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Hey everyone - my first post here.
Anyway, I read and read and read about my new Vibrant to see just what I could do with it without screwing it up and bricking it and I find out my device is hardware locked.
After reading [GUIDE] / [THINK TANK] - Accessing downloader & recovery w/ locked hardware access (I cannot post a link just now, apparently) from start to finish, I am more confused than not. I cannot do anything but stay in a boot loop (by holding buttons down) or boot up the phone like normal. No recovery or download mode has so far been possible.
So, can I root my phone? Should I just attempt to exchange it? Should I wait for a work-around? Or is there information I'm missing somewhere?
Thanks, all. This community is insanely helpful and cordial, without you guys I'd never have gotten my dream working properly.
Edit: I was told that my lack of drivers were the problem - I thought I didn't need them on a 32 bit system. I did. Recovery reboot solved for me!
If you cannot enter Recovery Mode with Vol Up+Vol Down+Power, your phone is defective and T-Mo will exchange it.
You're serious? It really is that simple?
So, I call them up, tell them I have a hardware locked phone and I cannot boot into recovery mode, and they'll set me up?
I'm thinking I had to go learn odin and start getting less a'scared of command lines.
FenixGryph said:
Hey everyone - my first post here.
Anyway, I read and read and read about my new Vibrant to see just what I could do with it without screwing it up and bricking it and I find out my device is hardware locked.
After reading [GUIDE] / [THINK TANK] - Accessing downloader & recovery w/ locked hardware access (I cannot post a link just now, apparently) from start to finish, I am more confused than not. I cannot do anything but stay in a boot loop (by holding buttons down) or boot up the phone like normal. No recovery or download mode has so far been possible.
So, can I root my phone? Should I just attempt to exchange it? Should I wait for a work-around? Or is there information I'm missing somewhere?
Thanks, all. This community is insanely helpful and cordial, without you guys I'd never have gotten my dream working properly.
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Here's my advice in a step-by-step:
-Install the AndroidSDK (And make sure it is named that) Found here - http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
-Move the folder to Computer> Local Disk ( C: )
-Run the .exe
-Go to Settings, click on Miscellaneous, and check Force https
-Click on Available Packages and install (And then minimize)
-Click Start and search cmd (Also known as Command Prompt)
-Type cd\ (And then press enter)
-Type AndroidSDK\Tools\adb reboot download (And then press enter)
**Make sure your phone is plugged into the computer with USB Debugging turned on.
Your phone will reboot and be in Download Mode. Hope this helps.
Hardware Locked, huh? really? on the vibrant?
Can someone explain what hardware locked vibrant is. Is this some term you guys made up. I can not for the life of me, figure out, why in the world Samsung would ship some phones hardware locked and others not.
Makes no sense, someone explain, seems like this is a made up term which does not apply to Vibrant.
Either Samsung is being completely ignorant to this issue or they have the worst quality control. I am beginning to think it's both. Simply google searching brings up lots of results on this issue.
My first Vibrant (USB port eventually broke) 3 button recovery worked fine; dated July 15. The replacement after that did not work, nor did the one after that. Those were both made on Aug 16. I finally got a refund under buyer's remorse and waited another week. Got my fourth Vibrant today, made 09/01 and yes it does work with 3 button recovery.
Keep in mind none of my Vibrants were refurbished units. They were all brand new. I think Samsung has a serious flaw on their hands. I'm concerned about keeping this phone even but I added the insurance on it just in case.
By "hardware locked" they mean that you cannot access the phone's recovery or dl mode using the 3 button method.
this has apparently started with the 08/**/2010 batches. beforehand this phone was deemed "unbrickable" but it's now actually possible with the newer shipments so ppl have got to be a lot careful trying to mod their phones now.
on a side note: i've read that Samsung Mobile Canada has admitted that the hardware locked phones are in actuality a defect. hopefully Samsung Mobile USA will come to the same conclusion.
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Either Samsung is being completely ignorant to this issue or they have the worst quality control. I am beginning to think it's both. Simply google searching brings up lots of results on this issue.
My first Vibrant (USB port eventually broke) 3 button recovery worked fine; dated July 15. The replacement after that did not work, nor did the one after that. Those were both made on Aug 16. I finally got a refund under buyer's remorse and waited another week. Got my fourth Vibrant today, made 09/01 and yes it does work with 3 button recovery.
Keep in mind none of my Vibrants were refurbished units. They were all brand new. I think Samsung has a serious flaw on their hands. I'm concerned about keeping this phone even but I added the insurance on it just in case.
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I think that's the first phone dated after 08/** that i've heard of actually having the 3 btn modes work. My bf has a vibrant and I've been holding off purchasing one myself since hearing about the hardware locked ones. i've been literally scouring ebay for a phone that was a part of the July batch.
well, this gives me a little hope.
