We'll take Supra Rom for example.
If it LOOKS like AOSP, the apps WORK like AOSP, why isn't it considered AOSP?
Is there something that MAKES a Rom AOSP specifically?
Android Open Source Project. When you see AOSP it means its as basic as it gets.
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an AOSP ROM is compiled from the sources provided by the Android project.
SupraROM is still a Sense-based ROM, just with a bunch of AOSP stuff thrown in
Yes, my ROM isn't technically AOSP because it wasn't built directly from Google's source with ONLY Google programming. True AOSP has zero Sense in it, whereas mine was just heavily modified to look as much like AOSP as I could possibly make it. The new ROM in my sig however, Pulse, is true AOSP because it has no influence from HTC's devs. No apps from them, no framework from them, nothing. Just straight Android.
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my ROM isn't technically AOSP because it wasn't built directly from Google's source .... The new ROM in my sig however, Pulse, is true AOSP....
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Um, Pulse was not built from Google's source. If it was, where is your modified source code? Do you have a Github link?
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Um, Pulse was not built from Google's source. If it was, where is your modified source code? Do you have a Github link?
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I never said it was built from Google's source.
Okay, thank you everyone.
That's exactly what I thought.. but I just wanted to make sure whether there's something specific that sets them apart.
And Empiire, to be completely honest.. I LOOOOOVE SupraRom, just for that reason alone (that it's merged between the two). I hope you never stop working on it. =]
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Android Open Source Project. When you see AOSP it means its as basic as it gets.
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it seemed so sad to have all these posts about aosp but nobody provided a link to the actual repository where all official android developer publically released code and comments are kept!
for those interested and for the record - below is the link for the official aosp code in all its glory!!
http://android.git.kernel.org/
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Okay, thank you everyone.
That's exactly what I thought.. but I just wanted to make sure whether there's something specific that sets them apart.
And Empiire, to be completely honest.. I LOOOOOVE SupraRom, just for that reason alone (that it's merged between the two). I hope you never stop working on it. =]
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Well thank you, I was originally planning on leaving the thread to die but I've had plenty of PMs asking to keep development going, so I guess I will.
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Well thank you, I was originally planning on leaving the thread to die but I've had plenty of PMs asking to keep development going, so I guess I will.
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You should at least keep up on it until you get sound working on Pulse. Seriously, if we had an AOSP Rom with sound working I would be rockin it. I have to be able to make and receive calls, or I would be all over it. From what I understand, you can't hear the person you are calling. I'm going to continue to use Supra AOSP version until we get a working AOSP build with sound.
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You implied it. I quoted it. You defined an AOSP ROM as being one built from source then claimed Pulse was "true AOSP."
To the OP: their ROMs currently are "AOSP based" at best. They are not compiling these ROMs from source. They are "porting" them, in a sense.
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You implied it. I quoted it. You defined an AOSP ROM as being one built from source then claimed Pulse was "true AOSP."
To the OP: their ROMs currently are "AOSP based" at best. They are not compiling these ROMs from source. They are "porting" them, in a sense.
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Damn dude, chill. I'd check out a dictionary if I was going to be this technical about everything. Lmao.
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hello
could anyone give me how to install HTC sense for CM7 with android 2.3 ?
There is no way to do this.
I laughed at this request. But then realized some people really don't know these things.
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Agreed that this is kind of funny.
However, if the OP is looking for a sense "look" for CM7, this can be done with a CM7 theme install coupled with a launcher theme. While it won't be EXACTLY like sense, you can get pretty darn close. To the OP, check out the theme forum if this is what you are after.
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I laughed at this request. But then realized some people really don't know these things.
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i like htc sense but the problem is that there is no Arabic support in sense's roms! but in CM7 is supported! that's why i asked to install it with CM7!!
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Agreed that this is kind of funny.
However, if the OP is looking for a sense "look" for CM7, this can be done with a CM7 theme install coupled with a launcher theme. While it won't be EXACTLY like sense, you can get pretty darn close. To the OP, check out the theme forum if this is what you are after.
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Other than the look and feel, Sense offers what I believe is a very nice unified contacts application -
Although CM7 allows for linking together of contacts from various sources, Sense does this much more elegantly - even suggesting these links automatically.
Other than the Contacts, I also like the browser and the mail applications offered in Sense.
