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Can someone post all available frequencies(the voltage for lower than 600MHz and how much battery will it take comparing to the lower frequencies, eg 864 takes "x" battery more than 844)
Is there safe to use 864, and does it take to much battery, or not?
Thanks a lot
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frequencies below 600: 122, 245, 320, 480 (all of these use the same voltage)
frequencies above 600: 652, 672, 691, 710, 729, 748, 768, 787, 806 (the difference in battery varies depending on your governor and usage but generally, the higher the frequency the more battery it eats)
stability-wise, the only thing that can go wrong when you oc to 864 is a kernel panic. other than that it should be safe to use. however, in the long run i think it can harm your cpu (and yes it does use a lot of battery)
this is my understanding. if someone does not agree, feel free to point out what you believe is wrong
yep sweetnsour is right ...
All that can be added to what sweetnsour said is that there are three more frequencies over 600: 825, 844 and 864 MHz. But the chances for our CPU to be stable at any frequency above 806 MHz are very low.
Another notable side-effect to the overclock, beside quick battery depleting, is CPU overheating. I found my CPU to be stable at 806, but I went back to 729 just because the phone warmed up so much faster. At 729, I sense no difference compared to 600 MHz.
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All that can be added to what sweetnsour said is that there are three more frequencies over 600: 825, 844 and 864 MHz. But the chances for our CPU to be stable at any frequency above 806 MHz are very low.
Another notable side-effect to the overclock, beside quick battery depleting, is CPU overheating. I found my CPU to be stable at 806, but I went back to 729 just because the phone warmed up so much faster. At 729, I sense no difference compared to 600 MHz.
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Yes a rooted with other tuning needs no oc, but what is thr highest that will not harm anything on a long term...
And does 122-480MHz really have same voltage?
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Yes a rooted with other tuning needs no oc, but what is thr highest that will not harm anything on a long term...
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This is highly subjective, no one can tell for sure, except maybe the manufacturer. Buy in theory you should be safe with any frequency at which your CPU is stable and does not overheat. You will sell or trash the phone long before the overclock will affect anything.
And remember: the CPU spends a fairly low amount of time at the high frequency; most of the time it will fall back to the minimum, as long as there are no tasks requiring high processing power.
As far as I could gather in the 10 months I spent on this forum, the community agreed that 729 MHz is the most convenient value.
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This is highly subjective, no one can tell for sure, except maybe the manufacturer. Buy in theory you should be safe with any frequency at which your CPU is stable and does not overheat. You will sell or trash the phone long before the overclock will affect anything.
And remember: the CPU spends a fairly low amount of time at the high frequency; most of the time it will fall back to the minimum, as long as there are no tasks requiring high processing power.
As far as I could gather in the 10 months I spent on this forum, the community agreed that 729 MHz is the most convenient value.
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Yes, 728hz is the best value for performance and battery.
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Yes, 728hz is the best value for performance and battery.
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This flocking app needs thanks button...
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So the perfect is 480--729 SmartassV2 thanks...
Btw is the voltage really the same from 122 to 480?
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So the perfect is 480--729 SmartassV2 thanks...
Btw is the voltage really the same from 122 to 480?
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I personally dont use Smartassv2 as it has some wakelock problems, so try different governors and find out which works best for you.
Btw, you are using the wrong kernel for your rom(6.5.8), you should be using fserve kernel or 4 Sept kernel by Franco (.32).
Yaa 480--729 is the perfect.Above 768 phone becomes unstable.
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Yaa 480--729 is the perfect.Above 768 phone becomes unstable.
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And below 480 is same ****? I mean it won't do anything good to battery right?
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And below 480 is same ****? I mean it won't do anything good to battery right?
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Exactly!
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Exactly!
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Oh ye I got it *cool*
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Hey my is..
806/600 scary
But before 2 months i cant even overclock 768...how now 806??
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becuase governor is scary
Ohh...wen i removed my charger after 10 sec it gaved panic..ithink 768/480 is proper for me...nd can u give me details about the governer plz
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all using Smartass governer??
