Trying to save battery, I think I shut off something (was playing with sync settings) and now constant orange bars but all is fine!?! From what i can tell, internet good, manual refresh gets mail & play store updates still work, etc. Could it be that orange just indicates that syncs to Google are off? (but indeed I set them that way). I tried allowing sync again & sync-all-now manually but they stay orange. I tried setting DNS to google-dns-servers (via rom toolkit) but still stay orange & tried reset Google accounts - this gets them to go white again but some hrs later back to orange! Seems some ip conn to google is prevented by me leaving off some sync or something and as soon as it tries to reach google the conn is prevented and voila orange indication! I tried reviewing logcat but didn't really put a finger on any entry to help isolate it. So if it causes a unforeseen background problem to leave them orange, I'd like to reverse what I might've done else just leave it as is. Anyone else see this, know what causes it to go orange? I'd prefer to leave sync off.
Model: YP-G70
Android: 4.4.4 = CM11-20140712-UNOFFICIAL-venturi
Kernel: default = 3.0.101-G70UEK18 [email protected] #1 Sat Jul 12 13:13:50 PT 2014
Build#: cm_venturi-userdebug 4.4.4 KTU84P 997e99f83e test-keys
As I know it, when the device has sync on and is successfully "connected" to Google, signal turns blue (in JellyBean) / orange (KitKat). Even when sync is on, if Google is unreachable (e.g. here in China ), it won't go orange. As for when it exactly goes orange... Back in the JellyBean times, when Google is accessible, signal turns blue just seconds after I turn WiFi/3G on, without me having to do anything.
Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM11
Found this below among many articles about this, though no clear root cause and many other issues can be involved too.
In my case, I think I turned off some google service to save battery, that I am so far ok with being turned off. Here's a guess at this = My turning this off causes some subsystem to never make the conn to google in the first place. Some other subsystem checks for this conn to google and sees it's not present. It doesn't know I turned it off manually in another part of the system and simply proceeds to turn the wifi bars orange color to indicate conn to google not found present.
Everything else wifi works for me, and I am aware I have to now manually check for updates & notifies because of this - so at the cost of some background automation. Just not sure exactly which setting or combined settings I made caused this or what the exact check dependencies are to make this orange color indication. While the android manual below and article it came from confirms orange means some services not normally connected, it also doesn't go into what the exact conns are it's checking for to make this determination.
Seems in KK now, orange means no-google-conn & white=good - a change from ICS where blue=good and grey=no-google-conn.
(found this in article http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/3g-wifi-icons-color-indicating-t2517867)....
From Android-Quick-Start-Guide.pdf
Quote:
In Quick Settings only, white bars in the Wi-Fi or
mobile signal indicators indicate the signal strength
of a normal Internet connection, while orange bars
indicate that some web services may not be functioning
normally. For example, sometimes the mobile signal bars
turn orange briefly when you turn on your device, until a
full connection is established.
Just a quick update - for other reasons, I reflashed cm11 fresh (full wipe) and restored apps from TB backups. The white bars came back to normal but also poor battery life did too. Also noticed after sleep now the bars would remain orange but airplane mode toggle would get them to go white again. Tried to mess with settings again to save more battery life but not so good battery & constant airplane mode toggle compelled me to switch to carbon ROM as a new try out.
This now also has white bars but they come back to white on their own after sleep in carbon ROM & the few battery saving settings get the battery life to pretty good. So going to stick around with carbon for a while for now - many more settings in carbon too if that appeals. As for orange bars root cause still not sure exactly but at least carbon seems to recover back from sleep to white bars on its own without airplane toggles.
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Seems that my phone running fascinatemtd cm7 will sporadically lose data (but not the symbol). This is especially clear if the signal/3g stuff turns white in the notification bar. This does not happen to me on other ROMs.
Is this a CM7 bug or a radio bug? I am using latest CM7 with EC09 radio. Have also tried ED04 radio. The strange thing is if I open the browser the phone's data seems to work and the bars will turn green (or blue depending on theme) again.
****I am noticing very long awake times for Email and Google Maps app (only when latitude enabled)
Please excuse me if I don't understand this.
Your 3G icon turns white (as opposed to what ever color it usually is).
When you attempt to use the 3G connection it turns back on and works fine?
And your phone is not deep sleeping when running latitude or checking/updating gmail?
Are you just concerned about the color change or is there a data loss problem when you are actually using data or.....
If I'm not mistake it is just the radio turning off to conserve battery when not polling for data updates. Mine does the same thing when I leave wifi turned on but I am not with in range of a network (and when the phone first starts up from a restart or power on)
Maybe just a little more clarity and we might have an answer, or its quite possible I am not reading this right.
