At the launch of the device was discussed a lot about the quality of photos taken in 20MP and 8MP where 8Mp said it had more detail and color that pictures taken with 20MP. By way of doubt, I always use to take my 20MP photos. I wonder if it came to a conclusion on which is better?
BR4DOKYBrazil said:
At the launch of the device was discussed a lot about the quality of photos taken in 20MP and 8MP where 8Mp said it had more detail and color that pictures taken with 20MP. By way of doubt, I always use to take my 20MP photos. I wonder if it came to a conclusion on which is better?
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The closer you are to the maxium of the cameras capability the worse the quality
Lower MP= less noise, better bitrate n quality
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The closer you are to the maxium of the cameras capability the worse the quality
Lower MP= less noise, better bitrate n quality
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Ie 8Mp is better than 20MP!
I can not see where this makes sense!
What about 15MP ?!?
Envious_Data said:
The closer you are to the maxium of the cameras capability the worse the quality
Lower MP= less noise, better bitrate n quality
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Is this only for camera phone sensors? My 20Mp Cybershot gives way better pictures at 20Mp than at lower resolution?
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Is this only for camera phone sensors? My 20Mp Cybershot gives way better pictures at 20Mp than at lower resolution?
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If your talking about cybershot profetional cameras then resolution doesnt matter, noise, quality, sharpness is the same across all
Its just mobile phone cameras which effect with picture resolution
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If your talking about cybershot profetional cameras then resolution doesnt matter, noise, quality, sharpness is the same across all
Its just mobile phone cameras which effect with picture resolution
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Ahhhh OK. I wonder how long it will be before phone cameras are as good as proper cameras. Its annoying having to buy and carry around two devices.
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Ahhhh OK. I wonder how long it will be before phone cameras are as good as proper cameras. Its annoying having to buy and carry around two devices.
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Not realy, 2MP is a 1080p shot, and using manual with the right settings with Z2 literely almost looks as good as a profetional camera
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BR4DOKYBrazil said:
Ie 8Mp is better than 20MP!
I can not see where this makes sense!
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When you want to get text, 8mp looks better than 20mp
BR4DOKYBrazil said:
What about 15MP ?!?
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15mP = 16:9 crop of 20MP
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When you want to get text, 8mp looks better than 20mp
15mP = 16:9 crop of 20MP
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So if I take a trip, take pictures of nature, landscapes, family, etc., would you recommend me 8Mp??
Question on details, colors, sharpness ... 8Mp is better than 20MP? I've tried to take the same picture at different resolutions and I can not notice a difference! Via doubts left in 20MP!
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So if I take a trip, take pictures of nature, landscapes, family, etc., would you recommend me 8Mp??
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This is a subtle one, If you zoom in a little the 8MP will look better but if you zoom in more the 20MP will reveal more structure, but if you zoom in still further the details in 20MP will look more blurred. if you look at ISO charts on gsmarena for Z2 you will see this. Text is more clear in 8MP than 20MP.
20mP means bigger prints possible or little more zoom but not too much
pictures of nature. landscapes in 20MP
family in 8MP
family with nature in the background in 8MP as they are the subject
scene mode shots are all 8MP unless you use mods
Where/What is the subject in the shot ? if its in the foreground you can get way with less resolution and it will look better. This is the strategy if you have 4mp HTC one. You must go closer to your subject then zoom is not required.
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Question on details, colors, sharpness ... 8Mp is better than 20MP? I've tried to take the same picture at different resolutions and I can not notice a difference! Via doubts left in 20MP!
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8MP will be sharper than 20MP but will not allow to zoom as much.
3.5MP will be sharper than 8MP, if no zoom necessary then use 3.5MP for better shot.
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This is a subtle one, If you zoom in a little the 8MP will look better but if you zoom in more the 20MP will reveal more structure, but if you zoom in still further the details in 20MP will look more blurred. if you look at ISO charts on gsmarena for Z2 you will see this. Text is more clear in 8MP than 20MP.
20mP means bigger prints possible or little more zoom but not too much
pictures of nature. landscapes in 20MP
family in 8MP
family with nature in the background in 8MP as they are the subject
scene mode shots are all 8MP unless you use mods
Where/What is the subject in the shot ? if its in the foreground you can get way with less resolution and it will look better. This is the strategy if you have 4mp HTC one. You must go closer to your subject then zoom is not required.