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all using Smartass governer??
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Smartassv2 cuz v1 its like a petformance governor, only at max cpu... v2 goes down when screen off...
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Smartassv2 cuz v1 its like a petformance governor, only at max cpu... v2 goes down when screen off...
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No true, smartass also caps when screen off
Why there is not dev try to plug different governor for user?
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I may have this wrong but I have read in earlier posts that the power managment on the tegra 2 is only set to work with the perfomace governor. It was tried with the power save governor but that had no effect and was actually more power hungry. I will try to find those refrences when I finish work.
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thx!
Tegra 2 has a built in hardware governor which is pretty good so there is no need to install software governors, in fact, installing a governor other than performance will impede performance and/or battery life by interfering with the on chip governor.
I believe the Tegra 2 drivers control the CPU speed. It overrides the governor. Performance and powersave are the simplest governors.
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In was just looking into this. I'm on neutrino, and no matter what kernel I seem to have, my CPU is locked to the max frequency. My battery life has been brutal and the phone gets too hot even after sending an email!
What is wrong?
Sorry for the ETA, and but I should be more clear..
When I open setcpu or antutu cpu master, and both report the highest selected cpu frequency constantly no matter what the conditions are.
Is the fact that I'm running a java application to control max frequency interfering with tegra 2's governor? Although I've see screen shots of atrix users in setcpu with the freq being not-the-max-freq.
Thanks for any help!
Note: I only ever have one over clock app installed at a time.
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Nevermind. Just installed milestone 6 and it's working fine.
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Alright what governor r u guys using? I'm using smartass2 and although I het excellent batt life when screen is off, it is a bit choppy and not as smooth as I would like.and it drains fairly fast when screen is on or plating angry birds for like 5 mins. I'm looking for something that's a good balance between smoothness and most importantly battery.
any ideas?
Try intellidemand. I have had good luck with it
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Try intellidemand. I have had good luck with it
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just switched to it.... whats ur battery and screen time?
Ive been using intellidemand.. works great when I want it to work like ondemand.. but scales up slower when I need it to I.e. text, email.. but playing games and surfing web it scales up faster like on-demand..
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famouscollin said:
Ive been using intellidemand.. works great when I want it to work like ondemand.. but scales up slower when I need it to I.e. text, email.. but playing games and surfing web it scales up faster like on-demand..
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have you set any special permaiters or anything? whats ur batt stats?
I use Wheatley. I usually get about 2h 15m to 2h 30m of screen time with the stock battery. No special tweaking to the parameters or anything either, just set it and you're good to go.
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just switched to it.... whats ur battery and screen time?
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This was today with lots of texting and some youtube and ESPN.
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I usually get 15 hours or so with 1:45-2 hoes screen time at best. This is on chingys 1.2 with global firmware and radios.
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I use Wheatley. I usually get about 2h 15m to 2h 30m of screen time with the stock battery. No special tweaking to the parameters or anything either, just set it and you're good to go.
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ive used lionheart, and it drained the batter SO fast. ima give wheatly a try on monday and intidemand tomorrow. compare the 2 results i guess lol
Battery stats on intellidemand are ok.. I'm a heavy user tho I use another OEM battery and an external charger and switch out thru the day.. I get about 1.5-2.0 hrs of screen time in about a 9-12hr period depending on what I'm doing.. sometimes I'll wake up and drain it dead in an hour and a half (dl, surfing, forums, texts few calls) I'm undervolted -50mv across the board. And set at 1.56ghz on viperrez using dsbs kernel..
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Battery stats on intellidemand are ok.. I'm a heavy user tho I use another OEM battery and an external charger and switch out thru the day.. I get about 1.5-2.0 hrs of screen time in about a 9-12hr period depending on what I'm doing.. sometimes I'll wake up and drain it dead in an hour and a half (dl, surfing, forums, texts few calls) I'm undervolted -50mv across the board. And set at 1.56ghz on viperrez using dsbs kernel..
