Hello this is my first post here and all I'm wondering if I flash an older stock ROM to downgrade would that trip Knox? I can't seem to get a straight answer from looking around the forums and google. I just want to use towelroot (I have NG3 so no towelroot) so I can have root without Knox 0x1. Sorry if I missed something that tells me my answer but can't seem to find anything.
littlepip357 said:
Hello this is my first post here and all I'm wondering if I flash an older stock ROM to downgrade would that trip Knox? I can't seem to get a straight answer from looking around the forums and google. I just want to use towelroot (I have NG3 so no towelroot) so I can have root without Knox 0x1. Sorry if I missed something that tells me my answer but can't seem to find anything.
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You can definitely downgrade without tripping your Knox counter.. Download the full tar from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761412 and use Odin on your PC to flash down to NE6. If you want to upgrade to NG3 and stay rooted you have to purchase mobile Odin pro from the play store and upgrade to NG3 that way.
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Here's the steps you must follow to upgrade to NG3 and keep root without tripping your Knox counter http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s5/general/update-to-g00tuvu1bng3-losing-root-t2834168
littlepip357 said:
Hello this is my first post here and all I'm wondering if I flash an older stock ROM to downgrade would that trip Knox? I can't seem to get a straight answer from looking around the forums and google. I just want to use towelroot (I have NG3 so no towelroot) so I can have root without Knox 0x1. Sorry if I missed something that tells me my answer but can't seem to find anything.
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You didn't search quite far enough as the question has been posed and answered quite a few times. Anyway, yes you can downgrade on the S5. Samsung may block that in the future with something called a qfuse, but at this time it works fine. It won't trip Knox unless you have really bad luck e.g. interrupting the write. Do the downgrade from a notebook as a power interruption (as unlikely as that may be) on a desktop computer could crash and increment the Knox flag.
Provided that you have a 900T model or at least a non-Exynos model, then revert to a pre June 3rd 4.4.2 firmware build for your S5 model with Odin. Then Towel root will work on the earlier firmware.
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Thanks for your replies. Got root working with knox 0x0.
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Hi, I have a few questions about backing up app data and also about root. first of all I rooted my Note 3 using Kingo Root several months ago, but recently received a minor update and lost root, but the device status is still "modified." Is that normal? Also, because the status is modified I can't receive major updates (Kitkat 4.4) so what I want to do is go back to stock 4.3 but I have to back up my data first. what I want to know is- is there a way to backup not only apps but their data as well? like S-note notes and action memo notes, sketchbook sketches, etc? Also because I read that kingo root is so shady, is there a better way to root the Galaxy Note 3?
Thank you!
back up & restore app data with clockworkmod recovery
Hi,
You can back up the complete system with clockworkmod recovery.
searching clockworkmod recovery on chip or other download sites.
>Root :
there is no better or worse
either root or not.
multiwirth said:
Hi,
You can back up the complete system with clockworkmod recovery.
searching clockworkmod recovery on chip or other download sites.
>Root :
there is no better or worse
either root or not.
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Thank you for the reply, however, I am on stock recovery and would like to stay there. I was hoping for an app or something to back up, and I know titanium backup would do it but I no longer have root after the minor update. I could reroot, but the only method I know of is kingo root. What other methods are there for the Note 3? Thanks again.
root
Try One Click Root
Or search Root with restore (.bat Windows tool) (Works on many devices)
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Can you speak German ?
You follow this Description :
http://www.androidpit.de/forum/572475/tutorial-root-zugriff-beim-samsung-galaxy-note-3-sm-n9005-einrichten
multiwirth said:
Try One Click Root
Or search Root with restore (.bat Windows tool) (Works on many devices)
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Can you speak German ?
You follow this Description :
http://www.androidpit.de/forum/5724...eim-samsung-galaxy-note-3-sm-n9005-einrichten
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Ok, thanks.
By the way, is Kingo still frowned upon here? Or have things changed?
UncleDaddySwiss said:
Ok, thanks.
By the way, is Kingo still frowned upon here? Or have things changed?
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I do not know Kingo, therefore, can not say anything good or bad about it.
multiwirth said:
I do not know Kingo, therefore, can not say anything good or bad about it.
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I know I read on here a while back that they might be transferring information about devices, etc, to their servers. I didn't know if that was actually confirmed or debunked. Anyone else know? I know that method works, but don't want to use if that's the fact. I am leary of trying something new at first, but will with enough research (obviously lol.)
