, just for that reason alone (that it's merged between the two). I hope you never stop working on it. =]
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Well thank you, I was originally planning on leaving the thread to die but I've had plenty of PMs asking to keep development going, so I guess I will.
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Well thank you, I was originally planning on leaving the thread to die but I've had plenty of PMs asking to keep development going, so I guess I will.
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You should at least keep up on it until you get sound working on Pulse. Seriously, if we had an AOSP Rom with sound working I would be rockin it. I have to be able to make and receive calls, or I would be all over it. From what I understand, you can't hear the person you are calling. I'm going to continue to use Supra AOSP version until we get a working AOSP build with sound.
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I never said it was built from Google's source.
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You implied it. I quoted it. You defined an AOSP ROM as being one built from source then claimed Pulse was "true AOSP."
To the OP: their ROMs currently are "AOSP based" at best. They are not compiling these ROMs from source. They are "porting" them, in a sense.
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You implied it. I quoted it. You defined an AOSP ROM as being one built from source then claimed Pulse was "true AOSP."
To the OP: their ROMs currently are "AOSP based" at best. They are not compiling these ROMs from source. They are "porting" them, in a sense.
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Damn dude, chill. I'd check out a dictionary if I was going to be this technical about everything. Lmao.
Anybody running the beta of onskreen multitask? I just read CM9 wants to have it baked in. Huge potential and maybe the biggest draw to windows 8.
roman's AOKP rom, build 23...has onskreen inside...well, from its name, i think it has. check it out..
here: http://goo-inside.me/roms/edt/p4wifi/
this for GT-P7510 wifi version only.
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roman's AOKP rom, build 23...has onskreen inside...well, from its name, i think it has. check it out..
here: http://goo-inside.me/roms/edt/p4wifi/
this for GT-P7510 wifi version only.
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I didn't see the onskreen edition .zip. I ran 24 and was fairly happy with it but ended up back on overcome. I'd love to see some video or something of onskreen running. Maybe I'll browse Youtube.
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I didn't see the onskreen edition .zip. I ran 24 and was fairly happy with it but ended up back on overcome. I'd love to see some video or something of onskreen running. Maybe I'll browse Youtube.
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In that case put your glasses on while reading.
http://goo-inside.me/roms/edt/p4wifi/aokp_p4wifi_build-23-onskreen-edition.zip
animelover said:
In that case put your glasses on while reading.
http://goo-inside.me/roms/edt/p4wifi/aokp_p4wifi_build-23-onskreen-edition.zip
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I meant it wasn't on the top of the thread for the AOKP in the development section. Build 24 was posted so I assumed that was the current and be all end all version and just installed that.
This looks cool. I hope it is released as an app or can be cooked into custom ROMS moving forward...
animelover said:
In that case put your glasses on while reading.
http://goo-inside.me/roms/edt/p4wifi/aokp_p4wifi_build-23-onskreen-edition.zip
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there u go
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I meant it wasn't on the top of the thread for the AOKP in the development section. Build 24 was posted so I assumed that was the current and be all end all version and just installed that.
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roman never mention bout that build in his threads. but there it is. from its name i think onskreens inside.
anyone try it yet?
I've tried the onskreen addition, its amazing but is VERY buggy, that's why roman only did one addition of it, because the developers need to fix it before he can do anything better in his rom. Definitely nice for things like YouTube (where it stops playing when you exit) because you can keep it running if you don't mind a lot of force closes and hang ups
then its definitely fun to play with but in my opinion is too much in a beta stage to be more than just a fun rom switch when bored.
Just a side note:
mabalito is trying the same for us GT-P7500 users so next build could possibly come with Onskreen features. Yay.
The Goal
To bring a new standard to the android platform, destroy, improve, rebuild. also, to put aside our egos and opinions and to work together as a community. if you dont like it you can always not use it!
>The journey, I my self will say if you just want the end product please leave this isnt the place. this is here to teach not to give.
Planned features
>Implement WebOS, FFOS or B2G in the the android platform. this is not another rom. it's a new firmware.
>Better multitasking, or true multitasking
>better handling of how the framework corresponding with the system. e.g. caching commonly used thing's for better load time over a crappy connection.
> a patch method so this can be merged with other UI's.
!Want to help?!?!
granted you may doubt yourself, dont just dont. anyone is free to contribute suggest etc. to make things easy here's a template. if you suggest something and it is not in this type of format, sorry it'll be ignored.
