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Hey guys,
So I have been playing around with the camera on my Z Ultra and I wanted to share a few things with you.
1. DO NOT use Superior Auto at all!!
It destroys pretty much every photo and has too much noise and no sharpness. It's just shockingly bad.
2. Always use normal shooting mode.
3. Become comfortable adjusting settings and actually getting to know the camera so you know when to use appropriate ISO etc.
4. Adjust ISO yourself and keep it at 400 or below. Use in combination with HDR for some very pleasing results.
Those are the 4 most important tips I think. Never ever ever use superior auto. The results with normal mode are very crisp and have lots of sharpness and contrast.
Overall the camera I believe is better than the Xperia Z. I own both and with the right settings, the Z Ultras images appear sharper.
I'll post a few examples.
Thanks and how are you all liking the camera so far?
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Here are a few examples.
1 taking with Superior Auto. The other taking with Normal mode on ISO 100.
Be sure to zoom.in on the bottle. You can see so much noise on the photo taking with Superior Auto.
Hopefully the results speak for themselves
If you want other photos I'll be happy to provide them.
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Way to much red in the photos taken with Superior Auto. Hopefully Sony will fix this in the next update. Btw, do you have the old Sony UI or the new one? (Old has a dark settings menu, while the new one is white)
I have the Old UI with the Bravia Engine 2.
New UI should be released in about a months time. Hopefully sooner
When are you buying your Ultra?
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ScottishSwan said:
I have the Old UI with the Bravia Engine 2.
New UI should be released in about a months time. Hopefully sooner
When are you buying your Ultra?
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I'm buying it as soon as it hits the stores in Norway, which i believe is in the first week of september(?), like the rest of Europe.
Unless a different beast emerges from the depths of hell somewhere, that is (which i highly doubt, so ZU it is.)
Is it not the last week of September it gets released in Europe?
Its funny right now, I am slowly becoming to accept the Z Ultras size as normal and the 6.4" display as normal.
Even when I pick up a 5" device now, it feels so tiny!! Haha
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According to news sources, the release date for europe is september 6th.
I had the same experience when i got my Note. I came from the Desire HD with a 4.3" display, so the Note's size was ridiculous at that time, and i remember laughing my ass of when i unboxed it! Now? Not big at all. It's the same thing with the iPhone. I had the first gen. from the states and a 3GS, and they were really big at the time, but i just laugh at its tiny body now
When do you think phones will stop growing? I imagine 7" with almost no bezels at all will be the limit.
Unboxing my Ultra though, I did laugh when I seen it and my first day carrying it to work etc, quite a surprise haha.
Me personally I love big phones though, can never understand people who say they don't want anything bigger than 4.5 - 4.7 inches.
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Good question, and i have no idea, but i think we are near the limit now. IF the OEM's are planning on something even bigger, then i guess they'll have to make them without any bezels. That would be awesome and i guess a little science fiction looking
Something like this:
ScottishSwan said:
Is it not the last week of September it gets released in Europe?
Its funny right now, I am slowly becoming to accept the Z Ultras size as normal and the 6.4" display as normal.
Even when I pick up a 5" device now, it feels so tiny!! Haha
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I agree. I love big devices and my Xperia Z feels really tiny in comparison but one thing is for sure: I think the Ultra is the biggest size that a phablet can have and still being pocketable.
It fits my pockets but I notice that I can't carry a bigger device in them. The future development could be smaller bezels and therefore perhaps a 6,8 and perhaps even a 7 inch screen. I would even guess that the small tablets like the Nexus 7 will be replaced by phablets with the same screen size but smaller body (Ultra size).
So the future market will offer phablets up to 7 inch, then tablets starting at 8 inches and upwards followed by dockable "tablets" with screens of 12 inches and bigger. The small tablet is going to become a phablet - adding smaller bezels and a smaller body to the existing 7 inch screen and putting a dialer on is a straight forward development, especially when the Nexus 7 has connectivity to mobile networks already and the old Galaxy Tab could make calls.
I wouldn't be surprised if the 2014 edition of the Nexus 7 will be a phablet and that Sony are creating a partly new market with the Z Ultra.
