Hi guys, just wanna ask if unlocking bootloader reduce image quality, because my xzu camera image quality looks different with xzu displayed on store.
My xzu (unlocked bootloader stock rom) when taking image in low light, the black/ dark area look abit purple or green noise if zoomed in. I already switch back to stock rom, but the problem still the same.
Compared with the one on store (same stock rom) the black color looks better (no purple dots only white noise or blurred).
Did anyone experience this problem? Or is it just me?
Thanks guys
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teruhiko666 said:
Hi guys, just wanna ask if unlocking bootloader reduce image quality, because my xzu camera image quality looks different with xzu displayed on store.
My xzu (unlocked bootloader stock rom) when taking image in low light, the black/ dark area look abit purple or green noise if zoomed in. I already switch back to stock rom, but the problem still the same.
Compared with the one on store (same stock rom) the black color looks better (no purple dots only white noise or blurred).
Did anyone experience this problem? Or is it just me?
Thanks guys
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No don't think so. ive never seen any difference between camera quality, and no one else has ever reported it either.
My camera is shocking to start with, I'd hate to think it might get worse from unlocking the bootloader!
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Let's say my camera had AIDS. If unlocking the bootloader makes any differences to the quality, it'll still have AIDS, but v2.0. It was bad and it's still bad I've used it once and I've ignored it like a red headed* stepchild after that.
*If I've hurt any redheads' feelings out there, I'm sorry. (I love me some red headed girls, though)
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Let's say my camera had AIDS. If unlocking the bootloader makes any differences to the quality, it'll still have AIDS, but v2.0. It was bad and it's still bad I've used it once and I've ignored it like a red headed* stepchild after that.
*If I've hurt any redheads' feelings out there, I'm sorry. (I love me some red headed girls, though)
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You do have a knack for putting things in layman's terms
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You do have a knack for putting things in layman's terms
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Yeah, not everyone's style, but i like to make a point; lurid or not
Funny.. my Step-son is a red head... No offence taken :highfive:
I know this is off topic... but Lord and Spider are here, so there's that
I have been using a Z1 from a colleague and I've been a little/... well.... underwhelmed with its camera. 20.7mp and its pretty average too.
Zooming in reveals a massive amount of noise like on our Ultra. The images are 6mb each, so its not as if its going through a massive amount of post processing. I just think Sony really haven't made hardware good enough even though their 'g' lens for mobile was a marketing point.
Resizing the image down to 1080 make it look nice. But it did on the Ultra too... I really hope Sony continue to make improvements to this with the Z2 and Ultra 2..
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I know this is off topic... but Lord and Spider are here, so there's that
I have been using a Z1 from a colleague and I've been a little/... well.... underwhelmed with its camera. 20.7mp and its pretty average too.
Zooming in reveals a massive amount of noise like on our Ultra. The images are 6mb each, so its not as if its going through a massive amount of post processing. I just think Sony really haven't made hardware good enough even though their 'g' lens for mobile was a marketing point.
Resizing the image down to 1080 make it look nice. But it did on the Ultra too... I really hope Sony continue to make improvements to this with the Z2 and Ultra 2..
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Hey! Me, you and Spider are running this show, so off topic post: granted (until a mod comes here and punishes me)
How about the display? The Z1 is allegedly using a TN TFT panel while the Ultra uses a AH-IPS panel. How's the viewing angles? TFT should have poor viewing angles.
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Hey! Me, you and Spider are running this show, so off topic post: granted (until a mod comes here and punishes me)
How about the display? The Z1 is allegedly using a TN TFT panel while the Ultra uses a AH-IPS panel. How's the viewing angles? TFT should have poor viewing angles.
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Yep this is our show!
The Z1 looks very similar. I can't compare as ultra isn't fixed. I must have done a real number on it! Gotta love flashing the TA partition unrooting so Sony think its a stock device!
Anyway... the Z1 does have a weird colour change when viewing extreme angles. Colour kinda goes to purplish/orange tint, it also looses its colour punch. Faded. It feels fat too. The Ultra is a much better device. I'm def gonna get the QX10 as an addon. Even with the Z1 I'd do the same.. the camera really isn't as good as I thought it would be.
