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Did anyone expect the development cycle to take so long for a public release?
Where is the dedicated hardware?
Have they changed too much from the original UX promised?
Since Ubuntu Touch was announced many things have changed and many, many months have gone by. How many version updates for Android and iOS? Firefox OS made it to market, Jolla's Sailfish made it to market, Samsung dithering around with Tizen is the only thing taking longer than Ubuntu Touch. Heck, OpenMobile finally delivered an Android Compatibility Layer for HP Touchpad running webOS for crying out loud. And Nokia released an Android phone; so Hell has already Frozen Over!!!!!
What gives?
How do you people feel about the loooooong wait for maturity of this OS?
I first tried and got excited about when I had a nexus 4. Which I sold as soon as the nexus 5 came out. I pledge for a couple Ubuntu edges. Remember that?! It seemed like they were on track to release something in a decent timeframe.
I would still put money down to try out a phone released with Ubuntu touch if it has great hardware.
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One last question.
Does this poll have too many choices?
Seriously though, you might want to read this.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
Does this poll have too many choices?
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*shrug* How many polls do you see on forums where respondents complain about too few choices? I merely tried to estimate the possible moods engendered by the question.
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Seriously though, you might want to read this.
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Read it when it came out. Read all the tech press, blog post, forum thread, official wiki stuff. Scoured the web. Flashed and flashed and flashed and flashed and flashed and finally was able to update and update and update and update and update...
The point is - Doesn't matter how many people say 's'wonderful, 's'marvelous IF IT NEVER MAKES IT TO MARKET in almost 18 months. People walk away. There is patience and refining. Then again there is just fiddling along and wasting people's time.
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The point is - Doesn't matter how many people say 's'wonderful, 's'marvelous IF IT NEVER MAKES IT TO MARKET in almost 18 months. People walk away. There is patience and refining. Then again there is just fiddling along and wasting people's time.
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It sounds like you've already made up your mind. I just leave it installed on my Nexus 4 and start it up every couple of days to check for updates and review the progress.
I'm sure some phone manufacturer will put their toe in the water sometime soon, and as long as Canonical continues to support the Nexus models that's a pretty good base for potential users. End users will choose Ubuntu Touch because it came with their device or they like the capabilities and won't be concerned about its history.
ramjet73
Um... ramjet? Looks like you didn't vote?
All respondents voted yes, in some way, that it took too long... Maybe you should put in the first "no" vote?
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Um... ramjet? Looks like you didn't vote?
All respondents voted yes, in some way, that it took too long... Maybe you should put in the first "no" vote?
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You got it, although my preferred response would probably have been more like "No - It's not dead yet so let's see what happens", but please don't add it.
LOL.
ramjet73
no...but
Since none of the multiple choice answers accurately reflect my opinion, I'll give my own. No, canonical didn't wait to long, but they should focus on developing a kernel that supports hardware for a wider variety of mobile devices, a unified bootloader for smart phones and tablets, and usb installation.
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Since none of the multiple choice answers accurately reflect my opinion, I'll give my own. No, canonical didn't wait to long, but they should focus on developing a kernel that supports hardware for a wider variety of mobile devices, a unified bootloader for smart phones and tablets, and usb installation.
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I'd put that as a "No - I still have faith, a public release is close."
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I'd put that as a "No - I still have faith, a public release is close."
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It is just that I don't believe in faith, and I don't know for sure if a public release is close. But nevertheless, If a release comes out I'll definitely try it. Better late than never.
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Some of you know me. Most of you don't. I don't know what weight, if any, what I have to say will carry.
Nonetheless, I do hope you read this and can appreciate my point of view.
Some background.. My first Android phone was the heroc, and since I bought it eons after initial release, it was already rooted and several alternative ROMs were available, including a still maturing CM 6.x. My second Android phone was the Evo 4G, again bought some time after its release, and root and CM were already available and improving day by day. In both cases, we had phones with relatively easy to defeat bootloader protection.
HTC learned from this. They knew that a system as vulnerable as that was a fairly easy target for those that wanted to do harm. Their engineering choices for the next series of devices was pretty much set in stone: They had to protect their phones from exploitation. Hence we see the shift to eMMC and other technologies to do just that.
