I don't know why when I zoom (normal mode) to 2x the 2nd lens is not function. Only in live focus mode it will be 2x optical zoom. You can try by using the finger to cover the 2nd lens (at the edge) and try to zoom. Is this SAMSUNG cheat us or for which reason?
hatori said:
I don't know why when I zoom (normal mode) to 2x the 2nd lens is not function. Only in live focus mode it will be 2x optical zoom. You can try by using the finger to cover the 2nd lens (at the edge) and try to zoom. Is this SAMSUNG cheat us or for which reason?
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You won't get many replies...there are already 2 or more threads discussing this.
the reason it doesnt use the 2x zoom optical is because of insufficient lightning for the 2.4 aperture, you need about 100+ lux minimum for it to work, download an sensor app to see what amount of lux is inside the room or area you are.
putting a finger on the secondary lens doesnt work, when the second camara detects not enough lightning or something blocking it, it will use only the main camara
the reason it will always use it in live focus is because in live focus u cant create the effect without using it, it will use it without caring about lightning, or something blocking it.
could have found out what im saying yourself, instead you made assumptions.
the iphone dual camara system works exactly like this, no good lightning? no telephoto..... except on the note 8 it also turns off if something is blocking it apperently.
The wide/main lens has better low light image quality than the telephoto lens. When taking a picture outdoors, the scene is bright enough that the telephoto lens will be used when you click on the x2 icon. If you take the picture indoors, even with artificial light, the phone sees the you get a better picture from the main lens so it uses that instead, and then crops the picture to get the zoom effect.
Look at the pictures attached. That's the same shot from the main and zoom lens. In low light, the zoom lens has worse image quality, with increased graininess from pumping up the ISO and a lot more blur from having to keep the shutter open longer to get more light in
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Whenever I am recording video it seems to be constantly going in and out of focus. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
Care to expand so we can help?
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You couldn't ask both your questions in one thread? Post some examples.
I'm not sure what else to say besides it oscillates constantly, meaning fractions of a second.
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You couldn't ask both your questions in one thread? Post some examples.
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I don't think they should be in the same thread because they are different issues. Perhaps they are related, but then it would be do to a hardware issue.
What's the preferred means of posting examples?
If your having problems with both stills and videos, then it is likely related. You can attach jpg files to your post. You can upload vids to YouTube and post the links here.
Here are a few example shots.
The 1st shot is with the camera settings at default. The 2nd shot has anti-shake on. The 3rd shot has auto-contrast enabled.
As you can see they are all grainy and blurry even though I'm taking an image of something that is not moving.
The light produced from an overhead halogen. However, the pictures turn out similar under standard incandescent, fluorescent, or any other non-natural lighting. Also I tried out several other settings without any improvement (e.g. setting white balance to incandescent, setting the scene to party indoor, using macro focus instead of auto, etc.).
That's sensor grain. It happens when there is insufficient light as the sensor has to work harder to expose the scene and it heats up. Also, since the scene is so dim the camera is using a slower shutter speed, which results in some camera shake that causes a less sharp photo. Can you take a pic with the flash on? Also, if you are expecting Canon-level photography from this (or any cell phone camera) expect to be disappointed more often than not.
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That's sensor grain. It happens when there is insufficient light as the sensor has to work harder to expose the scene and it heats up. Also, since the scene is so dim the camera is using a slower shutter speed, which results in some camera shake that causes a less sharp photo. Can you take a pic with the flash on? Also, if you are expecting Canon-level photography from this (or any cell phone camera) expect to be disappointed more often than not.
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Cool, thanks so far. I will try it with the flash on. I have taken pictures in a lot of indoor light and if anything is moving the whole image is blurry. Sometimes it looks like the air is shimmering.
Perhaps what I need to do is to use something other than auto ISO?
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Cool, thanks so far. I will try it with the flash on. I have taken pictures in a lot of indoor light and if anything is moving the whole image is blurry. Sometimes it looks like the air is shimmering.
Perhaps what I need to do is to use something other than auto ISO?
