Hi All,
this night my Alpha was in offline mode and discharged from 100% -->0 within 8hours. even the alarm could not ring. (see attachments).
Then I charged in the morning to 50% and while I was riding the train battery percentage rose to 54% without charging (you can see it on the screenshots).
Any idea what happened?
I called customer care and they send me to the local service partner BUT they would not just change the battery...
They would First they do not have ANY spare part at their location, they do not have replacement phones and they would always flash a new firmware to the deveice and wait at least for 24h to check discharging behavior.
RIght now this is my first samsung phone (probably my last one). The battery has production cost for less than 4€ I would bet (probably even cheaper). You buy a phone for 600€ (about 750$) and I would NOT call this customer care.
Now I wait for my EB-KG850BWEGWW charge station and see if this problem is due to the battery on my own.
Anyone else same experiences or suggestions?
Best,
Blubberor
Blubberor said:
Hi All,
this night my Alpha was in offline mode and discharged from 100% -->0 within 8hours. even the alarm could not ring. (see attachments).
Then I charged in the morning to 50% and while I was riding the train battery percentage rose to 54% without charging (you can see it on the screenshots).
Any idea what happened?
I called customer care and they send me to the local service partner BUT they would not just change the battery...
They would First they do not have ANY spare part at their location, they do not have replacement phones and they would always flash a new firmware to the deveice and wait at least for 24h to check discharging behavior.
RIght now this is my first samsung phone (probably my last one). The battery has production cost for less than 4€ I would bet (probably even cheaper). You buy a phone for 600€ (about 750$) and I would NOT call this customer care.
Now I wait for my EB-KG850BWEGWW charge station and see if this problem is due to the battery on my own.
Anyone else same experiences or suggestions?
Best,
Blubberor
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Android System indicates you have a terrible wake lock. I can't help you diagnose, but I can tell you there's probably nothing physically wrong with your battery. It's your software setup that's causing terrible drain for some reason.
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Blubberor said:
Hi All,
this night my Alpha was in offline mode and discharged from 100% -->0 within 8hours. even the alarm could not ring. (see attachments).
Then I charged in the morning to 50% and while I was riding the train battery percentage rose to 54% without charging (you can see it on the screenshots).
Any idea what happened?
I called customer care and they send me to the local service partner BUT they would not just change the battery...
They would First they do not have ANY spare part at their location, they do not have replacement phones and they would always flash a new firmware to the deveice and wait at least for 24h to check discharging behavior.
RIght now this is my first samsung phone (probably my last one). The battery has production cost for less than 4€ I would bet (probably even cheaper). You buy a phone for 600€ (about 750$) and I would NOT call this customer care.
Now I wait for my EB-KG850BWEGWW charge station and see if this problem is due to the battery on my own.
Anyone else same experiences or suggestions?
Best,
Blubberor
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Define wakelocks. Some app was misbehaving badly.
Restart the phone. Remove apps which aren't important for you and check the status for few hrs. Install BBS to analyze wakelocks. search for BBS (BetterBatteryStats) in XDA/google and check what is sucking the battery.
Alright, just installed BBS.
Hope to find an app draining my battery but do not expect to find anything. Let's see.
Just deactivated juicedefender and now I use it without any power saving apps.
At the same time I will try asap to check with a new battery.
Anyway. Is there anyone having a clue why energy levels were raising without charging?
Thank you already and I keep you updated.
Blubberor
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So...
This looks quite normal to me? What do you think?
Best,
Blubberor
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Blubberor said:
So...
This looks quite normal to me? What do you think?
Best,
Blubberor
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No not really since you have a differential of 2hours and 36minutes between screen on time and awake. That's the drain/wakelock.
(it of course could be normal if you have used a music player a couple of hours with the screen off or some sports activity recording app in the background).
osvanberg said:
No not really since you have a differential of 2hours and 36minutes between screen on time and awake. That's the drain/wakelock.
(it of course could be normal if you have used a music player a couple of hours with the screen off or some sports activity recording app in the background).
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I used it for more than an hour with reading news... and was phoning for 45min.
So any clue if this could be the reason or can I give you more details to analyze what's going on with the device.
Cheers!
Blubberor
Blubberor said:
I used it for more than an hour with reading news... and was phoning for 45min.
So any clue if this could be the reason or can I give you more details to analyze what's going on with the device.
Cheers!
Blubberor
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Reading news do not explain the drain. Then you would have equal amount of time for screen on and awake time.
Phone calls with the screen off however explain those minutes (45m of the differential 2h 36m ).
The rest needs to be found.
You need to share the detailed analysis from the BBS app regarding the wakelocks, screen on time etc. However this app can be abit hard for beginners to get a grip on. Hard to know where to look and how to interpret the info.