8MP will be sharper than 20MP but will not allow to zoom as much.
3.5MP will be sharper than 8MP, if no zoom necessary then use 3.5MP for better shot.
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It's totally different than I really thought! Of course, I am aware that the sensor counts a lot, but I thought the more MP image would have more details, sharpness and colors! I'll try to take pictures and see the difference!
Try 2MP in low light, you will be suprised.
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It's totally different than I really thought! Of course, I am aware that the sensor counts a lot, but I thought the more MP image would have more details, sharpness and colors! I'll try to take pictures and see the difference!
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it is counter intuitive. The bigger sensor with over sampling helps to make better lower resolution pictures.
The thing is oversampling is only there in auto or scene mode. In manual there is no oversampling at lower resolutions.
I always wonder if there is some over sampling software on pc, if so then you take everything in 20MP and just resize on the pc.
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it is counter intuitive. The bigger sensor with over sampling helps to make better lower resolution pictures.
The thing is oversampling is only there in auto or scene mode. In manual there is no oversampling at lower resolutions.
I always wonder if there is some over sampling software on pc, if so then you take everything in 20MP and just resize on the pc.
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One Twelve, could you explain me what exactly is "oversampling" and what it does?
simple explanation is when there are more pixels it is easier for the software to estimate where the edges are and clean them up and reduce noise so the photo looks sharper when reducing the resolution. What you get is a better approximation. See this post.
But there is a trade off between sharpness over depth of detail with lower resolutions.
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simple explanation is when there are more pixels it is easier for the software to estimate where the edges are and clean them up and reduce noise so the photo looks sharper when reducing the resolution. What you get is a better approximation. See this post.
But there is a trade off between sharpness over depth of detail with lower resolutions.
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Tks so much @One Twelve !!!!
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it is counter intuitive. The bigger sensor with over sampling helps to make better lower resolution pictures.
The thing is oversampling is only there in auto or scene mode. In manual there is no oversampling at lower resolutions.
I always wonder if there is some over sampling software on pc, if so then you take everything in 20MP and just resize on the pc.
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use windows 8/8.1
open the picture using paint
right click on the picture then choose open with
then choose ( paint )
after opening the picture press on the arrow under the select option in the toolbar and choose select all
then choose resize from the toolbar (next to the select option)
you will see a small window
in the resize section select pixels
if you want to change the aspect ratio then unselect the option ( maintain aspect ratio )
then press OK .
you will find that the size was changed
press crop (make sure not to click on the picture before croping) (the crop option is above resize)
then click on the file menu then choose save as. then choose the format and the location.
enjoy
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use windows 8/8.1
open the picture using paint
right click on the picture then choose open with
then choose ( paint )
after opening the picture press on the arrow under the select option in the toolbar and choose select all
then choose resize from the toolbar (next to the select option)
you will see a small window
in the resize section select pixels
if you want to change the aspect ratio then unselect the option ( maintain aspect ratio )
then press OK .
you will find that the size was changed
press crop (make sure not to click on the picture before croping) (the crop option is above resize)
then click on the file menu then choose save as. then choose the format and the location.
enjoy
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This is a resize. Does it oversample though ? that means looking at neighbouring pixels and making a better pixel out of them.
I would recommend 8MP , because of the SCN modes they provide . SCN [sports] will limits the shutter speed to minimum 120fps image , which is clear in high movement scenarios and when images are taken at night .
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I would recommend 8MP , because of the SCN modes they provide . SCN [sports] will limits the shutter speed to minimum 120fps image , which is clear in high movement scenarios and when images are taken at night .
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+1 agree, I use 8mp because of SCN modes, especially Landscapes mode .
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Is there a way to take 12mp photos in the same aspect ratio as the screen, rather than have to stick with 9mp for that? Thanks
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No.
I take my pictures at 6mp so what's wrong with 9mp? The quality isn't less good then on 12mp you can barely see a difference
It's not that a normal Xperia S user will take pictures to show on a giant screen
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Its not normal, but I do occasiomaly use larger screens but thanks, 9mp is indeed still great, and MILES ahead of any other phone ive seen
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But why Sony designed the 12MP camera when it is actually not optimized on Xperia S screen (i.e. full screen)?
