Anyone have this trouble? - Xperia Z2 Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've update my xperia tablet z2 and everything works fine but i have noticed that my memory ram has been reduced, before I was like 1.6 GB free ram, but with this update i've got 1.2GB or less, i have the same applications I have not modified anything, I just update, i wonder if someone got the same problem updating or its just me, thank you

rokrd1579 said:
I've update my xperia tablet z2 and everything works fine but i have noticed that my memory ram has been reduced, before I was like 1.6 GB free ram, but with this update i've got 1.2GB or less, i have the same applications I have not modified anything, I just update, i wonder if someone got the same problem updating or its just me, thank you
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Update? What was the update that you did? Mine is still up to date

MXVZ said:
Update? What was the update that you did? Mine is still up to date
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When i connected yesterday my tablet, sony pc companion shows a new update number 17.1.2.A.0.314, so i decide to update, but when I turn on my tablet I see from 1.3GB to 995MB free memory of RAM, and I was wondering if someone else got this trouble...

rokrd1579 said:
When i connected yesterday my tablet, sony pc companion shows a new update number 17.1.2.A.0.314, so i decide to update, but when I turn on my tablet I see from 1.3GB to 995MB free memory of RAM, and I was wondering if someone else got this trouble...
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Don't mean to ask, but is the reduction of RAM causing a lack of performance or something? Sometimes my RAM fills on Cyanogenmod, but I do not notice it hindering my preformance. If you really need to know what is going on, you could download a task manager (or task killer) and see which tasks are using your memory.

Maybe this update reserves more memory for system apps, I don't know. Have you tried restarting the tablet and see if it has more free ram memory after restarting?
Also, did this update by any chance add multiple user account support to the LTE tablet ?

degraaff said:
Maybe this update reserves more memory for system apps, I don't know. Have you tried restarting the tablet and see if it has more free ram memory after restarting?
Also, did this update by any chance add multiple user account support to the LTE tablet ?
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I did it 3 times and nothing, i just have WIFI version and its added multi users

Wifi version? Are you sure? Because as far as I know, 17.1.2.A.0.314 has not yet rolled out for the wifi version o.o
And have you, or anyone at your home, used the multi user function before the update? Or only started to use it after the update? Or not used multi user at all?
Having an extra user account active would take up extra RAM, no doubt.
But 995 MB of free RAM is still very decent though, it's still much more than most other tablets on the market.

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[Q] Why is Android so crap at managing memory?

I'm currently using CronosDroid 2.13 (2.1) and was on Modaco 3.2 (1.5) previously.
Within 10 mins of switching on my phone Taskiller widget reports only 30-35mb of free memory. No problem right? 30mb is more than enough? Wrong. Anytime free memory drops below about 50mb phone gets stupidly sluggish.
I do have 120+ apps installed, but surely you should be able to do that on a platform that has 50,000+ apps available? I know HTC Hero is 1 year old hardware, but hardly obselete.
Is it just me or does Android suck at managing memory? I'm not a dev, but surely memory management is a key part of an OS..?
Is there something I'm doing wrong? Anyone else have this problem?
It's starting to get annoying having to kill all tasks every 15 mins....
BoogWeed said:
I'm currently using CronosDroid 2.13 (2.1) and was on Modaco 3.2 (1.5) previously.
Within 10 mins of switching on my phone Taskiller widget reports only 30-35mb of free memory. No problem right? 30mb is more than enough? Wrong. Anytime free memory drops below about 50mb phone gets stupidly sluggish.
I do have 120+ apps installed, but surely you should be able to do that on a platform that has 50,000+ apps available? I know HTC Hero is 1 year old hardware, but hardly obselete.
Is it just me or does Android suck at managing memory? I'm not a dev, but surely memory management is a key part of an OS..?
Is there something I'm doing wrong? Anyone else have this problem?
It's starting to get annoying having to kill all tasks every 15 mins....
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You should make friends with dkelley. He has 160+ apps, and after hacre modified Froyd to work for loads of apps, he stopped getting lags.
Not sure what the fix was though, but I'm sure it still carries through to today...