I therefore recommend the app GSam Battery Monitor instead. Just as good in presenting the data about battery statistics but in a much more easy and understandable way/UI.
Try it. Let it run for a full battery cycle, then take screen shots from the "main overview screen". Then go to the "app screen", take a new screenshot of this app overview screen. Then go to the view-settings in top right corner, choose to show "time awake" - take screenshot, then "times woken up" take a screenshot and last "kernel wakelock" and take a screenshot.
Upload pics here!
Blubberor said:
Alright, just installed BBS.
Hope to find an app draining my battery but do not expect to find anything. Let's see.
Just deactivated juicedefender and now I use it without any power saving apps.
At the same time I will try asap to check with a new battery.
Anyway. Is there anyone having a clue why energy levels were raising without charging?
Thank you already and I keep you updated.
Blubberor
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I have the same problem, it began when I put my files on the phone , then the battery start to drain, I checked battery usage then I found , the builtin application, index service is what draining my battery , any solution
Thanks
No solution from my side. But hope there are is a solution. The 100 to 0% battery drain did at least not repeat. Same to charging w/o power connection...
This is from last night.. So not too bad.
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Was not possible in the post before..
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Did you try a reboot?
I had the first day also big problems with the battery, it was very hot, and empty with in 4 hours.
The Android-systeem was on 60%.
After the reboot everything was normal.
koenketelaar said:
Did you try a reboot?
I had the first day also big problems with the battery, it was very hot, and empty with in 4 hours.
The Android-systeem was on 60%.
After the reboot everything was normal.
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I did do reboots but bow battery lasts a day. This is fine for me.
Best,
blubberor
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thanks this thread I delete all battery applications and the result..
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screen on time
Was that over 5 hours screen on time with ,Alpha ?
A great result if it is !
Android is scaning/indexing files after first boot. After 2-3 days will get back to normal. You could try cpuspy to see if your alpha go in deep sleep mode. If not, try to reboot and check again after 10 minutes in cpuspy. A reboot always resolve the deep sleep problem ( a program is keepi ng your processor running in a loop). You should now about that even without cpuspy if your alpha is hot without any reason. In normal stand by mode your back should be cool, not warm. Just restart your phone, it takes 15 seconds
Hello everybdy,
I'm an Alpha user now for two weeks.
Let's begin with routine checks.
Typically ı'll suggest to full charge/diacharge your phone for the first 5-8 times. This will provide proper calibration and battety "training" for the phone. I do this with every phone I buy and was always able to see the difference.
Draining during night without any activity happened to me aswell. To times.
I checked immediately the active applications in the task bar. Not that one from the settings. You should see there e.g. internet browser or nothing. For my part which was unusual for me is the youtube. After I stopped it everything went to normal.
I'ts annoying as some web pages start youtube in the background without you realize and keeps there.
I can use the phone up to 1.5 days without prpblems
Hope this helps
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I know battery has been diacussed before but i think this isnt normal. I left the office with almost full charge, listened to music on the.way with bluetoith headset for an hour. Got home and browsed for like half an hour. And here is my battery.
3 hours and the phone is almost dead. I have no apps running. I had 3g on when i left the officw and at home i used wifi.
Is this normal or should i take the.phone back for an exchange?
Regardless, i still love the phone.
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RETURN ZE PHONE
get a new shiny in exchange
btw when u return the phone what do u say exactly
Thats ridiculous man. Maybe you're battery is broken.
That said mine has just drained 35% in 3 hours with almost no usage so maybe it is just the phone.
I think there is 100% guaranteed a software problem and we need samsung to fix it.
It says you've had the display on for quite a long time, music needs the display on? Also that wifi sharing is another culprit.
It drained because you had the screen on nearly the entire time not because anything else
Unless thats a case of the 'phone staying awake' bug. You can freeze wifi sharing with titanium backup to save some juice
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I too am facing the same issue battery drain from 100% to 60% in a span of 3 hours.
I am having a mediocre usage of battery with touchdown as my mail client talking to my corporate exchange. Still it doesn't warrant a drain of 40% in 3 hours.
I dont have much apps installed. Even with juice defender I am not getting better results.
Niket
ale922 said:
Is this normal or should i take the.phone back for an exchange?
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You could say it's normal because if you haven't yet rooted and frozen the wifi sharing process this is the exact behavior everybody else is also having. A new phone will behave in exactly the same way if it's using the current firmware.
You can do two things.
1. root and freeze the process with titanium backup or similar.
2. wait for the next official samsung firmware which may include a fix.
The rooting process takes about 15 minutes and is not too difficult. You may or may not get in to warranty trouble in case of repair, but as I and several of my friends saw it, there really is no other way unless you want a phone with 3-4 hours of battery compared to the 19-23 hours we all get now after the freeze.