EDIT: just bought the QX10 off ebay... BOOM!
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Funny.. my Step-son is a red head... No offence taken :highfive:
I know this is off topic... but Lord and Spider are here, so there's that
I have been using a Z1 from a colleague and I've been a little/... well.... underwhelmed with its camera. 20.7mp and its pretty average too.
Zooming in reveals a massive amount of noise like on our Ultra. The images are 6mb each, so its not as if its going through a massive amount of post processing. I just think Sony really haven't made hardware good enough even though their 'g' lens for mobile was a marketing point.
Resizing the image down to 1080 make it look nice. But it did on the Ultra too... I really hope Sony continue to make improvements to this with the Z2 and Ultra 2..
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Make me correct if I'm wrong but Sony produce sensor Exmor RS for iphone 5 and 5s as I read in an article, so if we go this way in our ZU supposse to be comparable hardware as we can find in Apple device. I'm not a fan of Apple products but even I have to agree with superiority of Iphone camera , so I think a key to picture quallity is a Software/Driver issue.
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Make me correct if I'm wrong but Sony produce sensor Exmor RS for iphone 5 and 5s as I read in an article, so if we go this way in our ZU supposse to be comparable hardware as we can find in Apple device. I'm not a fan of Apple products but even I have to agree with superiority of Iphone camera , so I think a key to picture quallity is a Software/Driver issue.
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Yeah, Apple products use Sony sensors as far as I know.
Also a small correction from me: I said the Z1 uses a TN TFT panel, but it's MVA TFT.
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Thx for all the input guys, probably i just need to double check the setting. But seriously, i feel the different when comparing with xzu displayed on store *sigh*
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Just wanna tell u guys, i just update to 4.3 stock rom, now all the purple noises are gone. I feel so relieved. It was a software problem. Now im curious how this new 4.3 rom gonna fix my xperia z c6602 with same issue.. Thx for all the input guys
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Hey guys I was testing our 1080 p and noticed that our camera was horrible when looking at things with lights like a TV screen or something you really couldn't see anything on there it just looked very bright. It happens when your filming people and there's a light in the background also it just shows up as a huge glare and its horrible. It's on all roms and I think its just the camera in general. My friend also has this phone and I tested it and it resulted in the same thing. Light sources are being shown to much I guess and trust me it's horrible to try and show off your phone and claiming to have one of the best phones in the world and your camera 1080p is filming horribly. It's retarded as hell and up until this discovery I've had no complaints about this phone. So my question is what can we do to fix this. I've tried lowering the EV Control to negative 2 and it still gave the glare. Do we have to wait for an update to fix this problem or what.
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are you on stock or custom rom? i am on unnamed v2.2.1 and having 'continous autofocus' issue during 1080p shooting that makes the video blurry and sticky.i have posted this in unnamed dev forum.
meanwhile, as a workaround i use 720p mode that somehow makes video kinda okay.
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are you on stock or custom rom? i am on unnamed v2.2.1 and having 'continous autofocus' issue during 1080p shooting that makes the video blurry and sticky.i have posted this in unnamed dev forum.
meanwhile, as a workaround i use 720p mode that somehow makes video kinda okay.
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It happens on both and its horrible. I should be able to use the features I was promised without trouble
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This problem can not be fixed.
The detector has a limited dynamic range- smaller pixels have lower dynamic range. The lens needs to be small, otherwise the device isn't pocket friendly. Lens size must be matched to pixel size, so even if a manufacturer wanted to include a high dynamic range imager in a cellphone, size-constraints make it unlikely.
It isn't realistic to expect a phone camera to compare in quality to a dedicated (and larger device) camera.
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This problem can not be fixed.
The detector has a limited dynamic range- smaller pixels have lower dynamic range. The lens needs to be small, otherwise the device isn't pocket friendly. Lens size must be matched to pixel size, so even if a manufacturer wanted to include a high dynamic range imager in a cellphone, size-constraints make it unlikely.
