Hi,
Im running CM11 nightly (Android 4.4.4) on Moto G XT1032 which has circa 900MB or RAM. A friend of mine has another phone (Evolveo Strongphone D2 with stock ROM, Android 4.2). Im using about 112 widgets, my friend only uses about 5 or so.
What Im curious is - is there any way (apart from messing with his phone which none of us want to) to check if the lower RAM would be able to hold all my widgets etc. please?
My friend is satisfied with the phones RAM, having about 100MB free usually.
PS: Reason to consider his phone is that its a rugged and waterproof device with 4500mAh battery.
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Hi Folks,
I would like to start new thread regarding my question so that I can get replies based on latest phones out there. I am looking for an Android phone for my wife and I have few things on my mind.
Existing phone - HTC Explorer. Pretty good phone and the fact that it runs on Gingerbread makes it quite fast and responsive even with mediocre hardware. Only drawback is internal storage (150 mb) which is why I am now looking for new phone.
Expected new phone - (Atleast) 1Ghz dual core, 1GB RAM, >1500 mAh battery, Internal storage 4GB. Display, OS version and other things not so much important. Budget - 15K-18K INR. Also need ambient light sensor mandatory so that I can set "Auto Brightness" ON which makes huge difference on battery.
Usage - Common apps like Facebook, Gmail, Whatsapp and few lightweight games and nothing heavy.
There are a quite a few phones which matches above config in that budget but I tried to did extensive research on reviews by GSMArena, Engadget etc and I couldn't shortlist one proper phone which will give all round performance. What I am really looking for is phone that will not start lagging after usage of couple of months and should provide decent battery backup.
Also I do not understand myth around actual RAM that is available for phone. I thought HTC Desire X could be good phone but I am not quite sure how much RAM out 768MB will be actually user available. I had HTC One V and it said 512 RAM but it showed only 350MB on phone. And HTC phones comes with heavier Sense and it kills lot of RAM. Also I noticed that JellyBean (although butter smooth) tends to lag on phones with lesser RAM. I had rooted my HTC One V and tried CM10 PrimoU on it but still it started lagging after few days. Thus 350MB RAM was never enough for Jellybean. Hence I am not sure how will HTC Desire X turns out.
Good thing about HTC Explorer Gingerbread was that it was lightweight and runs super fast even on ordinary config. I was even tempted to go for Gingerbread out of box phone with better config and never update OS but I am not sure if that will be good decision based on app supports in future. Currently I am using Nexus 4 and no other phone can match its performance with 2GB RAM without additional customization like Sense, Touchwiz etc. But I have some budget constraint buying this new phone and besides, wife not being heavy user and doesn't prefer too large screen phone, I am looking for something else.
Any ideas, suggestion will be helpful.
-Abhijit
Hello. First - sorry for very bad english. I dont been here long time. I have few questions, bcs I am curious.
I used before serious PC machines with Windows 2008 r2 Servers. Also Cent OS. So I am not so big Android expert but I know few things. I also used maybe 20 windows mobile phones before.
So I am limited with lang but I will try to explain problems. I will be little android hater. I haved HTC Tytn 2 for years. He haved 128 MB rams and with some lite/custom roms he run 40 apps without lag on Windows Mobile 6.1
Okay. My favourite Windows OS died so I must move on Android. Okay Samsung Touch Wiz / Android is cool experience. But only UI. I haved s2/s3mini/s3/s3 neo (at this moment)/s4 mini.
So why android suck ? On s2 we have android 2.3.6 (great) and mostly 4.1.2. First work incredible (so much free ram + older apps) nad 4.1.2 work great until last days. I mean today you cant run 3 apps and android close previous apps. Boring. 1 gb ram for what ?! Why Android consume so much ram ? For what ? Okay Android is cool, nice UI, but 1 gb on nothing ?!?! Okay. I understand foreground/background/cached process. I mean no matter how much new device you have.