Another thing, it won't matter if wifi is turned on or off, the bug and wifi sharing process will still be there.
You will probably read around the net that several processes has to be frozen, but it really only is the "wifi sharing" one that needs to be frozen for the battery drain issue to go away.
What is the "wifi-sharing"?
Mine GS2 is a bit different from the OP's. Android OS occupied 45% while Display only 19%. And charging time is unusually long. Very long. I plugged my GS2 into PC at 9am with 30% left, and by the time I left work 6pm it only got up to 75% something. That's half a day charge.
The rooting process takes about 15 minutes and is not too difficult. You may or may not get in to warranty trouble in case of repair, but as I and several of my friends saw it, there really is no other way unless you want a phone with 3-4 hours of battery compared to the 19-23 hours we all get now after the freeze.
Sorry, whats the freeze. I haven't heard this before ?
Thanks
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What is the "wifi-sharing"?
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I don't really know. But I haven't found a feature not working after the freeze. Even dlna sharing, hotspot etc.. Everything seems to be fine.
You can read more about the issue here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069295
Regarding the unusual long charge time, I haven't heard about that before. It takes my phone about 3 hours to fully charge.
I can recommend this application for monitoring if the phone really sleeps when left on the table and which processes uses your juice in general. It's history based and you will be able to figure out a lot of useful stuff with it.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/systempanellite-task-manager/nextapp.systempanel
I'm also have a similar problem, but mine was after one hour and an half of web surfing using dolphin HD and wifi... it was full, it's now about 25% remaining... Is it normal that the dolphin browser used 39% of the battery ? It's even more than the display... !
Ps: it's actually really hot on the back of the phone, on the top, just under camera... Normal ? ? ?
steve16 said:
whats the freeze. I haven't heard this before ?
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Well. When you have rooted your phone, you are able to do a lot of usefull stuff:
-Freeze processes
-Disable the camera shutter sound with a simple property/text file
-Make the middle home screen the real home (like htc sense) with a simple property/text file,
-Replace camera.apk and get higher quality sound in video, actually also higher video bitrate if you want that.
-Replace talk.apk and enable the upcoming google talk with video chat
-Install chainfire3d driver to be able to play tegra2 gpu based games
...and probably a lot more, but above is the only things I've done.
Freezing means : that you lock a process you don't want to run ever. You are also able to "un-freeze" if you decide to revert.
So:
1. you root your phone
2. you install titanium backup or other application that has the "freezing" ability.
3. open the freezing app, go to the process list, find "wifi sharing", press freeze, reboot
Problem solved, "wifi-sharing" will never run again.
You want to revert: Launch titanium, go to process list, find wifi sharing, unfreeze, reboot. Everything back to where you were before.
Yarymo said:
I'm also have a similar problem, but mine was after one hour and an half of web surfing using dolphin HD and wifi... it was full, it's now about 25% remaining... Is it normal that the dolphin browser used 39% of the battery ? It's even more than the display... !
Ps: it's actually really hot on the back of the phone, on the top, just under camera... Normal ? ? ?
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I really don't think anything matters as I can see you have the wifi-sharing bug.
You must understand, that it's everybody with the current firmware that has this bug. You must either wait or root and freeze.
Sucking up your battery in a couple of hours and making the cpu run at full speed which makes the phone get hot is exactly what this wifi-sharing bug does.
There is absolutely no way you can change anything in the settings or say, not run dolphin browser to fix this problem. You simply have to freeze the process or wait for samsung to fix it. As long as the wifi-sharing process enters your battery usage list you have the firmware that has the problem (and it's more than one) and your doomed until you freeze or upgrade to a future firmware where the bug may be officially fixed.
Just another "wifi-sharing" discussion link:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16721
Alright then, it's just that it doesn't seem me to be that much of the battery (~20%...)
I did just freeze that process and will see once my phone is fully charged... Thanks.
Try the lite'ning rom. It is much better!
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isnt this pretty normal looking battery drain? most people on this forum are getting about 4 hours screen-on time, sometimes 4.5 hours. yours seems to have the screen on about 4 hours from your graph picture. isnt this normal? if it was all gaming usage it definitely would be normal...
@OP, You mind to mention the Screen On time please?
Regards.
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sia1996 said:
Try the lite'ning rom. It is much better!
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oh, was that a constructive comment?
I have tried everything. I tried various ROM's, SpeedMod kernels T27, T29, T32, and T39, and the stock ROM, and NOTHING is working! I cleared out my Dalvik and cache partitions obviously, and I caliberated the battery. Nothing is working!
