[Q] General Camera Question - Huawei Ascend Mate 2

My wife's old iphone 4 seems to take way better low light pics and video (HAM2 camera is jittery when taking low-light video, not smooth at all) Are there any camera tweaks to be done? any settings to change? Thanks!

The B148 update supposedly helped a bit, but I haven't tested it yet. But if you've already updated, I'm afraid there's not much else to do.
Phones like ours are cheap for a reason, meaning they have to be "bad" somewhere. Cameras are never good on Androids of this price range.

ScoobSTi said:
The B148 update supposedly helped a bit, but I haven't tested it yet. But if you've already updated, I'm afraid there's not much else to do.
Phones like ours are cheap for a reason, meaning they have to be "bad" somewhere. Cameras are never good on Androids of this price range.
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That's cool, I understand. I guess the majority of pics & videos happen outside in the light anyway. Thanks. p.s. I figured out how to silence the camera and video camera sounds using ES file manager, so that's good.

GT1873 said:
That's cool, I understand. I guess the majority of pics & videos happen outside in the light anyway. Thanks. p.s. I figured out how to silence the camera and video camera sounds using ES file manager, so that's good.
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Ooh cool, mind sharing?

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Ooh cool, mind sharing?
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Sure. I followed this link and scrolled to the bottom where it talks about rooted devices. You're basically just adding a small addendum to the camera sound file names in the system. Works for me, but who knows what the long-term effects will be. Do this at your own risk, I take no responsibility for your actions. Do not do this if it is illegal in your country, check your laws.

Some third-party camera apps will give you additional options, like higher ISO, that are not available in the stock Huawei camera. lgCamera has been mentioned in another thread here. I'm partial to OpenCamera. Paid options like A Better Camera provide additional modes. But even with all these options, I think the limiting factor for low-light photography with the HAM2 is focus. It becomes very uncertain in anything less than bright light.

Sweet, it works! You should make a thread for it, I reckon.

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Sweet, it works! You should make a thread for it, I reckon.
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Will do.

I work sports leagues and tournaments and get a lot of teams asking me to take their picture. Sadly, it seems that ANY iPhone takes better pictures than anything I've dragged out there. In order of my use- Optimus V, Samsung S2, Note 2, and a Nokia 520; also a few small tablets, usually wrapped up on the beach so no pictures there.

Once I realized that the HAM2's camera software doesn't allow flash when in HDR mode, I began looking at other camera software on Google Play. I recently bought Open Camera. It has so many more options, including flash when in HDR mode and a night mode. Here are photos taken on a walk today taken in HDR mode with the phone software and Open Camera.
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I'll get some photos in night mode over the weekend and post them.

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Can anyone give me some tips on taking good pictures with the camera on the phone?
Unless I'm in natural daylight, the pictures I take are almost always blurry or glossy looking.
I've enabled the anti-shake option and this seems to have helped some, however, it is still pretty bad. I've seen examples of pictures taken with this camera that look amazing, but I can never reproduce this.
Please help.
Do you manually focus, like tap-to-focus? You should try to and see if it helps. Maybe if the photos are blurry, either clean the camera lens if its dirty (you may want to check!) and go to setting in the camera app (stock or whatever the one you use) and make sure the focus mode is auto focus (or in some other apps Manual focus) and then try again. You really can take unbelievable photos with the phone. Me being a photographer for the past 6 years, it truly is awesome.
Here are some of mine I took all through the stock camera app untouched.
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P.S. I didn't take time to frame these shots. They were all point and shoot so anyone can take a photo like them
Who the eff drinks pineapple fanta? Nice picks though.
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evodon84 said:
Who the eff drinks pineapple fanta? Nice picks though.
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Thank you! And Pineapple Fanta actually isn't that bad!
ChuckaDucky said:
Do you manually focus, like tap-to-focus? You should try to and see if it helps. Maybe if the photos are blurry, either clean the camera lens if its dirty (you may want to check!) and go to setting in the camera app (stock or whatever the one you use) and make sure the focus mode is auto focus (or in some other apps Manual focus) and then try again. You really can take unbelievable photos with the phone. Me being a photographer for the past 6 years, it truly is awesome.
Here are some of mine I took all through the stock camera app untouched.
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P.S. I didn't take time to frame these shots. They were all point and shoot so anyone can take a photo like them
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What settings were you using on the camera app to take the one of the fanta?
I've been doing some experimenting and I'm finding out that unless I'm outside, with lots of natural light, I need to use the flash, anti-shake, and often set ISO to 100.
Oops, I should have said reduce the exposure to -2.0 or ISO to 200 or 100.
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What settings were you using on the camera app to take the one of the fanta?
I've been doing some experimenting and I'm finding out that unless I'm outside, with lots of natural light, I need to use the flash, anti-shake, and often set ISO to 100.
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I set the exposure to -1.0, everything else auto so I'm not quite sure.
I started a thread on this topic a while back, but things move pretty quick here you might not of seen it. Some good information there about taking pics
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1291091
It's really all about your lighting and the iso. I also have my metering set to matrix. try experimenting to see what works best for you.