How did the masses respond? Well, they didn't give a crap. It was just a miniscule subset of buyers of the new Evo 3D that started *****ing and whining because they couldn't easily bypass their enhanced protection.
After a rather ugly spat of "unlock or we walk" campaigning on their Facebook wall, they promised to unlock the bootloader. A promise I am confident they will keep, if on their terms.
So that we don't lose perspective here, understand that this was a response to a VERY SMALL (albeit vocal) fraction of people that have already purchased or will eventually purchase the phone.
To rephrase: The vast majority of people that buy this phone will never even consider running anything besides what HTC officially releases as an OTA update. It won't even occur to them to do otherwise.
The current stock ROM is not perfect by any means. But then again, when has it ever been that an initial release has been perfect?
Over the course of the next few months, HTC will hopefully work out the majority of the issues (and I am confident that they will, at least from the perspective of the regular user) and, quite frankly, that SHOULD be their focus.
Cue the whining facebook posters, threatening to return their device if HTC does not make unlocking the bootloader their top priority. Hate to break it to you, but they won't, and shouldn't, do that.
You know what? I really hope you return your phones if you don't get what you want. I hope you pout and stomp your feet in the process and bahave like some self-entitled jackass as well. This isn't just about you. It's about the entire customer base, and most of them just hope you will shut the **** up. To be honest, I am one of them.
When HTC does the smart thing, and unlocks the bootloader when they are as certain as they can be that doing so won't endanger the folks that won't take advantage of it in the first place, I'll get my AOSP, and my overclocked CPU, and my tasker and my titanium backup and all the other cool things that come with a rooted phone. And I will get them when having them doesn't put everyone else at risk.
They have a lot of bugs to fix. Some of them are quite annoying. Some of them (re: temproot) are flat out dangerous.
As much as I love and support the people putting countless hours into the root process (and I am actually wondering who gets there first, HTC or the devs) given what I have seen in the dev threads, I am leaning more and more towards waiting to see what HTC comes up with, then proceeding from there. They might not admit it, but I bet the devs are secretly doing the same.
Chill out, good things are coming
I heavily disagree.
I think the mass amount of emails sent to HTC regarding the bootloaders got through to HTC. No one wants to spend endless days responding to the same question over and over so they gave us an ETA (since that's exactly what a majority if their emails consisted of, an ETA request.) This, to me, shows that HTC noticed our presence and also showed how large our comminuty really is. Dissatisfied customers = money lost.
Holy Wall of text not bothering to read that mess... But +1. To whatever point your trying to make
3D > iClone
Wait, temproot is dangerous? how?
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Jeremiah239 said:
Wait, temproot is dangerous? how?
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It's not. Everything is back to stock upon a reboot.
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It's not. Everything is back to stock upon a reboot.
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OK good I thought I was loosing it lol.
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I think its more so they listened because we're the kind of people who really push their phones around to other people. They constantly ask us what phones are good and such. We may be a minority but we sure do influence the other half of the consumers who don't care.
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I heavily disagree.
I think the mass amount of emails sent to HTC regarding the bootloaders got through to HTC. No one wants to spend endless days responding to the same question over and over so they gave us an ETA (since that's exactly what a majority if their emails consisted of, an ETA request.) This, to me, shows that HTC noticed our presence and also showed how large our comminuty really is. Dissatisfied customers = money lost.
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We made our point, they agreed to unlock. Do you really think continuing to harrass them is going to get it done faster?
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When HTC does the smart thing, and unlocks the bootloader when they are as certain as they can be that doing so won't endanger the folks that won't take advantage of it in the first place, I'll get my AOSP, and my overclocked CPU, and my tasker and my titanium backup and all the other cool things that come with a rooted phone. And I will get them when having them doesn't put everyone else at risk.
Chill out, good things are coming
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I'm not disagreeing with you or mean this in a condescending way, I'm just wondering because I'm curious. How would this put people at risk/danger?
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We made our point, they agreed to unlock. Do you really think continuing to harrass them is going to get it done faster?
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My statement stands prior to the minorities bombarding their walls now. They've responded and have given an ETA. Anyone that wants to try to push them into releasing quicker, they should just understand it's the best option for now until Sprint releases the SGSII (which probably wont even be until next year.) So just stick with it and hang in there.
