I am still running MC3, rooted with casual. I have read one post in the developer section that said I had to upgrade to MJ9 first before I can flash ND7. Is that correct? Since I have already a custom recovery, it doesn't make much sense to my why. Could someone please clarify or explain.
Thanks In advance
You do not flash MJ9 official tar you have to the firmware which contains the params and tz images for you to have working WiFi on 4.3. ND7 is 4.4.2 so you would still need to flash that firmware to have working WiFi.. got it?
But whatever you do.. do NOT flash MJ9 official tar then you will have locked bootloader
After some more reading and your response, I think I got it. The firmware is so different that mj9 won't work with the original parameters regardless of the rom . Thanks
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after flashing some of the new 4.3 TW roms i currently have MJ9. if i wanted to go back to MC3 to run older roms do i have to odin back to stock or is there an MC3 zip i can just flash? or even just odin an MC3 file? or is it ok to use MJ9 with any rom? so far i havent noticed any weird happenings using MJ9 on a 4.4 rom
Are you referring to just the Modem/Radios?
Yes
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You can download the MC3 modem .zip from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108510
Just flash through recovery like normal. You may or may not need to flash depending on what Rom you go back to, as far as I know the modem isn't version specific.
Hi..
I just lost a phone and Asurian Insurance company just sent me a new Note 2 for Verizon (I605) with stock rom 4.3.
My question is is there a way to unlock this phone and load the custom rom ?
If there is could anyone send me a link and detail instructions how to do it?
I have heard if someone is on 4.3 they are stuck and there is no way out until someone comes up with a way.
Please let me know if there is a way to unlock and load custom on rom 4.3.
Thank you
jimcho74 said:
Hi..
I just lost a phone and Asurian Insurance company just sent me a new Note 2 for Verizon (I605) with stock rom 4.3.
My question is is there a way to unlock this phone and load the custom rom ?
If there is could anyone send me a link and detail instructions how to do it?
I have heard if someone is on 4.3 they are stuck and there is no way out until someone comes up with a way.
Please let me know if there is a way to unlock and load custom on rom 4.3.
Thank you
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Only way would be to send the phone to mobiletechvideos which cost.
There is also the option of safestrap which can be found under the development section. This doesn't unlock the bootloader, but let's you load some of the 4.3 based touchwiz roms. You have to root first before you can do that, and I have heard that saferoot works well. You also need to be on 4.3 mj9. There are 2 versions of 4.3 for this phone. If you are on the other version you can use Odin to flash the mj9 version.
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Only way would be to send the phone to mobiletechvideos which cost.
There is also the option of safestrap which can be found under the development section. This doesn't unlock the bootloader, but let's you load some of the 4.3 based touchwiz roms. You have to root first before you can do that, and I have heard that saferoot works well. You also need to be on 4.3 mj9. There are 2 versions of 4.3 for this phone. If you are on the other version you can use Odin to flash the mj9 version.
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Could I get a instruction link on how to root and load safestrap ?
I do have mj9 on my note 2.
I am used to odin but safestrap is new ti me.
thaks
BluGuy said:
Only way would be to send the phone to mobiletechvideos which cost.
There is also the option of safestrap which can be found under the development section. This doesn't unlock the bootloader, but let's you load some of the 4.3 based touchwiz roms. You have to root first before you can do that, and I have heard that saferoot works well. You also need to be on 4.3 mj9. There are 2 versions of 4.3 for this phone. If you are on the other version you can use Odin to flash the mj9 version.
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I just ran saferoot and it worked really well and very easy way to root the phone. (Thx BluGuy)
Now what custome rom should I install? and I just use the Odin to load the custom rom just like before?
What about the Custom recovery?
Do I need to install safestrap as well?
I need help...
Thanks
First stay away from flashing roms in odin while on 4.3 mj9 you will brick your phone. Second you can flash any 4.3 rom over the stock rom with safestrap but!!! Make sure its a rom that can be flashed with safestrap no room for error here be sure, remember this boot loader is locked so no flashing roms in the other rom slots they still need debugging
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Hey everyone, this is my first post in the Verizon GN2 area. I just swapped my TMo GN2 for a BNIB Verizon Gn2, still has stock MC3. Popped in SIM to make sure all was good, it started to DL the OTA update, so I yanked the battery and SIM until I have it rooted. I have a lot of experience with rooting, ROMS and flashing, but with a same-but-different device, I would like the pro's here to give me a few pointers, if possible.
Best root method for a device with older firmware?