I will say my issue is one that is sort of funky and difficult to describe. Basically it seems that sometimes the radio connection will die and not sync data while the phone is sleeping. When I turn the screen on either the data bars are white or the 3G icon is altogether gone. Then I either am able to open up a browser and they turn green or I have to reboot the phone. Rebooting doesn't always work.
FYI the bars being green means that your phone has a connection to the google servers.
AuroEdge said:
I will say my issue is one that is sort of funky and difficult to describe. Basically it seems that sometimes the radio connection will die and not sync data while the phone is sleeping. When I turn the screen on either the data bars are white or the 3G icon is altogether gone. Then I either am able to open up a browser and they turn green or I have to reboot the phone. Rebooting doesn't always work.
FYI the bars being green means that your phone has a connection to the google servers.
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+1. Having the same issue. Try cycling airplane mode when the icons turn white.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
I'm activating my old Droid then gonna swap back. We'll see...
From the CM7 OP:
jt1134 said:
Known Issues:
* occassionally the radio may completely die (usually after phone has been powered off for a while) - fix: (shouldn't have to say this): pull the battery.
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But as has been said, the bars going white does not need to mean that there is a problem. They adjust a bit based on what the radio is talking to...
And have you tried ED05? It is available in the dev section as a standalone odin now...
AuroEdge said:
Seems that my phone running fascinatemtd cm7 will sporadically lose data (but not the symbol). This is especially clear if the signal/3g stuff turns white in the notification bar. This does not happen to me on other ROMs.
Is this a CM7 bug or a radio bug? I am using latest CM7 with EC09 radio. Have also tried ED04 radio. The strange thing is if I open the browser the phone's data seems to work and the bars will turn green (or blue depending on theme) again.
****I am noticing very long awake times for Email and Google Maps app (only when latitude enabled)
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I'm having the same problems every time I reboot. I especially have this problem if wifi was left on and then i reboot. Wifi connects in the status bar but I have no data transfer. I have to toggle wifi off and back on again to get wifi working again and sometimes I have to do the same thing if 3g is the first data connection on when I reboot. I suppose toggling airplane mode would accomplish the same thing but who knows. Once I am stable in the OS then all of my data works whenever I toggle between 3g and wifi.
M00NEY said:
From the CM7 OP:
But as has been said, the bars going white does not need to mean that there is a problem. They adjust a bit based on what the radio is talking to...
And have you tried ED05? It is available in the dev section as a standalone odin now...
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Yes similar problems. I overheard somebody today out and about saying their email 'feature' phone with Verizon would intermittently lose data connection. What the heck is going on?
Has anyone else noticed their Lumia using 3G when it shouldn't be e.g. at home with a working wifi access point?
Mine has done this a few times and because WP7 is so clean and simple it's pretty hard to see what's actually going on - there's no data counter. And to make it worse the data icon shows in the status bar even when wifi is on. Ideally it would show one or the other.
Yes, I notice that too. It could be a bug.
BlitterTwisted said:
Has anyone else noticed their Lumia using 3G when it shouldn't be e.g. at home with a working wifi access point?
Mine has done this a few times and because WP7 is so clean and simple it's pretty hard to see what's actually going on - there's no data counter. And to make it worse the data icon shows in the status bar even when wifi is on. Ideally it would show one or the other.
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Yup, I think it uses 3G when the phone is locked, as the phone seems to disconnect from Wi-Fi when you lock the phone. Another bug that probably needs addressing.
Yes! This affects me too.
It switches to 3G randomly when I'm on wifi and kills my data without me realising (or shows failed page loads when I have full wifi reception).
It also turns off wifi whenever I lock phone which seems to disrupt/cancel all push messages! Push messaging just isn't working.
So is this problem unique to Lumia 800?
i've noticed this too. it'll also present me with wifi hotspots to connect to, including ones it should be connected to.
as of now, i don't know whether it's an issue with locked or unlocked handsets. my handset was bought unlocked with no branding, but i've noticed some of the bugs i'm having don't seem to happen on network locked/branded handsets.
It's not a Lumia thing, it's just how WP works. Turning off wifi to save on battery use I guess. Android has the same default setting, although it allows you to change it.
I can understand it using 3G for background processes, like you say Android does the same thing.
What I can't understand is it using 3G when I am using the web browser on the phone, and the Wifi icon is lit at the top of the screen.