Coming from iPhone 5, the UZ produces astoundingly bad overprocessed images. What's coming off the sensor is actually pretty good as you can see if you shoot in burst mode since that is the only setting that doesn't add a massive sharpness filter to the output. All other modes are crap. Massive over sharpening and then saving at what has to be 50% jpg quality. I don't get the mentality of putting in user defined ISO settings but forcing sharpening and jpg quality.
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Coming from iPhone 5, the UZ produces astoundingly bad overprocessed images. What's coming off the sensor is actually pretty good as you can see if you shoot in burst mode since that is the only setting that doesn't add a massive sharpness filter to the output. All other modes are crap. Massive over sharpening and then saving at what has to be 50% jpg quality. I don't get the mentality of putting in user defined ISO settings but forcing sharpening and jpg quality.
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I do not have these issues. The only problems i have is when the phone is using Superior Auto.
Any other mode is perfectly sharp and noise free. I have also compared it to my iPhone 5 and the photos are very very comparable when you get the settings right.
Please tell me the about camera settings for best output of images in Xperia Z Ultra .. i donno how to configure my z ultra for best output images .. so please any one help abt best camera settings
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Please tell me the about camera settings for best output of images in Xperia Z Ultra .. i donno how to configure my z ultra for best output images .. so please any one help abt best camera settings
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sounds like u need a crash course on photography instead.
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Please tell me the about camera settings for best output of images in Xperia Z Ultra .. i donno how to configure my z ultra for best output images .. so please any one help abt best camera settings
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1. Always set the camera to Normal mode.
2. Set the ISO at a maximum of 400 and not higher.
3. Use HDR on occasions where it might be needed.
On those settings you will get sharp images. Of course, you have to learn the camera a little yourself too.
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Please tell me the about camera settings for best output of images in Xperia Z Ultra .. i donno how to configure my z ultra for best output images .. so please any one help abt best camera settings
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Frankly, that's not how you learn stuff. What's wrong with just experimenting like normal people do?
Excuse Peppa pig, this was ISO 200, hdr with center focusing
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Looking good
What are your thoughts on the camera?
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Does it miss not having any kind of flash?
Super Chimp said:
Does it miss not having any kind of flash?
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For me personally, in the 10 days I have owned the Z Ultra I have not missed flash at all.
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Hey guys, I have a Z Ultra and a Z1 (my dad's). He's letting me keep his Z1 in exchange for my Ultra. But I like my Ultra's screen but the Z1 has a better camera
Here are the pros of the devices as I see them:
Z Ultra -
1. Bigger screen
2. Can use a pencil
3. I've grown to like it :silly:
Z1:
1. Better ROMs (or at least, more)
2. Good camera
3. Bigger speakers
4. Smaller overall size
Now, the screen size of the Z1 is really small, I mean, it's tiny ! But it's got a better camera and 2 months of college have taught me how important a camera is . Add to that the fact that it has a better contrast ratio than the Z Ultra and I've got a sound conundrum on my hands...
Do any of you have any advice ?
@moderators this thread isn't intended to start a war between fanboys, please let it remain open. If you lock it, I'll have to take the coin-toss approach
Thank you all for taking the time to read this !
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Okay, WAREFAREONLY (LOL), I would pick the Ultra. The screen is huge and has way better viewing angles than the Z1 (Ultra uses an AH-IPS LCD while the Z1 uses a VA LCD) and therefore it's easier to use (browsing, gaming etc.), its design is much better than the Z1 (subjective) and it's so freaking thin. We got ROMs and the Z1 and Ultra share the same internals, so cross development is expected down the road, so it's all good in that department. The only negative aspects of it is the camera.
Z1: Chubby with a nice camera
Ultra: Anorexic with a bad camera
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warfareonly said:
Hey guys, I have a Z Ultra and a Z1 (my dad's). He's letting me keep his Z1 in exchange for my Ultra. But I like my Ultra's screen but the Z1 has a better camera
Here are the pros of the devices as I see them:
Z Ultra -
1. Bigger screen
2. Can use a pencil
3. I've grown to like it :silly:
Z1:
1. Better ROMs (or at least, more)
2. Good camera
3. Bigger speakers
4. Smaller overall size
Now, the screen size of the Z1 is really small, I mean, it's tiny ! But it's got a better camera and 2 months of college have taught me how important a camera is . Add to that the fact that it has a better contrast ratio than the Z Ultra and I've got a sound conundrum on my hands...
Do any of you have any advice ?