Also, while I'm here, the ultimate goal here is to get back to stock temporarily so I can update to 4.4, once I backup everything, if I flash the stock FW 4.3, even if I am rooted at the time, it should work right? Any consequences like Knox tripping?
Thank you for all the help
Ok, I've read some of the threads on here about Kingo and don't want to use it, so my question now is, is there a good root method for the Note 3 that doesn't trip Knox? The one-click method mentioned earlier appears to be Kingo from my Google searches.
What is with this :
http://uploaded.net/file/bex0izfv
That is an .bat Windows CMD Program
It´s very easy. :good:
Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
multiwirth said:
What is with this :
http://uploaded.net/file/bex0izfv
That is an .bat Windows CMD Program
It´s very easy. :good:
Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
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Thanks I'll check it out. :good:
By the way, does it trip Knox? I couldn't see anything about it in the thread.
I don´t understand what is "Knox" ?
What has Knox to do with this ?
multiwirth said:
I don´t understand what is "Knox" ?
What has Knox to do with this ?
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The Samsung Galaxy Note 3 has Knox, the security feature, and if it's tripped, there goes your warranty. I thought all Note 3s had that. I just don't want to lose my warranty. Isn't Knox the flash counter for the note 3?
When you root your Device, your warranty is lost !
Knox will also ever say "No Warranty" when you root the Note 3
It's up to you what you're doing
But warranty is waste when your Note 3 work
So you can root it.
When the Note 3 work now, it will work in 5 years :good:
multiwirth said:
When you root your Device, your warranty is lost !
Knox will also ever say "No Warranty" when you root the Note 3
It's up to you what you're doing
But warranty is waste when your Note 3 work
So you can root it.
When the Note 3 work now, it will work in 5 years :good:
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true, but from what I understand, you can flash official FW to unroot and the status will become "official" but if Knox is tripped there is no undoing that.
You can root the Note 3 and ignore Knox
Or when you can´t undo that and if you disturb this, don´t root the Note 3
But i think it´s no problem
Hey guys,
I apologize in advance for asking a question that's been asked probably hundreds of times, however everyone has a unique situation and I really don't have the time to read through all the pages to not get all of my questions answered.
I just got a new phone and i'd really love to root my phone without tripping Knox. I just bought this phone today and it came with the 1ANCH build number.
My questions are:
1) Will towel root work on my phone as is right now?
2) Apparently i'm not supposed to do updates OTA, how do I properly do them without losing root?
3) Are custom roms completely out of the picture if i'd want to keep Knox not tripped?
Thanks guys!
1. Yes towl root works great. I used it on my Galaxy s5.
2. If you do a Ota update you will loose root but after the update. You can just reroot. No big deal.
3. If your worried about tripping knox don't be. I have been flashing Rom since the Motorola Click days. Have sent bricked phones back to Tmobile, Sprint. And never even flashed back to stock. They completely wipe the devices anyways. So you should be good to go. Custom Rom Rock. Enjoy flashing!
Killing Aliens with my S5!
I'm on nf6 firmware if I use towel root will it root my tmobile Gs5 without tripping knox? I can root my Gs5 using towel root without a computer I can do it directly from my device right? Thanks
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Animoski said:
Hey guys,
I apologize in advance for asking a question that's been asked probably hundreds of times, however everyone has a unique situation and I really don't have the time to read through all the pages to not get all of my questions answered.
I just got a new phone and i'd really love to root my phone without tripping Knox. I just bought this phone today and it came with the 1ANCH build number.
My questions are:
1) Will towel root work on my phone as is right now?
2) Apparently i'm not supposed to do updates OTA, how do I properly do them without losing root?
3) Are custom roms completely out of the picture if i'd want to keep Knox not tripped?
Thanks guys!
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1 yes
2 you dont
3 for now yes
to update and retain root use mobile odin pro this does not trip knox
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xda23 said:
I'm on nf6 firmware if I use towel root will it root my tmobile Gs5 without tripping knox? I can root my Gs5 using towel root without a computer I can do it directly from my device right? Thanks
Sent from my SM-G900T using XDA Free mobile app
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towel root cant root nf6
Animoski said:
I really don't have the time to read through all the pages to not get all of my questions answered.
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You seem to think that your time is more valuable than ours. You'll excuse my brevity, but it seems that I don't have the time to elaborate upon my replies in this thread either.