Oniyuri said:
By "hardware locked" they mean that you cannot access the phone's recovery or dl mode using the 3 button method.
this has apparently started with the 08/**/2010 batches. beforehand this phone was deemed "unbrickable" but it's now actually possible with the newer shipments so ppl have got to be a lot careful trying to mod their phones now.
on a side note: i've read that Samsung Mobile Canada has admitted that the hardware locked phones are in actuality a defect. hopefully Samsung Mobile USA will come to the same conclusion.
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Well just my 2 cents on the topic, entering recovery mode required following strict steps, miss 1 single step, and you won't get into recovery.
now as far as download mode goes, I have been able to get into it once. This was by accident, I was randomly doing various sequences of volume rocker and power, it went into download mode. Now since then, I have no clue what sequence I used, but I have never been able to get into download mode ever again.
Additionally, my phone is dated 7/2010, so the 8/2010 batch theory doesn't hold since I can not get into download mode either now.
To get into Recovery Mode, follow these steps.
Okay, I'm reading lots of people having trouble getting into recovery mode, thinking their phone is broken or busted. Chances are you are not holding down the power button log enough, or you are letting go of something too quick.
FOLLOW THESE DIRECTIONS STEP BY STEP.
1) START with your phone off
2) Press volume up AND volume down at same time, keep them pressed in the entire time, do NOT let go. I prefer to hold my phone in landscape, this gives me better control with my fingers.
3) WHILE holding down volume up and volume down, press and hold power button, DO NOT LET GO OF ANYTHING. You should be holding down volume up, volume down, and power, DON'T LET GO! HOLD ON... and proceed to next steps, dont let go!
4) PHONE will start, you will see the white Vibrant logo. STILL DON'T LET GO, volume down, volume up, and power all pressed.
5) White Vibrant logo disappears, still dont let go!
6) White Vibrant logo re-appears again for the second time. Right when you see the white vibrant logo pop up a second time, let go of ONLY the power button, keep holding down volume down and volume up.
7) Phone enters recovery mode, you can let go the volume rocker.
hope this helps, it worked for me, hopefully it works for you also.
now can someone post sure fire method into getting into download without needing to connect the phone to your computer and using odin?
Oniyuri said:
I think that's the first phone dated after 08/** that i've heard of actually having the 3 btn modes work. My bf has a vibrant and I've been holding off purchasing one myself since hearing about the hardware locked ones. i've been literally scouring ebay for a phone that was a part of the July batch.
well, this gives me a little hope.
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Hate to break it to you, my phone is made in July, and it WILL NOT go into download mode, I do however get into recovery mode.
That phone date batch theory doesn't hold true, so you can stop searching for july phones.
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on a side note: i've read that Samsung Mobile Canada has admitted that the hardware locked phones are in actuality a defect. hopefully Samsung Mobile USA will come to the same conclusion.[/QUOTE]
where did you read this, please provide the link
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Samsung Mobile USA support is worthless. I called three times and finally got someone in "premier support" who didn't know anything. He actually went as far as to tell me a simple data wipe would resolve this problem, ha! I then got a hold of someone at Samsung Telecom corporate office who said he'd look into it and never called me back. No surprise there either. I think it's kind of sad that people are having to resort to Facebook wall comments to get a company to start backing it's products.
Thanks to sabooher, I was able to get into download mode with no problems, I hope this works for you, and thank you again sabooher.
okay, start off with your phone turned off
hold down both volume down and volume up at the same time, do not touch the power button
now, get your usb cable, have one end into your computer, the other end put into your vibrant, while you are still holding down the volume up and volume down at same time. dont touch power button
your phone hopefully will now go into download mode!
SamsungVibrant said:
FOLLOW THESE DIRECTIONS STEP BY STEP.
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Nope, no good.
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Here's my advice in a step-by-step:
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Had the sdk already, so that was no problem. With usb debugging on, I had the same problem I've always had with adb - error: device not found.
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Oniyuri said:
on a side note: i've read that Samsung Mobile Canada has admitted that the hardware locked phones are in actuality a defect. hopefully Samsung Mobile USA will come to the same conclusion.
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where did you read this, please provide the link
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Sure, it's all over their facebook page. I've read tons of android sites so I can't quote the site that led me to this page but I've been following the Samsung Mobile Canada FB page over the last few days about it. Suffice it to say: the Bell customers are really not pleased with the 3 btn issue: Samsung Mobile Canada
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Nope, no good.
Had the sdk already, so that was no problem. With usb debugging on, I had the same problem I've always had with adb - error: device not found.