@moderators this thread isn't intended to start a war between fanboys, please let it remain open. If you lock it, I'll have to take the coin-toss approach
Thank you all for taking the time to read this !
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Personally, this is how I see it from the XZU point of view.
1. Camera isn't an issue. For perfectly good quality pictures, use a decent third party app. OK, no flash is an issue if night pictures are required. Personally I've never seen the appeal of phone cameras... I'd always use an slr.
2. Yes, the z1 has more developers, but I guarantee we'll be getting those roms as pretty much direct ports.
3. Speakers on a phone have never been intended as anything other than for notifications. Headphones will always be needed for actual media unless you're a bit weird.
4. If you got the XZU, there's something in you that loves this screen. I've looked at all the other 5.8 inch and lower screens and they are far too small. This is a true phablet and makes media stand out by a mile. You won't get that many other places. Thats all this phone is really about.
Stick with XZU. No comparison.
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Stick with the Ultra.
My wife has the Z1 and I find the screen to small for my work. I have gotten used to carrying the Ultra now.
Now, the screen size of the Z1 is really small, I mean, it's tiny ! But it's got a better camera and 2 months of college have taught me how important a camera is . Add to that the fact that it has a better contrast ratio than the Z Ultra and I've got a sound conundrum on my hands...
Do any of you have any advice ?
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Well.. you are only going to get a bias opinion from us. We are ultra owners.. so we obviously want the big screen.
I moved from the Galaxy S4 to the Ultra. Purely for the screen size.
I still had my S4 a few days ago, until i sold it. I picked it up to take some better images, but didn't want to use it. It has a better camera (like the Z1) but its just too small. In fact its bordering on ugly!
The Z1 is similar, but just to fat. Like Lord says.. I can't go to a fatter device, or a smaller device... The Ultra is for me! and I would think you would hate moving to a smaller device also.
Additionally @SpyderTracks makes a good point. I've made 3 posts in the app section regarding mods that were originated on the Z1, and will work for the ultra. So expect what ever happens with the Z1 to happen to the ultra.
Well, you decide whats better for you, but there are some facts and imprecision to revaluate in your points:
Z1 has not a better Rom, they have just updates at different stage.
Z1 has not a "tiny" screen, is a top huge smartphone sized for its class.
Ultra is +- 6mm thick
Z1 has not a better screen than Ultra
Ultra is more suitable for book reading too
Z1 has a better camera but now there is the option QX10 around: Ultra + QX10 = better camera than Z1, of course..for who dont care carrying much sized stuff outside.
warfareonly said:
Hey guys, I have a Z Ultra and a Z1 (my dad's). He's letting me keep his Z1 in exchange for my Ultra. But I like my Ultra's screen but the Z1 has a better camera
Here are the pros of the devices as I see them:
Z Ultra -
1. Bigger screen
2. Can use a pencil
3. I've grown to like it :silly:
Z1:
1. Better ROMs (or at least, more)
2. Good camera
3. Bigger speakers
4. Smaller overall size
Now, the screen size of the Z1 is really small, I mean, it's tiny ! But it's got a better camera and 2 months of college have taught me how important a camera is . Add to that the fact that it has a better contrast ratio than the Z Ultra and I've got a sound conundrum on my hands...
Do any of you have any advice ?
@moderators this thread isn't intended to start a war between fanboys, please let it remain open. If you lock it, I'll have to take the coin-toss approach
Thank you all for taking the time to read this !
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coming from the note 2 to the ZUltra was worth it. I was playing with my note 2 and couldn't adjust to the small screen. Go big or go home xD
That's it, I'm sticking with the Ultra !
I just can't be separated from this huge, beautiful screen !
Thanks for your opinions guys ! Much appreciated
Or you could just get the best of both worlds
Walking around with nearly 1500 USD stuffed in my pockets is not really an option
warfareonly said:
Hey guys, I have a Z Ultra and a Z1 (my dad's). He's letting me keep his Z1 in exchange for my Ultra. But I like my Ultra's screen but the Z1 has a better camera
Here are the pros of the devices as I see them:
Z Ultra -
1. Bigger screen
2. Can use a pencil
3. I've grown to like it :silly:
Z1:
1. Better ROMs (or at least, more)
2. Good camera
3. Bigger speakers
4. Smaller overall size
Now, the screen size of the Z1 is really small, I mean, it's tiny ! But it's got a better camera and 2 months of college have taught me how important a camera is . Add to that the fact that it has a better contrast ratio than the Z Ultra and I've got a sound conundrum on my hands...