Rusty! said:
It's not a Lumia thing, it's just how WP works. Turning off wifi to save on battery use I guess. Android has the same default setting, although it allows you to change it.
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That's not the case actually, before the firmware update I used to get my notifications, after the update, I don't, I think Nokia did it on the firmware update.
Which firmware was this working in btw?
Oh and turning off WLAN when you have an active connection does NOT save power. It only saves power when there isn't an active connection because the 3G uses more for retrieving background data (eg. regular email, social networking updates) and *much* more for retrieving heavy data. I have tested this on numerous Nokia phones.
^ i got the opposite result - normally i have WLAN turned on at all times, because it always connects to wifi at home and at work. my battery lasted much longer (it lasted the night with 39% left, as opposed to going flat sometime in the night) with just the 3g turned on.
I noticed that wi-fi only stays on after you lock the screen if the phone is charging. Otherwise it cuts the conncetion. Very annoying indeed if you are downloading big games over wi-fi. However I get my notifications and emails just fine in any case. Remeber though, windows phone doesnt support proper push, hence why they cant get skype to recieve calls in the background. Facebook and whatsapp push always comes about 3-4 minutes later than needed.
Another thing that i have been testing for a while on various phones (nokia n9 included, not the lumia because it's too unreliable) and also got mentioned in this tread is wi-fi vs 3g consumption.
So my results are:
with 3 emails 15-30 mins sync or push for one, at least one push service eg, facebook, vkontakte whatsapp etc (where possible)
i concluded that if you just leave the phone there for a day in standby and dont use it, it drains quicker with wi-fi on. Everytime. Every phone.
However when using the internet eg. browsing for half an hour etc. wi-fi uses a lot less battery than 3g.
So only use the wi fi when you need it and switch it off for background tasks. (WP7 does that anyway, for a reason)
Hey there,
I was wondering if it's normal that my wifi indicator usually stays completly grey even when I'm standing next to the router and connectivity is working properly?
Yep. Only goes blue when you're connected to Google servers (using Google Play, syncing calendar/contacts, etc).
MistahBungle said:
Yep. Only goes blue when you're connected to Google servers (using Google Play, syncing calendar/contacts, etc).
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Even when I'm browsing the play store is stays grey,
I'm using hydrogen - ics btw, the indicators are all blue except the wifi which turns grey after the first time u lock the phone and never becomes blue again
Issue with your rom/kernel in that case. Whatever the case may be, I wouldn't worry about it if it isn't affecting the functionality of the phone. If you having problems with anything Google on your phone, then I'd worry.
If you're an anal-retentive type, ask in the forum devoted to the rom you're using, if you really want to test the phone, go back to stock & you'll see what I'm talking about.
I just wanted to post on the XDA forums that there is a thread to help determine what is causing the "heat + battery drain" issue(s) on the Lumia 920.
http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Nok...n-ATT-Overheats-Battery-Draining/td-p/1606012
Specifically, we've seen fairly normal battery drain when using applications, but when LTE data is introduced the battery continues to drain at a rate of 7-8% per hour even after the applications are closed. For example, streaming something like Xbox Music or Netflix over the LTE connection (wifi OFF), the phone warms up considerably and the battery continues to drain at a high rate even after those applications are closed. The same applications behave normally over 3G or Wifi, and the battery drain is not present afterward.
The "fix" so far appears to be disabling LTE altogether.
• Open Dialer
• Punch in ##3282 and hit Call
• At the Field Test menu, choose more options via the three dots (lower right)
• Select Settings
• Under network type, select "3G only". UMTS should be set to "Automatic".
• Change the "Toggle ENS" setting to OFF
• Back out, power off the phone, and power on again
Definitely interested in hearing other's reports on this issue. Specifically, does this happen with ALL Lumia 920 phones? Is this specific to this particular model phone? Is this a Nokia issue, LTE chip issue, or WP8 issue? Was this introduced with the Portico update?
Thanks.
Upon further testing.........
Disabling LTE is *not* the ultimate fix. Yes, it does help keep the battery drain down to more reasonable levels, but it does not solve the problem. I've subsequently tested with the little brother phone -- the Lumia 820 -- to see if the issue is on all WP8 handsets, on all Lumia phones, or even limited to post-Portico update phones (in other words, did Portico make this issue).
After some thorough testing, I can say with confidence that this issue is specific to the Lumia 920 and not necessarily all WP8 handsets or Lumia phones.
Detailed thread here: http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Nok...Overheats-Battery-Draining/m-p/1795212#M43837
I am currently working with Nokia to find a long-term resolution to this issue.