You can use towel root on any TMobile S5, although some builds require a different procedure. There are myriad threads explaining this in more detail. Many of the same threads explain how to avail yourself of updates without losing root. And it is possible to use a custom recovery without incrementing Knox, although that isn't the norm. Simply writing a custom recovery will give you a 0x1 flag.
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Hello guys! I'm new to the S5 section and even more new to the T-Mobile area since I'm on AT&T network. I come from a S4 that I could root without tripping Knox and at least use different variants of TW rooms using Safestrap.
I was under the impression that Tmobile S5 version was not as tight as the AT&T version but after reading a few threads I'm not sure.
I have to say that I love the stock UI of S5 more than the one on the S4. That said I still would like to have more control over a few things.
So I could live with a rooted S5 with Xposed Installer and Wanam and a few other Xposed modules.
But I would not like to trip my phones Knox counter.
I wonder if that is possible under BNH5 firmware and how?
Can I root using Towelroot and intall Xposed, Wanam and a few other customization modules without tripping my phone's Knox counter?
Also Would I be able to go back to a virgin Stock Rom without tripping the counter?
I would appreciate all the help.
Thanks.
chiquito3 said:
I wonder if that is possible under BNH5 firmware and how?
Can I root using Towelroot and intall Xposed, Wanam and a few other customization modules without tripping my phone's Knox counter?
Also Would I be able to go back to a virgin Stock Rom without tripping the counter?
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You cannot root NH5 software directly with towel root, but there is a thread that shows exactly step by step how to downgrade to a version that towel root will root and then go back to the latest. This procedure does NOT trip Knox. Knox is tripped anytime you load a custom recovery or kernel.
So, if you just want root so you can run Xposed and Wannam and what not, that's not a problem and you can odin back to stock if you need to for a return. Look around here on the TMO S5 threads and you'll find all this hashed over and over.
Good Luck!
Hit thanks if I've helped.
chiquito3 said:
Hello guys! I'm new to the S5 section and even more new to the T-Mobile area since I'm on AT&T network. I come from a S4 that I could root without tripping Knox and at least use different variants of TW rooms using Safestrap.
I was under the impression that Tmobile S5 version was not as tight as the AT&T version but after reading a few threads I'm not sure.
I have to say that I love the stock UI of S5 more than the one on the S4. That said I still would like to have more control over a few things.
So I could live with a rooted S5 with Xposed Installer and Wanam and a few other Xposed modules.
But I would not like to trip my phones Knox counter.
I wonder if that is possible under BNH5 firmware and how?
Can I root using Towelroot and intall Xposed, Wanam and a few other customization modules without tripping my phone's Knox counter?
Also Would I be able to go back to a virgin Stock Rom without tripping the counter?
I would appreciate all the help.
Thanks.
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Yes you can root your phone but you will have to roll back the firmware back NE6 and then use towel root. Once you do that, then you can use pc odin to flash the nh5 firmware and use mobile odin pro to flash the NH5 software back onto your phone and retain root. Just remember that you will not trip knox using the method above, but if you flash a custom recovery or non tmo s5 kernel you will trip knox. There are a few threads here that you help you root and upgrade to keep root. Make sure you read thru some of the rooting threads before you do anything to your phone, It is your responsibility to make sure you know how and what your are doing when flash your phone, We are not responsible if you forget to read or flash something that is not for your type of phone, if you brick your phone or if you trip knox. Also Remember that if you do trip knox, there currently is no way to reset the knox counter, so please Do Not Ask.
Have fun and read before you decide to do anything to your phone..
Sorry for the question but could you pont me to the right thread. I found one that wad NJ ot so clear or explicit.
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chiquito3 said:
Sorry for the question but could you pont me to the right thread. I found one that wad NJ ot so clear or explicit.
Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784025
chiquito3 said:
Hello guys! I'm new to the S5 section and even more new to the T-Mobile area since I'm on AT&T network. I come from a S4 that I could root without tripping Knox and at least use different variants of TW rooms using Safestrap.
I was under the impression that Tmobile S5 version was not as tight as the AT&T version but after reading a few threads I'm not sure.
I have to say that I love the stock UI of S5 more than the one on the S4. That said I still would like to have more control over a few things.
So I could live with a rooted S5 with Xposed Installer and Wanam and a few other Xposed modules.