I used the phone for 8 hours today, and the battery dropped to 50% in those 8 hours. I had the display on for 1 hour and 30 minutes, browsing Tapatalk and the internet. I made no phone calls at all. Besides that I listened to music for 45 minutes, but that's it. The rest of the time it was on standby in my pocket. This is running Lite'ning ROM v6.1 and Speedmod Kernal T39. However, no matter what combination of kernels and roms I try, the drain is pretty similar.
I have the stock android weather and news app set to update every 3 hours, and K9 Mail to fetch new mail every 15 minutes.
This is with Wi-Fi off, GPS off, and bluetooth off.
What could be affecting my battery so much? Is there any information I should post here from my phone so you guys could see what is causing this? I can't even use my phone for one day without the battery completely draining.
Well, you problaby already knew this, but the real life-sucker in the SGS II is definately it's screen. Get the brightness down low and make the screen timeout after 15 seconds so that you don't waste any unecessarily battery.
Can't help to much otherwise, just got my SGS II a week ago, still getting to know it myself. But hope that helps abit anyway.
There may be other apps synching in background. In my case fluent news trend to hang around. Check if every app is doing background work.
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I can assure you mine is worse, drops to 50% in 6-7 hours, but as the other person has stated, the screen is the culprit, when I used the phone longer than you, I would expect worse battery life.
Gosh how I wish this phone was equipped with more energy-efficient, less bling bling screen. SAMOLED+ is only good for show-off, which I usually don't do.
Theres an app called betterbatterystats on the xda forum. Use that and see whats draining your battery, especially in the wakeloks department.
Updated Facebook? It's raping batteries so hard it should be on the 6 o'clock news tomorrow night. Or, you know, pretty much anything these guys say here.
Try to use Betterbatterystats and see partial wakelocks and cpu spy to see if you have any problem with deep sleep! Also take a look to battery usage and the percentage of Operating System Android
Alexpiri said:
Try to use Betterbatterystats and see partial wakelocks and cpu spy to see if you have any problem with deep sleep! Also take a look to battery usage and the percentage of Operating System Android
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I'll post pics of both things here. Where does android save screen captures so I can upload them?
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NaawB said:
Well, you problaby already knew this, but the real life-sucker in the SGS II is definately it's screen. Get the brightness down low
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i definitely agree with this. i unticked the auto adjust brightness, and i set the screen brightness to the lowest value at all times (it's super amoled anyway, the screen is still visible even at the lowest settings).
alias3800 said:
Updated Facebook? It's raping batteries so hard it should be on the 6 o'clock news tomorrow night. Or, you know, pretty much anything these guys say here.
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Make sure you sign out of facebook chat. I had a funny feeling that the chat was keeping my phone awake. Turned the chat off and I have had excellent battery life since.
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First of all I think you are wrong when you say OLED uses more power than LCD. Remember how these screens work, LCD lets light go through and is completely back-lit all the time while OLED screens emit light from pixels that are not black.
On the other hand, the real problem with SGS2, in my opinion, is the reason phone never goes to sleep. If you take a look at screenshot I attached you'll see that screen on my phone was not on all the time but battery drain continued. Also, "awake" bar is full meaning phone never got the chance to go to sleep.
I have no clue how to fix this, maybe someone with more experience can help. I use to have HTC Hero on which I could turn off "Always on" in network settings and get phone to sleep often and save battery that way.
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Make sure you sign out of facebook chat. I had a funny feeling that the chat was keeping my phone awake. Turned the chat off and I have had excellent battery life since.
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How do I sign out of it?
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Open up the facebook app, press on 'News' at the top left of the screen (to go to the facebook app main menu), press Chat.
At the chat screen, press the menu button on your phone, and select log out.
If you ever accidentally go into chat again it will log you back in. Just remember to always log out again. Do not use the back/cancel to get out of the chat screen.
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Log out from..latitude...facebook..skype...
Data off.....
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MeanEYE said:
First of all I think you are wrong when you say OLED uses more power than LCD. Remember how these screens work, LCD lets light go through and is completely back-lit all the time while OLED screens emit light from pixels that are not black.
On the other hand, the real problem with SGS2, in my opinion, is the reason phone never goes to sleep. If you take a look at screenshot I attached you'll see that screen on my phone was not on all the time but battery drain continued. Also, "awake" bar is full meaning phone never got the chance to go to sleep.
I have no clue how to fix this, maybe someone with more experience can help. I use to have HTC Hero on which I could turn off "Always on" in network settings and get phone to sleep often and save battery that way.
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Download better battery stat from xda forum. There you can see what keeps your phone awake.
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ComradeNF said:
I have tried everything. I tried various ROM's, SpeedMod kernels T27, T29, T32, and T39, and the stock ROM, and NOTHING is working! I cleared out my Dalvik and cache partitions obviously, and I caliberated the battery. Nothing is working!