RAM kill you !!! Later I buy s3 with quad - he suck. He consume more ram. Btw I root all devices and use scripts to debloat and I also alone remove apps/services. S3 is nice phone if you want to run 2-3 modern apps.
Cached process sucks. They slow down phones like hell. Okay I sold bad s3 and buy s4 mini.
Great phone 1.5 gb ram, solid dual core.... but we actually have 1.35 ram and 906 MB used on stock rom. Lol. I make serious debloat on 4.2.2 (brazilian) bcs stupid Samsung dont allow downgrade from even worse 4.4.2.
So after very serious debloat, scripts and lot of learning I make my best result. 312 MB ram USED from 1350 MB.
Super fast experience. I run 24 apps instant on stock debloated rom. I googled every stupid process. I removed almost everything expect contacts/sms/gallery.... I haved 9 icons. Only 5 active process. Super fast.
But after some time superamoled lose colors (i used him all day like PC) and my eyes was hurted so much. So I buy new s3 neo.
1.5 GB ram (1.35 available). On stock (no provider) rom he use 800 MB. From 1.35 GB. After 2 apps he is sooooooo super slow. And this is "smartphone" ?!?!?!? I cant run few stupid apps ? Bcs of lack of ram ?
Okay I modified script from s4 mini from Jelly Bean and I removed everything on Kit Kat. Result is 512 MB used from 1350. Okay. Not so bad.
I also save 20 GB old apps. They consume much less memory. So I installed same apps like on s4 mini with 4.2.2.
On s3 Neo with 4.4.2 they consume much moreeeeeeeee ram. Phone is super fast until you run browser + 2-3 apps. After that ram move on 1 GB used and he never user 0.35 GB. Limit is 1.35 GB.
So I am curious what is hell wrong with android ? If I dont have money to buy device with 3 GB ram I am in serious trouble to run smothly few android apps.
So from my personal experience expect pure CPU power, even Windows Mobile 6.1 with 128 MB ram do tasks lot better than android with 1.5 GB ram. Even my Tytn 2 run 30 much serious apps then simple android on 128 mb ram with no problem.
Every year we got new devices, new Android OS and more slower phones. I mean come on. For what android spend all my ram (expect stupid cashing) and make phone damn slow for every simple multitasking with few apps ?!?!
Only 2 android os what was good are : S2 with old 2.3.6 (old apps - blazing fast) and s4 mini 4.2.2 (serious debloat).
With my last phone s3 neo I am disapointed. He consume damn so much ram even if he is serious debloated (500 ram of 1350 usage). After 3 apps he slow down. For me is Android huge fail.
So I want to move on on Windows Phone. I always used HTC WM and Samsung Android.
I dont care for options and new os. I want to run super smooth browser, irc, image browser, badoo and to listen YT. That is all. So can someone reccomend me any newer phone (not new) what can do few simple tasks without lag ? Even HTC Tytn 2 work better than s3 neo (expect Popcorn movies - hardware). I really need new platform and good multitasking.
And why the hell Samsung make so good and bad phones in ssme time ? Amoled is best, specs are good but android sucks in every sence. Multitasking ZERO. Ram consumption WORST, performance downgrade after few even older apps HUGE.
I like s3 neo like phone. But I want simple stock os with 1 GB ram free ! Not to fill ram with 2 stupid apps. I dont have money for galaxy s5/s6. Android like OS on MY PERSONAL NOOB oppinion is worst experience.
Which phone to buy and what about Windows Phone ? WP look bad (ugly) but if he is half good like WM I will change OS. I only want multitaking sith minimal 10 apps running without problem.
Hello,
So i got myself an Edge with 3GB of RAM, since i have been using another SO for a while now i'm not updated on android systems anymore so please help me out if you can.
After boot, installing the basics (FB, Flipboard etc. etc.) and setting up everything i only have about 700MB available, so where is the rest??
Before you all start saying that i installed too much trash, have too much bloatware etc. etc. let me inform you that:
1- I have a J5 (single SIM) with 1.5GB of RAM with the EXACT same setup as this one, the diference is the loss off about 1.5 to 2 GB of RAM since i have the same amount of RAM available on my J5.