It isn't realistic to expect a phone camera to compare in quality to a dedicated (and larger device) camera.
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That's not relevant at all. There are multiple phones that have great cameras such as the Xperia arc. And I expect a device that outperforms others. That's why I bought this phone. And even my old Xperia x10 camera was able to cover white balance a lot better in certain areas. Our camera should be better. It takes great still shots but horrible video in lighted areas I guess. It doesn't make sense.
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If someone could modify the Camera to accept tap to focus and exposure in video mode it would be perfect. That's what the issue is. However, I notice that during recording it is a LOT better than what it is when you just set video mode and look at it.
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If someone could modify the Camera to accept tap to focus and exposure in video mode it would be perfect. That's what the issue is. However, I notice that during recording it is a LOT better than what it is when you just set video mode and look at it.
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I just don't get how we have one of the greatest cameras and it does this bad with white balance. And yes I noticed the recording thing too
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Wouldnt it be awesome to permanantly set mobile bravia engine to the entire ui? Rather than just in videos? Is there hope for gamma controls on the XZU and would you want to have this feature?
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Wouldnt it be awesome to permanantly set mobile bravia engine to the entire ui? Rather than just in videos? Is there hope for gamma controls on the XZU and would you want to have this feature?
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Without built in controls these features need to be added in through custom kernels. It tends to be a lot of work to incorporate these features if its not provided at some level too.
Hopefully we'll see it someday (& soon at that) but I wouldn't get my hopes up
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Without built in controls these features need to be added in through custom kernels. It tends to be a lot of work to incorporate these features if its not provided at some level too.
Hopefully we'll see it someday (& soon at that) but I wouldn't get my hopes up
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Damn, im holding back on the purchase on the XZU because the stocks colors have not enough kick to me
Honestly the xzu colors are quote saturated.. if u increase itanymore its just another samdung product. The beat close to natural.colors are now.peoduced.by xzu
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Honestly the xzu colors are quote saturated.. if u increase itanymore its just another samdung product. The beat close to natural.colors are now.peoduced.by xzu
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Yes i very much prefer the samsung eye popping colors. It makes the device look exclusive and expensive to my mates, as poor colors are associated with sh1tty lcds like the ipad mini
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Yes i very much prefer the samsung eye popping colors. It makes the device look exclusive and expensive to my mates, as poor colors are associated with sh1tty lcds like the ipad mini
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go with samsunk then
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go with samsunk then
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If only the made a waterproof and 6.5 inch one
Then get some balls, and give a **** about what others think/say about any electronic device...
Impress them with tech-skills, and not with being as dumb as they are.
Which then leads you to the comfortable situation to enjoy the way more natural display of the XZU, instead of looking for something not better but just more "popular".
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Then get some balls, and give a **** about what others think/say about any electronic device...
Impress them with tech-skills, and not with being as dumb as they are.
Which then leads you to the comfortable situation to enjoy the way more natural display of the XZU, instead of looking for something not better but just more "popular".
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Dont tell me what to do, I prefer a more punchier color tone than a neutral one, an untuned ips screen just makes the device feel low end and cheap. Much like a cheap acer tablet, an untuned screen of a nexus 10 looks like crap and the stock xperia z ultra screen looks muted, compare it with mobile bravia engine on and off, youll see the significance of color enhancement. With an amoled screen it feels vivid and pleasing to the eye, sunsets in movies feel warmer and scenes look much more dramatic. Its not about how close something looks like in real life, its about immersing yourself in a more vivid experience. Amoled and/or ips screen with color enhancement all day.
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Dont tell me what to do, I prefer a more punchier color tone than a neutral one, an untuned ips screen just makes the device feel low end and cheap. Much like a cheap acer tablet, an untuned screen of a nexus 10 looks like crap and the stock xperia z ultra screen looks muted, compare it with mobile bravia engine on and off, youll see the significance of color enhancement. With an amoled screen it feels vivid and pleasing to the eye, sunsets in movies feel warmer and scenes look much more dramatic. Its not about how close something looks like in real life, its about immersing yourself in a more vivid experience. Amoled and/or ips screen with color enhancement all day.