I used the phone for 8 hours today, and the battery dropped to 50% in those 8 hours. I had the display on for 1 hour and 30 minutes, browsing Tapatalk and the internet. I made no phone calls at all. Besides that I listened to music for 45 minutes, but that's it. The rest of the time it was on standby in my pocket. This is running Lite'ning ROM v6.1 and Speedmod Kernal T39. However, no matter what combination of kernels and roms I try, the drain is pretty similar.
I have the stock android weather and news app set to update every 3 hours, and K9 Mail to fetch new mail every 15 minutes.
This is with Wi-Fi off, GPS off, and bluetooth off.
What could be affecting my battery so much? Is there any information I should post here from my phone so you guys could see what is causing this? I can't even use my phone for one day without the battery completely draining.
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Display drain about 1% every 4 minutes of browsing, this is in your case 22,5% .
Every 15 min email checking and the automatic update checking from other apps does the rest. There is nothing suspicious with your battery drain.
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Bad apps?
I've had bad battery drain for the last week.
I've rooted, romed, unrooted, changed every setting I could. Nothing has really worked. I'm was losing between 5-10% an hour.
Then I just wiped everything and re-installed the stock 2.3.3 firmware and started re-installing apps an hour at a time.
Battery burn was going good about 1% an hour installing about 5 apps in an hour until I installed TM World Clock.
Within an hour I had a 10% battery decrease and Watchdog saying that Event/0 and Suspend were consuming the 90% of the CPU. I uninstalled...it went back to a 1% and hour battery drain for 3 hours.
Re-installed TW World Clock to see it was a fluke. Within 10 min. the phone dropped 2%. and Watchdog started sending warnings for Event/0 and Suspend again.
There might be certain apps that aren't allowing the Galaxy S2 to go into a deep sleep...explaining why the problem is so random among different owners pending on installed apps.
I ,am on it a lot, between GPS and general usage, ,but this still seems like too fast to drain compared to what others here have said. I had this problem with my Atrix too, maybe i am just destined for bad luck with battery life
Do you use anything like juice defender. This app literly doubled my battery life!
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Dillsnik said:
I ,am on it a lot, between GPS and general usage, ,but this still seems like too fast to drain compared to what others here have said. I had this problem with my Atrix too, maybe i am just destined for bad luck with battery life
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how much screen on time do u get?
Cozzeck said:
Do you use anything like juice defender. This app literly doubled my battery life!
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Apps like that only increase standby battery life. Everything else is very minimal.
And I'm not happy with the battery life either. My phone is plugged in right now and the battery is actually going down as I use it.
Ready for the HTC One X
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This happened to me since i first got the phone it has slowed down and now the phone can last through the day ever since at&t throttled me for this month goes without saying ill take it easy next month. so most likely if your in an lte area thats the problem
Maroon Mushroom said:
Apps like that only increase standby battery life. Everything else is very minimal.
And I'm not happy with the battery life either. My phone is plugged in right now and the battery is actually going down as I use it.
Ready for the HTC One X
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If it's notbthe stock charger you areblikely not using a rapid charger.
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I pull mine off the charger at 7:00 and at 3pm or so it's down to 85%, I'll put it on the charger at work until I leave around 5-6pm (mainly because I'm used to having to do this on my previous phone) and at night if I'm not using it constantly it's around 70-75% when I plug it in at bed time.
I suspect anyone getting that bad of battery life must be using it constantly, ie: Playing games, browsing, trolling facebook, etc.. Even in the "new toy" stage I'm getting great battery life.
FYI I don't have LTE, but do generally have good 4G.
You honestly can't use any phone on GPS without external power and expect that you're not going to discharge quickly. Assuming that you are running a car charger during GPS and just didn't say so, search the i-717 threads, since the topic has been well vetted on what chargers are more effective,etc. There are definite differences.
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The fact that there are people out there that get really good battery life means the problem is you and not the phone. If you refresh facebook every minute of course your battery life will be crappy. apps like juicedefender are just marketing crap. as long as there are no running apps in the background that eat your battery, you do not need any juicedefender or tasker. also setting screen-off behavior to conservative on set cpu helps improve battery life.
When I first got my i717 and was using it on the stock rom I had pretty terrible battery life. I take it off the charger at 5:00am and had decent battery life (around 5 to 7 hours without GPS) but I use my phone a lot for internet/email. I think your battery life is completely normal given your usage.
Most people get about 5hrs screen on time. Total on battery ranges up to about 24hrs, but only if the screen is off at least 19 of them.
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lastdeadmouse said:
Most people get about 5hrs screen on time. Total on battery ranges up to about 24hrs, but only if the screen is off at least 19 of them.
