This is with AI turned off:
When you choose to use the 40m resolution in camera setting, it removes the ability to use the 20m wideangle camera.
Example, if i want to take a wideangle photo, i have to go into settings, set the camera to 10m and then "zoom" out to get the 20m(!) wideangle camera.
How is this logic?
did you notice when swithcing to the 10mp setting and want to switch back tovthe 40mp setting, the settting isnt there anymore?!? you have to close the app and swioe away in multitask menu
It's probably because the wide angle lens is the 20mp camera. The main one is 40mp.
D_ralh said:
It's probably because the wide angle lens is the 20mp camera. The main one is 40mp.
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I know, that but thats not the issue here.
One more time:
When you have the main camera on 10mp you get the ability to change to the 20mb wide angle camera. Using the slider on the right side.
But when you have the main camera on 40mb, you are no longer able to change to the wide angle camera. I understand why zoom is removed but not the switch to the wide angle camera wich is another camera anyway
Why is that?
Because with 40mp you are limited to one lens and one sensor. 10mp option utilizes all lenses and sensors as they have 40,20 and 8 MP accordingly, so 10MO is an interpolated resolution.
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Because with 40mp you are limited to one lens and one sensor. 10mp option utilizes all lenses and sensors as they have 40,20 and 8 MP accordingly, so 10MO is an interpolated resolution.
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But still, it should be a button to switch to make it easier. Or a wide angle option in the camera modes (night, portrait, pro, wide angle ect.)
Well, you have the button. It's called settings. Just leave it at default if you don't know how it works maybe ?
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Well, you have the button. It's called settings. Just leave it at default if you don't know how it works maybe
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No need to be rude here. Good for you if you are happy with 10 mp, but for us who wants to use the full potensial of the camera are stuck with a 4-step operation just to make the wide angle work.
That just seem unnecessary.
if you want to use the "full potential" of the camera you would leave it at 10MP and not put it to 40MP.... that's called making use of all available pixels.....
besides you'd be better off asking Huawei tech support about it instead of shooting down everyone else's answers and opinions here.............
me.... i'm more annoyed by the fact that 1080p60 video recording is weirdly zoomed.......
terkje said:
No need to be rude here. Good for you if you are happy with 10 mp, but for us who wants to use the full potensial of the camera are stuck with a 4-step operation just to make the wide angle work.
That just seem unnecessary.
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Nobody is being rude. It's good to have a perspective. And you are not stuck at 4 step operation. Just leave it as is. You won't have 40mp wide angle as there in no 40mp sensor with wide angle lens, hope that is clear by now.
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if you want to use the "full potential" of the camera you would leave it at 10MP and not put it to 40MP.... that's called making use of all available pixels.....
besides you'd be better off asking Huawei tech support about it instead of shooting down everyone else's answers and opinions here.............
me.... i'm more annoyed by the fact that 1080p60 video recording is weirdly zoomed.......
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No. Full potential would be having the camera switch between the main 40mp lens, the 20mp wide angle and the 8mp zoom lens.
But the software does not give us this option unless you set the 40mp camera to 10 mp. Thats not making use of all available pixels.
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Nobody is being rude. It's good to have a perspective. And you are not stuck at 4 step operation. Just leave it as is. You won't have 40mp wide angle as there in no 40mp sensor with wide angle lens, hope that is clear by now.
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Please read the thread properly. I never said 40 mp wide angle:
"When you choose to use the 40m resolution in camera setting, it removes the ability to use the 20m wideangle camera. "
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Please read the thread properly. I never said 40 mp wide angle:
"When you choose to use the 40m resolution in camera setting, it removes the ability to use the 20m wideangle camera. "
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I read it properly. And replied. When you use the 40 MP sensor you can use only 40MP sensor. Not wide angle, not zoom, but the main one. Hope that's understandable. When you choose 10MP resolution, you can use all three. Quite frankly for me. And most of the users. Just leave it. Really.