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Nope, just like Miami_Son said, auto flash will make the difference. That or bright enough lighting. Try it during the day time.
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Like I said, in low light the camera will pick a slower shutter speed, which causes camera shake and blur of anything moving. What seems well lit to the eye is different for a camera sensor. Either use flash or turn on more lights. You can try turning up the ISO, but that can also increase grain.
Record video in 720p and the autofocus issues should go away.
Hello,
i take photos from the night sky since serveral years (with smartphones too).
Unfortunately with the Samsung S9plus the stars are not pinpoint like as they are on the Samsung S7. They apear very distorted with a kind of a halo.
Ofcourse the smartphone was not moved during 10 seconds of exposure time.
I did layed it down and used the self timer mode to prevent shaking.
I tried it serveral days in comparison with the Samung S7.
The S7 is always much better and show pinpoint like stars.
The distortion of the stars is visible in the RAW files(DNG) too so no jpeg problem forced by the compression.
Could you reproduce the same problems?
I am not allowed to post links.So how to show you the photo?
Could send you the link of the uploaded photos for comparison.
The dual camera variants of Samsung phones tend to overexpose shots, especially during darker environment.
That's what I noticed, and I'm waiting for the update they sent to Note 9s.
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-update-camera-improvements/
Are you using the telephoto camera? It has OIS driven by digital gyroscopes. Those gyroscopes aren't effective at low frequencies so the OIS will slowly drift around a small amount. 1/5 second is usually the limit for sharp photos. Even when the gyroscopes are turned off, OIS lenses are VERY sensitive to motion because of the lens being on a soft suspension. Walking next to the tripod could wobble the lens.
You also can't expect clear images if you use F/1.5.
Try using the wide angle lens.
I would send a photo to someone of you so you can post it here into the Tread.
Who like to do it?
The camera was layed down on the ground so no shaking or vibration ppossible during the exposure time.
I found no setting that the OIS gyroscope is working in photo mode. OIS is probably only working in video modes.
Even if it works in photo mode, the camera was layed down, so no shaking could happen.
Who of you could make a photo from the stars with the following settings?
Pro Mode
Camera mounted or layed on the ground with direction to the night sky.
Self timer to prevent shaking
Iso 800
10sec shutter speed
F 1.4
kevinmcmurtrie said:
Are you using the telephoto camera? It has OIS driven by digital gyroscopes. Those gyroscopes aren't effective at low frequencies so the OIS will slowly drift around a small amount. 1/5 second is usually the limit for sharp photos. Even when the gyroscopes are turned off, OIS lenses are VERY sensitive to motion because of the lens being on a soft suspension. Walking next to the tripod could wobble the lens.
You also can't expect clear images if you use F/1.5.
Try using the wide angle lens.
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Antwort unfortunately the tele lens only works in very good light conditions.
Even in a bright lighted room there is no way to activate the real Tele lens. The camera automatic switch to digital Zoom.
Also in pro mode its not possible to use the telephoto lens if the light condirions are not perfect.
This is very bad because if the cameras is standing still completely and the object doesn't move why not using the Tele camera lens in pro mode?
Very interesting Thanks for the link
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The dual camera variants of Samsung phones tend to overexpose shots, especially during darker environment.
That's what I noticed, and I'm waiting for the update they sent to Note 9s.
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-update-camera-improvements/
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S9 plus Someone able to shoot a photo from the stars/nightsky?
Hello,
just like to ask if someone here are able to shoot a photo from the stars with the Samsung S9 plus by using the following settings:
Please post your photo here to compare it with my one.
Pro Mode
Iso 800
Shutter 10seconds
F 1.4
Selftimer to prevent shaking
Camera on a tripod or layed on the ground
Thanks
This is with AI turned off:
When you choose to use the 40m resolution in camera setting, it removes the ability to use the 20m wideangle camera.
Example, if i want to take a wideangle photo, i have to go into settings, set the camera to 10m and then "zoom" out to get the 20m(!) wideangle camera.