Is the ND7 radio flashable on older kernel\bootloader combos?
If you were in my shoes, what steps would you take to root and flash to keep maximum flexibility in the future?
Thanks to all the devs for their hard work, and thanks in advice for any pointers!
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Hey everyone, this is my first post in the Verizon GN2 area. I just swapped my TMo GN2 for a BNIB Verizon Gn2, still has stock MC3. Popped in SIM to make sure all was good, it started to DL the OTA update, so I yanked the battery and SIM until I have it rooted. I have a lot of experience with rooting, ROMS and flashing, but with a same-but-different device, I would like the pro's here to give me a few pointers, if possible.
Best root method for a device with older firmware?
Is the ND7 radio flashable on older kernel\bootloader combos?
If you were in my shoes, what steps would you take to root and flash to keep maximum flexibility in the future?
Thanks to all the devs for their hard work, and thanks in advice for any pointers!
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1. Best root method for a device with older firmware?
To root and unlock the bootloader on stock 4.1.2, you need to use Adam Outler's CASUAL program found here: ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2272066 ). The version of Casual that worked for me was R515.... just make sure you totally disable all virus scanning on your computer before running it... (you may need to kill processes in Task Manager to stop Window's Defender).
2. Is the ND7 radio flashable on older kernel\bootloader combos?
As far as radio’s/modems go... I know you can flash newer radios on the older ROM/kernel combos.... but I would probably just use the radio that's recommended in the thread for whatever custom ROM you plan to flash.
Here’s some links to where you can grab the radios:
--Grab Beanstown106’s modified ODIN flashable firmware package for MJ9 from the bottom of the first post in this thread: ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578458 )
--You can grab older recovery flashable radios/modems here: ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108510 )
--Here's a link for the ND7 4.4.2 RADIO (scroll down on the first post to find it under downloads). It is meant to be flashed in recovery, but it may be a good idea to ODIN flash Beanstown106's modified MJ9 firmware first.... ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2765021 )
--Here's a thread with helpful steps on how to flash the modems in recovery: ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43217826&highlight=install#post43217826 )
--Also, here's a link to a post with more detailed instructions on how to Odin flash the MJ9 firmware after you download and unzip the file... ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50047714&highlight=unzip#post50047714 ).
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3. If you were in my shoes, what steps would you take to root and flash to keep maximum flexibility in the future?
If you flash any full stock builds newer than VRAMC3 4.1.2, then you'll end up locking the bootloader with no way to unlock it at this point (so don't ODIN flash full stock 4.3 or 4.4.2 or take OTA's if you want to keep the option to flash a custom recovery/kernel/etc...). Use the recovery flashable 4.3 and 4.4.2 based ROM's in the development threads if you want to experience features from those builds and maintain ability to unlock bootloader. In my personal experience, I've found 4.1.2 based ROM's to be the most stable for me with the fewest overall problems. I ran JellyBeans build 22 as my main "go to" ROM for a long time with no real problems.... (that was the last JellyBeans ROM that he put out with a 4.1.2 base before he moved on to 4.3 for that ROM. You can still grab the older JellyBeans build 22 from Beanstown106's Android File Host if you're interested.... just go to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032447 -- and scroll down on the first post to find the link for the older builds).
I'd also recommend that you read through all the stickies in the development/general/help threads, just to get familiar with all the ins and outs of this phone. Especially check out droidstyle's Guide on – ( "How to Root/Rom/Return to Stock the VZW Galaxy Note II" ). This will save your butt if you mess something up and need to return to stock to start over.
Thanks for the info!
I think I will stick with the MC3 BL for now, and try to find a 4.4.2 flashable ROM that works well. Most of the ones I've looked at are saying they require the MJ9 or later BL...seems odd to require a locked bootloader. Recommendations are welcome, but I'm not against doing my homework. Thanks again for the reply and info. Already have root and flashed a few ROMs that did not make the grade, but will keep looking.
OwenW71 said:
Thanks for the info!
I think I will stick with the MC3 BL for now, and try to find a 4.4.2 flashable ROM that works well. Most of the ones I've looked at are saying they require the MJ9 or later BL...seems odd to require a locked bootloader. Recommendations are welcome, but I'm not against doing my homework. Thanks again for the reply and info. Already have root and flashed a few ROMs that did not make the grade, but will keep looking.
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Mj9 is the radio. Never upgrade your bootloader or you will be locked.