Android is built from AOSP (Android Open Source Project) code. Keeping that tradition, cyanogenmod builds on AOSP, adding device support and many many enchanced features, while maintaining an open source policy for devices ready for release.
HTC Sense is not. It's source is closed, and HTC frequently violates the GPL (Linux kernel licence) it is obligated to adhere to when it uses Linux kernel source to generate their firmware distributions. They delay releasing kernel source - sometimes for months - if at all, for a specific release, and never release complete, correct code. They never ever release code they are not required to - meaning they do not release and source code for the "Android" portion of their firmware. They are greedy liars and cheats.
HTC Sense is crap, and it's not real Android - it has forked so far from the Android tree. It's big fat bloated psuedo-android. HTC makes sense a one-word oxymoron.
I am considering buying the SGS2 very soon. I am going to root it but here is my question. If I wait to get pushed the ATT update to 4.0 ICS do I have to flash back to stock just to root it? I want to wait for the stock push of 4.0 and just wipe off the bloatware and not have to worry about custom ROMs etc. Thanks for the help.
Currently running captivate with cognition 4.5.3 froyo.
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Re: Root sgs2 after ATT update to ICS
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You should be able to root after the update. But we don't know yet for sure.
Way too early to tell. You aren't going to see an official AT&T ICS OTA update for many months - if the Captivate is any indicator, not for at least a year.
Just wait for a Rom to be made , im sure one will be as soon as the sources are avail... I stopped doing the Ota upgrades when i realized its easier to just change the Rom.... So root... imo
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Way too early to tell. You aren't going to see an official AT&T ICS OTA update for many months - if the Captivate is any indicator, not for at least a year.
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I'm hoping ATT/Samsung push it sooner because it's still one of ATT's highest end phones.
Of course, this is just wishful thinking.
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Reading this thread, suddenly triggering me asking this question, I don't know why I haven't asked before: is there any ongoing development for ICS ROM?
I assume most of the custom ROMs surface in here are Gingerbread based OS.
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Reading this thread, suddenly triggering me asking this question, I don't know why I haven't asked before: is there any ongoing development for ICS ROM?
I assume most of the custom ROMs surface in here are Gingerbread based OS.
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No source for ics yet so there is no development. Look in general forum there is a sticky talking about it. There is also Cm9 but it's not fully working yet on our device.
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No source for ics yet so there is no development. Look in general forum there is a sticky talking about it. There is also Cm9 but it's not fully working yet on our device.
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There is development
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No source for ics yet so there is no development. Look in general forum there is a sticky talking about it. There is also Cm9 but it's not fully working yet on our device.
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Google did release ICS source codes about a month ago, I'm sure you know that.
Alright, so only CM dev. team currently working on this then.
Thanks
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Google did release ICS source codes about a month ago, I'm sure you know that.
Alright, so only CM dev. team currently working on this then.
Thanks
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That's base platform source for Nexus devices with not a single bit of source for anything specific to the I9100 or I777.
You really need to educate yourself on what source has and has not been released, and what that source means and is used for, before posting crap like this.
Basically, I could spend a few hundred hours trying to port the 2.6.35.x drivers for Samsung-specific items to a vanilla Linux 3.0 kernel - only to have a halfassed buggy release ready after Samsung releases official ICS with kernel source for the I9100, which can be ported to the I777 in a matter of a few hours of work.
The CM dev team is not working on ICS for the I777 either - to get anything even working on the I9100 they had to resort to something they almost NEVER do, which is an initramfs repack of a binary kernel. Getting an I9100 binary kernel to work properly on an I777 is simply not possible - you can repack the initramfs all you want, the audio routing code will be different and so will the touchkey mapping code.
The only ICS development that will occur on the I777 prior to I9100 kernel source getting released (or an I777-specific leak showing up) is some basic reverse engineering efforts (mainly focused in audio routing), since the library swap Hellraiser uses can't be done with ICS (depends on audio blobs extracted from an I777 device.)
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That's base platform source for Nexus devices with not a single bit of source for anything specific to the I9100 or I777.
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Did i ever mention about Nexus devices which running ICS, ehhh?
You really need to educate yourself on what source has and has not been released, and what that source means and is used for, before posting crap like this.
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Wowww!!!
Just posted once sentence and being tagged with "crap like this"? LOL
By reading my English, do you understand that I just said Google has released ICS source codes? Did you see I am saying Google has released ICS source codes for I9100 or this specific i777, huh? Did you read and understand or just premature assumption?
