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I don't know how useful will be this thread, but hope that LG will update also the G2 to L ( but i ask, why it shouldn't?)
What do you think?
Considering a post was made about way before this one....
Idk only good things are art and notification bar colour
Im really looking forward for Android L based Cyanogen Mod.. Any tips when we can expect nightly?
fabioio will try to port the L http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53703092&postcount=806
I think porting from Nexus 5 will be a lot easier than some of the crazy stuff devs already did. I am confident we will get some nice roms in the coming weeks, for now I am still playing around with G3 ROM
Greetings
I can't wait for some roms to arrive. Love having the bleed immersive effect using xposed (and I like matching the colour of status bar to the nav bar too), and am really impressed with the new design. It's about time some proper consistency was brought into the look.
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fabioio will try to port the L http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53703092&postcount=806
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preparing squee.
I wonder if notification changes will appear on LG's Android L version. Right now I don't want to change my stock rom to vanilla android because of stock rom functions, but the vanilla really got prettier.
Best of both worlds?
If LG gets L on G2....it won't be until Fall I think.
Hopefully we will keep the G3-ish looks on the launcher. And the goodies from L.
To be honest, quite a few things G3 rom already have....like the bleed immerse...
We got a smart notice thing on lock screen.
I don't expect the G2 to offically get Android L at all
If the G2 doesn't get L that would mean it got about 2 months worth of updates. That would be pathetic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2796129
Keyboard is working on optimusg3
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It should be possible to port L over to G2 now since the Nexus 5 and G2 have very similar hardware. I'd imagine any willing dev would be able to do it very easily.
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If the G2 doesn't get L that would mean it got about 2 months worth of updates. That would be pathetic.
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There's a .05% chance of the G2 being updated to L, 4.4.3 is more likely to be the final nail. The G3 will probably receive L after the HTC M8/M7, HTC actually made a pledge to update their phones.
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This is why I will never buy a LG again! the lack of updates is very disappointing. HTC have now pulled there finger out there butt's and say they will update the m8 m7 90 days after final release of L. LG have lots of catching up here in this department that's for sure.
It took the carrier G2 models forever to get 4.4. I surprised we even got it at all. For all the complaint about Samsung and other OEMs received over late updates, LG takes that much longer. It's a shame, too, because LG makes some great hardware and software. I love the UI on the G3. It's my favorite skin, but it seems LG does have a habit of not supporting their devices. They don't seem to care about the backlash either, unlike HTC. Motorola, Samsung, & HTC all changed their update habits. Why can't LG?
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Everything I've read in this discussion so far has been ungrounded opinions about whether we get Android L or not. I'd say it's a bit early to say, considering it was only just announced and only a preview has been released. Scepticism about even getting the update just creates doubt in peoples minds. So unless you work for LG and have inside knowledge, you're just thumb sucking, which sucks.
Ace42 said:
There's a .05% chance of the G2 being updated to L, 4.4.3 is more likely to be the final nail. The G3 will probably receive L after the HTC M8/M7, HTC actually made a pledge to update their phones.
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OG got 4.4, why cant G2 get L?
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Hi all
who can know that when G2 eat android 4.4 kitkat
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considering it came with 4.2.2, they will likely jump to 4.3 before 4.4 and that might be a couple/few months
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Hi all
who can know that when G2 eat android 4.4 kitkat
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I heard about this lady with a crystal ball who can see into the future, google "crazy future seeing lady" and you can ask her if she can look into it.
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considering it came with 4.2.2, they will likely jump to 4.3 before 4.4 and that might be a couple/few months
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I dont know if LG is going to release 4.3. I think LG is just going to wait until 4.4 before providing an update. I just dont trust LG yet to provide multiple software updates because they havent built that reputation.
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lol well if someone can see into the future to answer this... forget 4.4 and go right for 5.0 Android Lemon-aid... or lolly-pop?
My amazement is the fact that you are asking to speculate on a release date for our phone, when the Version hasn't even launched yet. That's like asking the exact release date of a phone that hasn't been announced yet
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I dont know if LG is going to release 4.3. I think LG is just going to wait until 4.4 before providing an update. I just dont trust LG yet to provide multiple software updates because they havent built that reputation.
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I'd think that would be the smart choice for them, especially considering that the g2 is the basis for the nexus 5. I'd imagine they're developing both in parallel.
Not sure if there's any validity to this but here goes... translate away:
http://planetared.com/2013/10/lg-op...d&utm_campaign=Feed:+PlanetaRed+(Planeta+Red)
I'm skeptical
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Maybe October of 2014
Not on vzw.
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Not on vzw.
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VZW for sure will be the last to get it, but on the bright side, maybe the DEV's will be able what to tell what it does to those of us that are rooted.
It seems to me that LG is very eager to ensure the success of their G2 flagship phone, especially given the fact that Samsung and HTC are now a bit behind with the hardware. LG will probably provide the KitKat in order to send a message that they can also provide timely updates, which is one of the reasons that's keeping the enthusiasts adopting their phone (and the enthusiasts are powerful marketing vectors). It would be great to have the KitKat for the G2 in the same day the Nexus 5 is lauched, it would be a very powerful marketing message from LG.
Having used the Optimus 2X for a while, I find this extremely hard to believe. The Nexus 5 reportedly has lower specs than the G2. If the G2 gets 4.4 on the same day as the Nexus 5 is out, it'd seriously hurt the sales of the N5 for Google. But of course, if this is true, it'd be incredible.
How about 4.3 now? Let alone promising 4.4 when it is not even released yet.
-LG G2
Korean models will be for sure the 1st to get it,good to have one lol
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How about 4.3 now? Let alone promising 4.4 when it is not even released yet.
-LG G2
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Why waste time on 4.3 when they are working out the kinks on 4.2 and then do a direct jump to 4.4? Personally I hope they arent wasting anything on 4.3.
Agreed 4.3 is anyway just a hogwash, i would rather take 4.4 directly(if it brings anything good to table). 4.2.2 was the last major update for me, and anyway performance has been top notch of 4.2.2.
So iron out the kinks in 4.2.2 then upgrade directly to 4.4 and then concentrate on your next flagship.
According to recent leaks, the Nexus 5 will be almost identical (hardware wise) to the international G2! LG is making the Nexus 5 so they have access to the Android 4.4 Code for sure. They may have struck some deal with Google and be able to bring 4.4 to the G2 sooner than we think!
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According to recent leaks, the Nexus 5 will be almost identical (hardware wise) to the international G2! LG is making the Nexus 5 so they have access to the Android 4.4 Code for sure. They may have struck some deal with Google and be able to bring 4.4 to the G2 sooner than we think!
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Ya seeing how cheap they sell LG hardware, this is the least they can do
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Ya seeing how cheap they sell LG hardware, this is the least they can do
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Good.
But as usual they will fail to update :sly:
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OrionBG said:
According to recent leaks, the Nexus 5 will be almost identical (hardware wise) to the international G2! LG is making the Nexus 5 so they have access to the Android 4.4 Code for sure. They may have struck some deal with Google and be able to bring 4.4 to the G2 sooner than we think!
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So:
- Different display
- Different camera
- Different battery
- Probably no FM radio
- Different circuit board (given the different button placement)
What more should be different in order to qualify the Nexus 5 as "different" from the G2 (given the fact that the CPU is a common CPU which will be used by all manufacturers in their phones) ?
instigator008 said:
Not sure if there's any validity to this but here goes... translate away:
http://planetared.com/2013/10/lg-op...d&utm_campaign=Feed:+PlanetaRed+(Planeta+Red)
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little more info with some photos
http://thedroidguy.com/2013/10/lg-s...d-4-4-kitkat-update-headed-optimus-g-october/
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LG only posted optimus g but i dont see why they wouldnt update the g2 ....
bodom_hc said:
little more info with some photos
http://thedroidguy.com/2013/10/lg-s...d-4-4-kitkat-update-headed-optimus-g-october/
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LG only posted optimus g but i dont see why they wouldnt update the g2 ....
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Good read thanks pal.
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Taking LG history of not updating there phones add to that the carriers lack of timelynes plus the N5 is set to drop soon i highly doubt we will see 4.4 till at least Q2
Wait, it's from a PRIVATE Facebook chat? There was once LG posted that the next major update was coming to the Optimus 2X the following month. And it never did. So no, my hopes aren't high.
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4.2.2 is running fine atm. No need to rush to 4.4.
As said before, I think Nexus 5 will have 4.4 alone for few months, after that LG will follow.
Since there's been a lot of threads being created recently to discuss Android 4.4 (KitKat) so this one was created to consolidate the discussion in order to keep the forum clean. Follow the rules below or soupmagnet will crack the whip!
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Anyone have info about cm 11?
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That GottaBeMobile article is old news. Why rehash it? The fact is that Android 4.4 update probably won't come until Early 2014 to the US carriers.
The fact is cm11 will be here soon
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The fact is that you two don't know the facts.
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The fact is that you two don't know the facts.
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The fact is I'm looking for a few Canadian testers who can pull a logcat for Houston and help troubleshoot Paranoid Android 4.0. Having trouble getting it to boot but need logs to fix... PM if interested and I'll give you the download link and specifics if you are willing to help test.
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The fact is I'm looking for a few Canadian testers who can pull a logcat for Houston and help troubleshoot Paranoid Android 4.0. Having trouble getting it to boot but need logs to fix... PM if interested and I'll give you the download link and specifics if you are willing to help test.
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I can help if you are looking for a Verizon tester.
Its coming just be patient! The wait will be worth it.
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I don't really care too much about 4.4 as much as I really want LG to fix the bugs.
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What I only want from LG is to fix LG support tool upgrade recovery function:good:...
cool, any chance KitKat will be even more battery friendly?
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Still seems like all other phones getting 4.4 apart from this one
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Still seems like all other phones getting 4.4 apart from this one
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i think someone already testing aosp
blair287 said:
Still seems like all other phones getting 4.4 apart from this one
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Relax dude. Until samsung or htc comes out with a stock 4.4 rom, LG would not be considered behind. I am confident that LG is working on a 4.4 rom and skipped 4.3 completely.
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LG G2 Korea version will launch 4.4
From China website "bbs.gfan.com" thread said 4.4 is being in private test (F320L17F_00.kdz) for Korea version F320L so high likely will get stock rom 4.4 update (F320L20X_00.kdz).
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地板 杜邺772631616 昨天 22:00
晕死了。G2出4.4是肯定的，并且今天就会发正式4.4.目前已经开始内测了，现在是17，然后是18、19，到20的时候就发布正式版。目前的17F就是4.4
"bbs.gfan.com/android-6909308-1-1.html?mobile=yes"
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cool, any chance KitKat will be even more battery friendly?
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I believe I read somewhere it gets a pretty noticeable battery increase. It requires a lot less from hardware
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I hope that LG in their Android 4.4 KitKat update for LG G2 includes the multiwindow feature similar to Samsungs as shown in this Youtube video below. Watch the 0:50 - 1:20 mark. It looks like this LG multiwindow feature will be headed to the LG G Flex.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qafLYygD_o
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I hope that LG in their Android 4.4 KitKat update for LG G2 includes the multiwindow feature similar to Samsungs as shown in this Youtube video below. Watch the 0:50 - 1:20 mark. It looks like this LG multiwindow feature will be headed to the LG G Flex.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qafLYygD_o
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That looks amazing!. Normally I don't care much about all those fancy features, but this one I can really see myself using it. If it will work with all apps, and not just with some apps chosen by LG, as it is with the current floating window feature.
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That GottaBeMobile article is old news. Why rehash it? The fact is that Android 4.4 update probably won't come until Early 2014 to the US carriers.
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I don't think that you even read the article, it was published on 14 Nov and discussed the claims of French carrier SFR that the LG G2 Android 4.4 KitKat update would roll out in either November or December of this year. The author concluded that LG G2 users will be waiting until next year for an Android 4.4 KitKat update.
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Hey guys,
1st off this an apology to the Galaxy Note 3 users, if you check this thread I am sorry. I didn't realize the phone would be so expensive even with the upgrade fee so luckily I was able to get this kickass device for $50, a hell of a deal considering it retails for $700. So I hope the LG G2 welcomes Team Baked and I to this device. My team leader (travp624) and I have the same phone but different carriers now. So I should be maintaining the Sprint LG G2 while he maintains the Verizon LG G2. I am in the process of building a test version of the rom, this rom is still not 100% complete but I would like to see what needs to be done with the Sprint version. Trav told me earlier today that he has no issues with SMS or Phone while using LTE on the Verizon version so fingers crossed. We probably won't release it until he says it is 100 proof and then I can only use his official build but I might run test builds ahead of time to see what features/bug fixes can be added and fixed. We took a break for a while on this rom as many of the members of the team became overloaded with time they had. So now we are slowly but surely getting this rom and team members back together. Please be patient and don't ask me to leak you a copy, you wouldn't want it until the official version anyway. The website of our team and rom and be found at http://www.bakedrom.com and I used to be a device maintainer for the Nexus S 4G.
Welcome welcome to G2, I had note 3 and I never regret switching to the G2.
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Scorbion said:
Welcome welcome to G2, I had note 3 and I never regret switching to the G2.
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Thank you very much, hopefully having this rom in the future will make you never second guess it
It would be great if you could support the international version as well ☺
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It would be great if you could support the international version as well ☺
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That's an idea, I know it is a lot of work doing this type of stuff for developers/maintainers/etc. Eventually I will talk to trav about it when he isn't so overwhelmed to see if we can find a device maintainer for the international version in the near future.
@ebs512 what's up man glad to see you here and to see baked making a return, loved that rom on my galaxy nexus.
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@ebs512 what's up man glad to see you here and to see baked making a return, loved that rom on my galaxy nexus.
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Hey Krazie! Appreciate it man! I ended up returning that Evo 4g. It was just problematic with LCD black line issues even after a screen replacement so I was due for an upgrade since Sprint lets you upgrade early and I picked up this nice device earlier. After I get settled it, I should be able to start making some more theme templates and themes. Is this device XHDPI do you know?
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Hey Krazie! Appreciate it man! I ended up returning that Evo 4g. It was just problematic with LCD black line issues even after a screen replacement so I was due for an upgrade since Sprint lets you upgrade early and I picked up this nice device earlier. After I get settled it, I should be able to start making some more theme templates and themes. Is this device XHDPI do you know?
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XXHDPI
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I've never tried any of your roms (due to them not being available for my particular devices) but it's always good to see a reputable dev support a truly amazing device. Welcome to the G2 and I look forward to seeing your work. Btw screen resolution is 1080x1848 & 422x424 DPI....XXHDPI?
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Krazie1 beat me to it
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I loved your ROM can't wait thanks bossmab
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sounds great
great!! i cant wait for it
Nice, my d802 is ready x)
Welcome TEAM BAKED its about time that CDMA rules beast of this device and has gsm waiting on it ,,,, still remember my first blackICE rom
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This is great. I LOVED Baked ROMs on my Verizon GNexus. Can I assume that like your past builds, we'll eventually see an inverted UI and gapps?
Never used BB, but your guys's inverted apps are what made me want to use my galaxy nexus =D Cant wait to see some =D
Oh yes
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Oh yes
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Trav has 90% done and as far as i Know MMS hasn't been touched Gapps should come released when the rom does. I'm having an issue curling the repo think I'm getting HTML in my repo file and any dev that knows an alternative curling link that I could use please contact me ASAP. I had issues with building on linux mint 16 to i just reverted back to linux mint 14.
Had a note 3 aa well. The G2 is such a better device in so many ways
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Glad to see your team. I used your rom on my gnex. Hope you will support international version as previously mentioned. Thanks for considering.
Awesome. I've sampled your roms on a few of my devices and glad to see you guys here in the G2 forums.
The G2 the phone to have ATM. Last I checked there was no development on the Note 3 because of it being locked down.
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Ahh there's some. Just checked. Minimal though. Nothing like the G2 Dev.