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Well I somehow understand the feeling of "better than real life" sentiment, as I'm not the type to be offended by the oversaturation on amoleds (but if it has color shift, then amoled can kiss my a**).. But not saying that I miss it either.
But overprocessing engines like xreality only works best in certain situation. I notice that xreality gives us somewhat "de-anti-aliased" look that make image sharper but sometimes it gives weird artifact, depending on the texture it's rendering - most of the times they look pretty to me, though. And the colors are tacky, yeahhh.
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I don't understand the love of of hugely over saturated screens. Why doesn't every manufacturer strive for pure accuracy?
/baffled
Now that the Ultra LTE is finally available at the Sony Stores, there is only one question - should i get this or the Z1?
I cant decide. I really like this phone but the camera is sub par with no flash. The Z1 has a decent shooter, but the design is not so thin and the screen had some negative reviews. ohh and its 1.4" smaller
what do you guys say?
X1? Haha or you mean Z1
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X1? Haha or you mean Z1
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lol yes, i meant z1
It really depends..overall Z1 is a better phone than the Z ultra. (unless the screen is as bad as some reviewers are saying..the screen on the z ultra is amazing)
If you like big screens than obviously Z ultra
If you take a lot of photos than obviously Z1
That's pretty much the difference between the two.
I had this same dilemma and chose Z ultra simply because I wanted a big (the biggest) screen and although the camera is not that great, it's okay because i don't take photos anyway.
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It really depends..overall Z1 is a better phone than the Z ultra. (unless the screen is as bad as some reviewers are saying..the screen on the z ultra is amazing)
If you like big screens than obviously Z ultra
If you take a lot of photos than obviously Z1
That's pretty much the difference between the two.
I had this same dilemma and chose Z ultra simply because I wanted a big (the biggest) screen and although the camera is not that great, it's okay because i don't take photos anyway.
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i guess thats the issue. although i dont take a lot of photos, but when i do, my cellphone is my main (and only) camera. lol
so i expect decent pictures. Ultra really fails at that, especially in low light
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i guess thats the issue. although i dont take a lot of photos, but when i do, my cellphone is my main (and only) camera. lol
so i expect decent pictures. Ultra really fails at that, especially in low light
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In decent lighting i think the z ultra is okay for the occasional shot. It's not THAT bad but yeah in low light it really suffers.
Same here, my phone is my only camera, but since I watch much more videos, play more games and browse the web far more often than i take photos, choosing the z utlra was a no brainer..
So I guess it depends on what you need most.
If only the z ultra had a good camera, it would be a perfect phone!
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In decent lighting i think the z ultra is okay for the occasional shot. It's not THAT bad but yeah in low light it really suffers.
Same here, my phone is my only camera, but since I watch much more videos, play more games and browse the web far more often than i take photos, choosing the z utlra was a no brainer..
So I guess it depends on what you need most.
If only the z ultra had a good camera, it would be a perfect phone!
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If the ultra had a good camera it would be as thick as a ****ty One Max and lose much of it's appeal.
I got both the Z1 and Z Ultra. If I had to chose I'd pick the ultra. It's just the best phone to work with in the whole world. Size is an issue but you can always manage somehow.
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If the ultra had a good camera it would be as thick as a ****ty One Max and much of it's appeal.
I got both the Z1 and Z Ultra. If I had to chose I'd pick the ultra. It's just the best phone to work with in the whole world. Size is an issue but you can always manage somehow.
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Yeah I agree one max is too thick. Stupid actually from HTC
Actually the Z ultra still fits in my jeans pocket so for me size is not so bad!
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Z1 is the better all round phone in my opinion. Z Ultra has the better and bigger screen, but sacrifices the camera and is less portable due to the size.
All smartphone cameras are terrible anyways when compared to a DSLR.
For me its all about the screen. Its large enough so that it can replace your tablet and forms your primary reading/media consumption device as well as phone.