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maybe you don't have the correct drivers installed, try the ones from this thread --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728929
Well here's my take on things. I got my phone (July 11th build date) directly from T-Mobile corporate. Came via FEDEX on launch day. Long story, suffice to say I had Behold II and complained to the right people at the right time and got swapped a Vibrant to basically shut me up.
Entering download mode seems to be very timing specific even for this original batch phone. There is only one way I can reliably get download mode 100% of the time...
- Pull battery
- plug in to USB cable connected to PC
- hold down VOL DOWN + VOL UP (DO NOT HOLD DOWN POWER)
- Insert battery
Alternately I can get into download mode using VOL DOWN+ VOL UP + POWER, but I have to be very careful to catch the right moment after the Vibrant logo appears the 2nd time to release power to get download mode.
When I ODIN, I use the first method always now.
masterotaku said:
Entering download mode seems to be very timing specific even for this original batch phone. There is only one way I can reliably get download mode 100% of the time...
- Pull battery
- plug in to USB cable connected to PC
- hold down VOL DOWN + VOL UP (DO NOT HOLD DOWN POWER)
- Insert battery
Alternately I can get into download mode using VOL DOWN+ VOL UP + POWER, but I have to be very careful to catch the right moment after the Vibrant logo appears the 2nd time to release power to get download mode.
When I ODIN, I use the first method always now.
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That's odd. I've never had a problem getting into download mode; in fact, I was confused the first time it happened cuz I didn't mean to! All I have to do is make sure the USB cable is plugged in and then hold all 3 buttons when I turn it on and into download mode it goes.
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That's odd. I've never had a problem getting into download mode; in fact, I was confused the first time it happened cuz I didn't mean to! All I have to do is make sure the USB cable is plugged in and then hold all 3 buttons when I turn it on and into download mode it goes.
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I tend to have bad luck with Odin too. I've seen the "ohsh*t" icon many times...
(note: the "ohsh*t" icon is what I call the phone/caution symbol/pc icon I tend to see quite often)
When that happens the ONLY way I can get back to download mode is the battery-insert method.
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Nope, no good.
Had the sdk already, so that was no problem. With usb debugging on, I had the same problem I've always had with adb - error: device not found.
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It definitely sounds like you don't have the correct drivers installed. My drivers were downloaded through the installation of Kies, however, is your computer online while you are attempting this? I can only speak for my computer which is running Windows 7, but it automatically downloads any updated/new drivers necessary when connected online.
woot!
Ha ha!! The drivers were the problem. I was under the impression I only had to install the samsung drivers if I was on a 64 bit system.
I'm looking at my recovery menu now and am very happy! Wish I had time to do the stuff I wanted to do the vibrant before work, but I gotta make a couple of bucks before I get this guy set up just how I want.
See? I knew XDA was the place to be. Many thanks Oniyuri and jonathan3579!
installed the newest whisky rom this morning, all was well, did a reboot and now phone just goes to a screen with the phone to pc icon and nothing else. i cannot access adb or odin! please help. vibrant bricked!
Here is a couple of methods to get into download mode. Once you get to download mode, follow the directions in my next post...
First Method
1) Pull the battery, sim card, and sd card.
2) Reinsert battery but do not press any buttons.
3) Plug into usb that is connected to your computer. If something shows up on the screen (charging logo) then you should be golden.
4) Hold the vol up, vol down, and power until the screen comes on, immediately release the power button but not the other two. Hopefully it will boot into download mode and than you can use Odin to get back to stock.
Second Method
1) Another method that seems to work for some people is to pull the battery, sim, sd card.
2) Reinsert battery and hold both volume buttons but do not press power button.
3) Then plug in usb. The phone should boot into download.
Third Method
1) You will need the samsung ADB drivers installed for your phone and ADB.
Samsung Drivers for 32 bit Windows: http://files.androidspin.com/downlo...=SAMSUNG_USB_Driver_for_Mobile_Phones_x86.exe
Samsung Drivers for 64 bit Windows: http://files.androidspin.com/downlo...ung/vibrant/&file=usb_drivers_GalaxyS_x64.zip
2) Remove sim card and sd-card. Remove the battery.
3) Hold buttons vol up, vol down, and power.
4) While holding down those 3 buttons put the battery back in and keep holding all 3 buttons until the vibrant disappears and reappears. Once it reappears, release all 3 buttons.
5) Now connect your phone to your pc via USB cable.
6) Open a cmd prompt and navigate to the folder with ADB and type "ADB REBOOT DOWNLOAD" caps are not necessary.
7) Your phone will reboot into the download screen.
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Download the files in the linked thread and follow the directions there our the ones in my post.
