Lag causing temporary dead touch spots? - Verizon LG G3

Anyone else finding they sometimes can't click the back key or a settings menu button or some keys on the LG keyboard? I'm pretty sure it is just lag but want to get some other opinions. I'm pretty sure its lag because I can usually scroll the screen and it works again.
Edit:I'm going with software glitch. It now happens anywhere, probably always did, I've been using it a lot more. It is always the center of a button. I had it happen on buttons like the spacebar on the keyboard.
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It worked on the right side of it and left but not the middle. Then next time it worked correctly. Probably why i thought the keyboard had issues too...

workdowg said:
Anyone else finding they sometimes can't click the back key or a settings menu button or some keys on the LG keyboard? I'm pretty sure it is just lag but want to get some other opinions. I'm pretty sure its lag because I can usually scroll the screen and it works again.
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I don't have any lag nor this problem I think it's just your phone
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workdowg said:
Anyone else finding they sometimes can't click the back key or a settings menu button or some keys on the LG keyboard? I'm pretty sure it is just lag but want to get some other opinions. I'm pretty sure its lag because I can usually scroll the screen and it works again.
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Do u have a glass screen protector on? I have the Verizon glass screen protector and have spots that won't sense touch every now and then due to the thick screen protector. Other people are reporting the same issue as me. Didnt know if that was your issue. As far as typing on the KB it's fast and responsive.
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workdowg said:
Anyone else finding they sometimes can't click the back key or a settings menu button or some keys on the LG keyboard? I'm pretty sure it is just lag but want to get some other opinions. I'm pretty sure its lag because I can usually scroll the screen and it works again.
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If you don't have a glass screen protector possibly causing this.. Or even a regular film one even... I'd maybe get another G3 and tell them something is wrong.
Mine runs great. No lag and barely ever so I have an issue with my glass screen protector either actually
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INCREMENTAL said:
Do u have a glass screen protector on? I have the Verizon glass screen protector and have spots that won't sense touch every now and then due to the thick screen protector. Other people are reporting the same issue as me. Didnt know if that was your issue. As far as typing on the KB it's fast and responsive.
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Yes, yes I do. I've never had a glass protector before and that did cross my mind. They sent it to me because the "universal" ones that came with the package were about 10mm short. If it keeps up I'll make them send me the fitted plastic covers when they get them. Thanks!
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No problem, that's what is causing it then.
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workdowg said:
Yes, yes I do. I've never had a glass protector before and that did cross my mind. They sent it to me because the "universal" ones that came with the package were about 10mm short. If it keeps up I'll make them send me the fitted plastic covers when they get them. Thanks!
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Mine is a Zagg. Look into one of those. Little more money but well worth it if you ask me
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I have run into this a couple of times but its so rare that it happens. I have a zagg glass screen protector also but I don't think it has anything to do with that. I was going to experiment with a different launcher other then the LG launcher but it just doesn't happen often enough for me to say. I was thinking maybe its an app also or all the junk on my sdcard from my last phone. Im trying different things but its been days since Its happened to me.

It actually hasn't happened again since my last reboot... I'll be out all day today so it will get plenty of use and we will see how it goes.
It was weird though. I would try say the back button, no response. Immediatly recent menu to another app and it would work....

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I have been looking at that thread. I get about 40 hours with out tweaking now (well, I did debloat and freeze a ton...).

calebv2 said:
I don't have any lag nor this problem I think it's just your phone
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That seems a bold assertion considering a lot of users and reviews mention some lag as well. Given the nature of the display throttle design and if the display touch substrate is in power series with the throttling, there could be merit.
Were you joking? It is more than obvious there is some lag due to the 801 and the Qhd with some content and the UI. Not a lot, but is there. Ditto for a lot of Android devices due to all bloat that stock devices have. Lag loves Android bloat.
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Everything is relative though, so if someone had more lag on a previous device, the G3 will inherently be smoother

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That seems a bold assertion considering a lot of users and reviews mention some lag as well. Given the nature of the display throttle design and if the display touch substrate is in power series with the throttling, there could be merit.
Were you joking? It is more than obvious there is some lag due to the 801 and the Qhd with some content and the UI. Not a lot, but is there. Ditto for a lot of Android devices due to all bloat stock devices have. Lag loves Android bloat.
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No I'm not joking I don't have any lag

I have this happen as well from time to time. I have a Supacase Beetle Unicorn case on mine and has the built in screen protector. When I take it out, haven't had this issue once.

Also getting touch dead spots. It is definitely not the glass screen protector because i had this happened to me prior to installing one.
I think it is because of the phone getting to hot. Did you notice that when it happened? A quick screen off and on usually gets it working for me again, but definitely annoying. At some point, before the year is up, I will ask for an exchange.

oz1421 said:
Also getting touch dead spots. It is definitely not the glass screen protector because i had this happened to me prior to installing one.
I think it is because of the phone getting to hot. Did you notice that when it happened? A quick screen off and on usually gets it working for me again, but definitely annoying. At some point, before the year is up, I will ask for an exchange.
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Why not just Take it back now. Not everyone is having this issue. I know mine was due to my case with built in screen protector. Mine never gets overly hot though, so maybe it does do it if it's too hot. I don't know, I do know that if it was as bad as you say it is, I wouldn't wait no year. Just exchange it now.