Z1 is just another phone with an overrated camera.
Both cameras will be fine for social media/happy snaps.
YMMV.
Yep I agree, if camera is ok enough for social media sites, I'm a-ok with that! Hence, I decided to get the XZU. I'd rather have a unique looking phablet (in terms of size) that I can browse, read, text, call and take pics with.
I was in the same boat last week. I went with ZU because the extra screen estate was on top of my list. You need to sort out your priorities as well. For me, ZU replaced a 5 inch phone and a 7 inch tablet all together. So it was a no-brainer. I also considered z1 for its camera. Like someone else said, ZU camera is not bad at all and I never used flash to take low light pictures (it freaks people out and these cheap $1 flash on smartphones basically ruin lowlight pictures). To sum it up
For big screen, sleek profile, excellent display, tablet usage, decent camera - go for ZU. Get the Sony CP12 3000 mAh power cover and double up on battery life.
For compact size, excellent camera - go for z1.
Performance of both are pretty much the same.
So an update for the OP I looked at the Z1 in store and reviewer's were right. The Z1's screen is washed out when compared to the Z ultra's and the viewing angles are comparable to the original Z
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yeah i noticed the same.
I called all the sony stores in Toronto and NONE of them had the unlocked ZU in stock. Apparently they don't have stock :S
I may just order online from the sony store. Its weird how they have NO cases on the sony store website for the phone either.
all the cameras on cell phones to me are the same with the exception of the nokia lumia and HTC one because the yhave optical image stabilization. A sony store employee told me last week when choosing the Z1 or ZU that they don't have OIS because they sell the QX100 and QX 10.
Funny, probally everybody went trough this process. I also hesitated when I heard of the camera.
But this screen is awesome, its like having a new high end lcd tv. But the in your hand.
The device is very thin, it gives it a very sophisticated look. Because its so thin i've the feeling it makes the phone look smaller then it actually is. And as mentioned before in daylight pictures are ok. Pictures outside are just the same as any other phone. Actually a photo outside and subject closeby it makes very decent photos.
When people see me with the phone, they first make a joke or something. When i turn the screen on, they're openly asking themselves if they also should buy and then where they should put it
Let me tell u something in terms of picture quality. It os beaten by even the ipad and ipad mini. Video recording. Quality is pretty good. But this is the worst.shooter.
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Not a pro when taking photos. I take photos too but not too often, sometimes at daytime and seldom in the night. actually it's terrible at night. however, as i mentioned, I'm not a pro but for normal use, under normal, ISO and other adjustments would be better than auto. Just give a shot bro.
And for z1, i think camera is the only advantage.
Zu, fails for camera, but wins for all.
Cuz i like bigger screen and thinner body more than a camera which i could buy a real camera in the future.
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Hi Guys,
I recently switched from Xperia Z1 to Z2 and m really disappointed with the Camera performance. Ideally Z1 and Z2 camera should give me same result but somehow my Z2's pictures arn't cmng good.
I am talking about night/low light shots, even my Z1 is giving me better result than Z2 !!! Is my set faulty or everybody is facing this issue?
Second thing, when I am selection anything more than 8MP, in manual mode - the option of scene selection gets disabled? Why???
15.5 and 20.7 mp disable scenes and hdr. Wasn't the same in z1?
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15.5 and 20.7 mp disable scenes and hdr. Wasn't the same in z1?
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agree, but how about Image Quality - my Z1 giving better results than Z2?
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agree, but how about Image Quality - my Z1 giving better results than Z2?
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You're the only one I think with this problem. Most agree that image quality is considerably improved from z1 especially lowlight. Not sure what else to stay.
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You're the only one I think with this problem. Most agree that image quality is considerably improved from z1 especially lowlight. Not sure what else to stay.
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Dude - check this thread below and compare the pictures, m not JUST saying - I have both Z1 and Z2 to compare !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2673226
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Dude - check this thread below and compare the pictures, m not JUST saying - I have both Z1 and Z2 to compare !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2673226
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I too have both phones. The Z2 is a definite improvement in IQ compared to the Z1, low light shots are way better! you must have a duff device as MOST agree that the camera is definitely one area it excels over the Z1 for sure.