Please keep us updated, I'm very interested in knowing how to fix this problem! ??
I found that disabling bluetooth helps out.
Battery drain
To help reduce battery drain I do the following on my WP
I get a connectivity shortcut app. There are a few options available in the store. Anyway I pin airplane mode, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, and Location on my home screen and turn them off when I'm not using them. Turning off location turns of GPS, so you must enable it before launching Drive/Here. A lot of battery issues I think have to do with the phone being to aggressive (power wise) trying to search for signal. Whether its Wi-Fi a Bluetooth device, etc. I also disable Tap+Send (NFC) because I never use it.
And I go into background tasks and I block every single app from running in the background except the ones I am sure I want to run. Remeber the list where you can block them is for apps that want to run on a timed schedule, they can still run in the BG if you home screen out of them. For me the only one I allow is MS Weather (for the live tile). Disabling Nokia Drive/Here seems to help battery life for some people.
The biggest battery saver I did was forwarding my other email accounts (Gmail & Yahoo!) to Outlook.com, and then set that to only look every 1 hour (instead of the stock 30 minutes). My phone went from lasting 1 - 1.5 days to over 2.5 - 3 days with my typical usage (light usage).
I try not to use Live Tiles, or lock screen pictures unless I really want them (like weather for instance), as they help drain the battery quicker.
Anyway Nokia is really on top of their game so I think they will help contribute to WP to eliminate these issues. The only non-software related issue with the 920 is the dust in the FFC, which personally does not bother me but I could see how it might bother others.
##3282 isn't working for me after yesterday's update. Lets see how I do with the battery today!!!
The earpiece on mine does not work I can't hear anyone and top of phone gets warm I have sent it to nokia repair.
yipcanjo said:
I just wanted to post on the XDA forums that there is a thread to help determine what is causing the "heat + battery drain" issue(s) on the Lumia 920.
http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Nok...n-ATT-Overheats-Battery-Draining/td-p/1606012
Specifically, we've seen fairly normal battery drain when using applications, but when LTE data is introduced the battery continues to drain at a rate of 7-8% per hour even after the applications are closed. For example, streaming something like Xbox Music or Netflix over the LTE connection (wifi OFF), the phone warms up considerably and the battery continues to drain at a high rate even after those applications are closed. The same applications behave normally over 3G or Wifi, and the battery drain is not present afterward.
The "fix" so far appears to be disabling LTE altogether.
• Open Dialer
• Punch in ##3282 and hit Call
• At the Field Test menu, choose more options via the three dots (lower right)
• Select Settings
• Under network type, select "3G only". UMTS should be set to "Automatic".
• Change the "Toggle ENS" setting to OFF
• Back out, power off the phone, and power on again
Definitely interested in hearing other's reports on this issue. Specifically, does this happen with ALL Lumia 920 phones? Is this specific to this particular model phone? Is this a Nokia issue, LTE chip issue, or WP8 issue? Was this introduced with the Portico update?
Thanks.
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Thanks for the tip!
I also have 5-8% per hour drain. (actual offi. release .1308...)
all off, sync, loaction, WLAN every thing, fresh reboot, phone on my desk, not working with it, about 2 lines H signal.
when i switch to airplane mode....1-2% battery drain over a complete night!
its also no problem to activate airplane mode ON and afterwards WLAN additionally ON, then about 1-4% over a night!
i tried everything i found on the inet.
and i have my white L920 since Dec.12! (i did a "hard" update over PC in Feb. and also the the last release over the air...nothing changed)
so now i'm checking if this works for me and post results
I'm located in AUT with an unlocked, unbranded GER L920.
and we dont have LTE til now...maybee thats the problem..?!
dj_memory said:
Thanks for the tip!
I also have 5-8% per hour drain. (actual offi. release .1308...)
all off, sync, loaction, WLAN every thing, fresh reboot, phone on my desk, not working with it, about 2 lines H signal.
when i switch to airplane mode....1-2% battery drain over a complete night!
its also no problem to activate airplane mode ON and afterwards WLAN additionally ON, then about 1-4% over a night!
i tried everything i found on the inet.
and i have my white L920 since Dec.12! (i did a "hard" update over PC in Feb. and also the the last release over the air...nothing changed)
so now i'm checking if this works for me and post results
I'm located in AUT with an unlocked, unbranded GER L920.
and we dont have LTE til now...maybee thats the problem..?!
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UPDATE:
i solved my battery drain issue by setting my "max network speed" to 2G!
by that i now have a drain of 1-2% p.h.!
dj_memory said:
UPDATE:
i solved my battery drain issue by setting my "max network speed" to 2G!
by that i now have a drain of 1-2% p.h.!