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5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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khaytsus said:
I pull mine off the charger at 7:00 and at 3pm or so it's down to 85%, I'll put it on the charger at work until I leave around 5-6pm (mainly because I'm used to having to do this on my previous phone) and at night if I'm not using it constantly it's around 70-75% when I plug it in at bed time.
I suspect anyone getting that bad of battery life must be using it constantly, ie: Playing games, browsing, trolling facebook, etc.. Even in the "new toy" stage I'm getting great battery life.
FYI I don't have LTE, but do generally have good 4G.
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7-3 is 8 hours
exactly how much screen on time do you have by the time its at 85% ? because i mean, it can go on standy for days with nothing on
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h0tw1r3 said:
5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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i can get about 3 or so
5 hours of screen time AND 19hours standby sounds incredible
would sure like to see screen shot as well
and def dont think 5 hours is any type of avg
I had GPS running on my phone for 4 hours today, had blue tooth on half the time without knowing it, sending text messages, making two 5 min phone calls, checking maps, checking FML and reading a book for about an hour and drained down to about 70% and I have the brightness set at auto. I would exchange it for a new battery.
On average with several texts per hour, several 5-10 min phone calls, taking a few pics and uploading them to picasa, checking facebook, updating status and checking emails I can pull off the charger at 630am and still have 50% battery (at least) by 630pm.
I do have the juicedefender (which isn't crap, it turns off signal after so long so you aren't trolling for signals when you aren't on the phone).
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I had GPS running on my phone for 4 hours today, had blue tooth on half the time without knowing it, sending text messages, making two 5 min phone calls, checking maps, checking FML and reading a book for about an hour and drained down to about 70% and I have the brightness set at auto. I would exchange it for a new battery.
On average with several texts per hour, several 5-10 min phone calls, taking a few pics and uploading them to picasa, checking facebook, updating status and checking emails I can pull off the charger at 630am and still have 50% battery (at least) by 630pm.
I do have the juicedefender (which isn't crap, it turns off signal after so long so you aren't trolling for signals when you aren't on the phone).
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and whats your screen on time for that 12 hour 6am-6pm with 50% still left please?
Just buy a second battery and throw it in at noon. No biggie.
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Just buy a second battery and throw it in at noon. No biggie.
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Was thinking of doing that since they're so cheap but thanks to juice defense I don't really have that issue no more.
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h0tw1r3 said:
5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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I had a ss of my buddies yesterday, but can't restore mms lol. There are plenty of other ss in the note section. He was at 22+ hrs with about 4:30 of screen on and some % remaining. I have to charge around 7-9 everynight at 4-4:30 hrs screen on, but my use is pretty heavy. I sync 4 gmail accounts, a separate GV, 3 calendars, and several apps.
If yours is much worse than that, you likely have a few troublesome apps or are playing games. First, after a full charge, reset cpuspy timers, lock it, and set it down for a few hours (I know, impossible). Then check to see that your CPU has been in deep sleep about 95% of the time. If not, use better battery stats to see what has been request wakelocks. Not only the most total time, but the total number. Any app that looks outrageous, freeze it or uninstall it. For system processes that look troublesome, Google. You can often find simple tricks online that will tell you what's causing them to go crazy. Beyond that, turn off syncing of anything that isn't needed or doesn't matter (like Facebook), and uninstall stuff you never use.
Another slight help is the brightness widget (don't use the actual widget, just put the app on your homescreen, it works the same) or dimmer in market as they can both set the brightness to a value of 10 (Samsung lowest stock is 20), and even if you can't tell the difference, it helps. Jkay settings in saurom can set the auto brightness profile slightly darker than stock. Umm, and the obvious, use less Widgets, longer sync intervals, processor scaling and speed profiles, and buy a couple rapid chargers, wall and auto.
A couple things to note after seeing a few of these posts...
BT can be on, but without it searching, connected, or listening it's not active.
GPS isn't active unless its in use aand you see the icon in the notification bar. That being said, fb, websites, and many other apps that request location will activate it.
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YOU MUST CALIBERATE THE BATTERY!! I have no issues I use my phone heavy all day and get 15 hours and I still have 20% left. All you have to do is
1) Charge you phone until it says "charged"
2)Leave phone plugged in and power off and let it charge until the battery meter literally says "100" (screen will sleep so you can check with volume rocker to light screen)
3) power on phone and let boot and than power off and wait till you see 100% again
4) now keep doin this and you will notice it will start displaying "100%" faster and faster usually takes 6-7 times cycling like this
5) After you do this download Battery Caliberation (root required) app from market and hit the caliberate button and boom your good to go
I do this on every android phone I own when I flash a new rom or purchase a fresh one. Everyone should do this everytime you flash a new rom and I can CONFIRM significant battery longevity on all my android phones I have done this with
You only have to do it once so just get it out the way and you'll get through a whole dayand have some juice to play with.