:UI
:System
:Hardware/software (E.g Lefty Mode. swapping the buttons layout to fit those who are left handed)
Ideas so far
MIUI theme chooser, say what you will it's a large customization option.
A new UI concept. if you have ideas just copy paste the format and add what you think is good/
Developers working on this
I will update this I ask that any dev interested message me via xda's pm system. title it [community]
SinisterTensai
Flex360
Mazda
Tribulattifather
Cloaker
jamieg71
NineInchNails
PuRE IVIonztah
Rydah805
Ragster (UI/Launcher guy)
tgrgrd00
EVOuser94
Tilde88
edlokien
Dogie52
this OP is subject to change, as more information is collected
thread gathered information
Web OS features, such as?
Social intragration into the android platform, e.g. Facebook, twitter G+ the mobile websites of these perform better than the apps, if we string some apis together for pictures sharing/posting and just load a webpage event in the "Social app" e.g. web.event.load="m.facebook.com" and share.event.activity.camera.post"userdefined_image _id"
suits vs folders string app categories together such as phone, mms, IM. tools calc, gps maps so on so forth. most likely will be a default.xml listing to categorize these into the proper groups. gapps wont be included cause the rom will be AOSP so im thinking calling external apks in a nice defined layout with gesture controls to switch
Focal points
Statusbar, I think It should do more. it's accessed from most apps and important things should go there, not just notifications. a simple mms grid layout with input for mobile number and text input also a list of unread messages. this could also push over to im services.
launcher: the dockbar should be optional imo, im thinking just have the all apps list in a corner with along press the dock pops out, also scroll able. so not just 5 apps sit there (some people dont like having apps on screen.
widgets: yea they're a thing to consider. as for the sense on other launchers, itd be easier to make widgets that look like it than integrate the actual ones
configuration. I think a major lacking point of android is user mapping for key's, why dont we have a leftie option? we all arent right handed. ill keep things in the thread as is so others can express there thoughts and add to this op will be updated later tonight.
OP/OC
So I see that our device has a huge collection of developers such as myself and many others. so I got to thinking (well the ambien did) and I thought (or it) that if all of us joined together and made a community driven rom (im talking better than the synergy collab here people) not just a rom but a little bit of the spirit that drives us enthusiast, noobs kangers scriptkids drunks stoners hell even moderators, any one who loves the ability of a rooted device. if we all came together put aside our differences and alliances just to bring something new, something innovative im not talking about some dinky apk that changes a few features on sense no im talking about something brand spanking new something that will make other device owners envy our device we can do it if we come together and work as a whole for the greater good, or should I say rom?
well who's with me?
noobs, themers users developer lurkers etc come forward step up lets see what ya got! call me a dreamer call me w/e I could care less. this could be the next big thing or the next nothing, it is up to you. ask not what your developer can do for you, but what you can do for your device
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Even though I don't own this device........I'm down!
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aww shiat mazdas in, any one else???!!?!?!?!
Count in flex360
Reporting for duty
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Why not. Take a look at my Roms and see what you can use from me ^>^
My Roms Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1808332
I know little to nothing about programming, but nowhere near computer illiterate either. If I am needed, I'm up for it. Lol
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I'm in love the idea, reminds me of this
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Tribulattifather said:
Why not. Take a look at my Roms and see what you can use from me ^>^
My Roms Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1808332
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your location say's it all, whats a box? I do not know of what you speak?
jamieg71 said:
I'm in love the idea, reminds me of this
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oh god not another flesh pipe story &^$!*^!&# HAHAHA!
Sinistertensai said:
So I see that our device has a huge collection of developers such as myself and many others. so I got to thinking (well the ambien did) and I thought (or it) that if all of us joined together and made a community driven rom (im talking better than the synergy collab here people) not just a rom but a little bit of the spirit that drives us enthusiast, noobs kangers scriptkids drunks stoners hell even moderators, any one who loves the ability of a rooted device. if we all came together put aside our differences and alliances just to bring something new, something innovative im not talking about some dinky apk that changes a few features on sense no im talking about something brand spanking new something that will make other device owners envy our device we can do it if we come together and work as a whole for the greater good, or should I say rom?
well who's with me?
noobs, themers users developer lurkers etc come forward step up lets see what ya got! call me a dreamer call me w/e I could care less. this could be the next big thing or the next nothing, it is up to you. ask not what your developer can do for you, but what you can do for your device
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Even though I don't own this device........I'm down!