Do any of you have any advice ?
@moderators this thread isn't intended to start a war between fanboys, please let it remain open. If you lock it, I'll have to take the coin-toss approach
Thank you all for taking the time to read this !
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Same family so share! Solved.:highfive:
Hi guys, just wanna ask if unlocking bootloader reduce image quality, because my xzu camera image quality looks different with xzu displayed on store.
My xzu (unlocked bootloader stock rom) when taking image in low light, the black/ dark area look abit purple or green noise if zoomed in. I already switch back to stock rom, but the problem still the same.
Compared with the one on store (same stock rom) the black color looks better (no purple dots only white noise or blurred).
Did anyone experience this problem? Or is it just me?
Thanks guys
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teruhiko666 said:
Hi guys, just wanna ask if unlocking bootloader reduce image quality, because my xzu camera image quality looks different with xzu displayed on store.
My xzu (unlocked bootloader stock rom) when taking image in low light, the black/ dark area look abit purple or green noise if zoomed in. I already switch back to stock rom, but the problem still the same.
Compared with the one on store (same stock rom) the black color looks better (no purple dots only white noise or blurred).
Did anyone experience this problem? Or is it just me?
Thanks guys
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No don't think so. ive never seen any difference between camera quality, and no one else has ever reported it either.
My camera is shocking to start with, I'd hate to think it might get worse from unlocking the bootloader!
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Let's say my camera had AIDS. If unlocking the bootloader makes any differences to the quality, it'll still have AIDS, but v2.0. It was bad and it's still bad I've used it once and I've ignored it like a red headed* stepchild after that.
*If I've hurt any redheads' feelings out there, I'm sorry. (I love me some red headed girls, though)
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Let's say my camera had AIDS. If unlocking the bootloader makes any differences to the quality, it'll still have AIDS, but v2.0. It was bad and it's still bad I've used it once and I've ignored it like a red headed* stepchild after that.
*If I've hurt any redheads' feelings out there, I'm sorry. (I love me some red headed girls, though)
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You do have a knack for putting things in layman's terms
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You do have a knack for putting things in layman's terms
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Yeah, not everyone's style, but i like to make a point; lurid or not
Funny.. my Step-son is a red head... No offence taken :highfive:
I know this is off topic... but Lord and Spider are here, so there's that
I have been using a Z1 from a colleague and I've been a little/... well.... underwhelmed with its camera. 20.7mp and its pretty average too.
Zooming in reveals a massive amount of noise like on our Ultra. The images are 6mb each, so its not as if its going through a massive amount of post processing. I just think Sony really haven't made hardware good enough even though their 'g' lens for mobile was a marketing point.
Resizing the image down to 1080 make it look nice. But it did on the Ultra too... I really hope Sony continue to make improvements to this with the Z2 and Ultra 2..
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I know this is off topic... but Lord and Spider are here, so there's that
I have been using a Z1 from a colleague and I've been a little/... well.... underwhelmed with its camera. 20.7mp and its pretty average too.
Zooming in reveals a massive amount of noise like on our Ultra. The images are 6mb each, so its not as if its going through a massive amount of post processing. I just think Sony really haven't made hardware good enough even though their 'g' lens for mobile was a marketing point.
Resizing the image down to 1080 make it look nice. But it did on the Ultra too... I really hope Sony continue to make improvements to this with the Z2 and Ultra 2..
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Hey! Me, you and Spider are running this show, so off topic post: granted (until a mod comes here and punishes me)
How about the display? The Z1 is allegedly using a TN TFT panel while the Ultra uses a AH-IPS panel. How's the viewing angles? TFT should have poor viewing angles.
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Hey! Me, you and Spider are running this show, so off topic post: granted (until a mod comes here and punishes me)
How about the display? The Z1 is allegedly using a TN TFT panel while the Ultra uses a AH-IPS panel. How's the viewing angles? TFT should have poor viewing angles.
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Yep this is our show!
The Z1 looks very similar. I can't compare as ultra isn't fixed. I must have done a real number on it! Gotta love flashing the TA partition unrooting so Sony think its a stock device!