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Please read the thread properly. I never said 40 mp wide angle:
"When you choose to use the 40m resolution in camera setting, it removes the ability to use the 20m wideangle camera. "
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I read it properly. And replied. When you use the 40 MP sensor you can use only 40MP sensor. Not wide angle, not zoom, but the main one. Hope that's understandable. When you choose 10MP resolution, you can use all three. Quite frankly for me. And most of the users. Just leave it. Really.
BTW, you don't loose anything. 20MP option was never there.
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Nobody is being rude. It's good to have a perspective. And you are not stuck at 4 step operation. Just leave it as is. You won't have 40mp wide angle as there in no 40mp sensor with wide angle lens, hope that is clear by now.
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Look up "snide" in the dictionary and find your name there buddy (see how I used the emoji to deflect any hostile response there?)
40mp option is there for a reason. When you have plenty of light and don't need pixel-binning to get a clean image, 40mp gives you way more flexibility when editing. Just because some people don't know how to use their phones to take a great photo without all the software helping doesn't mean others can't.
P.S.: There's a whole thread where people complain about what's wrong with the phone (and the OS). This probably belongs there too.
Itaintrite said:
Look up "snide" in the dictionary and find your name there buddy (see how I used the emoji to deflect any hostile response there?)
40mp option is there for a reason. When you have plenty of light and don't need pixel-binning to get a clean image, 40mp gives you way more flexibility when editing. Just because some people don't know how to use their phones to take a great photo without all the software helping doesn't mean others can't.
P.S.: There's a whole thread where people complain about what's wrong with the phone (and the OS). This probably belongs there too.
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Wow, what a response. Don't really understand what snide means do you? Emoji is there for a reason. The response was not hostile, but was given number of times, maybe the OP should post the problems in the thread you mention or report the issue to Huawei support? There is simply no solution for us to help the OP...
I'd rather have the max resolution for each lens in the camera to unleash the maximum quality of the taken picture... The Huawei Camera software is currently kinda stupid as it limits the potential to do any quick changes.
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I'd rather have the max resolution for each lens in the camera to unleash the maximum quality of the taken picture... The Huawei Camera software is currently kinda stupid as it limits the potential to do any quick changes.
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If you know what you're doing, you don't need to quickly change modes. Just manage your settings throughout the day.
what about tasker or some app that makes a shortcut to the 40 mp setting. with this it should be one press to swtich between the modes? someone tried that?
Lol long story short, to answer the op. 40 MP is a lot right. The isp can only handle so much data. When you're in normal 10mp mode the isp is still using data from the other 2 camera. For example. When you're in the dark and you zoom in it will not use the tele lens because it can see that the image isn't good enough. When you're using the full 40 MP there's simply not enough head room to sample any frames from the other camera. It's not a bug or an issue. It's just a limitation of the hardware
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Lol long story short, to answer the op. 40 MP is a lot right. The isp can only handle so much data. When you're in normal 10mp mode the isp is still using data from the other 2 camera. For example. When you're in the dark and you zoom in it will not use the tele lens because it can see that the image isn't good enough. When you're using the full 40 MP there's simply not enough head room to sample any frames from the other camera. It's not a bug or an issue. It's just a limitation of the hardware
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This is not about zooming.
Short: I just want to be able to switch to the 20 mp wide angle camera when I have 40mp in the main camera.
Just a button replacing "go into settings > resolution > change to 10 mp > exit resolution > exit setting > zoom(!?) out"
I have suggested to Huawei to at least add a "wide angle" option you can download in "more" menu.
If you agree, let Huawei know and hopefully we will see a update on this.
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I don't know why when I zoom (normal mode) to 2x the 2nd lens is not function. Only in live focus mode it will be 2x optical zoom. You can try by using the finger to cover the 2nd lens (at the edge) and try to zoom. Is this SAMSUNG cheat us or for which reason?
hatori said:
I don't know why when I zoom (normal mode) to 2x the 2nd lens is not function. Only in live focus mode it will be 2x optical zoom. You can try by using the finger to cover the 2nd lens (at the edge) and try to zoom. Is this SAMSUNG cheat us or for which reason?