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Are you down even if he invites kangers?
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hahhhahaha. too funny.
What kind of Rom are you thinking about.. A port or an aosp/cap build?
thicklizard said:
Are you down even if he invites kangers?
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dont we all kang from google > linux > unix ????? what can we really claim as our own? we don't reinvent the wheel we just modify it
Tribulattifather said:
hahhhahaha. too funny.
What kind of Rom are you thinking about.. A port or an aosp/cap build?
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many actually all community driven each fellow device owner helping another out all for the greater rom so to speak.
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many actually all community driven each fellow device owner helping another out all for the greater rom so to speak.
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I see. Well, I suppose, since I've already posted something in evo 3d about a project i'm running, here's a link to it and let me know if maybe we post it on the first post. Maybe we can make a list of the projects going on..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35814451&postcount=3064
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dont we all kang from google > linux > unix ????? what can we really claim as our own? we don't reinvent the wheel we just modify it
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That's what I thought but Mazda said that was wrong
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Sounds good. think theres some logistics to figure out like how to go about it and all but that can be figured out.
Like Mazda I don't own this device but I'm down
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Are you down even if he invites kangers?
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Not sure what you mean by that BUT I will say that I'm not going to break any rules or get away from doing things the right way.....even if is not the popular thing to do at the time!
BUT this ain't about me or you or kangers or whatever, this is about something bigger then that!
Let's get this party started!!!!!!!!
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That's what I thought but Mazda said that was wrong
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put aside the differences and focus on collaborating to get more out of our device(s) the one thing that holds back developers is the ego and politics. so lets do away with that, thanks
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That's what I thought but Mazda said that was wrong
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Replace "ME" with "US"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksSPZTZES0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
exactly like the op says, now that we have s-off, do you guys think we will get official aosp support sice some devs arent really willing to deal with s-on? im not requesting. i'm just interested in what others think
My question is what does the one have to do with the other? Or put it this way what does S-Off have to do with AOSP? just wondering, thanks.
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exactly like the op says, now that we have s-off, do you guys think we can get official aosp support soon? im not requesting. i'm just interested in what others think
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My personal opinion, i'm sure others will. I won't compile an AOSP rom for the DNA. My reason. I happen to love sense. Reason I stick with HTC phones. I don't like touchwiz (earth, haze, whatever they keep changing the ui name to) and moto ui is too much like stock. I like personality in my phone.
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exactly like the op says, now that we have s-off, do you guys think we can get official aosp support soon? im not requesting. i'm just interested in what others think
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Not to sound like a jerk but it seems like you should know your way around....
We always have AOSP thats why its called android OPEN SOURCE project. The question is will someone be able to port it to the DNA.
Go to the Orig. Android Dev section for the DNA and you will see drewx2 an others have been working tirelessly on porting CM10.1 (AOSP) to the DNA. Instead of asking a question that has been answered in the thread you should go check it off.
And S-OFF has nothign to do with porting AOSP. It might make a difference considering other devs may get the phone now that the bootloader is fully unlocked. But it has no DIRECT effect.
How many of these threads do we need?? You could not have posted in the AOSP thread right below yours?? Besides if you people wanted AOSP you should have bought a Nexus. SMH
zone23 said:
My question is what does the one have to do with the other? Or put it this way what does S-Off have to do with AOSP? just wondering, thanks.
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My dear Zone. I think the question was, now that there's no security whatsoever, does it mean now we have the capability to modify the device even further.
The S-off feature allows us to upgrade the firmware (ie, bootloader ver, radios) on our devices. The software is capable after root is achieved. Root in lamens terms is giving yourself administrative rights over your phone, ,much like you have administrative rights on your windows computer. BUT, linux does not have administrator priveleges, it has root priveleges. Thats why Zone is confused by your queston.
Unphazed MD said:
Not to sound like a jerk but it seems like you should know your way around....
We always have AOSP thats why its called android OPEN SOURCE project. The question is will someone be able to port it to the DNA.
Go to the Orig. Android Dev section for the DNA and you will see drewx2 an others have been working tirelessly on porting CM10.1 (AOSP) to the DNA. Instead of asking a question that has been answered in the thread you should go check it off.