I will say I'd prefer it sooner but I think their ETA was made to be the latest date they could prolong the issue.
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Wait, temproot is dangerous? how?
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As we use it its not. That it can be done means there is an exploit that might be used for more nefarious purposes. Read the posts on it, they have reported it to HTC as such.
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I heavily disagree.
I think the mass amount of emails sent to HTC regarding the bootloaders got through to HTC. No one wants to spend endless days responding to the same question over and over so they gave us an ETA (since that's exactly what a majority if their emails consisted of, an ETA request.) This, to me, shows that HTC noticed our presence and also showed how large our comminuty really is. Dissatisfied customers = money lost.
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you also completely missed the point.
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It's not. Everything is back to stock upon a reboot.
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The nature of the exploit is indeed dangerous, and exploitable - hence having it in the first place.
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The nature of the exploit is indeed dangerous, and exploitable - hence having it in the first place.
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Yes, the exploit can be malicious in the wrong hands, but you stated temproot in the OP, which was misleading. I've read your OP and I've commented on it. I just want to ask, if we make up such a minority of unhappy buyers, then why do they find the need to put s-off in the first place?
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I'm not disagreeing with you or mean this in a condescending way, I'm just wondering because I'm curious. How would this put people at risk/danger?
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the exploit that gives us temp root is dangerous enough that those that discovered it have reported it to HTC.
Ranger093 said:
I think its more so they listened because we're the kind of people who really push their phones around to other people. They constantly ask us what phones are good and such. We may be a minority but we sure do influence the other half of the consumers who don't care.
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Not really, but if it makes you feel better to think otherwise, who am I to shatter that belief.
I agree With the Op
Don't get me wrong I haven't run a stock phones for a while... Windows mobile now android
But, I agree. Things always get done, it was going to get unlocked and indoor think some people got a little out of hand with the crying
Anyways, I'll wait till we get s-off to start my fun.. In the mean time I have other things to have fun with
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Yes, the exploit can be malicious in the wrong hands, but you stated temproot in the OP, which was misleading. I've read your OP and I've commented on it. I just want to ask, if we make up such a minority of unhappy buyers, then why do they find the need to put s-off in the first place?
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Its not misleading. the exploit is dangerous and will likely be fixed soon.
You assume they are giving us S-Off, which in the vernacular of what the 3vo is just doesnt make sense anyway. This isnt as simple as that.
They are probably going to make it so we can write to /system. I do not envision a scenario where we get the equivalent of S-Off, but I also dont see where they have to. this isnt the 4g.
Mayonesa said:
I agree With the Op
Don't get me wrong I haven't run a stock phones for a while... Windows mobile now android
But, I agree. Things always get done, it was going to get unlocked and indoor think some people got a little out of hand with the crying
Anyways, I'll wait till we get s-off to start my fun.. In the mean time I have other things to have fun with
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Its not that I think they wont get it done, but hammering them about it is getting old. I think they got our message long ago. Its going to happen. I dont see how hammering them relentlessly will get it done any faster.
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Some of you know me. Most of you don't. I don't know what weight, if any, what I have to say will carry.
<lots of useless nonsense/>
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Just saw this update across Facebook from HTC:
Thanks so much for providing feedback, we hear your concerns. Your satisfaction is a top priority for us and we're working hard to ensure you have great experiences with our phones. We're reviewing the issue and our policy around bootloaders and will provide more information soon. Thank you for your interest, support and willingness to share your feedback.
**UPDATE**
We’ve listened. Check out the statement from our CEO, Peter Chou on HTC bootloaders. Click the link for more info. http://on.fb.me/iZXgkR
**UPDATE 7/10**
We wanted to provide an update on HTC’s progress with bringing bootloader unlocking to our newest phones. We know how excited some of you are for this capability, and we’ve put significant resources behind making this change as soon as possible. While we wish we could flip a simple switch and unlock all bootloaders across our device portfolio, this is actually a complex challenge that requires a new software build and extensive testing to deliver the best possible customer experience.