Anyway... the Z1 does have a weird colour change when viewing extreme angles. Colour kinda goes to purplish/orange tint, it also looses its colour punch. Faded. It feels fat too. The Ultra is a much better device. I'm def gonna get the QX10 as an addon. Even with the Z1 I'd do the same.. the camera really isn't as good as I thought it would be.
EDIT: just bought the QX10 off ebay... BOOM!
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Funny.. my Step-son is a red head... No offence taken :highfive:
I know this is off topic... but Lord and Spider are here, so there's that
I have been using a Z1 from a colleague and I've been a little/... well.... underwhelmed with its camera. 20.7mp and its pretty average too.
Zooming in reveals a massive amount of noise like on our Ultra. The images are 6mb each, so its not as if its going through a massive amount of post processing. I just think Sony really haven't made hardware good enough even though their 'g' lens for mobile was a marketing point.
Resizing the image down to 1080 make it look nice. But it did on the Ultra too... I really hope Sony continue to make improvements to this with the Z2 and Ultra 2..
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Make me correct if I'm wrong but Sony produce sensor Exmor RS for iphone 5 and 5s as I read in an article, so if we go this way in our ZU supposse to be comparable hardware as we can find in Apple device. I'm not a fan of Apple products but even I have to agree with superiority of Iphone camera , so I think a key to picture quallity is a Software/Driver issue.
Licantre said:
Make me correct if I'm wrong but Sony produce sensor Exmor RS for iphone 5 and 5s as I read in an article, so if we go this way in our ZU supposse to be comparable hardware as we can find in Apple device. I'm not a fan of Apple products but even I have to agree with superiority of Iphone camera , so I think a key to picture quallity is a Software/Driver issue.
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Yeah, Apple products use Sony sensors as far as I know.
Also a small correction from me: I said the Z1 uses a TN TFT panel, but it's MVA TFT.
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Thx for all the input guys, probably i just need to double check the setting. But seriously, i feel the different when comparing with xzu displayed on store *sigh*
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Just wanna tell u guys, i just update to 4.3 stock rom, now all the purple noises are gone. I feel so relieved. It was a software problem. Now im curious how this new 4.3 rom gonna fix my xperia z c6602 with same issue.. Thx for all the input guys
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Hi Guys,
I recently switched from Xperia Z1 to Z2 and m really disappointed with the Camera performance. Ideally Z1 and Z2 camera should give me same result but somehow my Z2's pictures arn't cmng good.
I am talking about night/low light shots, even my Z1 is giving me better result than Z2 !!! Is my set faulty or everybody is facing this issue?
Second thing, when I am selection anything more than 8MP, in manual mode - the option of scene selection gets disabled? Why???
15.5 and 20.7 mp disable scenes and hdr. Wasn't the same in z1?
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15.5 and 20.7 mp disable scenes and hdr. Wasn't the same in z1?
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agree, but how about Image Quality - my Z1 giving better results than Z2?
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agree, but how about Image Quality - my Z1 giving better results than Z2?
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You're the only one I think with this problem. Most agree that image quality is considerably improved from z1 especially lowlight. Not sure what else to stay.
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zodiac100 said:
You're the only one I think with this problem. Most agree that image quality is considerably improved from z1 especially lowlight. Not sure what else to stay.
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Dude - check this thread below and compare the pictures, m not JUST saying - I have both Z1 and Z2 to compare !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2673226
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Dude - check this thread below and compare the pictures, m not JUST saying - I have both Z1 and Z2 to compare !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2673226
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I too have both phones. The Z2 is a definite improvement in IQ compared to the Z1, low light shots are way better! you must have a duff device as MOST agree that the camera is definitely one area it excels over the Z1 for sure.
But camera module of z1 and 2 are still the same correct? If thats the case then I believe there are some massive update to the software. Hope it will come to Z1 eventually. I did notice the file size seems to be bigger than z2, so maybe shots are less compressed now.
Maybe you have a bad device? I'm sure there is some variance to these components.
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Maybe you have a bad device? I'm sure there is some variance to these components.
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can I ask Sony to replace it? How will I justify???
xperiax10.awesome said:
Hi Guys,
I recently switched from Xperia Z1 to Z2 and m really disappointed with the Camera performance. Ideally Z1 and Z2 camera should give me same result but somehow my Z2's pictures arn't cmng good.