I get 15+ hours and do not any battery juice defender apps
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Underground_XI said:
The fact that there are people out there that get really good battery life means the problem is you and not the phone. If you refresh facebook every minute of course your battery life will be crappy. apps like juicedefender are just marketing crap. as long as there are no running apps in the background that eat your battery, you do not need any juicedefender or tasker. also setting screen-off behavior to conservative on set cpu helps improve battery life.
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Just to be clear here, Tasker has nothing to do with battery life. It doesn't hurt it, nor "help" it. However, you certainly could write tasks/contexts that would decrease battery life, and there are a few scripts out there which do silly stuff like autokilling, etc... But if we're talking "battery savings", Tasker and JD do not go in the same category.
IMO JD is only useful if you're frequently in an area with no signal, like you work in a basement or deep inside of a solidly constructed building. Since you mentioned Tasker, in this context it does help me a bit on battery because my wifi turns off when I leave the house, but that's also something JD can help with. If you don't have a wifi connection it'll turn off wifi (and I believe turn it back on periodically to see if there's one available?) I don't use JD, so can't speak too much for it.
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7-3 is 8 hours
exactly how much screen on time do you have by the time its at 85% ? because i mean, it can go on standy for days with nothing on
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Hour? Hour and a half? I'm working during that period. I usually hit news sites and G+ when I'm first at my desk in the morning, so that's 30 minutes or so off and on looking at it, then perhaps an hour over the rest of the day, sometimes more at lunch.
I'll look closer today and post back.
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YOU MUST CALIBERATE THE BATTERY!!
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Complete nonsense. https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
I don't know if this is normal but the cell standby odds the mist thing that shows battery usage so is this normal?
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Anyone will help in this ?
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Not quite sure but i think thats happening because you might have left that "Hey galaxy" command on because of which the microphone is always working and therefore the battery gets consumed.
And if thats not the case then idk whats wrong
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I don't know if this is normal but the cell standby odds the mist thing that shows battery usage so is this normal?
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download and install "bad ass battery monitor" from play store and find the culprit
Well in my HOX after 4hours of standby i get only 2% loss or less. Tegra 3 5th companion core helps saving it.
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Well in my HOX after 4hours of standby i get only 2% loss or less. Tegra 3 5th companion core helps saving it.
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Cell standby has nth to do wif CPU..
I am getting the same problem too..
Got this problem too, would love to know what it is.
has anyone checked if one of the system's features is always on and that is why battery is getting low?
Yep having similar problem too, anyone have an idea?
4 hours 2% or less on the HOX, It maybe that yours is faulty. mines doesnt seem to change whatsoever from when I go to bed until the time I wake up over 8 hours or more ,
back to the SGS3 its definitely software related. just wait for an update from samsung
I know the epic had a similar issue. Check the time without signal and see if that shows a high percentage. If so, try cycling the airplane mode on and off and see if that helps. It was a work a round for the epic.
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i would say this cell standby drainage issue is down to either one of these being on:
S beam
Smart Stay
or you have left the voice command on.. the "hey galaxy" rubbish.
i would say the latter two would kill your battery fairly quickly as you are always having the FF camera on / the mic alwasy on.
Normally what's the average off the battery if I'm using the device normally for calls and having wifi link all the time?
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cell standby is the battery used by the radio mine is @ 38% top of my list two.
54% battery left, thats 17h 40m 20s lol on battery.there is nothink to worrie about mate!
Maybe cause I switched from iphone I used to have my mobile for two days and a half when I lower my screen brightness
But here it stays max for one and half day
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The Cell Standby is an idle process that must run: your CPU is always working, it can't ever turn off or it wouldn't recognise wake-ups, emails etc, so when it's not actually actively doing anything it has to run a low-priority process to keep it doing something.
The only way it can ever do literally nothing is when it's turned off.
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The Cell Standby is an idle process that must run: your CPU is always working, it can't ever turn off or it wouldn't recognise wake-ups, emails etc, so when it's not actually actively doing anything it has to run a low-priority process to keep it doing something.
The only way it can ever do literally nothing is when it's turned off.
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The point is that it's using too much power, or at least it's being reported of using too much power. And nobody has been capable of showing details until now and I don't have my phone yet. It should not use more power than the S2 since they have almost identical broadband chips.
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cell standby is the battery used by the radio mine is @ 38% top of my list two.
54% battery left, thats 17h 40m 20s lol on battery.there is nothink to worrie about mate!
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My standby is high as well but i get really good battery time though. Still only a couple of recharhes and a fair bit of use as i have had to hard reset as well.
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You are aware of the fact that the percentages must sum up to 100% don't you?