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@ OwenW71,
I know it's kind of confusing... but the link I gave you to Beanstown106’s modified MJ9 firmware package at: ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578458 )... it is not the official stock mj9 firmware... It's just needed for updating the radios/wifi to use when flashing custom 4.3+ ROM'S from the development threads.
Like michigan66 said... you don't want to take any OTA's for 4.3/4.4.2...or odin flash the official stock Verizon 4.3/4.4.2 firmware... because that will lock the bootloader with no way for you to unlock it.
mattnmag said:
@ OwenW71,
I know it's kind of confusing... but the link I gave you to Beanstown106’s modified MJ9 firmware package at: ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578458 )... it is not the official stock mj9 firmware... It's just needed for updating the radios/wifi to use when flashing custom 4.3+ ROM'S from the development threads.
Like michigan66 said... you don't want to take any OTA's for 4.3/4.4.2...or odin flash the official stock Verizon 4.3/4.4.2 firmware... because that will lock the bootloader with no way for you to unlock it.
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So that thread says it is a full firmware package, but you're saying it will leave my bootloader alone? I'm not accustomed to seeing Odin packages that don't mess with the BL. According to the post, I flash the firmware with Odin, then use Recovery to flash the ROM? It did not state how the ROM is flashed.
It also looks like TWRP is not in favor right now, but it is the recovery that the jailbreak provides. Guess I should switch to Philz. Ah, so much to do...
THanks again!
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So that thread says it is a full firmware package, but you're saying it will leave my bootloader alone? I'm not accustomed to seeing Odin packages that don't mess with the BL. According to the post, I flash the firmware with Odin, then use Recovery to flash the ROM? It did not state how the ROM is flashed.
It also looks like TWRP is not in favor right now, but it is the recovery that the jailbreak provides. Guess I should switch to Philz. Ah, so much to do...
THanks again!
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So where BeansTown106 says.... "You Need to Flash This Full Firmware Package Via Odin to get the new modem and to get wifi to work..."— for clarification, this is not factory stock Verizon firmware. Beanstown106 modified things and this is just the radio/wifi related portion. It will not change the VRAMC3 bootloader.
Yes, you will flash custom ROM'S via a zip file in custom recovery.... (you don't want to flash any custom ROM'S in Odin after using CASUAL-- see this thread for more about why: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35396049).
TWRP works fine for some ROM's and Philz or CWM is recommended for others. Most ROM threads recommend a recovery and I would just use whatever is recommended for the custom ROM that you decide to flash.
Okay, thanks! I was aware of the warning about using Odin for custom ROMs, so that is part of what gave me pause about flashing MJ9, in addition to the BL concern.
Thanks so much for the guidance. The stickies are good, but they did not really spell out the process for keeping an unlocked BL while still making my way up a more current firmware.
Honestly, guys like you make this forum a joy. I very briefly used the iPhone 5s that work gave me, and I was going ape****. I'm not an Apple hater, but iPhones suck. Slow, bad apps, bad gps, no customization. So glad to come back from the dark side! And with guys like this to help a fella out, can there be any question which side is on the side of light and goodness?
Cheers!
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I got a used Note 2 that was already updated to the mj9 version with the locked bootloader. I rooted it using saferoot and installed safestrap.. Been trying out the mj9 roms and I like the ones I've used, but I want to know if there's a way to update this still awesome beast of a phone to nd7 or higher. I've downloaded the I605VRUFND7_I605VZWFND7_VZW.zip file from samroms, but it's still sitting untouched because I haven't seen anything definite.. I'm currently running Alliance build 26 mj9 version, but I also have build 30 nd7 version and Nephilim.STABLE.EMJ9.ROM.v8.0-FINAL-R3Ds.zip
downloaded and sitting on my sdcard with the official nd7 update from samroms..
Basically I wonder if I can just Odin the official samroms nd7? If there is a bootimg I need to delete first? Can I wipe and install the alliance build 30 for nd7?
I suppose mainly I want to get a newer Android version going and want to know the best way to go about it.. The phone isn't activated with Verizon, and I only use it on Wi-Fi, not as an actual phone..
Any tips, suggestions, or ideas are appreciated. Thanks in advance to the best community out there..
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I got a used Note 2 that was already updated to the mj9 version with the locked bootloader. I rooted it using saferoot and installed safestrap.. Been trying out the mj9 roms and I like the ones I've used, but I want to know if there's a way to update this still awesome beast of a phone to nd7 or higher. I've downloaded the I605VRUFND7_I605VZWFND7_VZW.zip file from samroms, but it's still sitting untouched because I haven't seen anything definite.. I'm currently running Alliance build 26 mj9 version, but I also have build 30 nd7 version and Nephilim.STABLE.EMJ9.ROM.v8.0-FINAL-R3Ds.zip
downloaded and sitting on my sdcard with the official nd7 update from samroms..