Or you are telling me that you never know Google has release ICS source code?
Basically, I could spend a few hundred hours trying to port the 2.6.35.x drivers for Samsung-specific items to a vanilla Linux 3.0 kernel - only to have a halfassed buggy release ready after Samsung releases official ICS with kernel source for the I9100, which can be ported to the I777 in a matter of a few hours of work.
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Are you the one who create Entropy512 DD kernel? If yes, every minute you spent is well appreciated, left alone a few hundred of hours.
If so, yes, you seem to be very smart in Android field but in life, learn to grow up and act nicely, politely to others. Get some love, kiddo.
The CM dev team is not working on ICS for the I777 either - to get anything even working on the I9100 they had to resort to something they almost NEVER do, which is an initramfs repack of a binary kernel. Getting an I9100 binary kernel to work properly on an I777 is simply not possible - you can repack the initramfs all you want, the audio routing code will be different and so will the touchkey mapping code.
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Again, I don't know who is working on what so I asked. One of the poster mentioned about CM, so I just repeat it.
If they currently do it, great.
If they currently do not do it, it's ok.
I am just asking, 'cuz in B&N NOOKcolor forum, a lot of XDA dev. is WORKING on ICS ROM from ICS source code that released a while a go.
I thought XDA dev. in this room will also do the same.
The only ICS development that will occur on the I777 prior to I9100 kernel source getting released (or an I777-specific leak showing up) is some basic reverse engineering efforts (mainly focused in audio routing), since the library swap Hellraiser uses can't be done with ICS (depends on audio blobs extracted from an I777 device.)
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Good too know.
I've learnt something.
Thanks
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Did i ever mention about Nexus devices which running ICS, ehhh?
Wowww!!!
Just posted once sentence and being tagged with "crap like this"? LOL
By reading my English, do you understand that I just said Google has released ICS source codes? Did you see I am saying Google has released ICS source codes for I9100 or this specific i777, huh? Did you read and understand or just premature assumption?
Or you are telling me that you never know Google has release ICS source code?
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Another poster said we were waiting for source.
You replied to him saying Google posted source over a month ago. Thus implying that you thought that Nexus platform source would actually be sufficient on its own to get our device running ICS - it isn't, it's nowhere close.
I'm sick and tired of repeated "WHERE'S ICS? GOOGLE POSTED SOURCE OVER A MONTH AGO!" posts.
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Another poster said we were waiting for source.
You replied to him saying Google posted source over a month ago. Thus implying that you thought that Nexus platform source would actually be sufficient on its own to get our device running ICS - it isn't, it's nowhere close.
I'm sick and tired of repeated "WHERE'S ICS? GOOGLE POSTED SOURCE OVER A MONTH AGO!" posts.
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"Another poster" I assume you meant "eep2378, one that posted right above my "crappy post"?
Firstly, if eep not getting itchy, why you?
Secondly, I don't know what he meant about ICS for Nexus, and even if he meant that, he didn't spell out so I thought he meant the general ICS source code. In his next sentence, he actually mentioned about CM team working on it, even not fully function, w/o waiting for this specific phone ICS source code, so I thought he meant they, CM team are using the general source code, just like XDA dev. in B&N NOOKcolor room.
Thirdly, and if eep irritated about my post, I apologize him.
Now back to you, let's square and clear up all confuse, hardness.
You're a talented kid, good, keep it up. If you know something, teach us, I'm sure a lot of others will learn from you and quietly appreciate.
Be socialize with people around you, in real life or in cyber.
To the ICS related questions, if you don't want to answer, DO NOT answer, there's no one forces you to do so. There is no point to irritate about it.
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"Another poster" I assume you meant "eep2378, one that posted right above my "crappy post"?
Firstly, if eep not getting itchy, why you?
Secondly, I don't know what he meant about ICS for Nexus, and even if he meant that, he didn't spell out so I thought he meant the general ICS source code. In his next sentence, he actually mentioned about CM team working on it, even not fully function, w/o waiting for this specific phone ICS source code, so I thought he meant they, CM team are using the general source code, just like XDA dev. in B&N NOOKcolor room.
Thirdly, and if eep irritated about my post, I apologize him.
Now back to you, let's square and clear up all confuse, hardness.
You're a talented kid, good, keep it up. If you know something, teach us, I'm sure a lot of others will learn from you and quietly appreciate.