Odin and Files Needed Available Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734475
1) Open Odin and verify that one of the Com ports shows a device connected. If it doesn't try using a different usb port.
2) Load the .pit and pda files. It should be pretty obvious how to do that once you are in Odin.
3) Make sure that the option to partition is unchecked. The other two options should be checked.
4) Hit start and wait.
5) Your phone will restart when Odin is done and you will be good to go.
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Had that few days ago..please try this to access download mode...
I did the following:
1. take out the battery, sim and microSD
2. put battery in
3. ONLY hold vol down & power
4. plug in the USB and voila...download mode!
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none of those options work to get into download mode, even via adb with reboot download it still shows a screen with a cell phone, a orange triangle and a pc as soon as it gets power.
ielati said:
none of those options work to get into download mode, even via adb with reboot download it still shows a screen with a cell phone, a orange triangle and a pc as soon as it gets power.
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Is your phone hardware locked?
no, not hardware locked. im niot sure what the screen means. its a cell phone then a orange triangle with exclamation point, then a pc. but it goes to that as soon as the power is turned on
Hold down both volume buttons and the power button. Wait until the screen turns black and release the power button. Welcome to download mode.
Edit: do all of this with the battery in, the phone connected to the computer, and Odin open. Once it goes into download mode, Odin should immediately recognize it.
Email me [email protected]
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mail it to me, i bet i can get it in download mode, it just takes patients and alot of tries, dont give up so easy.
i have a new vibrant on the way from t-mob. went to the store and they gave me a nokia E73. i dont like it at all all the buttons and no touch screen. feels like 1998
ielati said:
i have a new vibrant on the way from t-mob. went to the store and they gave me a nokia E73. i dont like it at all all the buttons and no touch screen. feels like 1998
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So what you're saying is...you commited fraud. You are causing my costs on phones to go up. You knew the risks of flashing ROMs on your phone and when you screwed up instead of taking responsibility you give the bill to all the other T-mobile customers...
THANKS!!!
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how is that fraud? i explained to the rep what happened and they offered a replacement. i dont see how that caused your cost to go up... thanks for your response tho...
Ignore him, dude has no idea what he is talking about.
I had the same problem though, don't worry.
What will happen is they will force the phone into download mode, using the same method the jig thing does, wipe the phone, and flash the default rom to it. From there, they will resell it depending on the physical condition of the phone. Of course if it suffered water damage a steep fee will need to be paid. If they find out you voided the warranty, hope you have the insurance package or again, a steep fee.
ielati said:
how is that fraud? i explained to the rep what happened and they offered a replacement. i dont see how that caused your cost to go up... thanks for your response tho...
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You explained that you voided the warranty by flashing an aftermarket ROM and when you screwed it up you called them because you want it replaced and they said no problem? Do you really expect me to believe that you told the rep the full truth?
The costs go up because they factor in the costs of replacement phones due to manufacturing defects. When people screw up their own phone and then get it replaced, the costs in the future go up.
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That's what insurance is for, stolen, lost, broken, BRICKED, just pay your deductible... and bam.I wish t-mobile had vanishing deductible
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hockeyrcks9901 said:
The costs go up because they factor in the costs of replacement phones due to manufacturing defects. When people screw up their own phone and then get it replaced, the costs in the future go up.
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This wasn't a defect. He just screwed something up. They'll flash stock rom on it and then bam, resell it. Why do you think they asked for it back, just to throw it against the wall?
exactly, they will load a rom onto it and resell it, nothing wrong with the phone just software. either way ive got insurance on it and they accepted it . thanks for the input tho!
Thanks a ton!!! I've been up til 4am last night trying to fix my friend's Vibrant do to boot loop and had no way of accessing internal memory. Even CWM wouldn't do wipe data/factory reset....
He used Root Tools to change font and crashed it and I've tried method after method (ODIN, adb etc...) but was stuck! Finally I got the phone to pc icon and tried THIS method and what do you know...restored to stock under 3 minutes.
Much appreciated
BioShadow said:
This wasn't a defect. He just screwed something up. They'll flash stock rom on it and then bam, resell it. Why do you think they asked for it back, just to throw it against the wall?
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+1 to that
Ur on a phone hacking community site complaining about wht hundreds of people do on this site all the time. We flash roms and sometimes we make mistakes I admit some people shouldnt flash roms but we pay our insurance for a reason. I hope u werent serious or ur just a really good troll!
Anyway to fix my brick? I used Odin to restore my phone back to stock, and then used kies to update it back to the latest (none rooted) build, after said it was done and needs to restart but my phone was black screen and now wont turn on. No matter how long it charge/hold down any combination of buttons / anything it does no turn on not even light up black its like if it is completely dead, can anyone tell me how this could have happened everything updated fine.