No problems here with "stock screen protector"

My g3 and my girlfriends does it as well. Turning screen off then on fixes it. Maybe just a bug since it's the first software on here?
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JesseMT4G said:
Why not just Take it back now. Not everyone is having this issue. I know mine was due to my case with built in screen protector. Mine never gets overly hot though, so maybe it does do it if it's too hot. I don't know, I do know that if it was as bad as you say it is, I wouldn't wait no year. Just exchange it now.
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I only really notice it when playing certain games which isn't that often.
It is still to early to tell if it is hardware versus software and we all use our phones differently so these kind of things are hard to tell. I rather wait it out a bit. Plus already installed a tempered glass screen protector on it and those aren't cheap ...

oz1421 said:
I only really notice it when playing certain games which isn't that often.
It is still to early to tell if it is hardware versus software and we all use our phones differently so these kind of things are hard to tell. I rather wait it out a bit. Plus already installed a tempered glass screen protector on it and those aren't cheap ...
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It's probably your screen protector causing it.

I've been having the same problem as will. I suspected the screen protector. Then, I suspected the TouchPal keyboard. However, it started happening during gameplay. So, I'm lost on the flaw here. I am very surprised it doesn't affect me so much. I'm glad to see it's not just me, though.
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[Tips] Minor Defects to Check For Before Leaving Store or Before Your 30 Days Expire

If you are viewing this thread, hopefully you haven't bought the Evo 3d just yet or are still within your 30 days. I just wanted to share my experiences with the Evo 3D to help others avoid the headaches I have had with a few visual defects on some Evo 3d's and also an operational defect. I would recommend inspecting the phone for these things before you leave or before you'll be outside your 30 days and offered a refurb. I made the mistake of not looking things over at the store, and it took me 2 replacements to finally get a phone that didn't have these defects.
Please Note: I'm a very picky person, so I always check my new phones for defects and eye sores before I get to the point where I am unable to resolve the issue within 30 days. Some of the things that I have an issue with may not be a big deal for others. Many people are happy with their phone even with a minor defect, but I feel if it's brand new it should be the same quality as a brand new phone.
If your opinion differs on what matters and what doesn't, don't bother trying to debate. The purpose for this post is to help others spot minor defects that may be an eye sore for them personally.
Pin Hole Size White Dot near Capacitive Buttons
-While this may not be a big deal to some, I found it a rather annoying eye sore while using your phone in a dark room or when your bottom buttons are lit up.
-This shouldn't be too hard to spot, just make sure that your buttons are lit up. Usually you will have to cover the sensor along the top of the phone if you are not in a dark room to get the buttons to light up. See picture below for example.
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Dead Pixel's on Screen
-Once again just a minor defect that is common on LCD screens, but if you are watching a movie it can become rather noticeable.
-The easiest way I found to check for this is to install "Dead Pixel Test" from the market. This app will go through several solid color screens which will help you spot a dead pixel if there are any.
Power/Sleep Button Activates with a Minor Touch
-Could be a possible issue if the phone is in your pocked and button is activated, your phone may turn off and you wouldn't even know it.
-The button should have somewhat of a click to it when your press it. Try gently putting your finger on the button without much pressure, and see if the screen turns on/off.
Dust Particles Under Screen or Glass Covering Camera's
-May cause pictures to appear fuzzy if you have dust under the glass, and well the screen that's self explanatory.
-Could be difficult to spot, just look from multiple angles to spot any dust.
Red Trim That Surrounds Camera Glass is Lose [Reported by: mayfield103]
-Only have seen this mentioned a few times, but could be a big eyesore if it comes out. I would guess that this issue stems from the rear cover on the phone not being taken off carefully but check anyways.
3D/2D Toggle Button is Wobbly or Lose (Fairly Common Issue) [Reported by:dirkyd3rk and a few others]
-This is more so just annoying when the phone vibrates so does the button itself. Could be a problem in the future though if the button actually pops off from being slid back and forth a number of times.
-Easiest way to check for this would be to just slide the toggle, if it has give before fully locking into 3D or 2D then the button is probably faulty. You may get weird looks for this but if you shake the phone you can also hear it as well.
Screen is Slightly Tilted to Either Side [Reported by: DeMiNeO]
-"It's almost unnoticable if your not looking at it, but then drives you mad once you find it".
The Infamous "Light Bleed" Along Bottom and Slightly Up Sides of the Screen
-This has been reported and debated by quite a few people. Some say its light bleed, while others say the Capacitive buttons are just too bright. This just appears as a slight glow between the side of the screen and the frame of the phone along the bottom. Those who had the OG Evo know exactly what this looks like.
-If you have access to a decently dark room this shouldn't be hard to spot, wake the screen and look along the bottom edge of the screen.
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-"You can see if it effects you easily by looking at the upper right corner of your phone. If it looks tilted, you have the issue".
These issues seem to be isolated, so don't let this sway you from buying the phone. I am very satisfied with my phone I just wanted to provide a thread for such issues.
Hopefully this will help some people out and prevent multiple trips to the Sprint store for a replacement. As I said before, some may not care about these issues but if you notice the little things I would recommend checking for these defects. If I missed something else just post the issue and I will edit the OP.
Excellent tips thank you. I'm very picky also. I'm getting mine July 4th.
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Excellent tips thank you. I'm very picky also. I'm getting mine July 4th.
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No problem, most of these have been posted already in different places but just figured one thread would be a little easier to find instead of doing all the digging.
Only thing I noticed on mine is that dot u pointed out its a cosmetic thing not a defect more like a ant tit of a spot can't see it unless u rape your phone with your eyeball other that my phone zero issues no problem with pixles or leakinglight which people claim they have its not leaking just bright ass buttons .
2d3d button wobble slightly no issue no yellow tint either . I'm not picky unless you get white spots like the EVO had 2 months into the brandnew phone that sucks .
ITT: Why OCD people will get their phones replaced
Awesome! Thanks for posting. Also another thing I have noticed is a minuscule but noticeable small silver chip off the paint on the rim surrounding one of the dual lenses at the back. A couple of phones had it, MAKE SURE YOU verify that yours doesn't have it.
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Awesome! Thanks for posting. Also another thing I have noticed is a minuscule but noticeable small silver chip off the paint on the rim surrounding one of the dual lenses at the back. A couple of phones had it, MAKE SURE YOU verify that yours doesn't have it.
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Yea, i got that man. Boy was i mad when i got home because i changed out the original 3D i was going to get because the top of the screen had a bump and the battery cover had some kind of stuff stuck on it. I thought i checked it over good but to my suprise, low and behold that scratch on the rim of the camera lenses a couple hours later when i checked again.
OCD FTL.
The red ring around the camera on the battery door is Coming loose on mine I contacted HTC about a new battery cover they said to call back in a week because they didn't have any replacement parts yet.
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I have a stuck pixel (green) at the top left of the screen.
Sent via Evo 3D...mmmmm dual core.
Here I come with the wobbly 2d/3d button LOL. It's going to kill me if I don't return it before this week is up. Multiple people said they have it; I'm wondering if some users button is snug!
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Don't forget light bleed. Both of mine have it, one worse than the other.
Swyped from my Atari 2600 3D
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Here I come with the wobbly 2d/3d button LOL. It's going to kill me if I don't return it before this week is up. Multiple people said they have it; I'm wondering if some users button is snug!
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If I shake the phone I can here it kinda rattle. Lol, that hasn't bothered me, but I hear what you're saying. I've had some data gripes, but over all...AWESOME device!!
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If I shake the phone I can here it kinda rattle. Lol, that hasn't bothered me, but I hear what you're saying. I've had some data gripes, but over all...AWESOME device!!
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You confirming that makes me feel a lot better; I've only seen 2 comments about it from another user and myself.
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If I shake the phone I can here it kinda rattle. Lol, that hasn't bothered me, but I hear what you're saying. I've had some data gripes, but over all...AWESOME device!!
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Mine rattles when I shake it as well. I'm pretty sure my data issues are because of my house. I roam when I'm inside my house sometimes.
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Mine Doesn't rattle.
Check to make sure your screen isn't tilted either.
I've seen where some people's screens (And the Sprint Demo evo3d) had the screen tilted to the right a TINY TINY bit. It's almost unnoticable if your not looking at it, but then drives you mad once you find it. You can see if it effects you easily by looking at the upper right corner of your phone. If it looks tilted, you have the issue.
reaper24 said:
I'm not picky unless you get white spots like the EVO had 2 months into the brandnew phone that sucks .
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I hear you there, My OG EVO had the white splotch of doom too. It appeared in the lower center of the screen. I didnt know it was a well known defect until 8 months later, or that you could switch it out under the mfg warranty. So this is a good thread to have.
The kind guys at my radioshack swapped my evo 3d that had dirt under the screen in a few places. they didnt even look at me weird. They seemed to understand that I didnt want to look at that for at least one (possibly 2 years).
I Have light bleed when my captive buttons are not lit but my back light is on... my search button still glows from the leak... bothers me late at night when i am in my bed... "researching"
its a good thing you posted this, once I read it I began looking for these little flaws and found a dead pixel. Sprint is overnighting me a new one. Thanks
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Yea I have light leaking through too
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My EVO 4g had a couple of dead pixels, it was only noticeable when the screen was black. I dealt with it. I didn't want to go through the unrooting and rooting process again or worse...end up with a crappy refurb.

Guess I'll keep replacing.

Until I get a flawless 3V0. ( I don't care about light leak)
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I think your >. key on your keyboard got stuck
I love this phone but every single one I've had has had issues. Just received my new one today. It's better then the rest
Do what you got to do. I'm on my 3rd 3vo now.
No one cares. Should I wear a red shirt tomm, or my new white one? No one cares
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Cool story bro. I heard Samsung is coming out with a new phone for Sprint, you should try it out.
On my third. The first was for light leakage and a yellow tint. The second had leakage as well, so I figured I would live with it, but that one had a power button that wasn't responsive without pushing it down really hard.
This one has light leakage but everything else is fine. I'll live with it.
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Who ever says no one cares, then don't click the thread and don't post? mkay?
Anyways, yeah. The new one i got is pretty much perfect, we'll see.
I would take an HTC phone, over a samdong phone any day. I actually like quality
You collecting boxes? Aren't you supposed to return the boxes too? You could sell them on Ebay:
Brand new Evo 3D box
Only $149.
Mike
Anyone tried taking theirs back for the crooked screen? If so, did they replace it? Thinking about trying. Sometimes I don't really notice it, but there are sometimes when it really seems to show out more than others.
On your new one look closely for dirt under the screen..I'm sure you will find a spec some where.Then you can return it again.
And I'm sure no one would have noticed the crooked screens if it weren't for that thread...I feel like I'm the only person in the world who actually returned their phone for an actual defect that caused
the phone to not operate as intended.
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Well I was on my way to get my 6th one, and yeah all them had issues, and since I got it on launch day this was my last shot, but I have had enough. Mmm what to do? Talked to the manger and they will extend my return policy so that I can get the photon. I have to say that sprints customers service was top notch. PS. I really wanted to like this phone
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BrianBaker said:
On your new one look closely for dirt under the screen..I'm sure you will find a spec some where.Then you can return it again.
And I'm sure no one would have noticed the crooked screens if it weren't for that thread...I feel like I'm the only person in the world who actually returned their phone for an actual defect that caused
the phone to not operate as intended.
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Your so much better than everyone else. You probably are the only legit person here. I paid full price for this phone. My laptop doesn't have a crooked screen and it cost less than this phone. Sorry for expecting my $550 phone to have a straight screen. Plus, FYI, I noticed the crooked screen without ever reading one thing on here about it. In fact, I had no idea anyone else had noticed it until I came here to post about mine and saw the thread! Imagine that! You are wrong about something!
Yeah,imagine that....Well maybe if someone had 6 issues with 6 different phones then maybe that person should look for a different product..If i had to get something replaced that many times I can tell you that product/company would not get my business...If you've replaced a product that many times you're never going to be happy.Save yourself the headache in searching for the perfect phone and just give it up and move on.
<side note> If i paid full price sure i'd be a bit more picky,but 6 times? Does the company even deserve your hard earned money at that point?
housry23 said:
Anyone tried taking theirs back for the crooked screen? If so, did they replace it? Thinking about trying. Sometimes I don't really notice it, but there are sometimes when it really seems to show out more than others.
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Yes, they should. Can't imagine you'd get any flack unless you get a turd of a store. Only returned mine once: for the crooked screen. New one is perfect. Local Sprint store even let me sit down in their repair room and open and check out the brand new one before they even activated it. I confirmed the screen was straight, used the camera and gallery to search for dead pixels and then when I was satisfied, they swapped them and activated the new one. Great service!
P.S. Manager at that store commented that my screen was pretty bad. His was slightly crooked too and he said he was going to swap his out later but we both said the one I exchanged was twice as bad! Drag the notification bar down and the left edge of the notification bar on the bottom was actually underneath the blackout it was so crooked! It's only half to 3/4 of a millimeter but that's easily noticeable and since the digitizer (top glass panel) is straight and the LCD panel underneath is crooked, it can actually throw off the touch response. Straight digitizer + crooked screen = some keys on keyboard (and buttons in some apps) don't align properly and you end up pressing the wrong thing sometimes.
Mike
BrianBaker said:
Yeah,imagine that....Well maybe if someone had 6 issues with 6 different phones then maybe that person should look for a different product..If i had to get something replaced that many times I can tell you that product/company would not get my business...If you've replaced a product that many times you're never going to be happy.Save yourself the headache in searching for the perfect phone and just give it up and move on.
<side note> If i paid full price sure i'd be a bit more picky,but 6 times? Does the company even deserve your hard earned money at that point?
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I definitely agree with you on that point. I haven't taken my phone back yet because of the slightly crooked screen, but am thinking about it. It doesn't affect the function of the phone one bit, but it is a bit annoying when I see it. Like I said before it is not always noticeable, but there are certain times it is.
Some people are never satisfied and that's just the way it is.
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Yes, they should. Can't imagine you'd get any flack unless you get a turd of a store. Only returned mine once: for the crooked screen. New one is perfect. Local Sprint store even let me sit down in their repair room and open and check out the brand new one before they even activated it. I confirmed the screen was straight, used the camera and gallery to search for dead pixels and then when I was satisfied, they swapped them and activated the new one. Great service!
P.S. Manager at that store commented that my screen was pretty bad. His was slightly crooked too and he said he was going to swap his out later but we both said the one I exchanged was twice as bad! Drag the notification bar down and the left edge of the notification bar on the bottom was actually underneath the blackout it was so crooked! It's only half to 3/4 of a millimeter but that's easily noticeable and since the digitizer (top glass panel) is straight and the LCD panel underneath is crooked, it can actually throw off the touch response. Straight digitizer + crooked screen = some keys on keyboard (and buttons in some apps) don't align properly and you end up pressing the wrong thing sometimes.
Mike
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Yeah I can barely hit the p on mine. It is very difficult to type certain letters.
Edit: You convinced me to try. Going to go now. Thanks for your feedback.
I'm on my fourth e3d ..this is the first time I've ever had to exchange a phone for any reason..first one had a bad 3g radio..2nd had a blown earpiece 3rd wasn't to bad but still had bad reception and the rep actually wanted me to exchange it..all I wanted was to test it..just got this one and so far so good..usually I wouldnt stick with a product that had issues like this but I.just love HTC..I played with my nieces captivate and I couldn't stand the UI..no pinch.to zoom on photos and it just was difficult to navigate..and she's still on 2.1 update 1 ..I thought those phone had froyo already
housry23 said:
I definitely agree with you on that point. I haven't taken my phone back yet because of the slightly crooked screen, but am thinking about it. It doesn't affect the function of the phone one bit, but it is a bit annoying when I see it. Like I said before it is not always noticeable, but there are certain times it is.
Some people are never satisfied and that's just the way it is.
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If your screen is crooked and you noticed it with out the thread in this forum pointing it out to you then maybe your screen is crooked enough to warrant a swap out..My screen actually bricked on 3d content and anytime 3d activated,my phone would restart every time..If this phone I have now had an issue then I'd be done with it..I love the phone,but I think a lot of people here are wanting to love theirs and that's where the picky-ness sets in..I get it but I don't want to look forward to liking a product I buy..I want to like it for being what it is and performing the way it was intended...
Sorry if I came off as being greater than anyone else,I wasn't trying to..I just think I have a higher tolerance for technology than most..
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Newklearx3 said:
I would take an HTC phone, over a samdong phone any day. I actually like quality
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Haha says the guy who returned 4 phones already for quality issues
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Water under my screen?! Update: it wasn't water!

So I was using my flyer all today, and around 5:30 I left my house to go to class. I put my flyer in my backpack, and when I got to class I took it out and there seems to be moisture under my screen. How the hell it got there? I don't know. There's no way it could've gotten wet at any point during my commute to class. I've posted some pictures so you guys can see what I'm talking about. Is there any way to dry it out that you know of? Is my screen ruined? I sure hope not because i can't afford a fix. :/
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Ps, jar of rice is a given and I'm going to try that when i get home. Thanks for any other ideas
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Its not water. You device has been bent. Basically what's happening is your screen is getting pressured from the back and touching the digitizer panel or some other panel. I had this problem what I did is I placed the device on my lap held from both top side and applied pressure with my palm as if like trying to curve the device and it was fixed. make sure you don't apply too much pressure and break the device. I noticed mine happened because I kept the device in my back pocket and may have sat on it.
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Ps, jar of rice is a given and I'm going to try that when i get home. Thanks for any other ideas
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trust me no need for jar of rice. lol. initially i thought it was water damage as well.
well actually i thought it was humidity damage.
Thanks! I tried it, and it got rid of half of it then kinda made it worse. Any other suggestions on how to apply the pressure so i don't continue making it worse? I'll keep trying.
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Thanks! I tried it, and it got rid of half of it then kinda made it worse. Any other suggestions on how to apply the pressure so i don't continue making it worse? I'll keep trying.
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You have to get rid of all at once then it goes away. if its half gone and you stop it comes back with a different shape.
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You have to get rid of all at once then it goes away. if its half gone and you stop it comes back with a different shape.
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No matter how hard I push I can't get it to go away completely. I'm afraid of permanently damaging it.
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No matter how hard I push I can't get it to go away completely. I'm afraid of permanently damaging it.
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I felt the same when I was trying to fix mine but risked it. I might have have used my thumbs to swipe over the damaged are whilst applying pressure. Basically push air to the affected area so it stops clinging on.
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I felt the same when I was trying to fix mine but risked it. I might have have used my thumbs to swipe over the damaged are whilst applying pressure. Basically push air to the affected area so it stops clinging on.
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well..i've been trying and trying and it's getting to the point where my thumbs are starting to hurt from pushing so hard. lol thanks for your help i'll try again tomorrow or something.
That same thing just happened to me. Had it in my back pocket and I sat on it. I used a suction cup and placed it on the screen to pull the glass from the screen. Seems like the edge of the cup against the part thats touching works best.
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I've had this problem twice, just wait a few hours and it's gone (at least that worked for me)
I had the same problem once. I had it in my back pocket when I was testing out cars at an automobile dealership (sitting down a lot). It fixed itself in about 20 minutes. I think temperature has something to do with it too. I think it cooled off.
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I've had this problem twice, just wait a few hours and it's gone (at least that worked for me)
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I had the same problem once. I had it in my back pocket when I was testing out cars at an automobile dealership (sitting down a lot). It fixed itself in about 20 minutes. I think temperature has something to do with it too. I think it cooled off.
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You guys were lucky. I waited two days hoping it will fix itself before fixing it myself.
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That same thing just happened to me. Had it in my back pocket and I sat on it. I used a suction cup and placed it on the screen to pull the glass from the screen. Seems like the edge of the cup against the part thats touching works best.
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The suction cup worked flawlessly! i had to use a pair of pliers to pull on the suction cup because the plastic piece attached to it kept breaking off.. but thank you!!
As for damage to the screen, i've noticed that when i put my finger on the spot where it was bent or whatever and move the homescreen it will sometimes do this weird lag thing but it's not that bad i can live with it. just glad to have the ugly spot gone
They will repair it
I had the same happen, but with no significant pressure applied by me - the biggest issue was not the visible problem, but that the capacative layer went jumpy - sent it in and it was fixed under warranty - 5 days from calling to having a fixed device in my hands - it spent more time in transit than with HTC! I was very impressed.
I just put mine in the pouch overnight and it fixed itself.
Funny, funny, I thought it was something between the screen protector and the screen itself. I had the exact same thing when I had it in my back pocket for some minutes, no sitting down or anything, but it might have gotten a bit of pressure though. I was a lot scared when I saw it, but it just shrunk while I used it again, and with a SLURP (not kidding) it was all clean again in the end. Strange to hear some folks did make use of physical violence against their device to make it tidy again...
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So I was using my flyer all today, and around 5:30 I left my house to go to class. I put my flyer in my backpack, and when I got to class I took it out and there seems to be moisture under my screen. How the hell it got there? I don't know. There's no way it could've gotten wet at any point during my commute to class. I've posted some pictures so you guys can see what I'm talking about. Is there any way to dry it out that you know of? Is my screen ruined? I sure hope not because i can't afford a fix.
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Hi fellow Flyer owners,
Same thing happened to me many times.
1. First time-was a very soft press, leading to forefinger sized patch, it went away by itself within a few minutes. No orange discoloration throughout.
2. Second time was more serious-had accidentally sat on it while on jeans backpocket (never do this, guys !!). It led to a double thumb sized patch with the same orange fringe discolouration that Gumby63 showed. I took to HTC Centre, they said "LCD Crystal had leaked out" leading to both the wet patch and discolouration. No amount of rubbing and bending will remove that. Unit was deemed defective.
They changed the entire unit FOC taking 3 days and all lost data. The new unit had a much harder glass, it will not show liquid marks even under very heavy finger pressing. (But do not sit or overly pressure it, might crack glass !!)
Conclusion: The 1st batches of Flyers have soft glass, where very succeptible to patch and leaks. Some of you could have gotten an exchange, others might have no problem yet.
My Flyer now has Part Number : P/N 99HML044-01 D
Its a 32gb 3G Wifi. The "-01" and suffix "D" could signify an upgraded display.
Guys, hope my information helps you.
Grumby,
I just relooked your pictures, it does seem you have LCD crystal leak. Could you take yours in and mention for a change to better glass version.
You could quote them my new P/N as safe measure.
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Grumby,
I just relooked your pictures, it does seem you have LCD crystal leak. Could you take yours in and mention for a change to better glass version.
You could quote them my new P/N as safe measure.
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Well I fixed it with the suction cup, I'm not to worried about it seeing as my device still works perfectly (it doesn't do the screen jumpy thing I mentioned earlier anymore) but maybe if it happens again I will try what you said. I'm being extra careful now
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This happened to me 3 times. First time I had it in my back pocket. The patch appeared after a 10 min walk. Didn't sit on it. It went away by itself after an hour or so.
2nd and 3rd time it seemed to happen randomly. On the 3rd occurrence the flyer was just in my bag. When I took it out the patch was there again. After 2 days, it was still there so I decided to go to the HTC service center and have it repaired. that was yesterday. Now I need to wait 3 to 5 working days, hopefully not longer!
Update: I got my flyer back a few days after bringing it to the service center. Good as new! Either they replaced the casing or gave me a new/refurbished unit because all the scratches and dents are gone. =)
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My goodbye.

Just wanted to stop in and thank all of you for all the amazing support given by you guys in this forum. This isn't a bashing forum to say "I'm going to a different phone because this phone now sucks" or anything like that. This is still an amazing phone, I just decided that I wanted to upgrade for more features and a better (faster) camera since I have a 2 year old brother who I am constantly taking photos of. Again, thanks for all the amazing developers and other users who have answered my questions without hesitation, I wish the best for you all! On to the Galaxy S5 thread it is for me!
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I just left the s5 for the lg g2 and i am loving it ...
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I just left the s5 for the lg g2 and i am loving it ...
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That's interesting, could you please explain why did you make the switch?
Touchwiz was enough reason for me. I even returned the the tab pro 8.4 cause of it.
Edit: sorry cause that doesn't really tell you much. I'm just not big fan of tw. Just my opinion and experience.
Generally when I leave forums, I just move to the new forum lol, but definitely enjoy the phone!
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Enjoy your new toy man.
I will stay here for a while, I am enough of a touchwizz, not that I love lg UI, i it is realy ugly but somehow it is more stock android whe you debloat it than tw. by the way the s2 for me looking better than s5
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I thought I would be moving from the G2 to the St, until they announced it. I was convinced it was going to blow me away, but for me it failed.
I have, however moved (when it's delivered tonorow) to the Z2. I don't know why I have fallen in love with it, but I have.
On the other side, the Z2 is going to have to be an amazing phone to live up to the G2. Never ever ever ever, would I have thought I would own an LG phone, but wow, it is truly amazing!!!!!!!!!!! Best phone I have ever owned!!!!
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Xstop said:
Touchwiz was enough reason for me. I even returned the the tab pro 8.4 cause of it.
Edit: sorry cause that doesn't really tell you much. I'm just not big fan of tw. Just my opinion and experience.
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I had the GS3 (best phone I had before the G2) and TouchWiz never bothered me since I immediately installed Nova Launcher. In fact I had the original Galaxy, the G2 and the G3. And I had custom launchers on all of them. I don't think TouchWiz is either a make or break decision.
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That's interesting, could you please explain why did you make the switch?
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Yes, please, could topic starter please compare G2 to his new S5? What's better, which is faster, which camera better shoot in low lights?
Really though... Our camera is better. Especially on xdabbebs 24a. Holy wow.
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Yes, please, could topic starter please compare G2 to his new S5? What's better, which is faster, which camera better shoot in low lights?
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While all the comparisons I've seen were somewhat unfair, a rooted tweaked g2 vs a stock s5...but in those comparisons, the g2 comes out on top. Be interesting to see a vs between the two phones when they're both at there best
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Yes, please, could topic starter please compare G2 to his new S5? What's better, which is faster, which camera better shoot in low lights?
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Alright, quick review now that I've been using it for 2 days.
*please note this is purely out of the box experience on both phones, just to keep it fair.*
Camera: holy hell. The s5 camera is amazing. To me it just blows the G2 camera out of the water. So much faster auto focus, brighter & more accurate colors, instant shutter instead of having to hold the phone still for a second or two every time you slightly move the phone. Plus, all the camera features are amazing. Especially the selective focus shots. Looks extremely professional.
Responsiveness: once again, this is going to the galaxy. Everything seems to snap more in this phone, as if every app were made for it. Even using chrome browser feels like a day and night difference. The zoom is the smoothest that I have seen on any phone. This holds true with everything from gesture typing to just scrolling the home screen. That snapdragon 801 is a beast.
Battery: of course the G2 kills the S5 in this field. The 2800 mAh battery just doesn't stand a chance. Especially with the brightness of the superAmoled+ screen. I have yet to be able to get a whole day of heavy use out of it like I was the G2, but I expected this going in. The phone does a really good job of putting itself into deep sleep though. I am doing nothing to conserve battery (as usual), I have twitter, Facebook, Instagram, vine, ifunny, etc installed, so I was surprised when I realized that the phone was only dropping around 1%/hr with the screen off. But, I have also only had the phone 2 days, things are still breaking in. If anything changes I will come back and edit this.
Display: the display on the S5 is amazing. Holding the G2 side by side the resolution itself looks almost identical, however, the G2 does appear to show whites more accurate while the S5 displays black more accurate due to the magic going on in the amoLED display.
Gimmicks:
-fingerprint scanner: this one was by far the most frustrating to me. The fingerprint scanner was one thing that really caught my attention about this phone. Since it's Samsung making it I figured it would be as good or better than my old 5s. Unfortunately, I was wrong. Don't get me wrong, it isn't terrible, it works, it really does; there is just a technique to it that you have to teach yourself in order to do it one handed (the scanner is designed to be used two handed, one hand holding the phone with the finger on the other hand being scanned.) Now that I have figured out how to do it, I am proud to say that I can successfully use the scanner 95% of the time.
-IP67:I have not got to test this thing out against dirt yet (waiting until I go dirt bike riding again) but you best believe that within 4 hours of the beauty coming in the mail I was texting people in the shower. It really works! I was worried because the aux port is left open, but somehow they have managed to make it work! I have run it under a stream of water from the sink to wash the screen off (which, by the way, works wonders!) And I believe I got some water in the aux jack or something because the auxiliary did go a little faulty for about 30 minutes, but it seemed to fix itself!
Touchwiz:my only gripe about touchwiz this time around is that it looks cartoony to me, almost like a child's toy. The DPI definitely needs to be dropped a bit, that would make this display amazing. Everything else is fine. I love the Samsung "Gimmicks". The multi window, gestures, etc. work great as usual.
Final: The S5 is a great phone, it's lighter, it's faster (just enough to be noticeable), the camera is about as good as it gets on a smartphone, and it can read fingerprints and take a dive. If none of this matters to you, there is no logic in you purchasing the S5. But, if you are in need of a better camera or a dust and waterproof phone, you can't go wrong with the S5!
Wow, thats weird because GSMarena said the GS5 was one of their longest lasting phones yet in battery tests. Should be pretty close to the G2.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-s5-battery-test/ (S5)
http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-battery-tests-are-done-here-are-the-results/ (G2)
Maybe check settings, apps, sync, location settings.
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Wow, thats weird because GSMarena said the GS5 was one of their longest lasting phones yet in battery tests. Should be pretty close to the G2.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-s5-battery-test/ (S5)
http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-battery-tests-are-done-here-are-the-results/ (G2)
Maybe check settings, apps, sync, location settings.
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It does seem like my battery is beginning to break in a little more each charge I put it through. Here is what I'm working with currently:
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It isn't bad by any means, I'm just hoping for more and more each time I'm reaching for the charger. If I were someone who used my phone ~3 hours a day I would be absolutely in love with this battery. Unfortunately I'm not. I'm on mine usually 5 hours or so a day.
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abhinav.tella said:
Wow, thats weird because GSMarena said the GS5 was one of their longest lasting phones yet in battery tests. Should be pretty close to the G2.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-s5-battery-test/ (S5)
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You have to know that these tests are done with pre-release firmware often, and G2 at least were suffering a bit from wakelocks at start. If they did a test now with KitKat it would blow the old value away, especially enduring.
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You have to know that these tests are done with pre-release firmware often, and G2 at least were suffering a bit from wakelocks at start. If they did a test now with KitKat it would blow the old value away, especially enduring.
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The G2 already did very well, the tests attest to that. Just saying that the GS5 was supposed to be close to it.
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The G2 already did very well, the tests attest to that. Just saying that the GS5 was supposed to be close to it.
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I have never once in my life gotten as good battery life from Samsung phones, that are reported in tests. They always have some software crap that eats battery on the background and you can't get rid of it without rooting and that in turn flags Knox. Some friends who bought the S5 are saying the same - they have issues with the battery.
This is why I absolutely never trust battery tests unless they are done be real users and in real life for an extended period of time.
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I have never once in my life gotten as good battery life from Samsung phones, that are reported in tests. They always have some software crap that eats battery on the background and you can't get rid of it without rooting and that in turn flags Knox. Some friends who bought the S5 are saying the same - they have issues with the battery.
This is why I absolutely never trust battery tests unless they are done be real users and in real life for an extended period of time.
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Lol, thats understandable. They do it in ideal conditions, ie excellent signal, 50% Brightness, no draining apps etc. Also AMOLED kills battery on web due to all white background as all sub pixels are needed for white. AMOLED uses more battery than LCD in such conditions by +100% or more. Not to mention at full brighness, and the screen burn to top it off after a few months which I have seen.

G5 quality control issues are real?

Where ever i read three are several people going through all sorts of issues with G5. Iam currently waiting for mine but all these QC issues are really starting to make me worried.
Now i am not sure wether to go ahead or cancel my pre order.
Mine is flawless. Looks perfect, no headphone issues, wifi calling works. I guess I haven't looked at screen bleed but don't really care about that. Haven't noticed any screen bloom.
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Mine is flawless. Looks perfect, no headphone issues, wifi calling works. I guess I haven't looked at screen bleed but don't really care about that. Haven't noticed any screen bloom.
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Thats good to hear.
Anyone else has anything to chip in ?
I'm on the way to pick mine up so I will tell you how my unit looks . I have said that if there is any problem with the look of mine that it's going to go back
No flaws with mine. Haven't look for light bleed though. Don't care about it.
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well with most manufactures trying to lower the costs and moving into china its expected to see enough issues
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They've always been in China or another Asian country
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They've always been in China or another Asian country
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True, I dont see people complaining about iphone quality that much.
But all things aside, I am hoping that UK dont get that many defective units since we have stricter QC measure in place.
Like most things, people dont bother to write unless they have a complaint. So im sure for every complaint you hear there are a hundred happy people. I have had mine since release day and the only thing i am dissapointed in is the volume buttons being on the side(which i all ready knew).
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Like most things, people dont bother to write unless they have a complaint. So im sure for every complaint you hear there are a hundred happy people. I have had mine since release day and the only thing i am dissapointed in is the volume buttons being on the side(which i all ready knew).
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Glad to hear u are happy with your G5.
As for the volume control I am glad that they decided to put it on the side, since its easier for me to skip tracks easily while phone is in my pocket but with my G3 i have to really search for it and most of the times i would just hit the power button or camera lens
Camera lens scratched already.
I've had the phone since April 1st and i've been very happy with, however i just noticed that my Camera's glass cover in the back is already scratched. I have a case on the phone and I've been very careful with the phone. I'm very disappointed and annoyed that this got scratched up so easily! has anyone else noticed this? just seems like a very cheap material in the back. Is there any protector i can buy or will it distort the image?
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Glad to hear u are happy with your G5.
As for the volume control I am glad that they decided to put it on the side, since its easier for me to skip tracks easily while phone is in my pocket but with my G3 i have to really search for it and most of the times i would just hit the power button or camera lens
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I feel the same. Although it was kinda fun trying to find the right button before!
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Glad to hear u are happy with your G5.
As for the volume control I am glad that they decided to put it on the side, since its easier for me to skip tracks easily while phone is in my pocket but with my G3 i have to really search for it and most of the times i would just hit the power button or camera lens
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I've had the phone since April 1st and i've been very happy with, however i just noticed that my Camera's glass cover in the back is already scratched. I have a screen proctor on the phone that doesn't cover this part, but i've been very careful with the phone. I'm very disappointed and annoyed that this got scratched up so easily! has anyone else noticed this? just seems like a very cheap material in the back. Is there any protector i can buy or will it distort the image?
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That sucks. I'm pretty certain I saw a case on Amazon that covers the camera as well. Yes, it must distort the photo a LITTLE but hopefully not much. Maybe it was the Lifeproof case?
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I've had the phone since April 1st and i've been very happy with, however i just noticed that my Camera's glass cover in the back is already scratched. I have a screen proctor on the phone that doesn't cover this part, but i've been very careful with the phone. I'm very disappointed and annoyed that this got scratched up so easily! has anyone else noticed this? just seems like a very cheap material in the back. Is there any protector i can buy or will it distort the image?
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Looks like you dont have a case on your phone, and since G5 has a camera bump it is bound to get scratched when left on a hard surface.
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Looks like you dont have a case on your phone, and since G5 has a camera bump it is bound to get scratched when left on a hard surface.
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I meant to say i have a case not screen protector. I have a case on the phone.
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Where ever i read three are several people going through all sorts of issues with G5. Iam currently waiting for mine but all these QC issues are really starting to make me worried.
Now i am not sure wether to go ahead or cancel my pre order.
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Keep your order. It'll be worth it for you trust me. Got mine from ee today. Absolutely amazing phone and in perfect condition with amazing build quality.
I've been very happy with the build quality of mine (had it since Wednesday), moving from a Nexus 5X the quality is in such a higher league in my opinion. So I am very happy. If build quality is your only concern I wouldn't worry, like others have said for every one complaint there will of been many more who have been fine! The phone (at least in the UK anyway) comes with a 2 year warranty (one year for the battery) so that has to go some way in showing that LG believe tha5 the build quality of the phone will last at least that amount of time. I've only got one problem so far which is that the camera, on both the normal and wide angle (although more noticeable on the wide angle) seems to distort massively, almost as though you are shooting through a plastic protective cover. Although I've picked at the camera it doesn't appear one was on it out of the box and I don't want to try too much harder in case it isn't and it is just a terrible software bug that it causing it! The camera in the 5X has been amazing in low light and this feels a bit of a deal breaker for me personally (the camera is the main feature even above battery). Has anyone else had to remove some a plastic cover from the camera after taking it out the box?
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I've been very happy with the build quality of mine (had it since Wednesday), moving from a Nexus 5X the quality is in such a higher league in my opinion. So I am very happy. If build quality is your only concern I wouldn't worry, like others have said for every one complaint there will of been many more who have been fine! The phone (at least in the UK anyway) comes with a 2 year warranty (one year for the battery) so that has to go some way in showing that LG believe tha5 the build quality of the phone will last at least that amount of time. I've only got one problem so far which is that the camera, on both the normal and wide angle (although more noticeable on the wide angle) seems to distort massively, almost as though you are shooting through a plastic protective cover. Although I've picked at the camera it doesn't appear one was on it out of the box and I don't want to try too much harder in case it isn't and it is just a terrible software bug that it causing it! The camera in the 5X has been amazing in low light and this feels a bit of a deal breaker for me personally (the camera is the main feature even above battery). Has anyone else had to remove some a plastic cover from the camera after taking it out the box?
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M8 i would just take it back and replace it, no point in taking a chance.
My G5 is flawless and looks amazing.
Got mine 4-1-16 and have had zero issues. No light bleed no calling or headphone jax issues no gaps and some say that the side ring or whatever around the phone is like sharp or something mine is not. Some people are saying the battery life sucks but mine is great i get 5 to 5.5 hours screen on time. Also if the screen is off over 8 hours like if i dont charge at night i get maybe 5 to 8% drop at most.
My suggestion is when you get your phone if you see anything wrong like sharp edges gaps light bleed go and exchange for a new one. I think I heard Lg has multiple plants manufacturing the phone and one of them must be effing up big time. I got mine at best buy so I dunno if that makes a difference
I've heard more complaints with the build quality of this phone than with any other in recent memory.
Yes, some may be nitpicky, but for a damn near $700 device, we're allowed to be picky.
I'm not saying it's a bad device, I'm just going by what I've been researching/seen instore. It sounds like it performs like a Champ but you may have to go through a few to get a solid built one.
Sammae7 said:
I've heard more complaints with the build quality of this phone than with any other in recent memory.
Yes, some may be nitpicky, but for a damn near $700 device, we're allowed to be picky.
I'm not saying it's a bad device, I'm just going by what I've been researching/seen instore. It sounds like it performs like a Champ but you may have to go through a few to get a solid built one.
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HTC 10 hehe

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