If you want to see what really happens when you phone is asleep you may wan to try BetterBatteryStats
Am envious to those who managed to use their phone for more than a day. I bought this phone for about 2 weeks now and have done the normal full charge for 8 hours on the first time. Since then, I have fully charged twice and let the battery gone flat once. I have flashed Neutrino rom and currently Latveyit rom, and the battery last best 12 hours so far.
I charged the phone to 94% at about 7pm and just made two calls and two text messages. I did a navigation on maps for about 15mins max. By about 11pm, battery is at 57%, I play some games for about 10mins and went to bed, in the morning it's about 35%. I realise that the first 50% really goes fast and after that it's pretty decent until less than 20% and it drains fast again. Background application I have are the normal chat programs, whatsapp, viber, kakaotalk, skype and ebuddy. I have waze running in the background although I think it shuts off after 15mins. I have a mix of wifi and 3g usage, usually on wifi though. Is this normal?
edit: I also have Lookout antivirus running
All your chat programs running in the back ground prevent your device to sleep correctly, they wake it up every time they check if there is a new message.
Try to keep only the apps you use and try for each app to increase the check delay or disable it.
The antivirus does help.
2 weeks is a bit early to make a comment about the battery.
Download Battericalibration from the market and use it every shift rom change.
Read about topic on the forum but not become a maniac in "battery life".
If the screen stays lit for 5-7 hours the battery will be empty in like 7-8 hours. If you only speak 1 hour at it the battery will be empty in 3 days.
All depends on how you use it!
Sorry for bad english.
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clod007 said:
2 weeks is a bit early to make a comment about the battery.
Download Battericalibration from the market and use it every shift rom change.
Read about topic on the forum but not become a maniac in "battery life".
If the screen stays lit for 5-7 hours the battery will be empty in like 7-8 hours. If you only speak 1 hour at it the battery will be empty in 3 days.
All depends on how you use it!
Sorry for bad english.
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I thought that the chat programs will only cause problems if there are frequent messages since they're base on push?
2 weeks is early? How does that affect the battery's performance? I thought when it's new, it's most optimum and slowly degrades through time? The screen was off most of the time unless I was doing anything I mentioned or just checking the time which is just on, check then off. I don't think I am paranoid over the battery life, just curious how to get it over a day.
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I thought that the chat programs will only cause problems if there are frequent messages since they're base on push?
2 weeks is early? How does that affect the battery's performance? I thought when it's new, it's most optimum and slowly degrades through time? The screen was off most of the time unless I was doing anything I mentioned or just checking the time which is just on, check then off. I don't think I am paranoid over the battery life, just curious how to get it over a day.
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In my opinion the battery reaches her max in 3-4 weeks.
Download the app from the market and use it after every rom change.
I didn't called you paranoic, just that you mustn't be so worried.
My recomandation for a longer battery life is CM7.
GOOD DAY!
Read forum for more details.
Sorry for my english!
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You might try 1Ghz faux kernels as well. They seemed to have helped my battery life considerably.
Chek out what apps you have running in the background and be sure you set youre network yourself (my phone was always changing from 2g to 3g and after i selected the network myself it gave me a 1day + boost .
And you shoud know that the litium polimer batteryes are affected by cold temperatures.
I wish you luck!
I did use cm7 (neutrino) and got about the same battery life span as the current rom (laytveyit), and am currently on the faux 1ghz kernel. Anyway, I will see how it performance in the weeks to come and hopefully the newer version of the rom will improve it. I thought cold temperature helps preserve the battery's life span?
EDIT: Thanks for all the advice!
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Am envious to those who managed to use their phone for more than a day. I bought this phone for about 2 weeks now and have done the normal full charge for 8 hours on the first time. Since then, I have fully charged twice and let the battery gone flat once. I have flashed Neutrino rom and currently Latveyit rom, and the battery last best 12 hours so far.
I charged the phone to 94% at about 7pm and just made two calls and two text messages. I did a navigation on maps for about 15mins max. By about 11pm, battery is at 57%, I play some games for about 10mins and went to bed, in the morning it's about 35%. I realise that the first 50% really goes fast and after that it's pretty decent until less than 20% and it drains fast again. Background application I have are the normal chat programs, whatsapp, viber, kakaotalk, skype and ebuddy. I have waze running in the background although I think it shuts off after 15mins. I have a mix of wifi and 3g usage, usually on wifi though. Is this normal?
edit: I also have Lookout antivirus running
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Lol all those chats are you problem imo
The "standard" apps used to figure out what's eating your batteries are:
BetterBatteryStats: for wakelocks
CpuSpy: to tell if you phone is going into deep sleep or not
Built in Battery Usage: to see a pretty graph and tell what's using the most juice
SystemTuner: I just recently started playing with this, lots of information.
Look up BetterBatteryStats here up XDA. There's plenty of threads on how to use it. Look up wakelocks.