We’re thrilled to announce today that software updates to support bootloader unlocking will begin rolling out in August for the global HTC Sensation, followed by the HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA and the HTC EVO 3D on Sprint. We’re in the testing phase for the unlocking capability now, and we expect it to be fully operational by early September for devices that have received the software updates. We'll continue rolling out the unlocking capability over time to other devices as part of maintenance releases and new shipments.
HTC continues its commitment to unlocking bootloaders and supporting the developer community. Because of the importance of this community to us, please expect an update on this about every few weeks as we make progress toward launch. Thank you for your patience and continued support!
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So I think basically that means they ARE making it a top priority, and it makes your rant irrelevant.
Is the GTAB dead (or more so the Android)? The development of new ROM's have slowed and the long wait for video drivers and the release of more code so we can run HoneyComb one has to wonder. The very thing that makes Android product so great begs the question to be asked. It makes one wonder why a supposed open source code appears to be the held from it's users. The day of Android may have peaked too early with the stagnation of it's OS and failed promises. I have never been an Apple fan, but they do work and well. It has made me wonder if it is time for a change.
I don't think its Google withholding the source. It is the manufacturer of the product/device that dictates how long their product/device will be supported. Viewsonic would need to work on getting it working or ported to the G-Tablet and release the drivers etc needed to for devs here to work or create custom roms. So far the only way to do it is to build it from scratch.
I don't know much about development, so I apologize if I am incorrect as to the process steps. Don't give in to Apple though. All of their stuff is overpriced crap that gets replaced the next year or less than a year later, then they expect you to pay for the newer product to get their newer features. They haven't even released a 4G device or try to rework with Adobe for flash support. If you look at Android devices, popular manufacturers try to emphasize on releasing hardware that is ahead of its time, they won't make your device obsolete by the end of the year.
Afaik development is still going. This thread keeps updates with the status on having a properly working honeycomb kernel. last updated a few days ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1231577
And the Flashback team has Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms that they update regularly, Caulkin/Clemsyn updated their rom to v7, and there is Cyanogenmod for GTab, so no, not dead.
I am running Flashback 9 (released last night), while eagerly awaiting the GTab Kerneldev team to finish their port of the 2.6.36 kernel so native Honeycomb 3.2 should run.
Plus if Google holds true to their words, Ice Cream Sandwich source should be released about a month after the Galaxy Nexus, and I imagine Cyanogenmod will shift to that.
There's a heck of a lot more going on for the GTab than for the stupid HP Touchpad I bought for $149 (I got 32mb version), although Cyanogen team says it'll be out for Touchpad in a few weeks...
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Is the GTAB dead (or more so the Android)? The development of new ROM's have slowed and the long wait for video drivers and the release of more code so we can run HoneyComb one has to wonder. The very thing that makes Android product so great begs the question to be asked. It makes one wonder why a supposed open source code appears to be the held from it's users. The day of Android may have peaked too early with the stagnation of it's OS and failed promises. I have never been an Apple fan, but they do work and well. It has made me wonder if it is time for a change.
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Excuse me for asking, but what in the world is a person doing on the XDA developers forum talking about development being stalled? And, to make it even worse, why would you go in the direction of the most locked up system in history?
If you are unhappy with the speed of development, then get going and do it! And, if you want the simplicity of a toaster and only want to make toast, then, by all means buy an apple product.
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Excuse me for asking, but what in the world is a person doing on the XDA developers forum talking about development being stalled? And, to make it even worse, why would you go in the direction of the most locked up system in history?
If you are unhappy with the speed of development, then get going and do it! And, if you want the simplicity of a toaster and only want to make toast, then, by all means buy an apple product.
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Dude chill out, it was just a question. This is a forum is it not? Open for discussion. I appreciate all that the DEV's are doing.
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And, if you want the simplicity of a toaster and only want to make toast, then, by all means buy an apple product.
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Rofl, no RIP to Mr Jobs?
As far as I know Honeycomb source was not released by Google because they knew it was not ready (unstable). I read that statement somwhere. That's the reason we now have ICS (well, almost have)
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Just when I think the same, a slew of new roms/updates emerge. Of course as new tabs are released, work on the old ones start to diminish.
I just loaded the lastest beasty rom and it's great. Tried several HC roms and like the layout, but too many issues to date.
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And, if you want the simplicity of a toaster and only want to make toast, then, by all means buy an apple product.