Basically I wonder if I can just Odin the official samroms nd7? If there is a bootimg I need to delete first? Can I wipe and install the alliance build 30 for nd7?
I suppose mainly I want to get a newer Android version going and want to know the best way to go about it.. The phone isn't activated with Verizon, and I only use it on Wi-Fi, not as an actual phone..
Any tips, suggestions, or ideas are appreciated. Thanks in advance to the best community out there..
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Since your bootloader is locked (and the bootloader is unlockable on 4.3+), the only options I can think of for you would be to.... 1). either stay on 4.3 MJ9 with Safestrap and use 4.3 stock based roms - OR - 2). upgrade the phone to stock 4.4.2 and then root it with Ghettoroot and use Safestrap to run 4.4.2 stock based ROM's. (Due to having a locked bootloader-- you are forced to use stock based ROM's that use the stock kernel when using Safestrap). So, if your phone is on a 4.3 based bootloader - you have to stay with 4.3 based stock ROM's. Once you go to 4.4.2, you have to stay with 4.4.2 stock based ROM's.
My Note 2 is still on the 4.1.2 bootloader, so I haven't personally had to use Safestrap on the Note 2.... but I've read where others say that they've successfully used Safestrap on 4.4.2 after getting the phone rooted.
Personally, I prefer 4.3 to 4.4.2 on my Note 2. I could never find a 4.4.2 based ROM that didn't have some sort of bug that drove me crazy(ier). Either the bluetooth audio would stutter, I would get a lot of lagging with the UI, or would get poor battery life. However, many others report having good success with 4.4.2, so you might be happy with upgrading. I actually decided to come back to the 4.3/MJ9 based Jett ROM v. 3.0, as it does everything that I want in a ROM, works well with my Sony SW3 smartwatch, and runs very stable with great battery life. If you haven't tried out Jett ROM yet, you might want to give it a try (you can find it in the development forum).
Since your phone isn't activated - you obviously won't be getting OTA's, so you'll have to use ODIN if you want to upgrade. If you do decide to upgrade the phone to 4.4.2, you won't be able to return to 4.3 again due to the locked bootloader issue. Also.... if you upgrade 4.4.2, you may want to restore back to total stock 4.3 first and make sure it's wiped clean with a factory reset-- just to make sure nothing is leftover that could mess up the upgrade to 4.4.2.
Good luck!
Hey mattnmag, thanks for the info! It was a good read, and I didn't realize that if I upgraded to kit kat I wouldn't be able to downgrade back to jellybean if I didn't like it.. I've still got all the files I need except for the mj9 stock firmware, so I'll have to dl that before I get too crazy with this thing..
But I did dl the Jett ROM, and I'm gonna give that a run later tonight probably.. Just gotta get my backups onto the PC first just in case.. I hate doing full wipes though.. Because I'm lazy and don't like reinstalling everything lol..
What I'd really like it's too have my cyanogenmod back.. I had that on my old Droid RAZR and loved it..
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Not totally sure about this file, but looking inside of it, it has a modem, and the right name for an i605
I am going to give it a try, over the next week, will let you know how it goes.
Droid_Nut said:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19672761/toltevzw_mj9_official_firmware.tar.md5
Not totally sure about this file, but looking inside of it, it has a modem, and the right name for an i605
I am going to give it a try, over the next week, will let you know how it goes.
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that appears to not just be the radio but the upgrade to MJ9 firmware, there are separate radio only custom recovery flashable zips. The file you linked appears to be the ODIN update for firmware (this file was required to upgrade from jellybean to kitkat/lollipop).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2598225 (post #2, in context of that thread is good)
fallen00Sniper's repo of files (including the mj9 firmware and nd7 radio)
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=35087
His repo (radio & root folders) has all the files you should need AFTER returning to PRE-MJ9 stock (PRE MJ9 return to stick is important if you desire stock to retain the ability to unlock your bootloader for AOSP based roms like CyanogenMod, etc.)
read up, proceed with caution & good luck!
jheide44 said:
that appears to not just be the radio but the upgrade to MJ9 firmware, there are separate radio only custom recovery flashable zips. The file you linked appears to be the ODIN update for firmware (this file was required to upgrade from jellybean to kitkat/lollipop).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2598225 (post #2, in context of that thread is good)
fallen00Sniper's repo of files (including the mj9 firmware and nd7 radio)
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=35087
His repo (radio & root folders) has all the files you should need AFTER returning to PRE-MJ9 stock (PRE MJ9 return to stick is important if you desire stock to retain the ability to unlock your bootloader for AOSP based roms like CyanogenMod, etc.)
read up, proceed with caution & good luck!