And S-OFF has nothign to do with porting AOSP. It might make a difference considering other devs may get the phone now that the bootloader is fully unlocked. But it has no DIRECT effect.
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number 1, yes you sound like a jerk. number 2, some people dont have time to search for a partial answer to somebody else's question. 3, i asked for OPINIONS on the subject. not answers or eta's. 4, i have seen the thread, i asked for speculations on official ports, and i am very aware of the hard work devs put in (donated to jcase and beaups). and 5, s-off has a LOT to do with aosp ports, since many devs refuse to support locked phones, which is an effect. not direct, but still an effect.
honestly i know now why xda's rep is such crap now. when i try to start a conversation on this site all you get is a bunch of trolls with nothing better to do than act condescending and sarcastic.
and thank you dragonstalker for being just about the only person on this thread that even attempted to act sensible and polite
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How many of these threads do we need?? You could not have posted in the AOSP thread right below yours?? Besides if you people wanted AOSP you should have bought a Nexus. SMH
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where's the fun with nexus phones? number one, i am a strict lte user. two, i dont really like nexus because you dont get to really choose other oem skins. some days i like sense/touchwiz, and other days i like aosp. and no wont post in the other thread. they arent looking for the same conversation/info i am, and i'm not gonna add another question to a question thread. SMH
well some devs might be more interested in getting the phone now that it has s off. I don't think it has a direct effect either but making things more convenient for the end user to install kernels should entice more people, including devs looking for a new toy.
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number 1, yes you sound like a jerk. number 2, some people dont have time to search for a partial answer to somebody else's question. 3, i asked for OPINIONS on the subject. not answers or eta's. 4, i have seen the thread, i asked for speculations on official ports, and i am very aware of the hard work devs put in (donated to jcase and beaups). and 5, s-off has a LOT to do with aosp ports, since many devs refuse to support locked phones, which is an effect. not direct, but still an effect.
honestly i know now why xda's rep is such crap now. when i try to start a conversation on this site all you get is a bunch of trolls with nothing better to do than act condescending and sarcastic.
and thank you dragonstalker for being just about the only person on this thread that even attempted to act sensible and polite
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Theres nothing wrong with "XDA's" rep. Its people posting/asking the same quesitons over and over again without taking the 5 minutes to browse the forums or 30 seconds to do a search. Theres been like 800 S-OFF/AOSP related threads/questions when in truth they honestly arent that related. S-OFF is essentially disabling a security check. AOSP is the source.
You could of also just posted like someone else said in one of the other threads on the front page of DNA Q/A asking about S-OFF/AOSP. I dont post a lot but honestly all of these questions being asked over and over again is really silly.
Same with asking about an ETA. The ETA is when the devs finish it. If you want it faster help out. Its not easy.
Maybe you should have reworded your question to something like "Now that we have S-OFF is porting AOSP and easier/quicker which would speed up the eta?"
Im sorry but after the whole debacle with people bugging devs and almost driving them out of the scene and taking them for granted I am not trying to have this widespread post spam happen.
and btw official CM10 support usually happens after somone has a stable and organized build. Then CM10 will usually ask them to become the official maintainer for that device. DrewX2 posted about it in the CM10.1 DNA thread I am not giving that great of an explanation.
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My dear Zone. I think the question was, now that there's no security whatsoever, does it mean now we have the capability to modify the device even further.
The S-off feature allows us to upgrade the firmware (ie, bootloader ver, radios) on our devices. The software is capable after root is achieved. Root in lamens terms is giving yourself administrative rights over your phone, ,much like you have administrative rights on your windows computer. BUT, linux does not have administrator priveleges, it has root priveleges. Thats why Zone is confused by your queston.
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Ya I get confused a lot thanks for cleaning that up for me.
Technically we have AOSP but with Sense skin. If you want AOSP feel then flash a deSensed rom (Sence isn't completely removed, only as much as possible) and use an AOSP theme.
orangechoochoo said:
Technically we have AOSP but with Sense skin. If you want AOSP feel then flash a deSensed rom (Sence isn't completely removed, only as much as possible) and use an AOSP theme.