I don't know how it could have happened, we take your word for it. I know you said you tried different button combinations, but have you tried to get into download mode? If that doesn't work, try using a jig to induce the phone into download mode. If that doesn't work, you can probably have it jtagged. Or buy a nexus s )
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Yes I can't get no response not even download mode, ok how do I jig and jtag? any guid so n how to do it, i'll try anything before having to run to tMobile and saying an update broke it lol
It sounds like you destroyed the bootloader. I was in the same situation when I flashed the GB bootloader by checking the reboot checkbox. To get back, I removed the battery, hold vol up + vol down + power, launched odin, plug usb, and slide the battery in.
tanner2007 said:
Anyway to fix my brick? I used Odin to restore my phone back to stock, and then used kies to update it back to the latest (none rooted) build, after said it was done and needs to restart but my phone was black screen and now wont turn on. No matter how long it charge/hold down any combination of buttons / anything it does no turn on not even light up black its like if it is completely dead, can anyone tell me how this could have happened everything updated fine.
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Tried it, and just tried it again, no luck, no response, im almost certain its hardbrick, and I am willing it jtag it if I can =/
Try the following steps:
1. Removed the battery
2. Plug the usb to you pc and phone
3. Hold vol up + vol down + power
4. Slide the battery in
tanner2007 said:
Tried it, and just tried it again, no luck, no response, im almost certain its hardbrick, and I am willing it jtag it if I can =/
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VibrantThemer said:
Try the following steps:
1. Removed the battery
2. Plug the usb to you pc and phone
3. Hold vol up + vol down + power
4. Slide the battery in
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I did that, many times....
Watch this video --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqxearzXrVY
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I did that, many times....
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I kno sir, Iv been in that mode many, many, many times, this time nothing on my phone works...its dead
How old is the phone? Could it still be under one year warranty from Tmobile? If it is still within one year call up and tell them you tried to update with Kies and it screwed your phone.
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archie53 said:
How old is the phone? Could it still be under one year warranty from Tmobile? If it is still within one year call up and tell them you tried to update with Kies and it screwed your phone.
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It is, small problem, small crack on lower left part of screen, almsot not noticable but with that idk if im have to pay some huge amount of money with I don't have and if i have to id rather by a new phone..
I was in the same situation. Any of the methods mentioned before don't worked for me because you have a hard brick.. your only option is a RIFF Box JTAG.
I send my phone to this ebay seller and he repair my phone the same day and the same day he ship me back my phone.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Samsung-Galaxy-...ultDomain_0&hash=item3f0c87e20b#ht_719wt_1344
If the item expired on ebay you can find the seller items in here:
http://shop.ebay.com/olegor215/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562
or search for the sellers name ( olegor215 )
Sorry for my bad english
I have searched all over the internet and have not found a problem exactly like the one i am having. My Atrix 4g will not boot. It will get to the Dual Core screen, but no farther than that. I can get to the menu by holding down the volume but and power button but when i select a menu option it does nothing. My phone was not rooted, it is factory with the lastest version on it. THe other day i pulled the phone out of my pocket at it was turned off. I wouldn't turn i so i plugged it in and that is when the problems started. Any help would be great! Thank you!
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I have searched all over the internet and have not found a problem exactly like the one i am having. My Atrix 4g will not boot. It will get to the Dual Core screen, but no farther than that. I can get to the menu by holding down the volume but and power button but when i select a menu option it does nothing. My phone was not rooted, it is factory with the lastest version on it. THe other day i pulled the phone out of my pocket at it was turned off. I wouldn't turn i so i plugged it in and that is when the problems started. Any help would be great! Thank you!
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I wanted to add that when i connect plug usb cable into it from the laptop, the laptop does not detect the phone.
devildogfarm said:
I have searched all over the internet and have not found a problem exactly like the one i am having. My Atrix 4g will not boot. It will get to the Dual Core screen, but no farther than that. I can get to the menu by holding down the volume but and power button but when i select a menu option it does nothing. My phone was not rooted, it is factory with the lastest version on it. THe other day i pulled the phone out of my pocket at it was turned off. I wouldn't turn i so i plugged it in and that is when the problems started. Any help would be great! Thank you!
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You might need to restore it to factory setting with an external method 'cause your phone wasn't rooted or unlocked. Search for the RSDlite method to flash the original rom. You will need to download a specfic sbf depending on the operator of your phone, but there's actually a post in the forum where they hold every sbf
joelorona said:
there's actually a post in the forum where they hold every sbf
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No there isn't. SBFs have been taken down because they're too dangerous and using them often results in bricking the device. You'll probably have to look for SBFs elsewhere.