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That is great. To bad that we whom have received the latest OTA no longer have access to that menu.
really?
I'm on FW 1232.5957.1308.0001
and WPH 8.0.10211.204
I don't need to change the network type within ##3282 menu, also worked for me in normal network settings.
dj_memory said:
really?
I'm on FW 1232.5957.1308.0001
and WPH 8.0.10211.204
I don't need to change the network type within ##3282 menu, also worked for me in normal network settings.
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So then how do you set your network speed?
u don't need access to ##3282...its also possible to "limit" within settings/network. (##3282 NOT working within f.e. Rapdialer!!)
I limit it to "2G" only when its more importand to have less battery consumption than inet speed
limited to "2G" in my region it shows me afterwards a "E" on top.
On this PIC i found in the inet is "roaming" deactivated.
I have to activate "roaming" also when I'm within my own network to have inet access (and the "E").
In my town, network operators share their mobile radio transmitters.
I limited direktly at my provider the access to a "real roaming network" for example a swiss network.
Because i'm most of the time near the border
maybee not possible in your version or provider?
I'm on a free GER version.
Definitely trying this tonight.
For the battery drain try light (white) theme. intresting but that help my battery drain problem
Same issue here...Any updates?
Battery drain and over heat
moshepupkin said:
Same issue here...Any updates?
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My experience is that, I reset the cellphone and after doing this twice and connecting to the internet and waiting for one hour, Microsoft gave me an update for my battery saver and since that time everything is ok, including the battery. I always believed that the updates have problems to be installed completely most of the time, so it's better to reset or download it via the computer and instal it with a cable( using Nokia Software Update). But if it doesn't work, please don't panic. The updates are coming and just be sure that you have reset your device without choosing the setting backup, for you must start afresh. Good Luck.
Hello, folks!
I have a rooted I9100 (Android 4.0.3 stock from Vivo, baseband I9100VILP3, kernel 3.0.15-I9100VJLP7-CL371396 [email protected] #3, compilation IML74K.VJLP7, CSC I9100UVILP3).
Sometimes I have problems turning on WiFi, it keeps always turning on and neither become active nor allow me to turn it off again. I then need to reboot phone to fix it (when it reboots, WiFi comes turned on and gets on normally).
Another problem I have with it is that sometimes (average of 4 - 5 times a day) phone loses registration with carrier. It completely loses* signal and shows a "prohibited" icon where signal strength is shown at status bar. (Edit) Sometimes it comes back again in a few seconds and sometimes it stays at that state, making me have to reboot it to fix the problem (turning on and off airplane mode doesn't work; in fact, with registration lost and trying to use airplane mode, it doesn't turn off and only fixes with reboot).
*Actually, it doesn't lose signal (can be seen in "settings - about phone - state" screen uploaded), but only unregisters from carrier.
(Edit: screen/phone language is Brazilian Portuguese)
I've downloaded another modem driver but never had time to test it.
I don't know if both problems can have the same cause, but both of them are very annoying (especially signal loss) and I'd like to make some tries to fix them, so if anyone knows what can I do (even data collection to investigate them), your help is very appreciated.
Thanks
Additional test (ServiceMode)
When I was in the forum to post this thread, I've noticed this other thread and I've decided to use ServiceMode code (*#0011#) to investigate further at the next time my cell lose signal. Unfortunately, it showed absolutely nothing. Literally nothing (just "ServiceMode" caption and no text on the screen below).
I just spent the time to post this because I know that, even if it has shown no information (on screen), maybe it still can be a clue for the cause of the problem.
Thanks
Pls help!
Does anyone have some light to shed on this case?
Please, I do really need to fix it, at least the signal loss problem.
Thanks.
Same Issue in the US on Tmobile
Mine started doing this just a day or two ago. Exact same issue. I can kind of operate on the EDGE network but 4G fails, only WiFi seems to work. T-mobile doesn't seem to have a fix for it.
Changed to MIUI
I've just changed to MIUI (reflashed modem also – now it is ZSLPE instead of previous VILP3).
I still have issues with carrier register loss, but until now it always reconnected after a few seconds. Maybe it is a carrier issue and not a phone one.
I don't turn on WiFi a lot, but all times I've tested it, it worked well.
Another thing I've noticed with this change is that battery temperature while charging used to reach 48°C (118°F) or even 50°C (122°F) while battery level was low (less than 50%), but now it stayed around 35°C (95°F), which is completely acceptable.