But I would not like to trip my phones Knox counter.
I wonder if that is possible under BNH5 firmware and how?
Can I root using Towelroot and intall Xposed, Wanam and a few other customization modules without tripping my phone's Knox counter?
Also Would I be able to go back to a virgin Stock Rom without tripping the counter?
I would appreciate all the help.
Thanks.
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First Question is do you have premium handset protection? If so then I wouldnt worry about Knox at all. Handset protection covers everything including running over your phone with a car . I have had devices that I didnt have insurance on in the past when I was a NOOB that had the warranty flag tripped and never had any problems at T-Mobile with replacing it . T-Mobile would rather replace a knox tripped phone over replacing a phone with a cracked screen because they just re-flash the device and pass it along to the next person . It doesnt cost them anything like it would having to repair cracked screens etc... I have the S5 G900T and I rooted while I was still in the T-Mobile store buying it LOL . The sales guy told me their was no way to root it at the time (which he was wrong ). Anyway I understand kind of why you wouldnt want to trip knox but at the end of the day it really wont matter if tmobile is your carrier . There really isnt a difference between a tripped phone and one that isnt when it comes to getting it replaced . I know this from experience and many many others on XDA will tell you the same .
spirodave said:
T-Mobile would rather replace a knox tripped phone over replacing a phone with a cracked screen because they just re-flash the device and pass it along to the next person ..
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It's my understanding that the KNOX security flag is a electronic fuse. Once tripped it's burned to 1 state and a "re-flash" won't repair that.
That said, I could see T-Mobile taking it back because of the value of the replaceable parts, including an intact display. Enough profit is made on the extended protection plans that T-mobile could grind them all up and use them for fancy pavement surfacing. I've yet, for example to replace "anything" under an extended service plan. I get them to be careful, but there's been plenty of $$$ for those plan providers.
Extended service plans? Total and absolutely guaranteed profit for vendors.
galaxyuser88 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784025
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I read the towelroot thread but it does not say anything on how to downgrade firmware version.
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hI THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO
1. DOWNLOAD G900TUVU1ANE6 FULL STOCK TAR FROM HERE https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23501681358541270
2. uNZIP THE FILE AND FLASH IT USING PC ODIN. WHICH YOU CAN GET HERE https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23212708291676783
3. ROOT WITH TOWELROOT . TOWELROOT IS HERE https://towelroot.com/
4.DOWNLOAD MOBILE ODIN PRO FROM THE PLAYSTORE IT WILL COST YOU AROUND $6
5.DOWNLOAD THE NEWEST STOCK TAR TMB-G900TUVU1BNH5 FROM SAMMOBILE OR FOR A MUCH FASTER LINK GET IT HERE https://mega.co.nz/#!F0gFFIpL!SdOFS_5OSOB6b1WUSxfVR286LgrAeDdugRRC5-G0dQ8
6. UNZIP THE FILE AND COPY IT TO YOUR SDCARD OR INTERNAL STORAGE ON YOUR PHONE.
7. USING MOBILE ODIN PRO CHOOSE THE OPEN FILE SELECTION AND THEN CHOOSE THE FILE THAT YOU COPIED TO THE PHONE
8. IGNORE THE WARNING FROM MOBILE ODIN REGARDING KNOX. IT WONT TRIP. TICK EVEROOT AND INJECT SUPERSU FLASH THE PHONE .
YOUR PHONE SHOULD BE ROOTED UPON ONCE IT RESTARTS AND ON THE NEWEST FIRMWARE.
YOUR BOOTLOADER CAN NOT BE UPGRADED BY MOBILE ODIN. THAT CAN BE FLASHED SEPERATELY BY USING PC ODIN.LOOK FOR THE BOOTLOADER FILE IF YOU WISH TO UPGRADE IT BUT IN MY OPINION IT IS NOT CRITICAL TO INSTALL AT THIS POINT. MOST OF THESE FILES CAN BE FOUND HERE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761412 OR HERE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2715487
IF YOU CANT FIND SOMETHING USE GOOGLE.