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It's fanboy answers like that, which do nothing for the Android argument.
Let's not be ignorant here, Apple makes great products and their software/development is tight.
But anyway, let's stay on topic. Like everyone else said, the G Tablet is far from dead. I just started using C+C this weekend and its amazingly fast! It has breathed new life into my G Tablet , especially with Skype working.
Check this article out: LINK this is exactly what I was trying to talk about... it's not necessarily my option, but the way a lot of people are feeling.
That's the way a pseudo tech journalist who is a closet Apple fan feels about a buzzword using data that's out of date.
Here's a counter.
http://www.androidcentral.com/dear-molly-rants-lets-talk-about-android-fragmentation
No more CMXX for Tegra 2, at the very least not officially. This is due to the lack of Neon support on our chips. Just wanted to let erybody know.
If some one want to read it:
https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/8wcuSVkr7zR
Well, it's not exactly that. CM10.1 doesn't have anything with NEON, but the keyboard, and it's easy replaceable.
But, as they suguess, probably, we won't get anything beyond CM10.1 - At least working at 100%.
It's a sad notice in did. But we will have Atrix for a while. Don't get upset. .
EDIT: If you read the comments, they said that maybe it's posible to emulate NEON instruction set. That might kill some RAM and CPU/GPU power, but if worth it, worth it. .
Well, since there are no official CM releases for the Atrix beyond CM7, I don't see how this is relevant. Besides, it's the Gapps that will explicitly require NEON support (for now). If KLP runs using the current Gapps, then we're in the clear. If not, well, this phone is getting to its 3rd year. That's, like, ancient in the tech world. And JB already brought a massive amount of improvement over Froyo anyway. Sticking to CM10.1 isn't such a bad idea, methinks.
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Well, since there are no official CM releases for the Atrix beyond CM7, I don't see how this is relevant. Besides, it's the Gapps that will explicitly require NEON support (for now). If KLP runs using the current Gapps, then we're in the clear. If not, well, this phone is getting to its 3rd year. That's, like, ancient in the tech world. And JB already brought a massive amount of improvement over Froyo anyway. Sticking to CM10.1 isn't such a bad idea, methinks.
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I didn't mean to come off as complaining. And I think it is relevant because this is a Tegra 2 device, one that soon could earn official CM releases since we'll have an appropriate kernel. Just wanted to share some news. All I care about is PlayStore and GMail myself, so not a huge loss here.
EDIT this is general. Why WAS THIS MMOOOVED?!
Nah but seriously.
I agree with quetzalcoatl2435, this is a 3 years old device, and ok, some of us have get the device late, maybe less than a year ago, but still a old device.
But, even that way, even if we stick to 4.2 - There is some hugh progress about that. Android 4.2 is like Android as it should have been always.
Plus, if you can notice, Google is moving to release the system apps in Google Play, it start with Keyboard, but I keep hoping they release Contacts, because it's the best contacts app.
Yeah, you could miss something, we are not losing, we won already. We won because we are a community, and we could made it beyond what motorola said that we could.
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I agree with quetzalcoatl2435, this is a 3 years old device, and ok, some of us have get the device late, maybe less than a year ago, but still a old device.
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I wish I knew why people keep saying it's a 3 year old phone. It's not even two and a half years old yet in the US, and barely a tick over 2 years old in the UK.
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I don't think it matters how old it is period. 1) That wasn't the point of the thread, it was to share the news. and 2) If it can run future versions, it can run future versions. Time is not a huge factor.
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I don't think it matters how old it is period. 1) That wasn't the point of the thread, it was to share the news. and 2) If it can run future versions, it can run future versions. Time is not a huge factor.
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Exactly on all points, which is why seeing posts like that irritate me.
Huawei informed us last year that they'll be releasing Lollipop in the second quarter of 2015. 5 months and 3 days have already passed and if wasn't for a glimpse they provided some months ago, I would have found it difficult that our HAM2 will ever be updated.
I received my 1+1 about a month ago and tried Lollipop on it. I am not particularly impressed by Lollipop. I had to reinstall kitkat. Lollipop is over-simplified and has lots of white.
Clearly, Huawei is slow at deploying Lollipop. That is true. It sounds like you really don't care though. You seem to prefer KitKat. Not sure why you started this thread.