Is there any way to save the data on my phone?
Doubt you can save data unless you can get it recognized through adb. Have you tried the other boot modes other than fastboot and rsd?
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JPBeard21 said:
Doubt you can save data unless you can get it recognized through adb. Have you tried the other boot modes other than fastboot and rsd?
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I have tried the Android Recovery mode but it will not going into that...
I am getting to the point that i am willing to lose the data. I would just like my phone to work again. any help would be great!
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I have tried the Android Recovery mode but it will not going into that...
I am getting to the point that i am willing to lose the data. I would just like my phone to work again. any help would be great!
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I tried recovery mode again and while the phone was plugged in it just said "Entering Android Recovery Mode" i unplegged it and the android guy with the explanation point showed up so i plugged the phone back in real quick (didnt want the battery to die.) With that screen i tried tapping in the lower right hand corner of the screen to access the menu, but nothing would happen from that point.
UPDATE: I was able to press both volume buttons and get into the menu. I was able to select wipe/factory reset buy pushing the power buttong. It is currently rebooting.... has been for several minutes..... Hope this works!!
i tried making a factory cable last night but, it didnt turn out to good..... Is there anyway to charge the battery enough, without the phone, to allow me to flash the device?
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I tried recovery mode again and while the phone was plugged in it just said "Entering Android Recovery Mode" i unplegged it and the android guy with the explanation point showed up so i plugged the phone back in real quick (didnt want the battery to die.) With that screen i tried tapping in the lower right hand corner of the screen to access the menu, but nothing would happen from that point.
UPDATE: I was able to press both volume buttons and get into the menu. I was able to select wipe/factory reset buy pushing the power buttong. It is currently rebooting.... has been for several minutes..... Hope this works!!
i tried making a factory cable last night but, it didnt turn out to good..... Is there anyway to charge the battery enough, without the phone, to allow me to flash the device?
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Would i be better off purchasing a factory cable off of ebay or something, or buying an charger to fully charge my battery and try flashing that way?
Hi there,
I think my z3tc just died.
I flashed the z3c firmware (only system) via flashtools in order to gain root with giefroot.
The tablet started, but the root process failed, and I had to hard reset the tablet (vol-,vol+,on/off), after that the device would not start again.
I tried the yellow reset-knob (beside the sim slot) for 10 secs ... nothing
vol-,vol+,on/off for 10 secs ... nothing
plugged it to the original wall-charger with the original cable ... nothing, not even the led shows up.
Has anybody an idea, or is my device a case for the wastebin?
Thanks in advance!
Hansifranzi said:
Hi there,
I think my z3tc just died.
I flashed the z3c firmware (only system) via flashtools in order to gain root with giefroot.
The tablet started, but the root process failed, and I had to hard reset the tablet (vol-,vol+,on/off), after that the device would not start again.
I tried the yellow reset-knob (beside the sim slot) for 10 secs ... nothing
vol-,vol+,on/off for 10 secs ... nothing
plugged it to the original wall-charger with the original cable ... nothing, not even the led shows up.
Has anybody an idea, or is my device a case for the wastebin?
Thanks in advance!
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You flashed the wrong firmware. You could be hard bricked. Basically if you can't get into flash mode and flash the proper firmware then your screwed.
For future reference quadruple check your firmware before you flash the ftf file.
If your rooting SGP621 then you should have flashed the D6603 .93 firmware because that's the one with the exploit.
Sent from my D6603 using XDA Free mobile app
Thanks for the answer.
I have the SPG611, is it the same firmware to exploit as for the SPG621, namly D6603 .93?
Hansifranzi said:
Thanks for the answer.
I have the SPG611, is it the same firmware to exploit as for the SPG621, namly D6603 .93?
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No the xploit shouldn't work because the system is quite different. SPG621 is the LTE version and I think 611 is the Wi-Fi version. The 621 runs on cellphone hardware very similar to the Xperia Z3 where the 611 has no LTE connectivity. It wouldn't be wise to flash a D6603 firmware on it because the hardware it too different.
Sent from my D6603 using XDA Free mobile app
I just found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-...t-rooting-sgp611-giefroot-bootloader-t3017314
So I think it should also work on the WiFi Version (SPG611).
Dead Z3c Tab
Hansifranzi said:
Hi there,
I think my z3tc just died.
I flashed the z3c firmware (only system) via flashtools in order to gain root with giefroot.
The tablet started, but the root process failed, and I had to hard reset the tablet (vol-,vol+,on/off), after that the device would not start again.
I tried the yellow reset-knob (beside the sim slot) for 10 secs ... nothing
vol-,vol+,on/off for 10 secs ... nothing
plugged it to the original wall-charger with the original cable ... nothing, not even the led shows up.