FINALLY WHATEVER HAPPENS TO YOUR PHONE IS SOLELY YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
I WOULD READ THESE THREADS BEFORE DOIN G ANYTHING
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790292 http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s5/general/nh5-stock-rom-ur-phone-to-stock-t2901732 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784025 http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...all-updatetmb-g900tuvu1bnh5-size-1-5-t2873090 http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo.../experimental-how-to-root-triggering-t2845421
LASTLY YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT XPOSED DOES NOT PLAY WELL WITH THE S5 IT BREAKS PRIVACY MODE S HEALTH CAUSES LAG AND IS ONLY USEFUL ON DALVIK. ONCE ANDROID L IS RELEASED . IT WILL BE USING THE ART ANDROID RUNTIME WHICH IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH XPOSED .
HAVE FUN!
So I just got on teh internets a G900T with the latest firmware G900TUVS1FOL1 installed, and lo and behold, the Knox was still untripped! This however leads me to a minor dilemma; how can I keep said Knox untripped and root? I noticed in other threads that people have flashed TWRP and supersu for root but does this trip Knox? Is there any method as of now that doesn't? And while we're on the topic, what is the worst that can happen if I do trip knox? I did pay good money for the phone after all and I'd hate to lose good features. Thanks!
THErealYoDa said:
I noticed in other threads that people have flashed TWRP and supersu for root but does this trip Knox? Is there any method as of now that doesn't? And while we're on the topic, what is the worst that can happen if I do trip knox? I did pay good money for the phone after all and I'd hate to lose good features. Thanks!
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Yes flashing TWRP and supersu will trip knox. There is no known method to root the 5.1.1 firmware builds that will not trip knox. Nothing bad (really nothing at all) will happen if you trip knox
Downgrade to CNK2 to root without tripping knox
I should've been more specific, there is no way to root 5.1.1 (lollipop) without tripping knox. I was operating under the basic assumption the OP was sticking with lollipop. NK2 is a KitKat build
Rotting my g900t FOL1
thisisapoorusernamechoice said:
I should've been more specific, there is no way to root 5.1.1 (lollipop) without tripping knox. I was operating under the basic assumption the OP was sticking with lollipop. NK2 is a KitKat build
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Hello! Can you please give me the specific instructions on how to safely root my G900tuvs1fol1 ?! Thank you.
Question for you all...
I been seeing in a few spots this should be possible but I like to be safe rather than sorry.
Is it possible to do the following on a US Cellular S6 Edge Model: SM-G925R4? :
1 ) Downgrade to a Pingroot capable stock rom.
2) Use the root from that to use FlashFire to install something like CM.
3) Not Trip Knox.
If this is possible then can you extract and use Samsung Pay but using something like rootcloak on it with knox not tripped or is that not safe?
It doesnt work for my bank yet but it would be nice to have in the future.
TULOA said:
Question for you all...
I been seeing in a few spots this should be possible but I like to be safe rather than sorry.
Is it possible to do the following on a US Cellular S6 Edge Model: SM-G925R4? :
1 ) Downgrade to a Pingroot capable stock rom.
2) Use the root from that to use FlashFire to install something like CM.
3) Not Trip Knox.
If this is possible then can you extract and use Samsung Pay but using something like rootcloak on it with knox not tripped or is that not safe?
It doesnt work for my bank yet but it would be nice to have in the future.
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if u trip knox samsung will not work
installing custom rom like cm or something else will trip knox
if u want samsung pay dont root or do anything
I understand that but that wasnt my question.
Trying to find about doing the steps above.
Install official samsung down to rootable firmware then use that root with flashfire. Was told that method could work. However if I can just get root from a downgrade ill be happy.
Downgrading could be possible with Odin depending on y your firmware version. You can always try installing the earliest firmware for that particular variant. Worst thing to happen would be a failure of installation. The earliest firmware versions are compatible with pingpongroot , but if the su binaries are detected Samsung pay will fail no matter what
Yea and thats what rootcloak is for. But are all bootloaders locked based on date or carrier?
Version on mine:
G925R4TYU3CPB4
Now I suppose if I can flash an earlier stock will it trip knox? Also what would happen if it fails? Just says error and thats it?
TULOA said:
Yea and thats what rootcloak is for. But are all bootloaders locked based on date or carrier?
Version on mine:
G925R4TYU3CPB4
Now I suppose if I can flash an earlier stock will it trip knox? Also what would happen if it fails? Just says error and thats it?
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It is completely based on date. When I tried flashing an early firmware on my galaxy s4 installation failed and I just got a 'fail' message in Odin. No Knox issues. I would assume that would happen with you. Go give it a try. I am rather confident that it will fail on your device, but if it does no worries, just restore the latest firmware and live without root