But camera module of z1 and 2 are still the same correct? If thats the case then I believe there are some massive update to the software. Hope it will come to Z1 eventually. I did notice the file size seems to be bigger than z2, so maybe shots are less compressed now.
Maybe you have a bad device? I'm sure there is some variance to these components.
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Maybe you have a bad device? I'm sure there is some variance to these components.
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can I ask Sony to replace it? How will I justify???
xperiax10.awesome said:
Hi Guys,
I recently switched from Xperia Z1 to Z2 and m really disappointed with the Camera performance. Ideally Z1 and Z2 camera should give me same result but somehow my Z2's pictures arn't cmng good.
I am talking about night/low light shots, even my Z1 is giving me better result than Z2 !!! Is my set faulty or everybody is facing this issue?
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I too switched from Z1 to Z2. IMO, image quality on the Z2 is much better than Z1 in night / low light / indoor shots. In daylight shots however the Z1 shots are sharper (maybe due to different processing), Z2 shots (daylight) tend to be softer especially towards the edges / distant objects, but have less noise than Z1. Overall, I think Z2 camera is better but needs some tweaking around for daylight shots.
BTW, I'm on second Z2 (first one had touchscreen issues) and both had similar camera results vs Z1 (which was also replaced thrice before).
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can I ask Sony to replace it? How will I justify???
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That would all depend on how you bought the device and what your local return policies look like.
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That would all depend on how you bought the device and what your local return policies look like.
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Will chk tomorrow with Sony Singapore.
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As the title indicates I am interested to see what people who own the Z2 feel about shutter speed in auto 8mp wide mode and also the cameras ability to Freeze motion both indoor and outdoor shots.
I would be very interested to hear from anyone who has a G3 as I have one on pre-order and also how the camera speed compares to the M8 super speedy camera.
I have watched loads of reviews and the time it takes from pressing shutter to the camera animation / taking seems a little slow but not many reviews talk about this subject.
The reason I ask is I have fast moving kids
Thanks in advance.
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Ive found that superiour auto doesnt always work but when it does the snapspeed is very rapid with minimal bluring
Z2 can record at 120fps maximum so there is video recording (slow motion edits are fun to play with)
3200 max iso (higher =faster snap)
Z2 does get a little warm when using the camera
I dont own the other two devices so my reivews/info is from 20 mins of experiance
The M8 has a alittle better due to the dedicated HW however pictured dont look as sharp and vibrant
The G3 i havnt seen much of aside hearing that focusing hardly ever fails and the sharpness of the camera is perfect
Id say look for camera shootouts
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Thanks for reply. I like camera shootouts but they never focus (lol) on the fast moving subjects and concentrate on low light and daylight shots.
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Thanks for reply. I like camera shootouts but they never focus (lol) on the fast moving subjects and concentrate on low light and daylight shots.
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I find that camera shootouts are hopeless for reflecting real world use (if I see another macro shot of a pink flower i'm gonna explode!).
I bought the G2 a few months ago based on the positive reviews of the camera (all landscapes and flowers of course) and boy did I end up regretting that! G2 shutter speed was woeful - it was impossible to take a good picture of my kids when the lighting was anything less than absolutely perfect. Also, the G2's noise reduction algorithm meant that even if your kids do stay still for a second, they'll end up looking like an oil painting (in less than good light).
Also the video on the G2 was shocking too - really contrasty in good light and very bad in low light - audio wasn't good either
I ended up selling the G2 and going for a Z2, and I have to say I'm very happy indeed - camera is much better than the G2 - shutter speed for capturing kids is about as good as you'll get on a phone. Video is brilliant too (its digital stabilisation is the best I've seen). In low light, the Z2 does very well indeed. There's a bit of noise, but I'd much prefer that to my kids looking like they have plastic faces!