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But why Sony designed the 12MP camera when it is actually not optimized on Xperia S screen (i.e. full screen)?
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Xperia S screen is actually 0.9MP (720*1280=921600). Any picture taken with larger resulution is not possible to display without reduction in size. That's the first reason.
The second one is that 12MP has 4000x3000 pixels with aspect ratio 4:3 while the screen is 9:16 (or 16:9 in landscape).
Hope this helps.
Also interested...
Guys, I'm also interested in one thing, I'm newbie photographer but I'm doing well in taking pictures, but I wonder one thing, which resolution is better for photography 12 or 9mp, I see there is not big difference in resolution since 12mp is 4000x3000 and 9mp is 4000x2250 << please help with it.
giorgobiani554 said:
Guys, I'm also interested in one thing, I'm newbie photographer but I'm doing well in taking pictures, but I wonder one thing, which resolution is better for photography 12 or 9mp, I see there is not big difference in resolution since 12mp is 4000x3000 and 9mp is 4000x2250 << please help with it.
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It depends on whatever you like best. I use 9mp, cause it's the same aspect ratio as my phone and my TV.
Thanks, I like 12mp because of details, but 9mp more modern I think, 4:3 resolutions looks a bit ugly, and I dont loose much details 750Pixels not big deal
Also, the more megapixels you have, the more chance you have of getting more noiee2!
I always use 9mp on my XS, because it's still better than most camera phones out at the moment! (IMO)
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To get 16:9 12 mp you will need more than 13.333 mp sensor to do so .
Or just simply upscale to 12mp from 9mp .
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Thanks, I like 12mp because of details, but 9mp more modern I think, 4:3 resolutions looks a bit ugly, and I dont loose much details 750Pixels not big deal
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Also, the more megapixels you have, the more chance you have of getting more noiee2!
I always use 9mp on my XS, because it's still better than most camera phones out at the moment! (IMO)
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There is no difference in quality/details/noise whether you use 9 or 12mp. The only difference is that when set at 9mp, the image will be cropped to the 4000*2250 size. That means you lose 1.5mp (4000*375 pixels) from the top of the image and the same from the bottom just to get the 16:9 aspect ratio, resulting in a narrower field of view.
So basically a 9mp photo from our xperia S is the same as a 12mp photo cropped with photoshop for example, to make it have a 16:9 aspect ratio.
Hi all,
Is it possible to set the camera to take photos in Wide Mode at 8mp? I only see the option for wide mode at 6mp.
If it is possible please advice how it could be done.
Cheers in advance,
Oliver
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Can anyone please advise me, sorry if it's a dumb question but I really want wide mode @ full resolution.
Cheers,
Oliver
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I want this as well
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I want this as well
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I found some info about this here...
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-audio-video/2208-6mp-8mp.html
It claims...
There is no way to get an 8MP wide screen shot on this phone thought the quality is still pretty excellent in 6MP wide screen mode.
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If true then it's a shame
I know this is a little late, but hopefully I can help clarify if you haven't already found the answer somewhere else.
8 Megapixels = 3264×2448
6 Megapixels = 3264×1836
So long story short is that when you take a widescreen picture at 6mp you'll have the same quality of an 8mp shot, the only difference is the actual size and shape of the picture (widescreen will chop off some of the top and bottom of the picture).
You'll still be able to zoom in just as far and see just as much detail as in an 8mp shot. I personally like 6mp widescreen because it fits the screen of my S3 perfectly, but to each his own. Hope I helped anybody wondering
Roco91 said:
I know this is a little late, but hopefully I can help clarify if you haven't already found the answer somewhere else.
8 Megapixels = 3264×2448
6 Megapixels = 3264×1836
So long story short is that when you take a widescreen picture at 6mp you'll have the same quality of an 8mp shot, the only difference is the actual size and shape of the picture (widescreen will chop off some of the top and bottom of the picture).
You'll still be able to zoom in just as far and see just as much detail as in an 8mp shot. I personally like 6mp widescreen because it fits the screen of my S3 perfectly, but to each his own. Hope I helped anybody wondering
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Thanks for the tip mate.
I come from a htc one x and I'm sure that could do 8mp in wide screen.