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Let me clarify something... AOSP is nothing like sense... Sense isn't a skin it's a full OS. HTC didn't theme AOSP, they built from ground up an os based on android kernel / Linux kernel
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Nevermind, you're right.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...d-skins-aosp-sense-touchwiz-xda-developer-tv/
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Nevermind, you're right.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...d-skins-aosp-sense-touchwiz-xda-developer-tv/
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Yea that's exactly what I was referencing from lol
orangechoochoo said:
Nevermind, you're right.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...d-skins-aosp-sense-touchwiz-xda-developer-tv/
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Wow, someone who admits they're wrong. I didn't know that existed on the Internet.
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Unphazed MD said:
Theres nothing wrong with "XDA's" rep. Its people posting/asking the same quesitons over and over again without taking the 5 minutes to browse the forums or 30 seconds to do a search. Theres been like 800 S-OFF/AOSP related threads/questions when in truth they honestly arent that related. S-OFF is essentially disabling a security check. AOSP is the source.
You could of also just posted like someone else said in one of the other threads on the front page of DNA Q/A asking about S-OFF/AOSP. I dont post a lot but honestly all of these questions being asked over and over again is really silly.
Same with asking about an ETA. The ETA is when the devs finish it. If you want it faster help out. Its not easy.
Maybe you should have reworded your question to something like "Now that we have S-OFF is porting AOSP and easier/quicker which would speed up the eta?"
Im sorry but after the whole debacle with people bugging devs and almost driving them out of the scene and taking them for granted I am not trying to have this widespread post spam happen.
and btw official CM10 support usually happens after somone has a stable and organized build. Then CM10 will usually ask them to become the official maintainer for that device. DrewX2 posted about it in the CM10.1 DNA thread I am not giving that great of an explanation.
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did you not read how i just said i didnt ask for eta's or roms. do you know how to read. also did you read how i said i donate to devs when possible. also did you read how i said i wasnt asking for progress updates. i said i was looking for CONVERSATIONAL OPINIONS ON THE SUBJECT
Bigandrewgold said:
Wow, someone who admits they're wrong. I didn't know that existed on the Internet.
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It doesn't hurt to be wrong, it's a learning experience :good:
No s off won't make CM10 any easier to build. Fixing not being able to push or pull system files while phone is booted makes things much easier to work with and in my opinion was way more helpful to the devs on general.
If you look at some of the recent HTC devices, a good number of those devices are s off, and the AOSP developers went back to s on because of safety concerns for the device after a few mishaps building from source.
To build AOSP for a device like this requires some serious skill on the RIL (radio interface layer) department especially. Using the command line for a few things like boot.img isn't challenging to someone that can build from source for AOSP. And definitely is a skill someone porting AOSP roms and especially trying to crack RIL would have acquired a long time ago. While on the surface it seems so advantageous to the end user, to port AOSP over to a brand new device, my 2 sense is that s on is the least of their worries.
And yeap the guys above me are right, sense is built as sense from the ground up. And unlike AOSP, most of sense is proprietary so unlike AOSP Android, it has to be reverse engineered and then built to work on the hardware in our phones. The linux kernel used by HTC is open source and they comply with the GPL and release kernel source code for it. But everything proprietary is kept pretty locked down to prevent Samsung from using sense 5 and calling it "Samsung inSense"
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Sent from my DNA... S-Off like a baws
Why do so many people buy HTC phones which all come with some form of Sense and then spam XDA with questions about when can we get AOSP? The answer to the question by the OP is no because S-Off has nothing to do with getting AOSP. As Charles put it the biggest hurdle on every HTC device I have had for the devs to get AOSP working is RIL and kernel.
With the release of the bump website imminent many New Kernels are being developed. I just wanted to create a thread where we can focus on Kernel discussion. We can talk about requests and features we want added. We can talk about removal of screen sharpeneing. There is a lot on the Horizon with this phone and I'm super excited for development.
Delete . I posted on the wrong thread.
jmotyka said:
Im not getting any fc's on the messaging app.??
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I'm slightly confused.
Maybe he is saying he misses those and would like a developer to look into adding them back in randomly ?
We are Android, we are diverse !
trent999 said:
Maybe he is saying he misses those and would like a developer to look into adding them back in randomly ?
We are Android, we are diverse !
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lol That was great. If anybody spots this thread in the wild and is testing for an aosp Rom. I'd like to ask if they've corrected screen sharpening? It's a pretty annoying feature.
Dunno if it's related to kernels or not, but I'd really like a permanent fix for the voicemail notification issue. I've tried most the solutions floating around here, but nothing seems to stick.
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low volt kern with a USB fast charge is all I need