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Clearly, Huawei is slow at deploying Lollipop. That is true. It sounds like you really don't care though. You seem to prefer KitKat. Not sure why you started this thread.
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Huawei had promised to release Kitkat. They retracted. Then they promised Lollipop. Even though I'm not a Lollipop fan, it provides the option of having the latest android OS on your phone. So, there's no harm in that.
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Huawei had promised to release Kitkat. They retracted. Then they promised Lollipop. Even though I'm not a Lollipop fan, it provides the option of having the latest android OS on your phone. So, there's no harm in that.
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I got ya. I agree. I am still hopeful they release Lollipop soon. They aren't the best at this kind of stuff though. Their track record is fairly poor related to supporting existing devices. I think they are trying to be better, though. Time will tell.
Android L is meant to be released on the Asian Mate 2's on July 2nd. I think it is unlikely that it will be released for the US version before this, but if it doesn't come out for you guys on the 2nd July, I would contact Huawei and moan like Hell. Unfortunately I have seen NOTHING about a release date for the MT2-L03.
I asked them on Instagram and got the usual "Thank you, we don't know anything, we'll tell you something when nothing does everything." kind of comment.
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Android L is meant to be released on the Asian Mate 2's on July 2nd. I think it is unlikely that it will be released for the US version before this, but if it doesn't come out for you guys on the 2nd July, I would contact Huawei and moan like Hell. Unfortunately I have seen NOTHING about a release date for the MT2-L03.
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The Asian HAM2 is a completely different phone internally, there is no reason to believe the development paths or release schedules would be in any way similar for both devices.
After over half a year of vague promises (and a worthless 'beta program' website) from Huawei USA I wouldn't expect an upgrade to Lollipop for the MT2-L03 - I honestly think they were just stringing everyone along and trying to quieten the uproar among HAM2 users that was happening at the time. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I bet I'm not.
In the meantime I'm still trucking along on my HAM2, but I am looking at possible replacements. Most notably the new Alcatel Idol 3 looks really really impressive for the price.
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The Asian HAM2 is a completely different phone internally, there is no reason to believe the development paths or release schedules would be in any way similar for both devices.
After over half a year of vague promises (and a worthless 'beta program' website) from Huawei USA I wouldn't expect an upgrade to Lollipop for the MT2-L03 - I honestly think they were just stringing everyone along and trying to quieten the uproar among HAM2 users that was happening at the time. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I bet I'm not.
In the meantime I'm still trucking along on my HAM2, but I am looking at possible replacements. Most notably the new Alcatel Idol 3 looks really really impressive for the price.
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Yes, thanks. I'm well aware that they have different hardware.
I said to moan as US customers were told an update would be released in the first quarter of the year..... That hasn't happened.
I'll get flamed again, but even if they did release an update, it would be hard for me to upgrade unless some feature of software took advantage of the update. 4.3 WORKS. Turn it on and use it, don't have to reboot it. Yes, if there are security bugs, that's one thing, but if your device works as delivered, I'm more of a leave it alone, new doesn't always mean better, just new type of person.
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I'll get flamed again, but even if they did release an update, it would be hard for me to upgrade unless some feature of software took advantage of the update. 4.3 WORKS. Turn it on and use it, don't have to reboot it. Yes, if there are security bugs, that's one thing, but if your device works as delivered, I'm more of a leave it alone, new doesn't always mean better, just new type of person.
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Man, the main theme of all your posts is "4.3 is GREAT". In fact, all your posts contain the same information in different wording. We have UNDERSTOOD your preference. I don't understand why you keep repeating it. Its a little bit tactless to be repeating the same post in every thread.
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Man, the main theme of all your posts is "4.3 is GREAT". In fact, all your posts contain the same information in different wording. We have UNDERSTOOD your preference. I don't understand why you keep repeating it. Its a little bit tactless to be repeating the same post in every thread.
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He said he'd get flamed. At least he wasn't disappointed.
There isn't a ton of activity in this forum so I think we can tolerate multiple posts from p51d007.
kimtyson said:
He said he'd get flamed. At least he wasn't disappointed.
There isn't a ton of activity in this forum so I think we can tolerate multiple posts from p51d007.