Be socialize with people around you, in real life or in cyber.
To the ICS related questions, if you don't want to answer, DO NOT answer, there's no one forces you to do so. There is no point to irritate about it.
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Ok let me try to clear up some confusion:
1) Nexus source code has nothing to do with I9100 or I777
2) I didn't mention anything about ICS for Nexus because(see #1) and this is the I777 forum NOT Nexus(another reason why I didn't mention it)
3)I mentioned CM9 because(RIGHT NOW) its the only thing that even approaches getting ICS on I9100 forget the I777. And Even Codeworkx(OP for CM9 aka Dev) is WAITING for ICS SOURCE to drop FOR THE I9100.
Only then, as Entropy said, are we able to get it working on the I777
4)I'm not "itchy" or irritated in the least and there is no need for an apology. Having said that I am fairly tired of reading posts about ICS source code being dropped/when are we getting ICS?/ Can ICS run on my I777?, etc.
Finally, ICS source code dropped FOR THE GALAXY NEXUS!! What does that mean for us?? SEE #1!!
@Entropy, I responded to you in another thread(in Q&A) Porting Bezke ICS KP8(yeah I know another one lol) regarding comments you made on Captivate and I9000 kernels being similar but I9100 and I777 not sharing the same similarities.
I'm sure you never went back to that thread, but didn't want bother you via pm
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There is development
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For the I777? Where?
I don't want to sound ignorant, but Samsung always releases the kernel source along with the ROM?
Can someone building this app from github? It looks pretty cool, but I don't know how to build nor do I think I have the equipment to.
Thanks!
Link: http://onskreen.com/cornerstone/index.php
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I think I can f*p to this
Developers, please help! , this could help take multitasking on android tablets to a whole new level!
Would like to see this myself!
Thats really really cool, hope the developers here will do a build with ICS with that fantastic experiment!
CyanogenMod team is working in building it into CM9.
Think it's only compatible with ics and gingerbread when ics is more common on devices I think more cooks will add it. I can't believe their is not more interest from dev on this. Cm9 and Thor, are building this into their rom.
Not an APP. This has to be built into the ROM itself. I have been searching for the "user built ROMS" on Onskreen's website but with no luck. CMteam is adding it to CM9 but a flashable zip to drop the right files into the right places would be increadible. This would give most people the option to use what ROM they want and then flash the "Cornerstone into said ROM. I am excited about this.
Including this into the ROMs might make Google decide to pull ROMs out of access to the Android Market I've read.
Not sure if and how this would all pan out.
edit: if CM would include this as an optional package that would remove the risk of excluding ROMs to the market, nice find mtjnkee
work in progress? or already an app ready?
I thunk it'll still a work in progress.
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http://forum.aokp.co/topic/38-build-23-special-onskreen-edition-wifi-only/
Roman from the aokp rom has a special edition of his rom with cornerstone built in. It is buggy (onskreen needs to fix it up a bit), but if you want to test it out here it is. For the wifi 10.1
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CyanogenMod team is working in building it into CM9.
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It's in an overnight build of AOKP--a one-time thing, I believe. It has a long way to go to be generally useable.
Skilover said:
It's in an overnight build of AOKP--a one-time thing, I believe. It has a long way to go to be generally useable.
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Yes but when I made the original post he hadn't included it yet.
Any roms for the a500 with this built in yet. Available now?
I think that once more devices start to implement ICS then we will see a much faster development time for these sort of OS enhancements
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CyanogenMod team is working in building it into CM9.
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For interested readers: plus(dot)google(dot)com/117962666888533781522/posts/bPKE7qtvwC9 CyanogenMod - The Cornerstone Breakup
So IMHO they're more on building an own solution to this, taking Cornerstone as an origin.
If anyone has a Touchpad laying around there is an CM9 Kang ROM with Cornerstone baked in over in the Touchpad development section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501637
Any progress?
This might be a silly question, but what exactly are the differences between the three Jellybean ROMs I see in the dev section (Paranoid, CM10, AOKP)?
None of these seem to have any kind of "feature log" or changelog.
Anyone have any insights?
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This might be a silly question, but what exactly are the differences between the three Jellybean ROMs I see in the dev section (Paranoid, CM10, AOKP)?
None of these seem to have any kind of "feature log" or changelog.
Anyone have any insights?