How is this logic?
did you notice when swithcing to the 10mp setting and want to switch back tovthe 40mp setting, the settting isnt there anymore?!? you have to close the app and swioe away in multitask menu
It's probably because the wide angle lens is the 20mp camera. The main one is 40mp.
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It's probably because the wide angle lens is the 20mp camera. The main one is 40mp.
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I know, that but thats not the issue here.
One more time:
When you have the main camera on 10mp you get the ability to change to the 20mb wide angle camera. Using the slider on the right side.
But when you have the main camera on 40mb, you are no longer able to change to the wide angle camera. I understand why zoom is removed but not the switch to the wide angle camera wich is another camera anyway
Why is that?
Because with 40mp you are limited to one lens and one sensor. 10mp option utilizes all lenses and sensors as they have 40,20 and 8 MP accordingly, so 10MO is an interpolated resolution.
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Because with 40mp you are limited to one lens and one sensor. 10mp option utilizes all lenses and sensors as they have 40,20 and 8 MP accordingly, so 10MO is an interpolated resolution.
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But still, it should be a button to switch to make it easier. Or a wide angle option in the camera modes (night, portrait, pro, wide angle ect.)
Well, you have the button. It's called settings. Just leave it at default if you don't know how it works maybe ?
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Well, you have the button. It's called settings. Just leave it at default if you don't know how it works maybe
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No need to be rude here. Good for you if you are happy with 10 mp, but for us who wants to use the full potensial of the camera are stuck with a 4-step operation just to make the wide angle work.
That just seem unnecessary.
if you want to use the "full potential" of the camera you would leave it at 10MP and not put it to 40MP.... that's called making use of all available pixels.....
besides you'd be better off asking Huawei tech support about it instead of shooting down everyone else's answers and opinions here.............
me.... i'm more annoyed by the fact that 1080p60 video recording is weirdly zoomed.......
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No need to be rude here. Good for you if you are happy with 10 mp, but for us who wants to use the full potensial of the camera are stuck with a 4-step operation just to make the wide angle work.
That just seem unnecessary.
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Nobody is being rude. It's good to have a perspective. And you are not stuck at 4 step operation. Just leave it as is. You won't have 40mp wide angle as there in no 40mp sensor with wide angle lens, hope that is clear by now.
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if you want to use the "full potential" of the camera you would leave it at 10MP and not put it to 40MP.... that's called making use of all available pixels.....
besides you'd be better off asking Huawei tech support about it instead of shooting down everyone else's answers and opinions here.............
me.... i'm more annoyed by the fact that 1080p60 video recording is weirdly zoomed.......
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No. Full potential would be having the camera switch between the main 40mp lens, the 20mp wide angle and the 8mp zoom lens.
But the software does not give us this option unless you set the 40mp camera to 10 mp. Thats not making use of all available pixels.
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Nobody is being rude. It's good to have a perspective. And you are not stuck at 4 step operation. Just leave it as is. You won't have 40mp wide angle as there in no 40mp sensor with wide angle lens, hope that is clear by now.
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Please read the thread properly. I never said 40 mp wide angle:
"When you choose to use the 40m resolution in camera setting, it removes the ability to use the 20m wideangle camera. "
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Please read the thread properly. I never said 40 mp wide angle:
"When you choose to use the 40m resolution in camera setting, it removes the ability to use the 20m wideangle camera. "
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I read it properly. And replied. When you use the 40 MP sensor you can use only 40MP sensor. Not wide angle, not zoom, but the main one. Hope that's understandable. When you choose 10MP resolution, you can use all three. Quite frankly for me. And most of the users. Just leave it. Really.
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Please read the thread properly. I never said 40 mp wide angle:
"When you choose to use the 40m resolution in camera setting, it removes the ability to use the 20m wideangle camera. "
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I read it properly. And replied. When you use the 40 MP sensor you can use only 40MP sensor. Not wide angle, not zoom, but the main one. Hope that's understandable. When you choose 10MP resolution, you can use all three. Quite frankly for me. And most of the users. Just leave it. Really.
BTW, you don't loose anything. 20MP option was never there.