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You won't get many replies...there are already 2 or more threads discussing this.
the reason it doesnt use the 2x zoom optical is because of insufficient lightning for the 2.4 aperture, you need about 100+ lux minimum for it to work, download an sensor app to see what amount of lux is inside the room or area you are.
putting a finger on the secondary lens doesnt work, when the second camara detects not enough lightning or something blocking it, it will use only the main camara
the reason it will always use it in live focus is because in live focus u cant create the effect without using it, it will use it without caring about lightning, or something blocking it.
could have found out what im saying yourself, instead you made assumptions.
the iphone dual camara system works exactly like this, no good lightning? no telephoto..... except on the note 8 it also turns off if something is blocking it apperently.
The wide/main lens has better low light image quality than the telephoto lens. When taking a picture outdoors, the scene is bright enough that the telephoto lens will be used when you click on the x2 icon. If you take the picture indoors, even with artificial light, the phone sees the you get a better picture from the main lens so it uses that instead, and then crops the picture to get the zoom effect.
Look at the pictures attached. That's the same shot from the main and zoom lens. In low light, the zoom lens has worse image quality, with increased graininess from pumping up the ISO and a lot more blur from having to keep the shutter open longer to get more light in
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When you use photo mode and toggle 2X it doesn't use the top lens, the telephoto one, it uses the maine with digital zoom, it makes no sense.
The only way to activate that lens is in portrait mode, them is uses the telephoto lens.
For me is a bit illogical not using the optical zoom in photo mode, like the mate 20 line-up does, it would be great that it could be fix in the future with a update.
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When you use photo mode and toggle 2X it doesn't use the top lens, the telephoto one, it uses the maine with digital zoom, it makes no sense.
The only way to activate that lens is in portrait mode, them is uses the telephoto lens.
For me is a bit illogical not using the optical zoom in photo mode, like the mate 20 line-up does, it would be great that it could be fix in the future with a update.
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.... I thought that the detail of the 2x zoom wasn't that good!
Reported to Xiaomi.
What?? You are right..... What a find....
I just also noticed this. Since using gcam with telephoto produces far better results.
Rommco05 said:
Where you reported? Post here link and we can join to that bug
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Just via Settings - Feedback (at the bottom of the settings menu)
cLeAv0 said:
I just also noticed this. Since using gcam with telephoto produces far better results.
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Which verison?
Cheers
TelePhoto Lens 2x times zoom is working on Photo mode.
It just depends on the lightning conditions. When it has enough light it uses telephoto.
Hi there,
i know (and i don´t want to do/change that) that zoom is not possible while capturing a 40 MP photo. What i am trying to configure is that my "normal" photos (so no zoom etc) are taken in 40 MP, but that i still have the option to switch to the other lenses in the normal screen and not within the options.
In other words: While just shooting photos (10mp mode) you have 4 options on the right. Wide angle lense, normal photo (1x), zoom 5x and zoom 10x. When switching to 40 MP these options disappear and if you want to zoom you first have to disable 40 mp in the camera options. Why is this so? Again, i understand that my zoom or wide angle does not support 40 MP, but wouldn´t it be possible for the camera app to automatically switch the resolution while switching the lenses? Am i missing something, is this option present and i just don´t know how to use it or can anyone explain why the app has to work this way?
I know that the 40 mp mode is also used in the 10 mp mode, because 4 pixels are beeing used to produce 1 pixel with better lightning and such. Also i see myself using the 10 mp 99% of the time, there are just some situations with very good light where i see myself thinking about "how about shooting it in 40 mp to be able to print it bigger".
Regards
I fully understand what you mean.