Anyway, the G3 camera *looks* better than the G2 , but I was so disappointed by the G2 that I don't know if i can even trust the reviews as they aren't really focussed on my (and your) typical use-cases.
Anyway, that's my tuppence. I know how important it is to capture memories of the kids and I have to say the Z2 hasn't let me down.
le_lutin said:
I find that camera shootouts are hopeless for reflecting real world use (if I see another macro shot of a pink flower i'm gonna explode!).
I bought the G2 a few months ago based on the positive reviews of the camera (all landscapes and flowers of course) and boy did I end up regretting that! G2 shutter speed was woeful - it was impossible to take a good picture of my kids when the lighting was anything less than absolutely perfect. Also, the G2's noise reduction algorithm meant that even if your kids do stay still for a second, they'll end up looking like an oil painting (in less than good light).
Also the video on the G2 was shocking too - really contrasty in good light and very bad in low light - audio wasn't good either
I ended up selling the G2 and going for a Z2, and I have to say I'm very happy indeed - camera is much better than the G2 - shutter speed for capturing kids is about as good as you'll get on a phone. Video is brilliant too (its digital stabilisation is the best I've seen). In low light, the Z2 does very well indeed. There's a bit of noise, but I'd much prefer that to my kids looking like they have plastic faces!
Anyway, the G3 camera *looks* better than the G2 , but I was so disappointed by the G2 that I don't know if i can even trust the reviews as they aren't really focussed on my (and your) typical use-cases.
Anyway, that's my tuppence. I know how important it is to capture memories of the kids and I have to say the Z2 hasn't let me down.
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Really helpful. Thanks very much. What is the time from when you press the shutter from it actually taking a pic. HTC and g3 are super fast but z2 appears to have a small delay ?
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I've taken a few photos from moving cars and they almost always turned out extremely clear. I was very impressed
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I've taken a few photos from moving cars and they almost always turned out extremely clear. I was very impressed
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Impressive. What about running kids or pets ?
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Took some pics of my son running around and kicking a football about and they all came out clear even shots with ball in the air and him running.
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Took some pics of my son running around and kicking a football about and they all came out clear even shots with ball in the air and him running.
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Wow. That's pretty good to hear. Could anyone please post samples of fast moving stuff. Would love to see a dog running being frozen or if someone could bounce a tennis ball and try to capture it whilst it's in fast motion ...not at the top of the bounce where it stops in mid air. Still trying to make a decision between this phone and g3 which I preordered. Not very confident that the g3 camera is going to be better than the Z2 ... Still deciding. Thanks for all the help.
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Will see what I can do
ipmanwck said:
Really helpful. Thanks very much. What is the time from when you press the shutter from it actually taking a pic. HTC and g3 are super fast but z2 appears to have a small delay ?
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The delay is probably because it re-focuses before it takes the picture. Fortunately the dedicated camera button comes in handy here because you have the ability to half-press the shutter button which will focus and lock the focus until you do a full-press. Means that you can be much more certain that what you see when you press is what you get when the photo is processed.
You can actually acheive the same result with the on-screen buttonby first pressing it (which locks focus) and then unpressing it, which will fire the shutter.
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The delay is probably because it re-focuses before it takes the picture. Fortunately the dedicated camera button comes in handy here because you have the ability to half-press the shutter button which will focus and lock the focus until you do a full-press. Means that you can be much more certain that what you see when you press is what you get when the photo is processed.
You can actually acheive the same result with the on-screen buttonby first pressing it (which locks focus) and then unpressing it, which will fire the shutter.
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Thanks. I went and had a good test of the camera in 3 UK today. I found that half holding the hardware shutter key then fully pressing it was effective. I tested it instore but found that when I waved my hand back and forward and tried to capture it in a still image of struggled a little. If I didn't half hold the shutter to lock focus I found auto focus was not that quick compared to m8 and s5. Not bad but not as quick. Timeshift is excellent and overall I think camera was quite good. I always buy phones SIM free but I would only pay 450 for one. It's currently £550 which is steep when the other handsets are around 400 now. Waiting for a good deal.