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Nobody is being rude. It's good to have a perspective. And you are not stuck at 4 step operation. Just leave it as is. You won't have 40mp wide angle as there in no 40mp sensor with wide angle lens, hope that is clear by now.
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Look up "snide" in the dictionary and find your name there buddy (see how I used the emoji to deflect any hostile response there?)
40mp option is there for a reason. When you have plenty of light and don't need pixel-binning to get a clean image, 40mp gives you way more flexibility when editing. Just because some people don't know how to use their phones to take a great photo without all the software helping doesn't mean others can't.
P.S.: There's a whole thread where people complain about what's wrong with the phone (and the OS). This probably belongs there too.
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Look up "snide" in the dictionary and find your name there buddy (see how I used the emoji to deflect any hostile response there?)
40mp option is there for a reason. When you have plenty of light and don't need pixel-binning to get a clean image, 40mp gives you way more flexibility when editing. Just because some people don't know how to use their phones to take a great photo without all the software helping doesn't mean others can't.
P.S.: There's a whole thread where people complain about what's wrong with the phone (and the OS). This probably belongs there too.
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Wow, what a response. Don't really understand what snide means do you? Emoji is there for a reason. The response was not hostile, but was given number of times, maybe the OP should post the problems in the thread you mention or report the issue to Huawei support? There is simply no solution for us to help the OP...
I'd rather have the max resolution for each lens in the camera to unleash the maximum quality of the taken picture... The Huawei Camera software is currently kinda stupid as it limits the potential to do any quick changes.
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I'd rather have the max resolution for each lens in the camera to unleash the maximum quality of the taken picture... The Huawei Camera software is currently kinda stupid as it limits the potential to do any quick changes.
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If you know what you're doing, you don't need to quickly change modes. Just manage your settings throughout the day.
what about tasker or some app that makes a shortcut to the 40 mp setting. with this it should be one press to swtich between the modes? someone tried that?
Lol long story short, to answer the op. 40 MP is a lot right. The isp can only handle so much data. When you're in normal 10mp mode the isp is still using data from the other 2 camera. For example. When you're in the dark and you zoom in it will not use the tele lens because it can see that the image isn't good enough. When you're using the full 40 MP there's simply not enough head room to sample any frames from the other camera. It's not a bug or an issue. It's just a limitation of the hardware
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Lol long story short, to answer the op. 40 MP is a lot right. The isp can only handle so much data. When you're in normal 10mp mode the isp is still using data from the other 2 camera. For example. When you're in the dark and you zoom in it will not use the tele lens because it can see that the image isn't good enough. When you're using the full 40 MP there's simply not enough head room to sample any frames from the other camera. It's not a bug or an issue. It's just a limitation of the hardware
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This is not about zooming.
Short: I just want to be able to switch to the 20 mp wide angle camera when I have 40mp in the main camera.
Just a button replacing "go into settings > resolution > change to 10 mp > exit resolution > exit setting > zoom(!?) out"
I have suggested to Huawei to at least add a "wide angle" option you can download in "more" menu.
If you agree, let Huawei know and hopefully we will see a update on this.
I first noticed that my optical x3 photos had a fair bit of digital noise to them.
I then tried pinching to change the zoom and I couldn't see any transition between the lenses when going from 2.9x to 3x. You should be able to clearly see the transition between 0.9x and 1x
After covering up all the lenses one by one with my finger and changing the zoom level, I can see that the x3 view (which should be using the bottom left lens, as you are looking at the back of the phone) is only blocked when I cover up the standard lens (top right)
Can anybody else verify this? Is this some strange intentional behaviour or a bug?
Confirmed on my device too as a bug when viewing the screen.
However, if I try taking a photo the camera switches to the 3rd sensor to actually take a photo.
Must be a new 'improved feature'.
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Rodpad said:
I then tried pinching to change the zoom and I couldn't see any transition between the lenses when going from 2.9x to 3x. You should be able to clearly see the transition between 0.9x and 1x
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IMHO I suppose it's so by design, to allow the user for a smooth zooming experience, and it can be considered a bug only as far as the correct lenses are not used to take the final picture.