I think it is for the user who isn't so tech-savvy. If I were not a technical person and I selected the 40MP camera mode, then zoomed it (with it switching to 10MP as stated above) then I might get annoyed that it hasn't taken a 40MP image, as I asked of it. Now the more technically minded user will think "That's because it is using a different sensor", but the non-technically minded user will think they've been lied to and that their phone isn't capable of something it should be.
As such I imagine it is a design choice rather than anything.
There is no way, you need to switch back to 10MP
As you probably already know, there is more than one way to take close-up pictures with your P30 Pro. You can use the dedicated Super Macro mode (found under More in your stock camera app) or manually set the focus to macro in Pro mode. However, two years of experience have taught me that by far the best way to take really crisp macro shots with my phone is not an obvious one. In fact, I bet you have never even tried it.
You see, our phone comes with 2 primary lenses, each with its own sensor. The main lens boasts a 40MP sensor, making it the default choice for your everyday shots, while the wide secondary lens has a 20MP sensor, which makes it sound a little underwhelming. However, when it comes to macro photography, the wide lens has one major advantage over its big brother - a much shorter minimum focus distance. This allows you to bring the lens much closer to your subject before the image becomes blurry. So to take superior close-up shots with your P30 Pro, all you have to do is switch to the wide lens by selecting the Wide picture mode in the camera app. You can combine this with the dedicated HDR mode (found under More in your stock camera app) to eliminate any unwanted shadows. However, be aware that at such close proximity to the subject the autofocus can no longer be relied on. So manual focusing is strongly recommended.
Below are some sample pictures taken by each lens at their minimum focus distance.
40MP Primary Lens at minimum focus distance:
https://ibb.co/61kjmDQ
40MP Primary Lens, Closer Look:
https://ibb.co/ftpmCnx
20MP Secondary (Wide) Lens at minimum focus distance:
https://ibb.co/f4J7rCD
20MP Secondary (Wide) Lens, Closer Look:
https://ibb.co/dktkjqH
As you can see, the wide lens was able to capture far superior detail at minimum focusing distance compared to the 40MP shot. In real life application this means less cropping and more pictures like these:
https://ibb.co/cTn6W2J
https://ibb.co/1TtJHyz
https://ibb.co/Qb8PfNh
Have fun with your Macro shots!
That's really informative, and the difference in detail in your pics is quite stark. I'll try your suggestions for myself.
Thanks
That last pic is stunning!
I would add something to this post : shoot in RAW. You'll need to post-process the pictures, but the results are way much better regarding color, sharpness and lighting than what the auto mode can provide !
Quick comparison :
Auto mode :
https://ibb.co/QfzW5F3
RAW file manually edited :
https://ibb.co/bmWmmLq
I can assure you this flower wasn't anywhere near pink !
All the colours are different between those two pics, not just the flower. What does post-processing involve?
It's actually up to you. The RAW file only offers you a lot more freedom, with greater dynamic range and sharpness than a jpg file. You can crop and still get a perfectly sharp picture, you can play with lighting, shadows, colors ... to get exactly what you want.
In my case, a better quality and a more realistic / natural look. Most of the time, I get oversaturated pictures, with an exaggerated HDR effect and lack of detail using the auto mode (and I'm not only talking about macrophotography).
Regarding this specific RAW picture, I cropped and increased saturation and texture using Photoshop. The whole process took no more than ten minutes.
To give you an idea, here is what it looks like unedited : https://ibb.co/3mVKFbX
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It's actually up to you. The RAW file only offers you a lot more freedom, with greater dynamic range and sharpness than a jpg file. You can crop and still get a perfectly sharp picture, you can play with lighting, shadows, colors ... to get exactly what you want.
In my case, a better quality and a more realistic / natural look. Most of the time, I get oversaturated pictures, with an exaggerated HDR effect and lack of detail using the auto mode (and I'm not only talking about macrophotography).
Regarding this specific RAW picture, I cropped and increased saturation and texture using Photoshop. The whole process took no more than ten minutes.