I had hoped it would be possible to change the software to increase the amount of pixels across the width of the pic using some of the pixels you lose from the hight of wide screen pictures.
But I think this is impossible, it just seems a shame having a 8mp camera and only being able to use 6mp as I also prefer wide screen.
Nevermind, the pictures I take are still good and I'm reasonably happy with the results.
Cheers for the reply
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bigoliver said:
Thanks for the tip mate.
I come from a htc one x and I'm sure that could do 8mp in wide screen.
I had hoped it would be possible to change the software to increase the amount of pixels across the width of the pic using some of the pixels you lose from the hight of wide screen pictures.
But I think this is impossible, it just seems a shame having a 8mp camera and only being able to use 6mp as I also prefer wide screen.
Nevermind, the pictures I take are still good and I'm reasonably happy with the results.
Cheers for the reply
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nop,also htc are 6mpx wide
I think 12mpx or 10mpx can do 8mpx wide, but definitely not 8mpx
erto90 said:
nop,also htc are 6mpx wide
I think 12mpx or 10mpx can do 8mpx wide, but definitely not 8mpx
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Ok thanks for the tip.
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This is with AI turned off:
When you choose to use the 40m resolution in camera setting, it removes the ability to use the 20m wideangle camera.
Example, if i want to take a wideangle photo, i have to go into settings, set the camera to 10m and then "zoom" out to get the 20m(!) wideangle camera.
How is this logic?
did you notice when swithcing to the 10mp setting and want to switch back tovthe 40mp setting, the settting isnt there anymore?!? you have to close the app and swioe away in multitask menu
It's probably because the wide angle lens is the 20mp camera. The main one is 40mp.
D_ralh said:
It's probably because the wide angle lens is the 20mp camera. The main one is 40mp.
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I know, that but thats not the issue here.
One more time:
When you have the main camera on 10mp you get the ability to change to the 20mb wide angle camera. Using the slider on the right side.
But when you have the main camera on 40mb, you are no longer able to change to the wide angle camera. I understand why zoom is removed but not the switch to the wide angle camera wich is another camera anyway
Why is that?
Because with 40mp you are limited to one lens and one sensor. 10mp option utilizes all lenses and sensors as they have 40,20 and 8 MP accordingly, so 10MO is an interpolated resolution.
boober78 said:
Because with 40mp you are limited to one lens and one sensor. 10mp option utilizes all lenses and sensors as they have 40,20 and 8 MP accordingly, so 10MO is an interpolated resolution.
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But still, it should be a button to switch to make it easier. Or a wide angle option in the camera modes (night, portrait, pro, wide angle ect.)
Well, you have the button. It's called settings. Just leave it at default if you don't know how it works maybe ?
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Well, you have the button. It's called settings. Just leave it at default if you don't know how it works maybe
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No need to be rude here. Good for you if you are happy with 10 mp, but for us who wants to use the full potensial of the camera are stuck with a 4-step operation just to make the wide angle work.
That just seem unnecessary.
if you want to use the "full potential" of the camera you would leave it at 10MP and not put it to 40MP.... that's called making use of all available pixels.....
besides you'd be better off asking Huawei tech support about it instead of shooting down everyone else's answers and opinions here.............
me.... i'm more annoyed by the fact that 1080p60 video recording is weirdly zoomed.......
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No need to be rude here. Good for you if you are happy with 10 mp, but for us who wants to use the full potensial of the camera are stuck with a 4-step operation just to make the wide angle work.
That just seem unnecessary.
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Nobody is being rude. It's good to have a perspective. And you are not stuck at 4 step operation. Just leave it as is. You won't have 40mp wide angle as there in no 40mp sensor with wide angle lens, hope that is clear by now.
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if you want to use the "full potential" of the camera you would leave it at 10MP and not put it to 40MP.... that's called making use of all available pixels.....
besides you'd be better off asking Huawei tech support about it instead of shooting down everyone else's answers and opinions here.............
me.... i'm more annoyed by the fact that 1080p60 video recording is weirdly zoomed.......
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No. Full potential would be having the camera switch between the main 40mp lens, the 20mp wide angle and the 8mp zoom lens.
But the software does not give us this option unless you set the 40mp camera to 10 mp. Thats not making use of all available pixels.