Two HTC Ones.......one has a terrible camera and boom sound?

Hi everyone
I have 2 HTC ones right now
I've heard about how great the low light performance and the audio quality is supposed to be on this phone and with my first one I wasn't impressed so I figured it was just over hyped
got a second one in the mail and this one is VASTLY superior in both regards
The first one has a ton of grain in low light shots
and fairly low volume speakers
the 2nd is significantly better for camera and much louder speakers
do you think this is something HTC would view as a defect even though both work technically?
is there anything at all I can do to remedy either?
I can't really demonstrate the sound but here's a picture taken with each camera
I set it to iso 1600 for both
no other adjustments
it seems like it's letting in way too much light but I lowering the exposure doesn't help
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I would easily be able to say I'm just going to sell the one that doesn't work as well.............but here's the kicker. It seems to get better battery life and it runs smoother with no hiccups despite it always benching slightly less
I don't know if it matters but both are stock running 4.3. One from Rogers(bad camera/sound) One from Telus(good camera/sound but slightly worse performance)
Yea I totally agree..HTC needs to improve their quality control...HTC promised the problem was software related yet when I updated my dads HTC one, to 4.3, it still has the problem..definitely a bad sensor..and since its impossible to open the phone, its also impossible to swap out the camera module..I'm gonna try to talk with HTC again or will be forced to sell..
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Yea I totally agree..HTC needs to improve their quality control...HTC promised the problem was software related yet when I updated my dads HTC one, to 4.3, it still has the problem..definitely a bad sensor..and since its impossible to open the phone, its also impossible to swap out the camera module..I'm gonna try to talk with HTC again or will be forced to sell..
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so is this a fairly common issue then?
very common issue. what are the first 4 digits of each serial number?
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so is this a fairly common issue then?
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I bought an HTC One for my wife and I (64gb variants, both second hand from different sources), and both cameras on them are very, VERY blurry. On my wife's phone, you can slap the back of the phone, and the camera will suddenly focus for a few minutes, then go back to being totally blurry. On my phone, its ALWAYS blurry, no matter what. This has been a point of contention for many folks on the web (Google it!), and no matter how much you clean the lens, use touch-to-focus, or different apps, it all comes out to the same thing.
Further, I get the blue "graininess" exhibited by the previous poster in my low-light conditions. HTC needs to step up to the plate, and fix this problem on their "flagship" phone!
And for Bob: The first digits in my device's serial number are: HT349w9
dang. i saw a guy with a serial number ht34 and his camera was perfect. was hoping it was a batch thing, but i guess not.
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very common issue. what are the first 4 digits of each serial number?
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well I sold the good one today so I can't check it
but the not good one is HT36

Get better pictures/videos on AOSP! (Not another lg camera port)