I think it's to do with the minimum focus distance to be honest. If you're trying to focus on something far away it will switch but something close it will switch back.
I think, the camera changes at zoom 3x if there is enough light, otherwise it will use the main sensor. I tested this by holding the camera on TV and on my low board, the room was dark.
Hi,
Quite a simple question, why can I not turn soft snap off on the stock camera app?
When taking a selfie, regardless of camera settings, the app keeps trying to apply "soft snap" to the pictures? Is this a bug? Why won't it turn off with the toggle in the settings (soft skin effect)?, Or is that another "filter" again? Why can't things be left as they are :laugh:
Also I'm incredibly surprised at how laggy and slow the shutter is to take pictures from the pressing of the button; I've a first gen Pixel XL which is still in use and it's MUCH faster for a nearly 4 year old phone.
Hello!
Deactivating soft skin in parameter do work for me. I just checked since I never use front cam to make portrait since you'll always be distorted by a wide angle camera from 50cm away.
Anyway, here is a crop I just did, you can easily see small hairs and skin detail : http://imgur.com/a/nrsSLUr
The crop is like +200% on a ok quality selfy, so yeah, quality is not best. But then again, that's just a selfy cam.
No lag for me from the dedicated photo button. Just the normal double step button to first focus then take the photo. Be sure to press all the way down. Sorry that you encounter so many issue with your device :/ xperia 1 has some flaws, but that's more like no possibility to go manual mode with x2 or ultra wide angle, fingerprint working only 75 to 90% of the time and white bala'ce can be off in colored low light.
Hildr said:
Hello!
Deactivating soft skin in parameter do work for me. I just checked since I never use front cam to make portrait since you'll always be distorted by a wide angle camera from 50cm away.
Anyway, here is a crop I just did, you can easily see small hairs and skin detail : http://imgur.com/a/nrsSLUr
The crop is like +200% on a ok quality selfy, so yeah, quality is not best. But then again, that's just a selfy cam.
No lag for me from the dedicated photo button. Just the normal double step button to first focus then take the photo. Be sure to press all the way down. Sorry that you encounter so many issue with your device :/ xperia 1 has some flaws, but that's more like no possibility to go manual mode with x2 or ultra wide angle, fingerprint working only 75 to 90% of the time and white bala'ce can be off in colored low light.
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I've uploaded screenshots of the softsnap https://photos.app.goo.gl/5aanRvhRoC8tAA646
I'm not too worried about the quality, but wish it wouldn't keep trying to soften my pictures with a silly filter!
Yeah, understand the two stages of the button press, but do you get lag with the software button though, I know i do? It's such a shame, for years of "improvements" on a phone, it's hasn't advanced much from my first gen pixel
Ho! You are right, sorry, I'm so not used to selfie cam I didn't even checked this.
Yeah, the AI enhancement can't be deactivated in auto mode, and that's somewhat silly (the same kind of silly than not having manual mode onx2 and wide lens).
The workaround is to switch to manual mode (once selected, the manual mode stay as a quick one press button, so it's not that boring) and let all the parameter on auto. You'll have an auto mode with no AI enhancement. Then again, for quality selfie, I would recommend using the x2 lens (but you will get the AI enhancement) or the x1 (in manual but need a crop) with eye autofocus and smile detection to take a self portrait, it will be less distorted since taken for an arm length, but that's just my 2 cents . The eye autofocus while ensure a good focus and the smile detection while take the photo for you. But you will not see yourself during the process so it takes multiple attempt. But result is far better. That goes for every phone in fact, but eye focus is a wonder here!
I don't think the AI enhancement work with tiers party app so video call should be ok.
I thought you were talking about the physical button. I don't really know, for me it's like 0.2sec or something like that, I can't even think of a quicker camera, especially with the focus being done at the moment of the press. It gives me the same speed feel as a dedicated camera with a shutter. Are other phone quicker? It didn't shocked me when I tried P30Pro or Oppo Reno 10X, they felt all the same for me.