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Nobody is being rude. It's good to have a perspective. And you are not stuck at 4 step operation. Just leave it as is. You won't have 40mp wide angle as there in no 40mp sensor with wide angle lens, hope that is clear by now.
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Please read the thread properly. I never said 40 mp wide angle:
"When you choose to use the 40m resolution in camera setting, it removes the ability to use the 20m wideangle camera. "
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Please read the thread properly. I never said 40 mp wide angle:
"When you choose to use the 40m resolution in camera setting, it removes the ability to use the 20m wideangle camera. "
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I read it properly. And replied. When you use the 40 MP sensor you can use only 40MP sensor. Not wide angle, not zoom, but the main one. Hope that's understandable. When you choose 10MP resolution, you can use all three. Quite frankly for me. And most of the users. Just leave it. Really.
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Please read the thread properly. I never said 40 mp wide angle:
"When you choose to use the 40m resolution in camera setting, it removes the ability to use the 20m wideangle camera. "
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I read it properly. And replied. When you use the 40 MP sensor you can use only 40MP sensor. Not wide angle, not zoom, but the main one. Hope that's understandable. When you choose 10MP resolution, you can use all three. Quite frankly for me. And most of the users. Just leave it. Really.
BTW, you don't loose anything. 20MP option was never there.
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Nobody is being rude. It's good to have a perspective. And you are not stuck at 4 step operation. Just leave it as is. You won't have 40mp wide angle as there in no 40mp sensor with wide angle lens, hope that is clear by now.
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Look up "snide" in the dictionary and find your name there buddy (see how I used the emoji to deflect any hostile response there?)
40mp option is there for a reason. When you have plenty of light and don't need pixel-binning to get a clean image, 40mp gives you way more flexibility when editing. Just because some people don't know how to use their phones to take a great photo without all the software helping doesn't mean others can't.
P.S.: There's a whole thread where people complain about what's wrong with the phone (and the OS). This probably belongs there too.
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Look up "snide" in the dictionary and find your name there buddy (see how I used the emoji to deflect any hostile response there?)
40mp option is there for a reason. When you have plenty of light and don't need pixel-binning to get a clean image, 40mp gives you way more flexibility when editing. Just because some people don't know how to use their phones to take a great photo without all the software helping doesn't mean others can't.
P.S.: There's a whole thread where people complain about what's wrong with the phone (and the OS). This probably belongs there too.
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Wow, what a response. Don't really understand what snide means do you? Emoji is there for a reason. The response was not hostile, but was given number of times, maybe the OP should post the problems in the thread you mention or report the issue to Huawei support? There is simply no solution for us to help the OP...
I'd rather have the max resolution for each lens in the camera to unleash the maximum quality of the taken picture... The Huawei Camera software is currently kinda stupid as it limits the potential to do any quick changes.
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I'd rather have the max resolution for each lens in the camera to unleash the maximum quality of the taken picture... The Huawei Camera software is currently kinda stupid as it limits the potential to do any quick changes.
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If you know what you're doing, you don't need to quickly change modes. Just manage your settings throughout the day.
what about tasker or some app that makes a shortcut to the 40 mp setting. with this it should be one press to swtich between the modes? someone tried that?
Lol long story short, to answer the op. 40 MP is a lot right. The isp can only handle so much data. When you're in normal 10mp mode the isp is still using data from the other 2 camera. For example. When you're in the dark and you zoom in it will not use the tele lens because it can see that the image isn't good enough. When you're using the full 40 MP there's simply not enough head room to sample any frames from the other camera. It's not a bug or an issue. It's just a limitation of the hardware
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Lol long story short, to answer the op. 40 MP is a lot right. The isp can only handle so much data. When you're in normal 10mp mode the isp is still using data from the other 2 camera. For example. When you're in the dark and you zoom in it will not use the tele lens because it can see that the image isn't good enough. When you're using the full 40 MP there's simply not enough head room to sample any frames from the other camera. It's not a bug or an issue. It's just a limitation of the hardware
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This is not about zooming.
Short: I just want to be able to switch to the 20 mp wide angle camera when I have 40mp in the main camera.
Just a button replacing "go into settings > resolution > change to 10 mp > exit resolution > exit setting > zoom(!?) out"
I have suggested to Huawei to at least add a "wide angle" option you can download in "more" menu.
If you agree, let Huawei know and hopefully we will see a update on this.