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Thanks for catching that for me, I was looking for the MJ9 radio, because right now I am on Baseband VRAMC3, and I wanted to give this rom a try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2765021
I am coming for 4.1.2 so I thought I would have to install the MJ9 radio, I did not realize I could just install the ND7 radio instead?
So do I just need to install the custom rom and the radio from the fallen00sniper downloads, and can I do all of this with TWRP, or do I need to odin it?
Thanks!
So I put the ND7 radio in via TWRP in my 2 notes. Seems to be working fine so far. I realized I could not do this with odin as they are zipped.
Droid_Nut said:
Thanks for catching that for me, I was looking for the MJ9 radio, because right now I am on Baseband VRAMC3, and I wanted to give this rom a try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2765021
I am coming for 4.1.2 so I thought I would have to install the MJ9 radio, I did not realize I could just install the ND7 radio instead?
So do I just need to install the custom rom and the radio from the fallen00sniper downloads, and can I do all of this with TWRP, or do I need to odin it?
Thanks!
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So I put the ND7 radio in via TWRP in my 2 notes. Seems to be working fine so far. I realized I could not do this with odin as they are zipped.
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rule of thumb, you only feed odin .md5 files (and maybe the occasional .pit file, but the pit file is only used for a return to VRALJB stock clean slate scenario, for those of us with unlocked bootloaders)
to borrow a line from the battlestar galactica "All this has happened before. All this will all happen again". so instead of explaining i'll just provide a few links to good reading material.
to upgrade your i605 to the KitKat/Lollipop world, you will need that MJ9 firmware update installed via odin... just unzip it to get the MD5 file.
Instructions on how to get MJ9 firmware update via ODIN (AOSP Root/Unlocked Bootloader friendly):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2598225
Note: you have to unzip the file to get the .md5 file to feed odin... AFTER reading the link above, a picture is worth 1000 words, please see the attached image for what ODIN should look like after this upgrade.
EDIT: oops you are already on TWRP, skip this paragraph
FWIW, I've always been a CWM recovery guy (since the SCH-i510 days)... on my i605 i used Philz. My current understanding is that TWRP is the way to go now, here are a few links to get you started. (clockwork mod is no longer in the custom recovery business.)
TWRP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2045829
http://www.teamw.in/project/twrp2/133/
I will not tell you what rom to use, but for me after graduation from TW based roms to AOSP/CM roms, my next logical progression was into the Nexus 6 world. it works on VZW, and the radios leave my options open.
my Favorite AOSP Roms (assuming you, or any reader, is not in a safe strap touchwiz rom only situation):
after using the offical CM roms from sbrissen for CM11, I migrated to wilson3q's CM12.1 ROM
[ROM][5.1.1][CM12.1][SABER][20151123] Unofficial Build - i605 ***FASTER***
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-2-verizon/development/rom-unofficial-build-i605-t3069506
Disclaimer:
of course, YMMV, hack at your own risk, i'm just a crazy guy from the internet (listening to me could break your phone and ruin your life), etc.
jheide44 thanks for all the info, I am currently sporting 2, Note 2's with CM12.1, one for biz, and one for personal. The Note 2 forum is getting quieter as the phone slips into extinction.
I was going to try a custom touchwiz rom in hopes that the Samsung software for my Galaxy Gear1 would not complain, but I doubt that is going to work, so I ordered a Sony 3 Android wear watch, hope it behaves well with CM12.1?
I am up to ND7 thanks to you and the links.
So is the Wilson CM rom faster than the official CM12.1? Might have to give that a try?
Take Care.
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jheide44 thanks for all the info, I am currently sporting 2, Note 2's with CM12.1, one for biz, and one for personal. The Note 2 forum is getting quieter as the phone slips into extinction.
I was going to try a custom touchwiz rom in hopes that the Samsung software for my Galaxy Gear1 would not complain, but I doubt that is going to work, so I ordered a Sony 3 Android wear watch, hope it behaves well with CM12.1?
I am up to ND7 thanks to you and the links.
So is the Wilson CM rom faster than the official CM12.1? Might have to give that a try?
Take Care.
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wilson's is the best imho
This^^^^