I am talking about night/low light shots, even my Z1 is giving me better result than Z2 !!! Is my set faulty or everybody is facing this issue?
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I too switched from Z1 to Z2. IMO, image quality on the Z2 is much better than Z1 in night / low light / indoor shots. In daylight shots however the Z1 shots are sharper (maybe due to different processing), Z2 shots (daylight) tend to be softer especially towards the edges / distant objects, but have less noise than Z1. Overall, I think Z2 camera is better but needs some tweaking around for daylight shots.
BTW, I'm on second Z2 (first one had touchscreen issues) and both had similar camera results vs Z1 (which was also replaced thrice before).
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can I ask Sony to replace it? How will I justify???
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That would all depend on how you bought the device and what your local return policies look like.
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That would all depend on how you bought the device and what your local return policies look like.
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Will chk tomorrow with Sony Singapore.
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I was looking into the Xperia Z line because of the IP rating and the awesome battery life.
I hate Samsung and Apple so those phones aren't even going to be on my list of options.
I currently have a HTC One m7ul. I was going to buy a Z3 on Amazon and it goes for around ~$630+ while the Z2 is a more friendly $450+.
They both seem to have very similar specs just with some minor changes. I plan on rooting and flashing to most recent version of Sony's software.
1) Is there really much of a difference between the IP58 (Z2) and IP68 (Z3)? I know what they mean and the numbering system, just don't know if it really will make a difference for me...
2) Is paying ~$150 for the Z3 worth it over the Z2? (To me it doesn't seem so, but if anyone has more insight into this)
3) Does the Z2 have double tap to wake (yes, i know this is very minor, but i love this feature)?
Thanks!
1.IP68
6 is for dust and 8 is for water
Z3 has better dust resistance
Z2 is IP58, less dust resistancy and same water resistancy
2. Z2 will be recieving shortly almost all Z3 features, only difference is design, display and camera
More better camera, higher iso range, 12800 vs Z2 3200
Display, identicle but slightly brighter backlight
3. Z2 has double tap to wake
Envious_Data said:
1.IP68
6 is for dust and 8 is for water
Z3 has better dust resistance
Z2 is IP58, less dust resistancy and same water resistancy
2. Z2 will be recieving shortly almost all Z3 features, only difference is design, display and camera
More better camera, higher iso range, 12800 vs Z2 3200
Display, identicle but slightly brighter backlight
3. Z2 has double tap to wake
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Thank you! You think I should go with the Z2 and save a little extra cash?
Its honnestly worth it concidering they are simular
Z3 all it has is better camera, brighter backlight and slighly different design for almost %200 the price of Z2
I would take Z2 over Z3 if i was in your place
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1.IP68
6 is for dust and 8 is for water
Z3 has better dust resistance
Z2 is IP58, less dust resistancy and same water resistancy
2. Z2 will be recieving shortly almost all Z3 features, only difference is design, display and camera
More better camera, higher iso range, 12800 vs Z2 3200
Display, identicle but slightly brighter backlight
3. Z2 has double tap to wake
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You're wrong on the camera side Bro! It's iso 12800 vs 6400. Also those high iso values are only available in auto mode and since that's the worst shooting mode on Sony smartphones, I'd say the 12800 thing is just a marketing gimmick. In manual mode both phones have a max iso option of 3200 and then only at 8mp. At full res, they both max out at 800 iso.
The z3 produces sharper photos at full res but as I understand it 4.4.2 has a focusing bug which Google fixed with 4.4.4. Sony obviously didn't compensate for this bug on their 4.4.2 firmware as others did. Also quite a few reviews have claimed the z2's camera to actually perform better especially in video recording. Z3 has a better mic though but the mic on the z2 is said to improve with 4.4.4.
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Chubby_Skunk said:
I was looking into the Xperia Z line because of the IP rating and the awesome battery life.
I hate Samsung and Apple so those phones aren't even going to be on my list of options.
I currently have a HTC One m7ul. I was going to buy a Z3 on Amazon and it goes for around ~$630+ while the Z2 is a more friendly $450+.
They both seem to have very similar specs just with some minor changes. I plan on rooting and flashing to most recent version of Sony's software.
1) Is there really much of a difference between the IP58 (Z2) and IP68 (Z3)? I know what they mean and the numbering system, just don't know if it really will make a difference for me...