Can anyone explain how that works, I mean why?
that's the resolution of the final photo not the capabilities of each individual lens
10mb is fine for most uses
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that's the resolution of the final photo not the capabilities of each individual lens
10mb is fine for most uses
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That's the issue, we'll never get the full quality when zooming in
https://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/iphone/best-camera-phone-megapixels-3502115/
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That's the issue, we'll never get the full quality when zooming in
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That isn't really how it works at all. If you do "zooming" with the 40mp lens, that is cropping, not zooming. Setting the phone to 10mp uses some pureview type technology to improve image quality on 1x, and when you go up to 5x it uses a mixture of the 3x and 1x lenses to keep the overall quality up to "10mp" levels.
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That's the issue, we'll never get the full quality when zooming in
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Actually on a smartphone sensor, unless you're in perfect light, a smaller mp count is better for photo quality.
You are free to use 40mp and it's really good especially in good light, but the 10mp photo is better because it uses 4 pixels of data to make a 10mp photo of much higher quality. It also allows you to zoom much further with better results than any other phone, and gives a much better depth of field (blur in background).
The wide angle is 20mp by the way and the zoom lens is 8 (although it sometimes uses 10 i believe)
Again we wont get a true 20mb camera, I didn't buy it for ruddy 10mb pictures
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Again we wont get a true 20mb camera, I didn't buy it for ruddy 10mb pictures
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Same here. Quite annoying.
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(...)I didn't buy it for ruddy 10mb pictures
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Same here. Quite annoying.
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I had a Note 9, was pretty happy with it, it fell down hard and broke beyond repair so instead of getting a new one, I went with the Mate 20 Pro for the 40mp camera, as I really like taking pictures. Same as you both, quite disappointed.. Anyway, it is a nice phone..
EDIT: yeah I know the pictures look nice while not full 40mp. Just to make it clear: What I enjoy is taking high MP pics and, later when I have time, cropping and saving only the best framing, best part of each photo. Sometimes I crop out just a bit of stuff, sometimes I crop out a lot of stuff and only leave the important things in the pic. So that is why I prefer being able to take higher MP photos.
As you probably already know, there is more than one way to take close-up pictures with your P30 Pro. You can use the dedicated Super Macro mode (found under More in your stock camera app) or manually set the focus to macro in Pro mode. However, two years of experience have taught me that by far the best way to take really crisp macro shots with my phone is not an obvious one. In fact, I bet you have never even tried it.
You see, our phone comes with 2 primary lenses, each with its own sensor. The main lens boasts a 40MP sensor, making it the default choice for your everyday shots, while the wide secondary lens has a 20MP sensor, which makes it sound a little underwhelming. However, when it comes to macro photography, the wide lens has one major advantage over its big brother - a much shorter minimum focus distance. This allows you to bring the lens much closer to your subject before the image becomes blurry. So to take superior close-up shots with your P30 Pro, all you have to do is switch to the wide lens by selecting the Wide picture mode in the camera app. You can combine this with the dedicated HDR mode (found under More in your stock camera app) to eliminate any unwanted shadows. However, be aware that at such close proximity to the subject the autofocus can no longer be relied on. So manual focusing is strongly recommended.
Below are some sample pictures taken by each lens at their minimum focus distance.
40MP Primary Lens at minimum focus distance:
https://ibb.co/61kjmDQ
40MP Primary Lens, Closer Look:
https://ibb.co/ftpmCnx
20MP Secondary (Wide) Lens at minimum focus distance:
https://ibb.co/f4J7rCD
20MP Secondary (Wide) Lens, Closer Look:
https://ibb.co/dktkjqH
As you can see, the wide lens was able to capture far superior detail at minimum focusing distance compared to the 40MP shot. In real life application this means less cropping and more pictures like these:
https://ibb.co/cTn6W2J
https://ibb.co/1TtJHyz
https://ibb.co/Qb8PfNh
Have fun with your Macro shots!
That's really informative, and the difference in detail in your pics is quite stark. I'll try your suggestions for myself.
Thanks
That last pic is stunning!
I would add something to this post : shoot in RAW. You'll need to post-process the pictures, but the results are way much better regarding color, sharpness and lighting than what the auto mode can provide !