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Flame away...I was a volunteer 911 operator for over a dozen years...been flamed by the best of em. :good:
p51d007 said:
Flame away...I was a volunteer 911 operator for over a dozen years...been flamed by the best of em. :good:
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I've got the latest and greatest lollipop on my nexus 7, I've also got a rooted samsung s3 that has a custom ROM on it. But I must say this phone
the mate 2 is by far my favorite, the battery life is unreal, love the big bright screen. It may not be the latest and greatest but for me it is a great phone.
nate5711 said:
I've got the latest and greatest lollipop on my nexus 7, I've also got a rooted samsung s3 that has a custom ROM on it. But I must say this phone
the mate 2 is by far my favorite, the battery life is unreal, love the big bright screen. It may not be the latest and greatest but for me it is a great phone.
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I actually bought the 1+1 after reading rave reviews about it almost everywhere. I initially intended to keep the 1+1 and give my dad my HAM2. For some reason, the mate 2 was too good to give up. It has everything I want in a phone; large screen, very long battery life, fast, smooth transitions and most importantly it doesn't get hot like a stove. Anyway, at the end, I kept the HAM2 and gave my dad the 1+1. Seriously, I gave up the 1+1 with all its laudatory specs for the HAM2 and I have no regrets.
This phone's screen is too freaking big for me. I already have a tablet, don't need another one thanks. Unfortunately I can't afford to upgrade it right now so I'm stuck with it. And now Xposed broke so now I'm stuck with the ugly grey nav bar and enormous DPI. (EDIT: Nvm, I fixed that.) Seriously, why did Huawei artificially raise the DPI, the native 240 looks so much better than the stock 320, makes everything look much smaller and crisper and gives you more real estate.
I just want Lollipop. Then I'll see if it's worth keeping this phone or if I should make upgrading a priority.
At least the battery life is nice, but that's about all I can say is going for this phone, and I'm willing to bet in part that's because of the lower res (720p) screen.
I've been waiting for this phone almost a year now, and the $750 could have been put to good use elsewhere during this time. I just searched the web for information, and i see almost nothing, except from the company.
LineageOS does not list this device as supported. Ubuntu Touch remains a tinkering OS and also does not list this device. So, what is the status here at XDA? Will there be any support for this when (if) it comes out? Am I going to see an initial effort to have something, then see this area become a wasteland forever more? Is LineageOS committed to treat this as a first class, early update to new versions device, or are we all just screwed?
The $$$ is the real pain point for me. This is the first phone I believed might actually come out and be decent, and I made that decision based on XDA's involvement. Are you going to let us down, or make us proud?
Fortunately, I always went into this as an enthusiast who had no illusions about it becoming mainstream. I wanted to see if Ubuntu Touch could make the grade and so far it doesn't look like it will. My pixel 2xl and Pixel 6 will carry me for the daily drivers even if this dies. Still, I will not be in a good mood.
Regards,
Kenaz.
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I've been waiting for this phone almost a year now, and the $750 could have been put to good use elsewhere during this time. I just searched the web for information, and i see almost nothing, except from the company.
LineageOS does not list this device as supported. Ubuntu Touch remains a tinkering OS and also does not list this device. So, what is the status here at XDA? Will there be any support for this when (if) it comes out? Am I going to see an initial effort to have something, then see this area become a wasteland forever more? Is LineageOS committed to treat this as a first class, early update to new versions device, or are we all just screwed?
The $$$ is the real pain point for me. This is the first phone I believed might actually come out and be decent, and I made that decision based on XDA's involvement. Are you going to let us down, or make us proud?
Fortunately, I always went into this as an enthusiast who had no illusions about it becoming mainstream. I wanted to see if Ubuntu Touch could make the grade and so far it doesn't look like it will. My pixel 2xl and Pixel 6 will carry me for the daily drivers even if this dies. Still, I will not be in a good mood.
Regards,
Kenaz.
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Well, judging from the plethora of replies (by crickets) over the last week, I have to conclude we've been had. Great job, XDA!
At this point it is likely.
Swordfish II said:
At this point it is likely.
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And I still don't have the phone. At this point, I might as well unearth my Moto X 2013 and start using it again.