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damn.... lol ima try wheatly and see how it is.... maybe ill switch to One xxxx rom
Going to ask the noob question, how do I get more governors?
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Going to ask the noob question, how do I get more governors?
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flash a kernel that has them. DSB is the one that i know of that has a lot of them.
now what govoner takes FULL advantage of both cores and focus sololy on preformace one that i can use for hardcore gaming
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now what govoner takes FULL advantage of both cores and focus sololy on preformace one that i can use for hardcore gaming
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It's called performance...
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It's called performance...
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no. preformace hasent turned on the 2nd core for me, also since it runs at max frequency all the time, and dosent scale down, unnessarly heat and ussage from the cpu builds up and cooks it. should only be uses for benchmarking IMO
Next noobish question. It's easy to find it in AOSP, but I can't find the governors in Sense ROMs. I'm currently using ViperRez.
Smartassv2 on ziggy kernel. Went about 15+ hrs with 2+ screen on hrs OC'd @ 1.8. I also tethered ALOT during the screen off period and ran multiple benchmarks. Stock battery
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no. preformace hasent turned on the 2nd core for me, also since it runs at max frequency all the time, and dosent scale down, unnessarly heat and ussage from the cpu builds up and cooks it. should only be uses for benchmarking IMO
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If you're using DSB's kernel (I am), his latest has pegasusq governor on it. It seems to turn on the 2nd core more often. I use system tuner pro and CPU Usage Monitor. CPU usage monitor allows you to put icons on the notification bar showing CPU speed AND cpu utilization for both cores. So you can see whats going on. Also system tuner allows you to 'force' the second core on. You can do this with Ondemand with good results. IMO
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If you're using DSB's kernel (I am), his latest has pegasusq governor on it. It seems to turn on the 2nd core more often. I use system tuner pro and CPU Usage Monitor. CPU usage monitor allows you to put icons on the notification bar showing CPU speed AND cpu utilization for both cores. Also system tuner allows you to 'force' the second core on. You can do this with Ondemand with good results. IMO
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it hasent work with me.... every time i force all cores online, the 2nd one still just shuts off auto mtcicallly. i just gavce up on that, but yea im thinking pegasusq will be best shot. or interactice for both gaming.
Hi everyone, I'm running houstonn's RootBox w/ his 167MHz kernel. Can someone post a screenshot of their CPU voltages? These are the ones Im using, I'm not sure if they are too low.
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I find that anything under 700000 leads to instability on my phone, but if that works for you, by all means go for it.
wow, im using mystery kernel and i can't set below 800mv, use both kernel tuner and faux clock.
Been using this for a day, everything seems to work fine. I keep my max CPU at 702MHz and max GPU at 325
Edit- I also keep two cores completely offline.
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Tyler44346 said:
Been using this for a day, everything seems to work fine. I keep my max CPU at 702MHz and max GPU at 325
Edit- I also keep two cores completely offline.
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... Do you go a week between access to electricity?
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Tyler44346 said:
Been using this for a day, everything seems to work fine. I keep my max CPU at 702MHz and max GPU at 325
Edit- I also keep two cores completely offline.
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What's the point of max 702MHz? That's slower than my old HTC Aria...
I know to each their own, but that just seems to defeat the purpose of having a quad core smartphone.
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What's the point of max 702MHz? That's slower than my old HTC Aria...
I know to each their own, but that just seems to defeat the purpose of having a quad core smartphone.
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I agree. With a decent governor, the device spends very little time at higher frequencies anyway, so there is relatively little additional battery drain... But I would imagine you'd run into a fair bit of lag for those times when the higher frequencies are needed...
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I agree. With a decent governor, the device spends very little time at higher frequencies anyway, so there is relatively little additional battery drain... But I would imagine you'd run into a fair bit of lag for those times when the higher frequencies are needed...
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Can't be terribly snappy with that setup.