To give you an idea, here is what it looks like unedited : https://ibb.co/3mVKFbX
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I do enjoy playing with RAW. However, as I only ever post my pictures on social media where their quality gets butchered by the site's own compression engine, I find it difficult to justify the time investment in RAW editing. So I stick to JPEG format in Pro mode with master AI disabled.
i can't see "wide picture "in camera app for 20mp lens??cancel that
tonybhoy said:
i can't see "wide picture "in camera app for 20mp lens??cancel that
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You need to be in Pro mode with resolution set to 10MP. Don't ask me why. Ask our friends at Huawei =)
https://ibb.co/7jcRFFc
So I took Paulos971's suggestion and combined the wide lens macro with RAW. I have to say - I am not disappointed. Below are the edited versions of the same image taken simultaneously in RAW and JPEG.
Image saved as JPEG:
https://ibb.co/nmQcXLk
Image saved as RAW (.DNG):
https://ibb.co/cTn6W2J
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You need to be in Pro mode with resolution set to 10MP. Don't ask me why. Ask our friends at Huawei =)
https://ibb.co/7jcRFFc
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i just went to photo mode and slid slider down to wide,never went to pro
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So I took Paulos971's suggestion and combined the wide lens macro with RAW. I have to say - I am not disappointed. Below are the edited versions of the same image taken simultaneously in RAW and JPEG.
Image saved as JPEG:
https://ibb.co/nmQcXLk
Image saved as RAW (.DNG):
https://ibb.co/cTn6W2J
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Wow, amazing picture ! :good:
Yeah editing takes some time indeed, but I really think it's worth it
guys, go see my page, i have a lot of photos taken by my P30 Pro. You will see a lot of macro photography
My name on instagram is Titibenze
poulos971 said:
I would add something to this post : shoot in RAW. You'll need to post-process the pictures, but the results are way much better regarding color, sharpness and lighting than what the auto mode can provide !
Quick comparison :
Auto mode :
https://ibb.co/QfzW5F3
RAW file manually edited :
https://ibb.co/bmWmmLq
I can assure you this flower wasn't anywhere near pink !
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I tried many times to use RAW, but it works only at full res of 40mp an noise is incredibly hight, even with good light. Ho do yout set for those 2 example shot??
Leoxur said:
I tried many times to use RAW, but it works only at full res of 40mp an noise is incredibly hight, even with good light. Ho do yout set for those 2 example shot??
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Yes, the RAW file will always be a full resolution picture (i. e. 40mp using the main camera, 20mp on the ultrawide and 8mp on the telephoto).
To avoid noise, you must shoot at the lowest possible ISO setting ! It also depends on the sensor used (as the main one is bigger, it produces less noisy pictures than the ultrawide / telephoto).
This example picture was shot in 1/500s at 50 ISO using the ultrawide camera.
I'm on the 8/256 GB Reno 10x Zoom global. After getting ColorOS 7 I noticed a feature missing. Before the update the camera used to stitch together a combination of telephoto and main lenses when zooming between 3x and 4.9x, before switching to the telephoto exclusively for 5x and beyond. Now on ColorOS 7, anything under 5x is just pure digital zoom and it looks like garbage. Have hard reset my phone twice and reinstalled the whole OS just to make sure it wasn't an error on my unit specifically. Anyone know anything about this?
I can't post the link but googling
"3x-4.9x uses the main camera and telephoto camera."
Brings you to the Oppo page related to this feature
just my opinion
The telephoto lens is locked on 5x, so there is no way it can give you anything below it. Even if you go above 5x, then digital zoom will interfere
During the launch, this phone was providing 6x setup as Telephoto's 5x + digital touchup. This was done to maintain the focal length among cameras
i think this update did justice to the camera's hardware specifications.
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I'm on the 8/256 GB Reno 10x Zoom global. After getting ColorOS 7 I noticed a feature missing. Before the update the camera used to stitch together a combination of telephoto and main lenses when zooming between 3x and 4.9x, before switching to the telephoto exclusively for 5x and beyond. Now on ColorOS 7, anything under 5x is just pure digital zoom and it looks like garbage. Have hard reset my phone twice and reinstalled the whole OS just to make sure it wasn't an error on my unit specifically. Anyone know anything about this?