Vibrant app memory confusion

Friends
I have searched on numerous fronts but have never found the solution to my problem. The issue is, on the vibrant I have 2 GB internal memory for app installation, with 512 mb ram (I think) to run the apps, in addition to 16 GB of internal storage for files and what not.
However, having 1.4 GB 'app' memory free currently, whenever I install any further apps, some of the existing apps start to crash/restart whenever I need to use them. For example, I use LPP, and when I install some more apps on the phone, LPP homescreen icons disappear whatever action I do (open an app, use an app, etc), and then they reload for about 15-20 seconds when I go to the homescreen again. I have about 35-55 MB RAM free at any given time.
My question is, why give 2 GB app installation memory when you still cannot use it to install apps since they start giving you all sort of problems? I am running stock t-mobile eclair and have recently rooted my phone.
you know what, i think all you need is a task killer or clean your phone or something.. just find a way to free up some space.. 35-55MB is hella low.
Hmm, whats the normal free ram for stock 2.1 vibrant supposed to be? I have not tinkered around with my phone much so am wondering how it could have gotten low to that extent. All the apps that I use are also well known and from reputable developers...
Got any clues?
dunno when i was running 2.1 i was always at 80-120 free range with apps running..
try getting a task killer and kill all running apps..
also check settings > applications > running services > tap and kill processes you dont need running
This still does not answer my question about why there is 2 GB of app memory available...? regardless of RAM..?
umaronly said:
This still does not answer my question about why there is 2 GB of app memory available...? regardless of RAM..?
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Incase people want 2 gigs worth of apps? and if i remember right you have 16gigs storage and then 2gigs of that is partitioned for apps
ionic7 said:
Incase people want 2 gigs worth of apps? and if i remember right you have 16gigs storage and then 2gigs of that is partitioned for apps
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Yeah, but then what about what I wrote in my first post? It does not make sense if you can 'theoretically' install 2 GB worth of apps but renders the phone useless in function?
Anyone who is actually using close to 2 GB worth of memory for apps on vibrant/Galaxy S?? Would love to hear what you have to say.

Root S3 to make more free ram available??

If I root my S3 is it possible to make more ram available to me?
With all apps closed I have 650/780 being used so that only leaves me with 130mb of ram.
uf21 said:
If I root my S3 is it possible to make more ram available to me?
With all apps closed I have 650/780 being used so that only leaves me with 130mb of ram.
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Jesus. There's a huge panic now because the variant has 2 gigs of ram...
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
You actually have more free, but the android has a lot of it saved for caching, etc. For example, Facebook takes 40 mb, but when I open it only like 5 or 10 mb of the ram shown as "available" is taken away because parts of it are actually open already.
But yes, if you root it, and a developer adjusts the Minfree to a large amount you will have more free but your phone will probably be slower.
Folks need to keep in mind, that keeping RAM free as you would with a Windows based OS, is NOT ideal in Android. Android uses RAM completely differently and it is perfectly okay for your phone to make use of RAM, even for apps you are not currently using.
There's a fair amount of documentation out there about this - do some Google-fu to deep dive further.
Actually I ask because when I was trying to send a picture in whatsapp it kept sayin "try again" but when I closed all tasks in multitask the picture did send. So I'm guessing it is a ram problem.
Also take it easy on Mr. This is my first android phone, I've been using iphone since the 3g and don't know nothing about android..... yet
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You don't really want to much free ram. If there is to much free ram it means apps are not going in to cache witch will mean really slow app loading times. 200-300mb free is ample for new apps to run, if the OS needs more then its auto memory management will come in to play to free up more if needed, android is a very smart peace of kit
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if anyone were to choose pre-caching order for faster load times ( usually just by seconds than non-pre-cached) to no random force closes because there is more free memory, they would chose more free memory.
but since the experts have already said android memory doesn't work the same way like windows does, then the best would be a balance between cache and free memory. right? right. that's where official updates and dev fixes come in.

Is this true - internal storage only 2 gb???