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Paranoid Android Is Jellybean
AOKP....not going there with that one
CMX, Pure build from code. Great rom.
differences, not exactly sure, but most will have a twitter to keep up with changes if possible
leo72793 said:
Paranoid Android Is Jellybean
AOKP....not going there with that one
CMX, Pure build from code. Great rom.
differences, not exactly sure, but most will have a twitter to keep up with changes if possible
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I'm not trying to be a ****, but you kind of didn't answer my question in any way.
a) What's wrong with AOKP?
b) I know Paranoid is JB, that's why I mentioned it. Are you saying it's stock JB? Kinda confused on the wording here.
c) Obviously, you're a fan of CM10 (aka CMX). What makes it so good compared to the other two? I see the thread for it has more posts (and thus seems to be more popular), but why?
Again, I'm not trying to be difficult. Just hoping to get an answer without having to flash 3 different ROMs.
Each ROM has different features.
CM isnt just straight AOSP
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Each ROM has different features.
CM isnt just straight AOSP
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As much as I am grateful that people are paying attention to this thread and attempting to answer, this is the 2nd non-answer I've received so far.
I know each ROM has different features, that's why I made this thread.
I know CM isn't just straight AOSP.
My issue is that unlike most of the Sense ROMs, these JB ROMs have no feature list at all, and don't even cite any sort of changelog. Thus, I can't make an informed decision on which ROM to flash.
leo72793 said:
Paranoid Android Is Jellybean
AOKP....not going there with that one
CMX, Pure build from code. Great rom.
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That's like.. not even fully correct.
Please make sure you know what you're talking about before you answer questions, as not knowing the answer will only cause more confusion.
To OP,
Paranoid: Paranoid Android is an AOSP JB ROM that focuses on the fusion of phone mode and tablet mode. Typically putting a phone into tablet mode would be cool, but some features of tablet mode just don't work that well on a phone. So they've worked on making the tablet mode experience work better on a phone. You can read more about it here.
AOKP: AOKP (Android Open Kang Project) is a highly customized AOSP build that is somewhat similar to CM in that it has a lot of tweaks available to it. AOKP actually has a bit more customization than CM, allowing you to center the clock, add the day of the week to the clock, weather in your notification menu, and a few other neat tricks. You can read more about it here.
CM10: CyanogenMod is the most popular custom Android ROM around, with a very large user base. It supports many different devices. We just recently received official support, meaning we will get official releases and nightlies on a daily basis. This is a plus for CM, because we don't have official support for AOKP and Paranoid, which means we might not always get the newest updates. While it has less ability for customization than AOKP, CM is still a very solid AOSP ROM. You can read more about it here.
All three are great ROMs, and at this point they have mostly the same bugs. I would personally suggest CM10 because the development for it is a bit more active and I've noticed better battery life and less buggyness while running that over AOKP.
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That's like.. not even fully correct.
Please make sure you know what you're talking about before you answer questions, as not knowing the answer will only cause more confusion.
To OP,
Paranoid: Paranoid Android is an AOSP JB ROM that focuses on the fusion of phone mode and tablet mode. Typically putting a phone into tablet mode would be cool, but some features of tablet mode just don't work that well on a phone. So they've worked on making the tablet mode experience work better on a phone. You can read more about it here.
AOKP: AOKP (Android Open Kang Project) is a highly customized AOSP build that is somewhat similar to CM in that it has a lot of tweaks available to it. AOKP actually has a bit more customization than CM, allowing you to center the clock, add the day of the week to the clock, weather in your notification menu, and a few other neat tricks. You can read more about it here.
CM10: CyanogenMod is the most popular custom Android ROM around, with a very large user base. It supports many different devices. We just recently received official support, meaning we will get official releases and nightlies on a daily basis. This is a plus for CM, because we don't have official support for AOKP and Paranoid, which means we might not always get the newest updates. While it has less ability for customization than AOKP, CM is still a very solid AOSP ROM. You can read more about it here.
All three are great ROMs, and at this point they have mostly the same bugs. I would personally suggest CM10 because the development for it is a bit more active and I've noticed better battery life and less buggyness while running that over AOKP.
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Thanks you so much for your in-depth answer.
I'll do some more research with the provided links, and will probably flash something tonight.
Thanks again.
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Thanks you so much for your in-depth answer.
I'll do some more research with the provided links, and will probably flash something tonight.
Thanks again.
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No problem. I would suggest trying them all, since there are differences between each of them.