Has anybody an idea, or is my device a case for the wastebin?
Thanks in advance!
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This is EXACTLY what happened to me. No LEDs going on - nothing. Device 3 weeks old from Amazon Germany. I sent it in for repair, got it back today with a notice that because I had the bootloader unlocked the warranty is void and they didn´t do anything with it. BUT: When I got it back it was alive again, I could get it into fastboot mode. So I called the technician to ask how they had reset the hardware. They said they hadn´t done anything. I remember having read about a guy who had the same problem, when he packed the tablet to send it in after a couple of days he noticed it would turn on again.
So here is what I think: If you flashed the wrong boot.img or whatever and the Z3c Tab goes completely dead (no charging, no LEDs, no nothing) just wait a couple of days. May be some capacitator has to run flat or I don´t know what but just wait.
Pleas let us know if this works for you, might help other people here and I sure wonder if just letting it sit there can help when everything seems to be f*** up
Thanks for sharing your experience. I also read the post from the guy, who wanted to return it and discovered that it turned back to life.
How many days did it take from returning it to amazon to receiving it back?
Did you connect it to the computer with vol-, and the blue led came back?
It has been three days now, but connecting it to the computer or to the wall-charger didn't change a thing.
Took about 3 days to get it back. May be we have to let the battery discharge?
When I got it back (volume down + USB plugin) was working again, when I sent it in didn't do a thing, no LED. Once you have it back to fastboot mode it's really a piece of cake.
Doolittle Duckbill said:
Took about 3 days to get it back. May be we have to let the battery discharge?
When I got it back (volume down + USB plugin) was working again, when I sent it in didn't do a thing, no LED. Once you have it back to fastboot mode it's really a piece of cake.
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I also thought about the battery, I will wait at least for monday, and then report back.
Hansifranzi said:
I also thought about the battery, I will wait at least for monday, and then report back.
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Basically the trick here is to let the battery go dead OR disconnect the battery and reconnect it again but I suppose that would be a hastle.
Also, plugging again and again would charge the device especially if you are trying to discharge the battery fully.
If you are certain that all drivers are fully installed and it does not show any sign at all. I would suggest that hold down power + volume up/down depending on which mode you want to boot. The trick here is KEEP HOLDING POWER AND VOLUME KEY while at the same time plugging in the device to your PC. I am sure the LED would blink or something (I do not have the device but all Sony work this way)
I had a similar incident with a Sony Phone, just like your tablet symptoms but this trick worked for me.
Try that and report back to me, I would like to see what happens and if you need any help, do no hesitate to quote me back!
Good Luck and make sure you flash the RIGHT FTF this time
Hnk1 said:
Basically the trick here is to let the battery go dead OR disconnect the battery and reconnect it again but I suppose that would be a hastle.
Also, plugging again and again would charge the device especially if you are trying to discharge the battery fully.
If you are certain that all drivers are fully installed and it does not show any sign at all. I would suggest that hold down power + volume up/down depending on which mode you want to boot. The trick here is KEEP HOLDING POWER AND VOLUME KEY while at the same time plugging in the device to your PC. I am sure the LED would blink or something (I do not have the device but all Sony work this way)
I had a similar incident with a Sony Phone, just like your tablet symptoms but this trick worked for me.
Try that and report back to me, I would like to see what happens and if you need any help, do no hesitate to quote me back!
Good Luck and make sure you flash the RIGHT FTF this time
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Thanks for the answer!
I just plugged the tablet into the usb-port of my laptop while holding VOL- and POWER, the led showed no signs, same as computer, also no signs. I will try again on Monday, the battery is surely dead until then. Hope dies last.
That guy must have been me Had the exact same story happening with a Galaxy Tab S. Looked like hard bricked, back to Media Markt with it, no, no, we won't lift a finger you evil tinkerer - and then it suddenly worked again. I had realized they must have done something. Because how would the see that my device's software had been tampered with if they didn't turn it on?!
Anyway, I tried that convoluted rooting method on my brand spanking new Z3Tc (is that the official abbrev.?) However, managed to get into flash mode somehow. It's embarassing for somebody like me but I'm on unrooted stock now... after about 20 Android devices, none of which wasn't rooted or an alternative ROM all the way
Good luck on reviving your tablet!
Hansifranzi said:
Thanks for the answer!
I just plugged the tablet into the usb-port of my laptop while holding VOL- and POWER, the led showed no signs, same as computer, also no signs. I will try again on Monday, the battery is surely dead until then. Hope dies last.
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Led or any othehr signs are useless as long as the device is detected. Had it ?