I saw this on another forum. Is this true? It would make it unusable to me, and I just ordered one before seeing this. Do we not have at least 12 GB free for apps?
"..an issue I do not know how to resolve. It comes w 4.3 pre installed but the internal storage is not unified (due to USB storage enabled) so just under 2GB is allocated as app storage. This being the setup on older android version we had the option to move individual apps to the secondary partition b within the app option but this being 4.3 this option does not exist so this really puts a damperbn usability of this device."
lightfire said:
I saw this on another forum. Is this true? It would make it unusable to me, and I just ordered one before seeing this. Do we not have at least 12 GB free for apps?
"..an issue I do not know how to resolve. It comes w 4.3 pre installed but the internal storage is not unified (due to USB storage enabled) so just under 2GB is allocated as app storage. This being the setup on older android version we had the option to move individual apps to the secondary partition b within the app option but this being 4.3 this option does not exist so this really puts a damperbn usability of this device."
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I'm guessing this is the US variation of the Mate 2 you are taking about. I already have a lot of apps installed and it's still telling me I have 4.2 gigs available for app storage. Hope that answers your question
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Coffee Freak said:
I'm guessing this is the US variation of the Mate 2 you are taking about. I already have a lot of apps installed and it's still telling me I have 4.2 gigs available for app storage. Hope that answers your question
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Thanks! Yes to USA version.
Does anyone know how much memory is available out of the box for apps?
lightfire said:
Thanks! Yes to USA version.
Does anyone know how much memory is available out of the box for apps?
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If you add what it says is available to the what it says I'm using, it totals 6.81 GB. I doubt that includes system apps, as I said I have a lot installed. I had to keep them all on the phone because the ones I moved to the SD card the widgets didn't load on restart and I wasn't getting notifications.
Hope this helps you.
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Thanks!
But 6.81 is pretty bad - some 16gb phones have around 12 gb for apps. What in the world is taking up so much memory? I need to install copilot maps which are over 4 gb plus all the other software I use. Don't know if this is going to work for me. Heck - I have almost 5.52 gb free for apps on a 8gb moto-g phone
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Thanks!
But 6.81 is pretty bad - some 16gb phones have around 12 gb for apps. What in the world is taking up so much memory? I need to install copilot maps which are over 4 gb plus all the other software I use. Don't know if this is going to work for me. Heck - I have almost 5.52 gb free for apps on a 8gb moto-g phone
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Well, screen shots of my internal file system storage. My phone is rooted so I could free up more space deleting some system apps I don't use like Facebook but people had to reinstall the system apps they deleted to get the last update to install, and I don't feel like messing with that. I just disabled them. Can you install your co-pilot apps on the SD card?
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No, I don't think the maps can be loaded on sd card.
Darn - I purchased without checking this out - figured if my 8 gb phone had 5.52 gb free a 16 gb phone would have around 12. My fault for not doing proper research. Everyone was saying how much they like the phone. and I let that sway me. Guess I will send it back as 6.81 gb free in 2014 is almost $99 phone territory.
Looks like copilot is downloading fine. I'll let you know if I have issues after it completes.
It gives you the option to use extsd as default storage.
You are showing 12.69 GB available internal storage for apps. Is this correct? Or is it the 10.50 that is available to apps?
Yes 12.69 available. But when I go into settings > manage apps it states 5.8gb for apps. I believe it uses internal/external for app data, so I believe you'll be OK
check in the copilot options. maybe it has the ability to choose where to save the map data
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Ram management

Hi everyone, I'm running fully stock latest nougat software, and I seem to have an issue with the phones ram management, using the dev check app I see that even when there are no apps running I only get around 1500 megabytes of ram available out of 3780, which seems inappropriate, since this phone is running pure Android. Would be nice to know if anyone else is having the same issue, and if so, are there any suggestions on how to solve it
Same, my RAM is filled up to 2.7-3.2 GB usually, with not too many apps installed. But I guess it just caches a lot and frees those caches once you actually need the ram
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Hi everyone, I'm running fully stock latest nougat software, and I seem to have an issue with the phones ram management, using the dev check app I see that even when there are no apps running I only get around 1500 megabytes of ram available out of 3780, which seems inappropriate, since this phone is running pure Android. Would be nice to know if anyone else is having the same issue, and if so, are there any suggestions on how to solve it
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I have motor z with unlocked bootloader, stock rom 7.0, added some app , now used ram indicated in settings are 1.8 from 3.7 . It's litlle high , but the reffernce ia for last 3 hours. Not in real time.
This is fairly normal with Android, and linux in general. MOst of your RAM usage is coming from caching.
To get a better feel for this, you would want to go to developers options > running services.
If we take mine for example:
Settings > RAM says 2.3GB in a 3 hour period.
If I look in that developer option:
1.5GB is dedicated to the System
865MB for APPS
Which gives me 1.3GB Free
If I move over to the Cached portion I see that 872MB is being used for cached processes.

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