Quick comparison :
Auto mode :
https://ibb.co/QfzW5F3
RAW file manually edited :
https://ibb.co/bmWmmLq
I can assure you this flower wasn't anywhere near pink !
All the colours are different between those two pics, not just the flower. What does post-processing involve?
It's actually up to you. The RAW file only offers you a lot more freedom, with greater dynamic range and sharpness than a jpg file. You can crop and still get a perfectly sharp picture, you can play with lighting, shadows, colors ... to get exactly what you want.
In my case, a better quality and a more realistic / natural look. Most of the time, I get oversaturated pictures, with an exaggerated HDR effect and lack of detail using the auto mode (and I'm not only talking about macrophotography).
Regarding this specific RAW picture, I cropped and increased saturation and texture using Photoshop. The whole process took no more than ten minutes.
To give you an idea, here is what it looks like unedited : https://ibb.co/3mVKFbX
poulos971 said:
It's actually up to you. The RAW file only offers you a lot more freedom, with greater dynamic range and sharpness than a jpg file. You can crop and still get a perfectly sharp picture, you can play with lighting, shadows, colors ... to get exactly what you want.
In my case, a better quality and a more realistic / natural look. Most of the time, I get oversaturated pictures, with an exaggerated HDR effect and lack of detail using the auto mode (and I'm not only talking about macrophotography).
Regarding this specific RAW picture, I cropped and increased saturation and texture using Photoshop. The whole process took no more than ten minutes.
To give you an idea, here is what it looks like unedited : https://ibb.co/3mVKFbX
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I do enjoy playing with RAW. However, as I only ever post my pictures on social media where their quality gets butchered by the site's own compression engine, I find it difficult to justify the time investment in RAW editing. So I stick to JPEG format in Pro mode with master AI disabled.
i can't see "wide picture "in camera app for 20mp lens??cancel that
tonybhoy said:
i can't see "wide picture "in camera app for 20mp lens??cancel that
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You need to be in Pro mode with resolution set to 10MP. Don't ask me why. Ask our friends at Huawei =)
https://ibb.co/7jcRFFc
So I took Paulos971's suggestion and combined the wide lens macro with RAW. I have to say - I am not disappointed. Below are the edited versions of the same image taken simultaneously in RAW and JPEG.
Image saved as JPEG:
https://ibb.co/nmQcXLk
Image saved as RAW (.DNG):
https://ibb.co/cTn6W2J
koi8ru said:
You need to be in Pro mode with resolution set to 10MP. Don't ask me why. Ask our friends at Huawei =)
https://ibb.co/7jcRFFc
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i just went to photo mode and slid slider down to wide,never went to pro
koi8ru said:
So I took Paulos971's suggestion and combined the wide lens macro with RAW. I have to say - I am not disappointed. Below are the edited versions of the same image taken simultaneously in RAW and JPEG.
Image saved as JPEG:
https://ibb.co/nmQcXLk
Image saved as RAW (.DNG):
https://ibb.co/cTn6W2J
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Wow, amazing picture ! :good:
Yeah editing takes some time indeed, but I really think it's worth it
guys, go see my page, i have a lot of photos taken by my P30 Pro. You will see a lot of macro photography
My name on instagram is Titibenze
poulos971 said:
I would add something to this post : shoot in RAW. You'll need to post-process the pictures, but the results are way much better regarding color, sharpness and lighting than what the auto mode can provide !
Quick comparison :
Auto mode :
https://ibb.co/QfzW5F3
RAW file manually edited :
https://ibb.co/bmWmmLq
I can assure you this flower wasn't anywhere near pink !
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I tried many times to use RAW, but it works only at full res of 40mp an noise is incredibly hight, even with good light. Ho do yout set for those 2 example shot??
Leoxur said:
I tried many times to use RAW, but it works only at full res of 40mp an noise is incredibly hight, even with good light. Ho do yout set for those 2 example shot??
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Yes, the RAW file will always be a full resolution picture (i. e. 40mp using the main camera, 20mp on the ultrawide and 8mp on the telephoto).
To avoid noise, you must shoot at the lowest possible ISO setting ! It also depends on the sensor used (as the main one is bigger, it produces less noisy pictures than the ultrawide / telephoto).
This example picture was shot in 1/500s at 50 ISO using the ultrawide camera.