Try power + volume up as well while flashtool running. It'd give you a better idea of detection. Even try power + both volume up and down.
Also plug in to Sony Official tool and see if that can help you repair it ? It might detect it as well.
Hnk1 said:
Led or any othehr signs are useless as long as the device is detected. Had it ?
Try power + volume up as well while flashtool running. It'd give you a better idea of detection. Even try power + both volume up and down.
Also plug in to Sony Official tool and see if that can help you repair it ? It might detect it as well.
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When my Tab was dead none of the above worked, also "lsusb" in linux showed that it was not detected.
Concerning the question of what the technicians at MediaMarkt or support.com might have done: I know they used the "emma" software from the sony developer homepage to read out my z3c Tab. That apparently gave them the readout that the bootloader was unlocked. They sent me the screenshot together with the notice that they did not repair anything. So may be download "emma" for Windoze and hook it up to that... I use Linux with FlashTool which is supposed to be the same software (?). However, when my Tab was dead, FlashTool just said no device connected.
BTW: This is also the first (of many) Android devices that I now use UNROOTED. All others were rooted. It was also DEFINITELY the last-ever Sony device I ever bought. The hardware is nice, I need it waterproof because I use it on my motorbike. But this stupid rooting procedure is so screwed up that I will never ever buy Sony Android again!
I was really up and going for Sony, checking the internet on when the new z4 phone comes out, but my z3c tab user "experience" has now taught me better: Never again Sony!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for all the responses.
Using Windows 8.1 I tried:
USB-Plugging with all combinations of Power, Vol+, Vol- running
PC Companion
Emma
Flashtool
No Reaction at all.
Maybe the battery is still not empty.
Hope dies last.
Doolittle Duckbill said:
When my Tab was dead none of the above worked, also "lsusb" in linux showed that it was not detected.
Concerning the question of what the technicians at MediaMarkt or support.com might have done: I know they used the "emma" software from the sony developer homepage to read out my z3c Tab. That apparently gave them the readout that the bootloader was unlocked. They sent me the screenshot together with the notice that they did not repair anything. So may be download "emma" for Windoze and hook it up to that... I use Linux with FlashTool which is supposed to be the same software (?). However, when my Tab was dead, FlashTool just said no device connected.
BTW: This is also the first (of many) Android devices that I now use UNROOTED. All others were rooted. It was also DEFINITELY the last-ever Sony device I ever bought. The hardware is nice, I need it waterproof because I use it on my motorbike. But this stupid rooting procedure is so screwed up that I will never ever buy Sony Android again!
I was really up and going for Sony, checking the internet on when the new z4 phone comes out, but my z3c tab user "experience" has now taught me better: Never again Sony!!!!!!!!!!!
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I will look into rooting Z3 compact without pre-rooted firmware / flashing any zip via recovery. There are few methods and Lollipop is a bit hard to crack but we would find it out soon enough! I will put up a guide in few hours and you can see if it works for you!
I think the support for your tablet is lacking and a need for an actual developer to sort things out.
I am not sure about EMMA much but usually I know about JTAG is used to recover hard brick devices. Giving it to Sony is always better option with an impression that you left it charge over night and it wouldn't turn on again. Always works!
Don't worry. It wouldn't be the first tablet hopefully!
Forgot to mention in my previous posts: when I got my tablet back from service, the battery was almost empty (<2%). That gives some support to the notion that you have to drain the battery to unbrick.
Note to would-be buyers who need root: stay away from this tablet (and probably Sony in general). The rooting procedure described in several threads here will drive you mad. It´s catch-22 all the way. (... after step 28 do step 11 unless your device is not LTE then do step 31 and you´re screwed with bootloop or hardbrick...) What a pile of sh**t!
Just tried again to plug it in,
sadly neither the computer nor the tablet showed any reactions in emma or flashtool.
Will try again in a few days.
Hope still is not dead.
Doolittle Duckbill said:
Forgot to mention in my previous posts: when I got my tablet back from service, the battery was almost empty (<2%). That gives some support to the notion that you have to drain the battery to unbrick.
Note to would-be buyers who need root: stay away from this tablet (and probably Sony in general). The rooting procedure described in several threads here will drive you mad. It´s catch-22 all the way. (... after step 28 do step 11 unless your device is not LTE then do step 31 and you´re screwed with bootloop or hardbrick...) What a pile of sh**t!
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Nah you just need to read all the threads stick to the one you most understand and be cautious on every step
in my case i thought i needed root but after all the process and setting up my device it didnt feel right so I went back to stock the nice thing is that i have a backup of the TA partition just in case :victory:
I didn't touch the device for a week now.
But nothing has changed, still bricked. I will sell it as broken.
Hope has died. :crying: