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Hi all,
Just updating this as a little source of info incase anyone else searching finds my experience helpful!:
- Rooting: Decided not to do this until it's clear if offical updates work with it or not.
- Contacts: Created a google account which now syncs perfectly with the phone. All contacts are stored on the web account, so clearing the phone during resets isn't a problem - just put the Gmail details back in and everything is cool again
- File Manager: Using ES File Explorer from the market place (Free), works perfectly and lists all the files on the SD card.
- Network Usage: Using NetCounter from the market place (Free), works perfectly just keeping tabs on how much data has been sent over the cell or Wi-fi; breaking it down for usage on a daily basis, weekly, monthly and total. Also seems to support alert notifications so you can have your phone warn you when you've reached a certain amount of data.
- Case / Screen Protectors: Found a few online and Amazon however yet to purchase any (there are some reviews saying the rubber cases are too tight on the phone and start rubbing the surface colour off them.
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This is somewhat crossposted as I don't know if this is a more suitable board.
Anyhow! I've been stuck with a XDA Exec for a number of years however today, after it started sending emails with text messages, I've ordered a new HTC Hero on Orange in order to replace the rubbish WM OS which was giving me no end of problems.
To cut to the chase I'm wondering when I get my device is there anything in particular worth doing, newbie questions I know but we all have to start somewhere! For example:
- Is it worth rooting? What exactly does rooting the device then allow me to do? (I've come across the process for doing it multiple times but I'm still none the wiser as to what this enables the handset to do)
- In line with the above is there anything worth doing to the device during setup to improve it's overall usability / performance?
- Are there are any particular apps that are worth putting on to improve performance? Giving control over the CPU maybe?
...etc
Any general advice for a new handset would be appreciated as I know there are some brilliant minds here (just finding all the relevant information is sometimes tricky!)
All the best,
Temjin
Yes a few things
before you start up the device create a google account online first, ie create a google email address eg. [email protected]
Then make sure you setup the phone with this address when it starts up, otherwise you may have problems accessing the market like me haha.
Copilot is a must its an excellent program, just as good as tomtom if not better.
i installed solitare as well cos i missed it off my old diamond.
As for rooting i as yet have not done so because there seems to be no real reason so far, installing apps and modding the phone is simple by adding widgets etc.
The phone runs as smooth as day straight out the box for me, but my phone is unbranded.
Hope that helps
Not much point to rooting yet, unless you want to have hundreds of apps installed (app2sd).
I would recommend that you remove the "people" widget as it is really not hugely helpful and slows the phone down a lot, especially when swiping from screen to screen. If you experience lag, you can also try removing the large clock widget and peep. Without these, the phone is much faster. (it's kinda sucky having to remove them but to be honest I'd rather a more responsive phone, personally). Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544958
Try to avoid using task managers and task-killers as these will cause more trouble than they are worth - let android manage processes and memory by itself.
Finally, don't go wild installing apps. Certain apps such as monitoring widgets cause havoc with the battery life, so install apps one or two at a time so that you will notice if performance or battery life suddenly plummets.
kiz said:
Finally, don't go wild installing apps. Certain apps such as monitoring widgets cause havoc with the battery life, so install apps one or two at a time so that you will notice if performance or battery life suddenly plummets.
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Can you advice if NetCounter or BatteryWidget eats a lot of battery?
mystaka said:
Can you advice if NetCounter or BatteryWidget eats a lot of battery?
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NetCounter is OK, I haven't noticed any drop in battery life using it.
Oh when hard reseting
When you hard reset your phone if you ever need to, remove your simcard then put it back in after the reset, otherwise you lose you sim contacts like i have!!!
Hi guys!
I got my Hero on Tuesday and so far I'm absolutley loving it (although coming from WM 5.1 doesn't take much to beat ).
I've got a few more questions:
- When synced with Google Contacts a home address on the Hero is listed under "Find Home". This cuts the address short, is there a way of making it making the address field more presentable?
- Is there any native way for seeing how much data has been downloaded (gotta be careful of my tarrif limit!) or is there a simple app for this purpose?
- Is there anyway of browsing file directories?
- Is there any sort of protective cases or screen covers for the Hero?
In case it helps any other people who are looking for starter information:
- Rooting: Decided not to do this until it's clear if offical updates work with it or not.
- Contacts: Created a google account which now syncs perfectly with the phone. All contacts are stored on the web account, so clearing the phone during resets isn't a problem - just put the Gmail details back in and everything is cool again
Thanks!
~ T
Temjin said:
- Is there any native way for seeing how much data has been downloaded (gotta be careful of my tarrif limit!) or is there a simple app for this purpose?
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NetCounter is lightweight, to the point and very effective
Temjin said:
- Is there anyway of browsing file directories?
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You need an app, there is no native explorer. I have found ES File Explorer to be the best free explorer. It supports SMB network shares with ease too. No need to go through the hassle of connecting by USB and mounting the SD card to xfer files... you can just pull files directly over your network.
Hi Kiz,
Those two apps work fantastic! Thanks!
Hello,
recently I have bought two devices HTC Desire X.
As those are first smartphones for my wife and myself we had made investigation and finally have chosen your device, it's really lovely and performing so far great. I'm impressed and really like them.
But we have faced several issues mentioned below and I'm looking for your support here, because those issues are really shame for such a great device and HTC name..