I can't post the link but googling
"3x-4.9x uses the main camera and telephoto camera."
Brings you to the Oppo page related to this feature
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Under 5x is digital? What are you on? Above 5x is digital, below and including is optical.
Screenshots show the settings.
moozer said:
Under 5x is digital? What are you on? Above 5x is digital, below and including is optical.
Screenshots show the settings.
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You have no clue what you're talking about. The 5x telephoto lense kicks in at 5x and anything under is digital. If you have nothing useful to add don't bother sharing.
Also...here's some screens of 1x, 2x, 5x and 10x of a garment sat 2 feet away using video mode.
Also...quit the rudeness. If I'm wrong, I will say so if proven to be. I had the assumption that digital zoom was a compliment to optical zoom to achieve closer detail above and beyond optical capability. That's all.
As you can see...10x is more blurry...hence digital zoom
If I am wrong, please discuss and enlighten me, but avoid rudeness
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Also...here's some screens of 1x, 2x, 5x and 10x of a garment sat 2 feet away using video mode.
Also...quit the rudeness. If I'm wrong, I will say so if proven to be. I had the assumption that digital zoom was a compliment to optical zoom to achieve closer detail above and beyond optical capability. That's all.
As you can see...10x is more blurry...hence digital zoom
If I am wrong, please discuss and enlighten me, but avoid rudeness
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Kicking off your comment with "what are you on?" Is the only rudeness I see here. Your screenshot is in video mode, and the telephoto doesn't record video so zoom will always be digital. That's entirely unrelated to the topic at hand.
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The telephoto lens is locked on 5x, so there is no way it can give you anything below it. Even if you go above 5x, then digital zoom will interfere
During the launch, this phone was providing 6x setup as Telephoto's 5x + digital touchup. This was done to maintain the focal length among cameras
i think this update did justice to the camera's hardware specifications.
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Actually below 5x it used to use the telephoto for the center of the image and the digital data from the main sensor for the edges, making it clear in the middle and fuzzy on the outsides when zooming 3x-4.9x. And it doesn't anymore unfortunately
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Kicking off your comment with "what are you on?" Is the only rudeness I see here. Your screenshot is in video mode, and the telephoto doesn't record video so zoom will always be digital. That's entirely unrelated to the topic at hand.
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Oh dear...what are you on as in....video mode? Photo mode? 1080? 30/60fps? That kind of thing. Where you are getting rudeness from there...I do not know.
Wind your neck in. Totally unnecessary rudeness
Screens showing photo mode
Wide...1x...2x...5x....10x
Subject approximately ½ metre from device, so I would fully expect clearer photos in 5x and 10x were they to be optically rendered. They are not clearly, which leads to believe what I was saying about digital vs optical. I'm open to learning about this in more detail, so please discuss this
The zoom lens don't Focus in close objects, that's why they are blurry.
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Actually below 5x it used to use the telephoto for the center of the image and the digital data from the main sensor for the edges, making it clear in the middle and fuzzy on the outsides when zooming 3x-4.9x. And it doesn't anymore unfortunately
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considering your point, i believe the settings of camera is plain clear and better now, than the half baked sandwich
moozer said:
Oh dear...what are you on as in....video mode? Photo mode? 1080? 30/60fps? That kind of thing. Where you are getting rudeness from there...I do not know.
Wind your neck in. Totally unnecessary rudeness
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I see, misunderstanding. I do apologize. And yes the camera has been done much justice by this update. The Reno 10x feels far better and I fell in love with the phone again. The software finally matches up with the hardware.
I have no complaints nother than the one feature that is now missing. The mode I'm on is photo. Video never used the wide or telephoto to begin with (unfortunately) so what I'm speaking on only applies to photo mode.
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considering your point, i believe the settings of camera is plain clear and better now, than the half baked sandwich
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I agree. Hardware is now much more complimented by the software. 10/10 for the update. I'm just sad to see that one small feature go.
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The zoom lens don't Focus in close objects, that's why they are blurry.
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Exactly, it's 5x zoom and also 5x focal distance. ??
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Screens showing photo mode
Wide...1x...2x...5x....10x
Subject approximately ½ metre from device, so I would fully expect clearer photos in 5x and 10x were they to be optically rendered. They are not clearly, which leads to believe what I was saying about digital vs optical. I'm open to learning about this in more detail, so please discuss this
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As for this point, the telephoto lense is able to zoom so far because it actually isn't focusing light until an object is about 5 to 6 feet away. Your subject looked blurry because it was too close for the 5x lense. That's tne downside of a far reaching zoom lense, you can't get close to your subject. That's the difference between 5x macro and 5x zoom. I've never been able to photograph anything closer than 6 feet with the telephoto lense
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As for this point, the telephoto lense is able to zoom so far because it actually isn't focusing light until an object is about 5 to 6 feet away. Your subject looked blurry because it was too close for the 5x lense. That's tne downside of a far reaching zoom lense, you can't get close to your subject. That's the difference between 5x macro and 5x zoom. I've never been able to photograph anything closer than 6 feet with the telephoto lense
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Thank you
This is what he is saying, in my opinion he is right,
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" oppo-nz.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6737/~/what-cameras-are-used-for-the-zoom-mode%C2%A0in-reno-10x-zoom%3F "
zoom from 1x-5x only has digital zoom main lens, 5x is telephoto lens
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moozer said:
Screens showing photo mode
Wide...1x...2x...5x....10x
Subject approximately ½ metre from device, so I would fully expect clearer photos in 5x and 10x were they to be optically rendered. They are not clearly, which leads to believe what I was saying about digital vs optical. I'm open to learning about this in more detail, so please discuss this
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zoom lens has a large focal length for capturing distant objects, if too close it will not be visible because it is in focus, the principle of seeing glass converge
He is referring to the image fusion technique which uses both main lens (for the borders) and zoom lens (for the center) between 3-4.9x, you can check DXOMark's review for more details.
Although this technique creates better resolution on center (as it is using the 5X zoom lens), it also creates artifacts which is not easily fixable.
I seldom use this range so it's not important to me. What we are waiting is video function using all lens, which is already implemented with ColorOS 7.1 update on Reno 5G (CPH1921) and Reno 10X China version (PCCM00), but not on Reno 10X Global (CPH1919) yet.
squallho1 said:
He is referring to the image fusion technique which uses both main lens (for the borders) and zoom lens (for the center) between 3-4.9x, you can check DXOMark's review for more details.
Although this technique creates better resolution on center (as it is using the 5X zoom lens), it also creates artifacts which is not easily fixable.
I seldom use this range so it's not important to me. What we are waiting is video function using all lens, which is already implemented with ColorOS 7.1 update on Reno 5G (CPH1921) and Reno 10X China version (PCCM00), but not on Reno 10X Global (CPH1919) yet.
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Thank you.
We had established 2 weeks ago that I'd misunderstood, but thanks for adding to the knowledge database, dude
squallho1 said:
He is referring to the image fusion technique which uses both main lens (for the borders) and zoom lens (for the center) between 3-4.9x, you can check DXOMark's review for more details.
Although this technique creates better resolution on center (as it is using the 5X zoom lens), it also creates artifacts which is not easily fixable.
I seldom use this range so it's not important to me. What we are waiting is video function using all lens, which is already implemented with ColorOS 7.1 update on Reno 5G (CPH1921) and Reno 10X China version (PCCM00), but not on Reno 10X Global (CPH1919) yet.
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I don't suppose the ColorOS 7.1 update on the Reno 5g added RAW file support did it? (I am not expecting it to, but it's my most desired feature [more so than video on the other lenses])