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As much as I am grateful that people are paying attention to this thread and attempting to answer, this is the 2nd non-answer I've received so far.
I know each ROM has different features, that's why I made this thread.
I know CM isn't just straight AOSP.
My issue is that unlike most of the Sense ROMs, these JB ROMs have no feature list at all, and don't even cite any sort of changelog. Thus, I can't make an informed decision on which ROM to flash.
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It was directed more twards the poster above me. My pizza got delivered in the middle of typing so I had to go let the guy in. Sorry my post was so short and abrupt.
SoraX did a great job of explaining the main goals/differences between the ROMS>
The reason there isnt a changelog is because at this point the developers are more focused on getting things working 100%. Its the nature of the beast.
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It was directed more twards the poster above me. My pizza got delivered in the middle of typing so I had to go let the guy in. Sorry my post was so short and abrupt.
SoraX did a great job of explaining the main goals/differences between the ROMS>
The reason there isnt a changelog is because at this point the developers are more focused on getting things working 100%. Its the nature of the beast.
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Ah, gotcha. Sorry for the attitude.
Im somewhat tech savvy but im kinda stumped on this whole aosp thing. Im trying to use juice defender to save extra battery life but some of the better features are disabled because it says aosp isn't available. I'm currently running the I777 aokp rom and the siyah kernal but I don't know how to enable aosp, if its even available. I thought aokp was one of the better roms out there and I remember way back when aokp was pretty newish on the I777, it still had these features available, so im just wondering whatsup.
Thnx folks
Aosp is the stock android created by google, if you have seen cyanogen roms then you have seen aosp, of course cyanogenmod merges "his" own tweaks and features to improve stock aosp, now aokp is aosp plus cyanogenmod plus other features from other developers plus plus plus. Things are not EXACTLY as I explained but I'm trying to keep it simple, so, to answer your question, the aokp rom you're using is actually a heavily tweaked aosp rom. Get it?
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crossmission said:
Aosp is the stock android created by google, if you have seen cyanogen roms then you have seen aosp, of course cyanogenmod merges "his" own tweaks and features to improve stock aosp, now aokp is aosp plus cyanogenmod plus other features from other developers plus plus plus. Things are not EXACTLY as I explained but I'm trying to keep it simple, so, to answer your question, the aokp rom you're using is actually a heavily tweaked aosp rom. Get it?
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Ok so then why do these features not work if ours are heavily tweaked. If anything it should allow us to do so right?
aspen1135 said:
Ok so then why do these features not work if ours are heavily tweaked. If anything it should allow us to do so right?
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You don't really understand what you're asking. AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project, and it is the method by which Google makes the latest vanilla Android source code available to developers. AOKP is based on code taken from AOSP. What "features" are you asking about?
aspen1135 said:
Ok so then why do these features not work if ours are heavily tweaked. If anything it should allow us to do so right?
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Considering you are aware it is already tweaked, why do you want to install JuiceDefender so all it can do is consume more battery? None of those battery saving apps help they only consume more to run. Their only features are disabling the sync, data, wifi, bt. All features you can already disable easy enough when you are not using.
Juice defender worked well on gingerbread and earlier versions of android. It's not really needed any longer as the android system has come a long way in power savings and reliability.
Juice defender actually has some nice features like auto disable Wi-Fi based on GPS location, auto disable gps when not in use, and auto switch network modes based on coverage. I had it setup before so when I was home, wireless would stay on (for downloads and updates) and I usually had it plugged in at home so it wasn't a problem. I could leave my house without worrying about toggling Wi-Fi or GPS for draining additional battery and could come home to have it automatically on. Switching networks based on coverage not only improved battery life but also improved my data performance, as it cuts in and out a lot on the poor 4g coverage in my city so far. Can you guys answer my question a little more directly? If this aokp Rom isn't compatible, which Rom is most similar, with these capabilitys?
I looked in the i777 index and under 'aosp roms' I saw cm9. Not cm10 but cm9. I'm going to give it a try and see if these extra features work.
aspen1135 said:
I looked in the i777 index and under 'aosp roms' I saw cm9. Not cm10 but cm9. I'm going to give it a try and see if these extra features work.
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You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
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Can you guys answer my question a little more directly? If this aokp Rom isn't compatible, which Rom is most similar, with these capabilitys?