1. The biggest and serious issue we have faced is the white/hiss noise when we are on the call with another person. One of devices has higher level of noise than the other, but in both cases the noise is too much for a such device. Much cheaper and many other devices doesn't have such a noise. I've checked with other devices and other HTC devices as well as in internet and seems like a general problem with many of HTC devices. Many people complaining from the same noise which seems available at different level on different HTC phones, also available when listening to music.
I really hope it's a software issue, but seems more like HW one.
I've check HTC Desire HD - has a noise maybe a bit lower bit it's there, checked pretty old Samsung i5500 or something, but again android device and guess what it's not there or at very low level.
So it seems like it's not general android phone issue.
Even more, as I said on one of our DX is lower than the other, and it happened they have different ROM and being prepared for different operators and country.
The one with more noise is for Orange CH version 1.14.65.1, the other with lower noise got updated to 1.14.118.1 as it seems for T-Mobile PL.
Although it's more like a HW issue which is a real shame, I'm wondering whether it could be somehow related to different ROM version or it's been just a matter of luck.
I've wrote to HTC Support as well and will see.
2.. Calendar snooze function doesn't work as expected. When a calendar reminder appear and choose snooze in most cases the snooze is actually deleted and alarm will no longer remind again. It seems like a HTC general issue for more than a year, real shame.
In addition I have another question, how many times and at what interval the reminder would remind if we don't dismiss or snooze the event?
3. Bluetooth - although the phone has more than 1GB available memory for user application, we are not able to receive files via Bluetooth due to lack of SD card. Is there any fix or configuration, which would allow us receive files without SD card?
This seems to be a general Android issue fixed in 4.1, shame again.
So we have to try workarounds now, input SD card, take the files and then copy them to internal phone memory to be able to release the SD card, which leads to next finding.
4. The is no file browser included, so any good one to recommend from android store.
5. If I'd like to load on the phone my files for notifications and ringtones, how should I do it, and where should I place them in phone memory.
6. Battery notification for low battery level with a sound appear only once. Is there any way to configure low battery level notification with sound alarm more than once?
Again seems like general android stuff.
7. Sound profile - we are unable to find suitable sound profiles and easy activation. What I mean is to have few profiles with different ring tones and behavior, e.g. for a meeting to have vibration and beep once, and of course fast and easy way to switch the profiles. Is there such solution available?
Again seems like general android stuff.
8. It's a bit strange but on one of the phones Keyboard layout is qwertz not qwerty, any help how I can have a standard qwerty layout for English keyboard?
9. I've found two strange stuff in Contacts/people application
- first one is inability to add/change/set a given contact/person phone number to mobile type if already exist one of mobile type.
- second one even more strange, we can't find how we can assign a ring tone to contact group
10. Do you have or recommend any other software either PC or device Android different than HTC Sync, which does support wireless connection like Bluetooth to computer as HTC Sync seems to work only with cable connection /shame again/. Additionally what application can be used to make a backup of my phone - like contacts, calendar and so on , which may keep all formting like which one is the primary phone number for a given person if he/she has more than one number.
11. Both phones display colors are different, like they have different color temperature set, any way to fix it and can it be due to different ROMs?
12. I've noticed different indication for network connectivity, when both phones are at the same place and same carrier, one shows 3G+ while the other H.
- can it be due to different ROMs?
- is there any difference between H and 3G+?
13. Is it possible to take the ROM from one of the phones and load it to the other, so both of them would be identical and how?
I do really hope some of you can help us, because it's a real shame for such a great device with such issues, which are actually basic functionality for simple phones since 10 years and it's disappointing. Anyway I do believe there should be a solution as some of the issues seems application stuff which is HTC specific and doesn't exist in other android phones as Samsung.
The surprising funny and disappointing part of this is that is supposed to be smartphone, so may be makes our life easier, while with such a issues it turn into adventure and it behave like a tamagotchi game to look after all the time instead.
Thank you very much in advance
Most of the stuff you wrote are not issues.
3. Go to Settings/Storage/App storage location settings and set Phone storage for Bluetooth.
4. ES File Explorer.
5. Make folder named Ringtones on phone storage or SD card, put melodies inside and phone will see them. Do the same for Alarms and Notifications.
6. When battery level drops under 15% it gives you more than one notification sound, but not in the same time frame.
7. Here you can find additional HTC widgets, there's a profile widget it can set Ringing/Vibrate/Fully silent profiles. Also there's an app called Widgetsiod in Play Store.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2064891
8. Go to settings/language&keyboard/HTC sense input and set English for keyboard selection, I'm not sure if that will help but try. Also choose English for phone language.
9. No way to set ringtones to groups, only contacts. And only one type for a number, but you can set other as many times as you want.
10. HTC Sync Manager, not HTC Sync-it won't work. Sync Manager works only wit cable. There's an app called Moborobo or 91 PC Suite which works with wireless, but app page in application will make your PC antivirus go crazy. It will also install some Market App on your phone to some Chinese app market I recommend you to uninstall it as soon as Moborobo installs it on your phone after first connection.
11. It's because of rom. You can't take rom from one and put it to another, you can root both phones and install the same custom rom on both. You have the Index with a lot of useful stuff in my signature.
12. Again because of rom. 3G+ and H (HSPA) means the same.
13. I already gave you the answer in 11.
I hope I helped.
4. Total Commander
Sent from my HTC Desire X using xda app-developers app
10. Try with Kies Air app from the play store... It's made by Samsung, but works with all devices.
Sent from my hTC branded muffin
nlooooo said:
Most of the stuff you wrote are not issues.
3. Go to Settings/Storage/App storage location settings and set Phone storage for Bluetooth.
4. ES File Explorer.
5. Make folder named Ringtones on phone storage or SD card, put melodies inside and phone will see them. Do the same for Alarms and Notifications.
6. When battery level drops under 15% it gives you more than one notification sound, but not in the same time frame.
7. Here you can find additional HTC widgets, there's a profile widget it can set Ringing/Vibrate/Fully silent profiles. Also there's an app called Widgetsiod in Play Store.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2064891
8. Go to settings/language&keyboard/HTC sense input and set English for keyboard selection, I'm not sure if that will help but try. Also choose English for phone language.
9. No way to set ringtones to groups, only contacts. And only one type for a number, but you can set other as many times as you want.
10. HTC Sync Manager, not HTC Sync-it won't work. Sync Manager works only wit cable. There's an app called Moborobo or 91 PC Suite which works with wireless, but app page in application will make your PC antivirus go crazy. It will also install some Market App on your phone to some Chinese app market I recommend you to uninstall it as soon as Moborobo installs it on your phone after first connection.
11. It's because of rom. You can't take rom from one and put it to another, you can root both phones and install the same custom rom on both. You have the Index with a lot of useful stuff in my signature.
12. Again because of rom. 3G+ and H (HSPA) means the same.
13. I already gave you the answer in 11.
I hope I helped.
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3. Does not work as the setting Storage/App storage location is greyed out due to lack of SD card. So still getting the error not able to receive files via BT because there is no SD card. I'll try with pug the card in and set the settings, then get out the card and see.
8. That's what I have done, but doesn't help, even English keyboard and localization are with qwertz layout, that's due to phone is fow Swiss and localization is showed as English(Switzerland). Maybe I should find another locale in the marker or re-flash the phone with another stock image.
9. It's real shame, that's maybe the most important feature and reason to group the contacts at all.
13. OK, still not know to me what's the problem with that as both are stock images. Or any way to change the CID and finally have both phones at the same level.
Changing of CID is possible only if you s-off your phone cause it's stored on radio partition. For now there is no way to s-off it.
nlooooo said:
Changing of CID is possible only if you s-off your phone cause it's stored on radio partition. For now there is no way to s-off it.
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OK I see.
I just checked and my phones are ORANG216 on 1.14 no update, and T-MOB101 1.18 updated. So any way I can unlock, root ... so on to have unbranded and use RUU_PROTO_U_ICS_40A_HTC_Europe_1.18.401.1_Radio_10.21.40.06U_1.10.40.23_release
or have both as T-MOB101 1.18 , unbranded is preferred of course, but at least have updates on the first one, as Orange Switzerland are quite conservative and have no updates while T-Mobile had.
Rives IResend
9. This seems to be a limitation of people application used in HTC. In Samsung devices both available, I'm wondering whether I can get new or replace current application and use those features.
It's strange but you may have more than one mobile phone per contact but you can't set it from the phone itself. If you get your contacts from another phone or from google you may have more than one mobile phone. Strange and illogical isn't it
radkol said:
9. I've found two strange stuff in Contacts/people application
- first one is inability to add/change/set a given contact/person phone number to mobile type if already exist one of mobile type.
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nlooooo said:
9. [...] And only one type for a number, but you can set other as many times as you want.
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radkol said:
9. This seems to be a limitation of people application used in HTC. In Samsung devices both available, I'm wondering whether I can get new or replace current application and use those features.
It's strange but you may have more than one mobile phone per contact but you can't set it from the phone itself. If you get your contacts from another phone or from google you may have more than one mobile phone. Strange and illogical isn't it
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Try to move you contacts to Google, not phone memory, this way you can put multiple mobile phones. What you described happens only for contacts stored in phone memory.
This iPad Air 2 clone from Onda: http://www.onda-tablet.com/onda-v91...reen-ram-2gb-octa-core-3g-android-tablet.html
Looks rather nice, (and very cheap) for what it is, the question is does anyone have one, and what's the battery life like?
I'm currently running an old (original) Nexus 7 Running 5.02 lollipop. It's usable. But having just bought my mother a ASUS HD7 (also an Intel build) http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/12/7377323/best-cheap-tablet-you-can-buy and seen how it performs in comparison I think it's time for an upgrade.
This: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2776829 seems to be how to root one, but I'm more interested in build quality and feel
So does anyone have one?
NOTE: These are INTEL ROMS for Baytrail, etc. https://01.org/android-ia/downloads
praxis22 said:
This iPad Air 2 clone from Onda: http://www.onda-tablet.com/onda-v91...reen-ram-2gb-octa-core-3g-android-tablet.html
Looks rather nice, (and very cheap) for what it is, the question is does anyone have one, and what's the battery life like?
I'm currently running an old (original) Nexus 7 Running 5.02 lollipop. It's usable. But having just bought my mother a ASUS HD7 (also an Intel build) http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/12/7377323/best-cheap-tablet-you-can-buy and seen how it performs in comparison I think it's time for an upgrade.
This: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2776829 seems to be how to root one, but I'm more interested in build quality and feel
So does anyone have one?
NOTE: These are INTEL ROMS for Baytrail, etc. https://01.org/android-ia/downloads
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Hi, got one on order - delivery next week, I hope, according to the email received today. I ordered the Android Only version - the dual boot Android / Win 8 was quite a bit more and I already have a MS Win 8 tablet which I dont like so didn't need the pain Also it was USD40 cheaper, so spent themoney on a memory card.
I also have an iPad Air Mini, so it will be interesting to compare to see if the Onda can match an iPad - not quite a direct comparison, but will be interesting.
http://www.onda-tablet.com/onda-v919-3g-air-9-7-inch-retina-screen-ram-2gb-octa-core-3g-android-tablet.html
Jeff
Jeff, tell us how the tablet is. what are the features like? how is the dual boot? etc....
Sorry for delay - I didn't get an email note to say a reply had been posted!
Anyway, I bought the Android version as I have a Win 8 tablet and hate it.
As usual for a Chinese item, it was configured for English (US) and has a selection of rather "unusual" programs and apps loaded as standard. Most are in-built into the ROM and cannot be deleted.
It is, basically, a large Android Phone running 4.4.2. It has a well configured 16Gb internal USB drive of which approx 12Gb is free to load apps. I have put a 64Gb TF card in and it is recognised and formatted automatically. It has a Micro SIM slot but my WorldSIM card is not recognised as it does not pull-in the SIM tools from the SIM card so cannot find a signal. I will buy a PAYG SIM from Tesco when I next go there.
It proved impossible to root the ROM using all of the APK or USB type methods - 4.4.2 is known to be extremely difficult and 4.4.3 almost impossible (I have read). I saw an add on the web for a USD39.95 root or your money back. Nothing ventured, Nothing gained, so I clicked on the link. A chat box opened and I discussed the issue (Chinese tablet / 4.4.2 etc.) and the techy guy said it was 50/50. He did confirm that if it didn't work there would be no damage and a full refund; if it did work, then that's good. I paid by PayPal and as soon as it went through, I got an invite to allow remote access. The tech guy downloaded iRoot (which has already failed for me) as well as a small toolkit. He ran a DOS promt and got the phone to be recognised - this is the secret that made it work; a standard USB/Phone driver is not working well with 4.4.2.
Once the phone saw the USB connection, he ran iRoot and after 5 minutes and a few reboots, it was rooted. He then tidied up the PC by deleting the files he had downloaded.
On the tablet, I now had a rooted ROM and a selection of new Chinese icons (SuperCLeaner / SuperUser and a few "extras"). Being untrustworthy, I wanted to replace those a.s.a.p. but being careful not to disturb anything that might un-root me. I went to bed, it was 11:30 and I didn't want to make any mistakes.
This morning, I researched what was available. First install was BUSYBOX FREE which I have always read is a util you should install. Next was SuperSU which is the utility that is normally part of a "Western" root process. As it loaded, it complained that there was already a SuperUser App installed (the Chinese one) so I ticked the box to say "replace it" and kept my fingers crossed. All went OK, rebooted and I now had SuperSU up and running. Next app to look at was the Chinese SuperCleaner which kept popping up saying it was cleaning up the cache etc. Made me suspicious. So, first thing was to get rid of it. It was a simple drag and uninstall.
I was still left with a lot of icons of unknown use (Chinese Characters / Chinese Browser / Chinese email app etc etc) that were part of the ROM and couldn't be deleted.
Next App load : Root App Deleter - says it all. I ran it in "Junior" mode (so no irrepairable damage can be done) and "disabled" everything I culd recognise - this removes the icon from the desktop, but does not delete the App. I will wait a few days and if nothing falls over, I will go back and run as "Professional" which allows permanent (and irreplaceable) deletion.
Next App : Root Explorer which, like a file explorer, lets you look everywhere.
Next App : Titanium Backup - allows you to backup to SD card or elsewhere Apps, setting etc.
Logged into Google / Playstore, clicked "My Apps" and started downloading all of teh Android Apps I wanted to replicate on the tablet (TV, Radio, AllCast, Netflix . . . etc)
There are a few very important apps which are involved with the Root, so Icreated a Root folder and moved all of the icons into it. ALso there were a few Chinese icons that I could not get ris of, so they went in the folder as well. I then moved it to the last desktop well out of the way - out of sight, out of mind
Interestingly, it looks like the full phone hardware is built in as well - along with SMS messaging app there is a phone dialler. I *#06# on the keypad and got an IMEI response and there is a phone onhook/offhook ability, so I assume there is a workin phone. Without a SIM, I cant try it (yet).
Downside : the wireless receiver is a little deaf - my iPad gets a 90% signal almost everywhere int he hosue, this droped the signal upstairs and gives a 75% signal strength within sight of the wireless router. This is a common complaint with Chinese phones and tablets.
So, for less than £100, you get a 9.7" iPad looking tablet, running Android 4.4.2 - not bad at all.
Quick update - PAYG 3G sim works fine- it is a phone as well, works perfectly but a bit large to hold to the ear - so a phone headset is best.
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Its one of your everyday apps,fresh flash,no new apps installed here...and of course it would stop,you stopped [email protected] system,even on test devices this is not an issue. Reflash,install app by app one at a time and youll find culprit....takes time but I can say with certainty ciq is NOT causing the issue your experiencing.
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This might be a little late but I was searching Google for a solution, and stumbled onto this thread.
I think I have an answer to this. I just rooted my HTC One M8 (running 4.4.4 on AT&T), and started reinstalling apps. The stock 4.4.4 ROM might not have C IQ, but I think the HTC Service Pack (v. 1.1.853606) patches it onto devices. This is auto-installed inside of the Google Play store, I just saw it installing about a month ago and didn't realize it contained Carrier IQ.
The reason why I think this delivers it, is because around that date, I also noticed my "GPS signal" icon turning on, even when Wifi+4G+GPS were all turned off. I downloaded the Voodoo CarrierIQ Detector and confirmed that "Carrier IQ has been found and is active."
The app gives me these details:
detection score: 270
ROM binaries and daemons
/system/lib/libiq_client.so
/system/lib/libiq_service.so
Running processes
system 3815 1605............diagandroid.iqd
Suspicious classes
com.carrieriq.iqagent.service.receivers.BootCompletedReceiver
So, somehow, in the few apps I've installed, Carrier IQ has definitely been added, and is definitely recording data.
EDIT: Actually, I'm starting to find some of the files. Using File Explorer (FX) on a rooted HTC One M8, I looked in (from the 'Home page' of the app):
Code:
System(root) > system > app
I see the "HtcResetNotify.apk" and .odex files. I'll attempt to delete and modify the files listed in the first post and confirm that I can manually remove them.
EDIT 1.5: I couldn't find three of the files the original post had listed for delete (all in the /system/framework folder):
frameworkEDIAG.jar
frameworkEDIAG.odex
framework-res.odex
EDIT 2: Deleting files went fine. I copied over the other files and...well....my phone immediately rebooted and it's now stuck on the 'htc one' splash page during boot. I'm praying that someone has the original files for the 3 "MODIFIED" files. Anyone?
EDIT 3: All is not lost! I forced a reboot (Power+Volume Up) and it came back on. I checked the folders where I deleted, and the libiq_client/_service files were back. Deleted those again. The other files I deleted seem to be back as well...not sure what happend.
EDIT 4: Ok, so in case anyone finds this. I have a rooted HTC One M8, and I want to keep it stock (except for the root). My solution was to get two apps:
1. "AutoStarts." This was a paid app ($1.60 USD I think?) but ended up not having Carrier IQ in the process list. I did end up using it to block other auto-starting applications, and it immensely sped up my boot time and kept the OS running smoothly for long stretches, no reboots required.
2. "MyAndroidTools." This was free (I think it has a paid version) and allowed me to find and disable the Carrier IQ process. Note that this app is made by the same developer as "Disable Services," less filter features in Disable Services but no ads as far as I can tell. Same exact processes show up though, and the disabled/enabled carries through between MAT and DS.
After setting MyAndroidTools up to disable Carrier IQ (found under "Service" type -> "System" tab -> "Android System" item), I used "Voodoo Carrier IQ" to check for the process. It found the files, but said it was inactive.
However, either after rebooting or a long enough period, it seems to be running again according to Voodoo. I have not seen it turn on GPS anymore, so MyAndroidTools may at least prevent it from re-hooking and turning on GPS. Maybe it's just on and logging local actions, I'm not sure. But I still have not seen in show in Autostarts; if it did, I would hope to step the process from re-hooking completely.
Hopefully someone getting here from Google will find some of this helpful.
Dondula,
You're not crazy. This IS an issue. There are several others experiencing the problem with the IQ Agent constantly turning on the GPS. It seems to happen anytime your service changes (no service -> 4G <-> 4GLTE). It is particularly bad for me as my office building gets poor LTE reception, so my phone is constantly going from 4G to LTE and wreaking havoc on my battery. I haven't found any solution yet.
Douglas_D said:
Dondula,
You're not crazy. This IS an issue. There are several others experiencing the problem with the IQ Agent constantly turning on the GPS. It seems to happen anytime your service changes (no service -> 4G <-> 4GLTE). It is particularly bad for me as my office building gets poor LTE reception, so my phone is constantly going from 4G to LTE and wreaking havoc on my battery. I haven't found any solution yet.
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I was able to get rid of this issue by disabling the carrier IQ service. I did this using an application called Disable Service from the Google Play store.
Works like a charm, and has the added advantage of disabling the IQ service intrusion.
I was waiting to buy the upcoming iPhone (Blasphemy!) but I just love how unique Find X is. It is going to be up for pre-order next week and I need some advice from you users.
- How durable is that 'mechanism'?
- Are you guys able to replace the stock launcher with something like Nova or Ruthless launcher with google now feed?
- Does the surface of the retracting mechanism get covered with dust over time?
- Have any other serious complaints about the phone in general?
Thanks in advance. Will really appreciate your input. Cheers!
prophet558 said:
I was waiting to buy the upcoming iPhone (Blasphemy!) but I just love how unique Find X is. It is going to be up for pre-order next week and I need some advice from you users.
- How durable is that 'mechanism'?
- Are you guys able to replace the stock launcher with something like Nova or Ruthless launcher with google now feed?
- Does the surface of the retracting mechanism get covered with dust over time?
- Have any other serious complaints about the phone in general?
Thanks in advance. Will really appreciate your input. Cheers!
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- How durable is that 'mechanism'?
Seems pretty solid but we won't know for a while!
- Are you guys able to replace the stock launcher with something like Nova or Ruthless launcher with google now feed?
Try looking in the forum, about three posts down in the "Killing apps" thread
- Does the surface of the retracting mechanism get covered with dust over time?
Not so far but, it looks pretty easy to clean the dust away
- Have any other serious complaints about the phone in general?
Power management is a B*&CH. See the same thread about "Killing Apps"
https://forum.xda-developers.com/find-X/help/killing-apps-screen-off-arghh-t3818105
Monty Burns said:
- How durable is that 'mechanism'?
Seems pretty solid but we won't know for a while!
- Are you guys able to replace the stock launcher with something like Nova or Ruthless launcher with google now feed?
Try looking in the forum, about three posts down in the "Killing apps" thread
- Does the surface of the retracting mechanism get covered with dust over time?
Not so far but, it looks pretty easy to clean the dust away
- Have any other serious complaints about the phone in general?
Power management is a B*&CH. See the same thread about "Killing Apps"
https://forum.xda-developers.com/find-X/help/killing-apps-screen-off-arghh-t3818105
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Thanks a lot for the response. I have used ColorOS recently (Oppo Realme 1) and the Background app management was too aggressive.
prophet558 said:
Thanks a lot for the response. I have used ColorOS recently (Oppo Realme 1) and the Background app management was too aggressive.
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Yeah, it's on some sort of power trip (literally, in both senses of the phrase). That said, if you read through the thread i created, following a firmware upgrade yesterday and after a "settling period" things have been almost faultless today. My phone has been faultless and even thrown in a couple of reboots to challenge it and still been OK. My last problem of Gmail being forced to drop to 15 minute syncs instead of Push also seems to have resolved itself.
Now, i'm not sure if this is some sort of OS learning which apps I use, the firmware or just plain luck (or a combo) but, i'm now very happy with the device.
If you want your own launcher, it is entirely possible, as is removing the bloat (i'm running Nova) and there is no need to register with Oppo either. The link to achieve that is also in the thread I linked to.
I have no idea about battery life as when I'm at work it sits in a dock and then when i'm at home, it's also mostly in a dock so, battery life isn't really a concern but, i guess I'll find out this weekend!
prophet558 said:
I was waiting to buy the upcoming iPhone (Blasphemy!) but I just love how unique Find X is. It is going to be up for pre-order next week and I need some advice from you users.
- How durable is that 'mechanism'?
- Are you guys able to replace the stock launcher with something like Nova or Ruthless launcher with google now feed?
- Does the surface of the retracting mechanism get covered with dust over time?
- Have any other serious complaints about the phone in general?
Thanks in advance. Will really appreciate your input. Cheers!
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1: The mechanism feels very durable, and 95% of the time the camera pops up fast. I have encountered 5% of time when the camera would pop up but the camera app takes an additional second or two to load.
2: nope. Unable to use nova launcher unless you into adb and do all types of advanced phone geek thing or something.
3: there's noticeable dust on my camera module but doesn't seem to be a big deal.
The big issue with this phone you should take note is, like many Chinese roms, push notifications are delayed or broken if the app has been closed or in background too long. There is a work around for this -- you have to go to settings and turn battery optimization off AND lock the app in the app overview window. This is of course, not ideal and annoying as hell. Currently I only have crucial "must get notifications on time" apps locked, such as whatsapp, wechat and Gmail. So for the most part I can use the phone fine. But I do miss all other notifications such as airbnb messages, Facebook messages, LinkedIn messages, until I open those apps again. I could lock all of them down too, but I don't want to have like seven apps running in background at all times.
This is a problem with many Chinese version of Chinese phones. I don't know why they think battery optimization so aggressive it kills notifications is a good thing.
prophet558 said:
I was waiting to buy the upcoming iPhone (Blasphemy!) but I just love how unique Find X is. It is going to be up for pre-order next week and I need some advice from you users.
- How durable is that 'mechanism'?
- Are you guys able to replace the stock launcher with something like Nova or Ruthless launcher with google now feed?
- Does the surface of the retracting mechanism get covered with dust over time?
- Have any other serious complaints about the phone in general?
Thanks in advance. Will really appreciate your input. Cheers!
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1) Stock Android provides for incoming notifications to be seamless (automatic by default, individual 3rd party app settings may be different by default, but, can be easily toggled on). Oppo has severe restrictions on this, limiting to 5 user installed apps to start automatically on boot & 5 apps total to be locked in recent memory.
So, a high horsepower phone is basically muzzled, if you can deal with the angst of wondering if you're going to get timely notifications...... Perhaps if you use the stock email & messaging apps, these will likely work, but, I would steer clear of those....
2) No NFC, so, no tap to pay apps will work.
3) No VoLTE, no VoWI-FI
4) No status bar notification icons, no LED notification indicator.
5) If you use T-Mobile Digits & it isn't a top 5 protected app/one of your precious 5 to auto start on boot, it will log you out of the app on reboot & it will not work until you set it up again, resulting in missed messages & phone calls.
6) 3rd party clock apps: Again, if it's not a protected top 5 app, it will not keep proper time, resulting in missed alarms..... The stock clock works, but, it is a bare bones app at best, no snooze adjustment, locked into 5 minutes, SERIOUSLY?
7) Ad Blockers will work, but, intermittently, again, the top 5 protected app thing & even then, Oppo will kill it off at some point, resulting in having to restart the blocking.
8) If you choose to use a 3rd party launcher, you again lose some functionality. I use Chrome & frequently place shortcuts on my desktop from it.
NOT ON THIS PHONE, another swing & a miss....
9) Bluetooth devices:
Generally they work fine,but,if the device has a companion app,prepare for it (the app) to not work properly.
Example(s):
I have a pair of Jabra Elite Active 65t earbuds,pair-up & work fine,but,the companion app will not work,as it requires a plug-in app to fuel it. These various "plug-in" apps are typical & the companion apps work fine elsewhere,but,not on this phone.
Reason being,the "plug-in" app does not have a user interface,so,you cannot make the app a top 5 protected app to gain functionality,it simply won't work at all.
Ditto for smartwatches such as the Samsung line-up, for the same reason,no notifications,worked one day for me & broken the next,before & after the most recent Oppo update. That results in the Samsung smartwatch getting a lobotomy,only able to keep time & nothing more.
10) Package tracking apps:
Again,the top 5 protected thing,no timely updates & even then,mine simply did not refresh automatically,had to be done manually.
I could go on, but, in a nutshell, you're forced to make sacrifices as soon as you start using the phone. If this was a entry level/low storage/low RAM device, that's one thing.
But, it's not, basically a Lamborghini running on two cylinders, that's not what I paid for & why I sold mine 5 days after the most frustrating phone experience I've ever seen....
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Monty Burns said:
Yeah, it's on some sort of power trip (literally, in both senses of the phrase). That said, if you read through the thread i created, following a firmware upgrade yesterday and after a "settling period" things have been almost faultless today. My phone has been faultless and even thrown in a couple of reboots to challenge it and still been OK. My last problem of Gmail being forced to drop to 15 minute syncs instead of Push also seems to have resolved itself.
Now, i'm not sure if this is some sort of OS learning which apps I use, the firmware or just plain luck (or a combo) but, i'm now very happy with the device.
If you want your own launcher, it is entirely possible, as is removing the bloat (i'm running Nova) and there is no need to register with Oppo either. The link to achieve that is also in the thread I linked to.
I have no idea about battery life as when I'm at work it sits in a dock and then when i'm at home, it's also mostly in a dock so, battery life isn't really a concern but, i guess I'll find out this weekend!
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That's very reassuring for me. Are you able to view the screen on time in this device? (Dunno why colorOS hides that).
radioraheem2 said:
1: The mechanism feels very durable, and 95% of the time the camera pops up fast. I have encountered 5% of time when the camera would pop up but the camera app takes an additional second or two to load.
2: nope. Unable to use nova launcher unless you into adb and do all types of advanced phone geek thing or something.
3: there's noticeable dust on my camera module but doesn't seem to be a big deal.
The big issue with this phone you should take note is, like many Chinese roms, push notifications are delayed or broken if the app has been closed or in background too long. There is a work around for this -- you have to go to settings and turn battery optimization off AND lock the app in the app overview window. This is of course, not ideal and annoying as hell. Currently I only have crucial "must get notifications on time" apps locked, such as whatsapp, wechat and Gmail. So for the most part I can use the phone fine. But I do miss all other notifications such as airbnb messages, Facebook messages, LinkedIn messages, until I open those apps again. I could lock all of them down too, but I don't want to have like seven apps running in background at all times.
This is a problem with many Chinese version of Chinese phones. I don't know why they think battery optimization so aggressive it kills notifications is a good thing.
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Thanks for the response. Hope backgeound app management better with the Global ROM.
The international version goes on sale in India and the Philippines today. We should soon get an idea of what the phone is capable of when it isn't hobbled by the oppressive Chinese firmware.
KOLIOSIS said:
1) Stock Android provides for incoming notifications to be seamless (automatic by default, individual 3rd party app settings may be different by default, but, can be easily toggled on). Oppo has severe restrictions on this, limiting to 5 user installed apps to start automatically on boot & 5 apps total to be locked in recent memory.
So, a high horsepower phone is basically muzzled, if you can deal with the angst of wondering if you're going to get timely notifications...... Perhaps if you use the stock email & messaging apps, these will likely work, but, I would steer clear of those....
2) No NFC, so, no tap to pay apps will work.
3) No VoLTE, no VoWI-FI
4) No status bar notification icons, no LED notification indicator.
5) If you use T-Mobile Digits & it isn't a top 5 protected app/one of your precious 5 to auto start on boot, it will log you out of the app on reboot & it will not work until you set it up again, resulting in missed messages & phone calls.
6) 3rd party clock apps: Again, if it's not a protected top 5 app, it will not keep proper time, resulting in missed alarms..... The stock clock works, but, it is a bare bones app at best, no snooze adjustment, locked into 5 minutes, SERIOUSLY?
7) Ad Blockers will work, but, intermittently, again, the top 5 protected app thing & even then, Oppo will kill it off at some point, resulting in having to restart the blocking.
8) If you choose to use a 3rd party launcher, you again lose some functionality. I use Chrome & frequently place shortcuts on my desktop from it.
NOT ON THIS PHONE, another swing & a miss....
9) Bluetooth devices:
Generally they work fine,but,if the device has a companion app,prepare for it (the app) to not work properly.
Example(s):
I have a pair of Jabra Elite Active 65t earbuds,pair-up & work fine,but,the companion app will not work,as it requires a plug-in app to fuel it. These various "plug-in" apps are typical & the companion apps work fine elsewhere,but,not on this phone.
Reason being,the "plug-in" app does not have a user interface,so,you cannot make the app a top 5 protected app to gain functionality,it simply won't work at all.
Ditto for smartwatches such as the Samsung line-up, for the same reason,no notifications,worked one day for me & broken the next,before & after the most recent Oppo update. That results in the Samsung smartwatch getting a lobotomy,only able to keep time & nothing more.
10) Package tracking apps:
Again,the top 5 protected thing,no timely updates & even then,mine simply did not refresh automatically,had to be done manually.
I could go on, but, in a nutshell, you're forced to make sacrifices as soon as you start using the phone. If this was a entry level/low storage/low RAM device, that's one thing.
But, it's not, basically a Lamborghini running on two cylinders, that's not what I paid for & why I sold mine 5 days after the most frustrating phone experience I've ever seen....
Sent from my HUAWEI BKL-L04 using XDA Labs
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Really appreciate the response. That seems a lot of sacrifices which I can make except for the Smartwatch thing. Do you think the Wear OS watches will crippled the same was as the Gear ones? (Despite Wear OS being a single app with no companion apps unlike the Gear)
prophet558 said:
Really appreciate the response. That seems a lot of sacrifices which I can make except for the Smartwatch thing. Do you think the Wear OS watches will crippled the same was as the Gear ones? (Despite Wear OS being a single app with no companion apps unlike the Gear)
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If you don't make it a "Top 5 Protected" app, count on it not syncing properly/automatically.
krabman said:
The international version goes on sale in India and the Philippines today. We should soon get an idea of what the phone is capable of when it isn't hobbled by the oppressive Chinese firmware.
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They have given a tentative delivery date - 5th of August on Flipkart (India).
Screw it I just pre-ordered it (Bordeaux Red). Shipping starts from 4th of August. Hope the phone gets relatively better with the Global Indian ROM. Thank you all for your inputs.
Does it has hi dac like vivo nex ?
rowihel2012 said:
Does it has hi dac like vivo nex ?
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No it doesn't.
KOLIOSIS said:
If you don't make it a "Top 5 Protected" app, count on it not syncing properly/automatically.
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As a Wear OS user (Polar M600) i can absolutely CONFIRM what Koliosis is saying and this is not just limited to Samsung Watches.
That said, my watch has been fine now for 2 days and, even after a reboot, the same apps are still auto-run and remain locked. I actually like this solution now BUT, why the FRACK have they restricted it to only 5 apps!?
Anyway, as an example, my locked and running fine apps are:
Wear OS
The Crypto App (so it's widget runs OK - take note, to run a widget, the PARENT app needs to be locked sometimes)
WhatsApp
Gmail
Google Calendar (again, for it's widget)
Now, for me, this is perfectly OK and I have no need to even want to lock other apps (like Facebook) as i'm not interested however, you need to assess YOUR needs which may be more apps.
edit: Oh, oddly, i've got the Sony Experia clock widget installed and that runs perfectly even without being locked and I've no idea why!
Also, I've got the red and it looks stunning. Easily the best looking phone i've ever owned. You'll be happy with the physical design.
prophet558 said:
They have given a tentative delivery date - 5th of August on Flipkart (India).
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Same here, will share my inputs once I receive the device :fingers-crossed:
Funk Wizard said:
Same here, will share my inputs once I receive the device :fingers-crossed:
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Looking forward to it....
I'd be open to getting the phone again,provided the version you'll be getting won't be locked-down,as far as Auto-Start/RAM/recents/app permissions go.
If you've perused the threads here,you're aware of the limitations the users have with the Chinese version,I sure hope your experience is leaps & bounds better.............. :good:
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Looking forward to it....
I'd be open to getting the phone again,provided the version you'll be getting won't be locked-down,as far as Auto-Start/RAM/recents/app permissions go.
If you've perused the threads here,you're aware of the limitations the users here have with the Chinese version,I sure hope your experience is leaps & bounds better.............. :good:
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If these restrictions do not exist on a non-Chinese version, I'll be flashing as soon as it is possible and a method is detailed!
KOLIOSIS said:
Looking forward to it....
I'd be open to getting the phone again,provided the version you'll be getting won't be locked-down,as far as Auto-Start/RAM/recents/app permissions go.
If you've perused the threads here,you're aware of the limitations the users have with the Chinese version,I sure hope your experience is leaps & bounds better.............. :good:
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I am positive for a better experience on the Indian version which is already better in terms of bloat and hopefully we can do a workaround for the other issues. I will keep you posted. Currently it's a long wait as the tentative delivery is 5th August so I'll share my inputs after playing with the machine for a couple of days
Many thanks for your inputs so far and the adb workaround for bloat.
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