2- I disabled the apps i don't use so they are "offline" and shouldn't interfere with the count.
So same setup with a weaker phone....... and almost the same RAM available....
The only diference between my edge and the J5 is that i have a smartwatch paired to it, but after the test with the J5 (yes it will accept my smartwatch) there is no diference in RAM on my J5......
Please help me to understand this before i take it back to the shop.......
Beco
You do know how android works right? I have a edge+ with 4gb of ram and at this moment I have 711mb free and guess what it's smooth and fast because having a lot of ram without the system use its not how android works
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So what you are telling me is that besides the almost 400MB reserved, the same apps, same version of OS and the same usage i will have always this amount of RAM occupied??
Ok, now i will bring this back to the store and get myself a cheap 2GB RAM phone...... No point of having a device that is always cramped up without the possibility of expanding. I do a lot of multitasking (as soon as the holidays are over) and i thought that this would be a device that can "handle" it. I have seen the batt. problems and tried to read about the RAM management that should be solved with the marshmellow update ..... I think that this device is going to be a problem for me to use.......
I had a Galaxy note (1) before and the only reason i sold it was because of the "always ocupied RAM" and it was a PIA with multitasking. Have used a diferent OS ever since but loved the edge so decided to give it another shot, wrong idea.
For me if a device lasts all day (18H) and can handle multitasking i'm happy......
beco
Hello!
Recently I have been having issues with my phone. I have already tried multiple oreo roms from "The best gaming rom" thread, but none of them worked perfectly for over a month. Every one started to lag, and randomly crash/restart without SIM PIN input (right to the lock screen) when I am not aware of it at all. I am also having issues with camera which almost always crashes, when taking pictures - could it be related to lag? ... Anyway even with custom kernels, clearing cache and many other RAM management (greenify) apps, I am without succes. I own 2/16 model, but I always have at least 300 mb free RAM. Is my phone dying? Could it be NAND storage related?
Best regards!
Try with 1gb or 1.5gb of ZRAM
Ps: do you try update firmware with fastboot?
2gb ram phones just don't cut these days. The UIs these days are becoming very heavy, and too much for 2gigs of ram. Having owned 1 myself. I know they're only good for sometime.
Hey,
I own 3GB model and its lag hell on every oreo ROM. I did little research and come to know that most oreo ROM fails to get deep sleep. I tried Greenify but its not working. Then I check RAM usage and after opening few apps it express 2 GB usage and only 300 to 500 MB free left. So may be this is reason your phone lag on every oreo as It always use up to 2.1 GB RAM (as I remember, before it was around 1.6 GB on nougat)
I've got an aging Redmi Note 3 16GB/2GB RAM that has started lagging. It's just that 2GB RAM phones can't keep up in 2018. Your best bet would be going back to official MIUI 10 or old Nitrogen 7.1.2 Nougat for the 2GB variant.
Thank you for your answers. I guess there's no good ROM for oreo (yet).
+1 for the ones said before me: 2G of RAM is nothing, that was nothing when this phone was launched, sometimes I feel 3G is still not enough for everthing but I would be crazy if I had only 2G of RAM. If you go back to the original miui of RN3, that might be optimizd for the config, but forget any hope for using oreo or pie.
I own a 2gb kenzo, staying on a good N rom with zram at 512 mb, never had lags (I'm not a gamer).
I've sometimes faced some lags in O (rare) and P (more frequent). My impression is that 2gb varian has to run N roms.
I have 2 Craig CMP791 tablets. The problem is they are too slow to use. Facebook and Messenger quit responding but even the lite versions are painful. It has 16GB of flash memory but only 500 MB of RAM. I believe the low RAM is the main problem. The processor is an ATM7059C. It came with Lollipop version CMP791-userdebug 5.1.1 LMY47V root03221828 release-keys. I think it might stand a chance running KitKat but I haven't found a ROM that I know will work. The only good thing is they were rooted when I got them. I'm open to ideas.