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Like you guys said, with a great chipset, using low frequencies doesn't really take away from the performance, I only notice a slight difference, but my battery was lasting about 1 day 8 hours with 3-4 hours screen on and WiFi on, one to three bars, so not much battery gain. That's why I only used this for a few days testing. That's the whole reason why I posted this thread, I'm trying different settings.
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I'm just curious to see everyone's experience with the Faux kernel as opposed to the one that comes pre-installed.
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I'm just curious to see everyone's experience with the Faux kernel as opposed to the one that comes pre-installed.
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You have to read xda rules again.. Your free to use both of them and see it for your self without asking which is best in public!!
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I'm just curious to see everyone's experience with the Faux kernel as opposed to the one that comes pre-installed.
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I think they're both great you can't go wrong with either kernel. It's like choosing a lamborgini or ferrari, they're both awesome but it truly comes down to preference.
I think I got better battery with faux 31 but I under clocked and undervolted so I can't do a fair battery life test.
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I think they're both great you can't go wrong with either kernel. It's like choosing a lamborgini or ferrari, they're both awesome but it truly comes down to preference.
I think I got better battery with faux 31 but I under clocked and undervolted so I can't do a fair battery life test.
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I've noticed better battery life as well; not majorly, but noticeably. Although I feel it also has a little perfomance drop. Could just be me, though.
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Sorry for a question within a question, but what does undervolting/overvolting do? I've only ever tampered with MHz frequencies.
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Sorry for a question within a question, but what does undervolting/overvolting do? I've only ever tampered with MHz frequencies.
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Don't worry.
Undervolting is basically adjusting the voltages so the cpu uses less voltage aka electricity. It helps a little but it can make your phone unstable so watch out. Of you undervolt use the system tuner app on the market. You should definitely under clock if you want to save power too. When you undervolt be sure to underclock, and don't do it too low or your phone might freeze! That's why your shouldn't go so extreme on it.
Overvolting is basically adding more voltage to the cpu. There is no point in doing it for our amazes to be honest. It is already a battery hog. I guess it can help if you want to over clock a lot but there is absolutely no point in doing that.
In older legacy phones if you wanted to over clock because the cpu would be so weak, like 600mhz then you would have to overvolt to over clock to like 1ghz if you were lucky. Our devices are 1.5 ghz dual core and sense isn't THAT bad. There's no point in doing overvolt in this phone though.
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Don't worry.
Undervolting is basically adjusting the voltages so the cpu uses less voltage aka electricity. It helps a little but it can make your phone unstable so watch out. Of you undervolt use the system tuner app on the market. You should definitely under clock if you want to save power too. When you undervolt be sure to underclock, and don't do it too low or your phone might freeze! That's why your shouldn't go so extreme on it.
Overvolting is basically adding more voltage to the cpu. There is no point in doing it for our amazes to be honest. It is already a battery hog. I guess it can help if you want to over clock a lot but there is absolutely no point in doing that.
In older legacy phones if you wanted to over clock because the cpu would be so weak, like 600mhz then you would have to overvolt to over clock to like 1ghz if you were lucky. Our devices are 1.5 ghz dual core and sense isn't THAT bad. There's no point in doing overvolt in this phone though.
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I just saw it in Venom Tweaks and was curious. The most I underclock to is 1 GHz; cuts down the CPU maximum by a third and doesn't hinder performance to much. What voltage would you recommend at that clock speed?
P.S. I have I plan on flashing it to try it out when I get WiFi access. Trying to cut down data usage since I don't have WiFi at home.
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I just saw it in Venom Tweaks and was curious. The most I underclock to is 1 GHz; cuts down the CPU maximum by a third and doesn't hinder performance to much. What voltage would you recommend at that clock speed?
P.S. I have I plan on flashing it to try it out when I get WiFi access. Trying to cut down data usage since I don't have WiFi at home.
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1ghz is perfect. As for voltage it really varies but I subtract 75 or 50 mv from all voltages.
PS. Oh nice, hope you get wifi soon then.
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