After watching thousands of videos about android L I'm really thinking about changing my G2 for Nexus 5. Maybe because I had nexus 4 and maybe because of so many developers, I dont know. Anyone else ?
I don't care about android L and for me G2 is still better choice
No thanks. We'll have Android L soon anyway either through the upcoming port OCEANDEV and Co is working on or through CM
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No thanks. We'll have Android L soon anyway either through the upcoming port OCEANDEV and Co is working on or through CM
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I did switch, returning my N5 tomorrow, its not worth the battery sacrifice. That and L is way, way to buggy. While i was using the N5 i went back to 4.4.4, L is that unusable as it is now.
Got N5 here dual booting L
anyone in the uk/london area wants to swap?
edit.. phrase went badly wrong lol
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Got N5 here dual booting L
anyone in the uk/london area wants to swap, I'll have your right arm off
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Hmm well that'd be an argument from the other side. Thanks for your input. I, for one, love my g2. N5 is lame sauce!
We are gonna get L soon anyway, why sacrifice amazing 4k camera and massive battery just to get android a month or two earlier than the rest of people on xda, and those people who actually wait for carrier updates. They would probably get L 6 months later, if they ever do get it. (Not counting HTC)
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We are gonna get L soon anyway, why sacrifice amazing 4k camera and massive battery just to get android a month or two earlier than the rest of people on xda, and those people who actually wait for carrier updates. They would probably get L 6 months later, if they ever do get it. (Not counting HTC)
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I don't know or it still exists but i also read that LG G2 Official cm11 builds had Lagg because of some outdated thing and those kind of things but it got fixed on unofficial builds right? Also the official bug list god.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Known_Issues_page_for_d802
I hope they will fix the things in cm12 but else the awesome devs here will fix those problems:victory:
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I did switch, returning my N5 tomorrow, its not worth the battery sacrifice. That and L is way, way to buggy. While i was using the N5 i went back to 4.4.4, L is that unusable as it is now.
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What kind of battery life was the N5 getting?
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What kind of battery life was the N5 getting?
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Best case i got was 4hours screen on time on about 17 hours total time. Which is a good 50% less than the g2 on a bad day.
Not saying this is what everyone will get, but for me that is the case.
Yeah I know, G2 has amazing camera and battery but on the other hand, my previous phone was nexus 4 with LOT of development and I'm kinda used to have all the latest builds
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No, that would be silly.
nope
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To have it earlier? No way.. thats not even a valid reason to switch the better G2 for an N5 (the N5 is great too, no doubt, but the G2 has better battery and camera - for me).
We'll have Android L sooner or later too, so.. just patience and its fine
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Yeah I know, G2 has amazing camera and battery but on the other hand, my previous phone was nexus 4 with LOT of development and I'm kinda used to have all the latest builds
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Mine previous phone was also the N4 but the reason i quitted was that there were too many roms like on the N5 which all are just looking AOSP so no thanks. You can go to the N5 if you really want much development but the g2 also got already much development. Else when we figured out the black vertical lines issue and when i will receive my G2 then i will try to make a Port guide how to port the roms just like Porting nexus 4 roms to optimus g:laugh:
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Mine previous phone was also the N4 but the reason i quitted was that there were too many roms like on the N5 which all are just looking AOSP so no thanks. You can go to the N5 if you really want much development but the g2 also got already much development. Else when we figured out the black vertical lines issue and when i will receive my G2 then i will try to make a Port guide how to port the roms just like Porting nexus 4 roms to optimus g:laugh:
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That would be awesome man, also more kernels, I would like to see franco or bricked or many other kernels for G2
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I think I'll be satisfied with Mahdi for quite a while now...
Plus, the "selfie button" is still a favorite joke
Having swapped from an N5 originally I can safely say that no software would make me switch back to that piece of junk.
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Having swapped from an N5 originally I can safely say that no software would make me switch back to that piece of junk.
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Man, thanks for this reply
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sicto said:
Yeah I know, G2 has amazing camera and battery but on the other hand, my previous phone was nexus 4 with LOT of development and I'm kinda used to have all the latest builds
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My previous phone was a bag phone.