2) Is paying ~$150 for the Z3 worth it over the Z2? (To me it doesn't seem so, but if anyone has more insight into this)
3) Does the Z2 have double tap to wake (yes, i know this is very minor, but i love this feature)?
Thanks!
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In terms of ip rating, I doubt users will be able to tell the difference. The z2 survived 6 weeks in sea water. I think that should be fine for anyone lol
Is the z3 worth $150 more than z2? Emphatically NO! The most I'd pay extra for rounded sides and brighter display is maybe $40. That's being generous actually. I also prefer the colour calibration of z2's display. Much warmer than the colder z3.
The z2 has double tap to wake and will soon be on par softwarewise with the z3 once it gets the 4.4.4 update up to and including ps4 remote play.
My advice is wait for z4 in a few months but if you want to take the plunge now, go with z2. Z3 is over priced. It's in the same category of smartphone as z2,m8,s5 and g3 and it's price will drop in line with those soon enough.
Save yourself the $150. Spend it elsewhere. Why give it to Sony for rounded sides?
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zodiac100 said:
You're wrong on the camera side Bro! It's iso
Save yourself the $150. Spend it elsewhere. Why give it to Sony for rounded sides?
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If i understanded right your saying its pointless going for both Z2 or Z3
It would make sense, but seeing Z4 probably being the same as Z3
Id say just go for a ZU or Z at this point, both are cheaper and both are quite nice devices, Z1 i didnt like so much
(its morning time excuse my reading skills)
Envious_Data said:
If i understanded right your saying its pointless going for both Z2 or Z3
It would make sense, but seeing Z4 probably being the same as Z3
Id say just go for a ZU or Z at this point, both are cheaper and both are quite nice devices, Z1 i didnt like so much
(its morning time excuse my reading skills)
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Not saying it's pointless. At this point with the z4 only months away, I'd recommend waiting to see that but if one had to make a choice now, I'd say go with z2. You'll get essentially the same package and user experience for a lot less.
Z and Z1 lack ips live colour led panels and don't have a lot of software features available on the newer models so unless you're after a bargain I wouldn't go with either of those.
I suppose my advice is, go with z2 now or wait for z4. Z3 is over priced!
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Not saying it's pointless. At this point with the z4 only months away, I'd recommend waiting to see that but if one had to make a choice now, I'd say go with z2. You'll get essentially the same package and user experience for a lot less.
Z and Z1 lack ips live colour led panels and don't have a lot of software features available on the newer models so unless you're after a bargain I wouldn't go with either of those.
I suppose my advice is, go with z2 now or wait for z4. Z3 is over priced!
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Agreed
Z2 or Z4
Im not sure about it being a few months away because sony was playing with the idea of 1 year instead of 6 months and it came through a couple times on their social networking pages
Envious_Data said:
Agreed
Z2 or Z4
Im not sure about it being a few months away because sony was playing with the idea of 1 year instead of 6 months and it came through a couple times on their social networking pages
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I've heard that too but trust me if Sony's going to can any of its flagship releases, it'll be the September IFA releases and not the MWC release. There's no way they'll wait until September 2015 to launch a new flashship. They need to have something to go up against the likes of the S6,M9 and G4.
The z3 doesn't stand a chance against any of those. It's already lower specced than the note 4 and even nexus 6.
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I dont know if the thread is over or not but id like to say that the Z2 is an excellant phone, i got mine a month ago, the display is sharp, it never lags and the battery life still amazes me, today I was travelling all day listening to music , playing games and taking photographs from 7:30 A.M and now at 8:00 its at 30%, it is still an excellant phone to this day and i would highly recommend it
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Agreed
Z2 or Z4
Im not sure about it being a few months away because sony was playing with the idea of 1 year instead of 6 months and it came through a couple times on their social networking pages
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zodiac100 said:
I've heard that too but trust me if Sony's going to can any of its flagship releases, it'll be the September IFA releases and not the MWC release. There's no way they'll wait until September 2015 to launch a new flashship. They need to have something to go up against the likes of the S6,M9 and G4.
The z3 doesn't stand a chance against any of those. It's already lower specced than the note 4 and even nexus 6.
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I would like to wait for the Z4, but isn't that going to end up being $700+ on launch?? I don't get phones on contract so that generally why i wanted to go with the Z2 in the first place, other than the fact that the Z3 isn't much of an upgrade over the Z2.