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What capabilities? We have been as direct as linguistically possible with our answers.
aspen1135 said:
I looked in the i777 index and under 'aosp roms' I saw cm9. Not cm10 but cm9. I'm going to give it a try and see if these extra features work.
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What features? What the hell are you even asking?
Did you not even read what I told you? I explained exactly what AOSP is, and it light of that it's pretty obvious that both CM9 and CM10 are AOSP-based roms.
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What capabilities? We have been as direct as linguistically possible with our answers.
What features? What the hell are you even asking?
Did you not even read what I told you? I explained exactly what AOSP is, and it light of that it's pretty obvious that both CM9 and CM10 are AOSP-based roms.
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He wants to know which rom will enable the extra features of juice defender. He is saying that the app requires an AOSP rom to enable those features, but since AOKP technically is AOSP, it doesn't make sense as to why those extra juice defender features won't work. Unless, it's requiring a purely stock AOSP rom.
I personally have never used juice defender, so I have no idea.
aspen1135 said:
I looked in the i777 index and under 'aosp roms' I saw cm9. Not cm10 but cm9. I'm going to give it a try and see if these extra features work.
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Don't know how else to explain what has been said to you... aosp != touchwiz. If it doesn't have touchwiz its aosp. And juice defender is pretty useless. Just try a ROM without it first and you will see you don't need JD
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He wants to know which rom will enable the extra features of juice defender. He is saying that the app requires an AOSP rom to enable those features, but since AOKP technically is AOSP, it doesn't make sense as to why those extra juice defender features won't work. Unless, it's requiring a purely stock AOSP rom.
I personally have never used juice defender, so I have no idea.
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Ah, I see. Sounds like the problem is with JuiceDefender having compatibility issues with JB. I used to use it with GB TouchWiz, but I haven't touched it since I went to ICS/JB.
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Ah, I see. Sounds like the problem is with JuiceDefender having compatibility issues with JB. I used to use it with GB TouchWiz, but I haven't touched it since I went to ICS/JB.
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Exactly. That's what I'm saying. It's really not needed anymore. I can get 4 hours screen on time and 24 hours of use and I don't ever kill an app, restart, and I have mail syncing and gps on. I suppose it's just personal preference or placebo affect, thinking you're saving more battery than you actually are with JD. At least with ics and jb. Gingerbread it worked well for me.
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You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
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So why don't you get off your high horse and explain it in a manner that an average user can understand? Jeez...some people.. I know I can't be the only one that doesn't know exactly what aosp is.
aspen1135 said:
So why don't you get off your high horse and explain it in a manner that an average user can understand? Jeez...some people.. I know I can't be the only one that doesn't know exactly what aosp is.
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Second post it was explained. Aosp is stock android. Android Open Source Project. Aokp is stock android customized. Android Open Kang Project. Aokp uses Aosp to make its ROMs. Cm also use Aosp.
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He wants to know which rom will enable the extra features of juice defender. He is saying that the app requires an AOSP rom to enable those features, but since AOKP technically is AOSP, it doesn't make sense as to why those extra juice defender features won't work. Unless, it's requiring a purely stock AOSP rom.
I personally have never used juice defender, so I have no idea.
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Bing bing bing, this guy gets it. I've tried multiple aosp roms including just plain cm9 and still had no luck, im beginning to think it's just an issue with juice defender.
Ps folks. you all dont have to be jackasses when someones asking for some clear clarification on something. We are all here to learn
122ninjas said:
Second post it was explained. Aosp is stock android. Android Open Source Project. Aokp is stock android customized. Android Open Kang Project. Aokp uses Aosp to make its ROMs. Cm also use Aosp.
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I understood what aosp meant, but it was not the only factor in this post. My main question and concern was related to juice defender not working, and iv come to the conclusion that it hardly works on the majority of custom roms, aosp or not
aspen1135 said:
Bing bing bing, this guy gets it. I've tried multiple aosp roms including just plain cm9 and still had no luck, im beginning to think it's just an issue with juice defender.
Ps folks. you all dont have to be jackasses when someones asking for some clear clarification on something. We are all here to learn
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aspen1135 said:
I understood what aosp meant, but it was not the only factor in this post. My main question and concern was related to juice defender not working, and iv come to the conclusion that it hardly works on the majority of custom roms, aosp or not
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I was not being a jackass, it was explained multiple times and you didn't seem to be able to comprehend that. And yeah your problem is juice defender. Stop using it.
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