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I try to shooting the puppies while they playing with auto mode. It look ok for me.
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I try to shooting the puppies while they playing with auto mode. It look ok for me.
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Thanks for pic. Taken through glass too ! Nice. A little blurred around the foot of the moving white dog but really appreciate the pic.
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ipmanwck said:
Thanks. I went and had a good test of the camera in 3 UK today. I found that half holding the hardware shutter key then fully pressing it was effective. I tested it instore but found that when I waved my hand back and forward and tried to capture it in a still image of struggled a little. If I didn't half hold the shutter to lock focus I found auto focus was not that quick compared to m8 and s5. Not bad but not as quick. Timeshift is excellent and overall I think camera was quite good. I always buy phones SIM free but I would only pay 450 for one. It's currently £550 which is steep when the other handsets are around 400 now. Waiting for a good deal.
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For me the focus speed is much, much less important than the shutter speed. It could take a second to focus (it doesn't, obviously) and I still wouldn't care that much as long as it was able to freeze the action.
I bought mine about a month ago in store from 3 UK for £459. Price must have gone up since then. £550 is definitely quite steep.
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For me the focus speed is much, much less important than the shutter speed. It could take a second to focus (it doesn't, obviously) and I still wouldn't care that much as long as it was able to freeze the action.
I bought mine about a month ago in store from 3 UK for £459. Price must have gone up since then. £550 is definitely quite steep.
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I hear what your saying. What phone did you come from. Yes the price has shot up. 549 is a joke. Apparently ee were selling then at 429 but missed it .... Booooo.
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I hear what your saying. What phone did you come from. Yes the price has shot up. 549 is a joke. Apparently ee were selling then at 429 but missed it .... Booooo.
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Came from a G2. Really liked it but i just couldn't live with the camera. Such a disappointment. Before that I had a Note 2, which was very good. Excellent camera. I find the pictures with the samsungs are a bit sharper which I have to admit I preferred. Z2 pics have a bit less sharpness to them. I'd take the Z2 camera all day long though as it's better in low light than the note 2.
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Came from a G2. Really liked it but i just couldn't live with the camera. Such a disappointment. Before that I had a Note 2, which was very good. Excellent camera. I find the pictures with the samsungs are a bit sharper which I have to admit I preferred. Z2 pics have a bit less sharpness to them. I'd take the Z2 camera all day long though as it's better in low light than the note 2.
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G2 camera was pretty bad. Sammy has poor low light shots. Good to hear z2 is better.
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If anyone can post more samples that would be great. Thanks.
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le_lutin said:
I find that camera shootouts are hopeless for reflecting real world use (if I see another macro shot of a pink flower i'm gonna explode!).
I bought the G2 a few months ago based on the positive reviews of the camera (all landscapes and flowers of course) and boy did I end up regretting that! G2 shutter speed was woeful - it was impossible to take a good picture of my kids when the lighting was anything less than absolutely perfect. Also, the G2's noise reduction algorithm meant that even if your kids do stay still for a second, they'll end up looking like an oil painting (in less than good light).
Also the video on the G2 was shocking too - really contrasty in good light and very bad in low light - audio wasn't good either
I ended up selling the G2 and going for a Z2, and I have to say I'm very happy indeed - camera is much better than the G2 - shutter speed for capturing kids is about as good as you'll get on a phone. Video is brilliant too (its digital stabilisation is the best I've seen). In low light, the Z2 does very well indeed. There's a bit of noise, but I'd much prefer that to my kids looking like they have plastic faces!
Anyway, the G3 camera *looks* better than the G2 , but I was so disappointed by the G2 that I don't know if i can even trust the reviews as they aren't really focussed on my (and your) typical use-cases.
Anyway, that's my tuppence. I know how important it is to capture memories of the kids and I have to say the Z2 hasn't let me down.
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This is exactly my case. Have a g2 to and can't capture nothing moving. Is a bit better after a few camera mods but is not ideal. I will buy z2, was a bit worried about camera overheat but I think I will try it anyway.