[[If you don't feel like listening to my shenanigans, just scroll down to the dashed line!]]
I love the look of AOSP. Unfortunately, LG does not release camera drivers so camera quality on AOSP is generally pretty terrible. Recently, I decided to forego my typical stock g3 port and try out CyanogenMod 12, and its actually really really good and stable (on vs980 anyways). The only problem was the horrendous camera quality. Lollipop was so good (especially with xposed support starting up) that I decoded I'd try to find a fix for my problem. First off, I noticed that Lollipop had a *bit better camera quality than kitkat AOSP. This was promising but nothing good. My og droid razer still took pictures just as good. I tried the typical apps... Cm11s camera (it had bugs...) AOSP camera was terrible, Google camera was a little better than AOSP but not much. Lenovo super camera.. Still not 100% stable. I didn't use those stock camera ports as none of them are stable and those aren't what this thread is about.
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I tried some play store offerings and almost gave up... But then I found something in the play store. "Open camera". Its free, open source, ad free, and somehow... It takes really good pictures and videos on AOSP on our phones.
When you open it you're greeted with a not-so-beautiful ui, but it has a lot of great features. HDR works also.. Which is nice. Actually, everything works.
The main gripe with the AOSP camera quality was low light performance. In open camera there's a ISO setting. Set the ISO to 1600 and you'll get great low light photos with little noise. You can of course use auto or higher ISO but noise will be a problem. But it is a problem on stock too at those ISO levels. Another thing I'd like to point out is that video recording is surprisingly good. No 4k yet unless your ROM supports it. The app itself supports it. Hopefully this can help someone who needs better pictures/videos on AOSP! ?
Note: I included a test shot. Keep in mind the room was illuminated by one nightstand light. It looks brighter in the picture than it does to the eyes. Even though there's noise in the picture, its multitudes better than other options
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Here's a Google camera shot for comparison. I drew a red "G" on the Google camera shot because I'm uploading this with tapatalk and I'm not sure if it will show the pics in order or not:
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Very nice post, already knew open camera since it's included in my rom, and yes it takes the better pics!
But I have to say that even thought this app goes deeply into settings, they could make some improvements to the UI...
Yes been using it for awhile
This UI is awful! Photos seem to be great though.
I've been using the Lenovo camera and it's been amazing. Ridiculously quick HDR shots.

What on earth is going on with V30's image processing? Why can't it photograph trees?

Here is a gallery of what I'm talking about: https://imgur.com/a/dYAGmZh
Whenever leaves or foliage are in the shot the camera seems to freak out and paint everything over in this impressionistic style. These images are not zoomed in, it's just what the full size image looks like. I've never seen any other SP camera do anything like this. Even my 2013 Nexus 5 is perfectly able to show leaves. Almost any camera of the last 100 years is able to picture leaves. Can this "effect" be helped by turning down the sharpness settings?
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Here is a gallery of what I'm talking about: https://imgur.com/a/dYAGmZh
Whenever leaves or foliage are in the shot the camera seems to freak out and paint everything over in this impressionistic style. These images are not zoomed in, it's just what the full size image looks like. I've never seen any other SP camera do anything like this. Even my 2013 Nexus 5 is perfectly able to show leaves. Almost any camera of the last 100 years is able to picture leaves. Can this "effect" be helped by turning down the sharpness settings?
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You sure you dont have portrait mode enabled?
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Here is a gallery of what I'm talking about: https://imgur.com/a/dYAGmZh
Whenever leaves or foliage are in the shot the camera seems to freak out and paint everything over in this impressionistic style. These images are not zoomed in, it's just what the full size image looks like. I've never seen any other SP camera do anything like this. Even my 2013 Nexus 5 is perfectly able to show leaves. Almost any camera of the last 100 years is able to picture leaves. Can this "effect" be helped by turning down the sharpness settings?
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Is this stock camera or GCam port?
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You sure you dont have portrait mode enabled?
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They're photos from reviews, i don't have the phone i was looking into getting it and saw all these samples doing the same thing.
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Is this stock camera or GCam port?
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They are all stock. Does your v30 image leaves like this?
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They are all stock. Does your v30 image leaves like this?
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No. And your can see actual V30 pics taken by users in this forum.
I thought you were asking why something was wrong with your own phone.
No... he is right, this is a 100% crop and will always look like this.
Solution, shoot in manual mode + save as RAW, use photoshop express to denoise and sharpening after that (all on your phone).
Result: stunning.
BTW: Samsung's postprocessing is nearly as bad as LGs. RAW is the only solution
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No... he is right, this is a 100% crop and will always look like this.
Solution, shoot in manual mode + save as RAW, use photoshop express to denoise and sharpening after that (all on your phone).
Result: stunning.
BTW: Samsung's postprocessing is nearly as bad as LGs. RAW is the only solution
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Hmmm...i can't seem to sign in to any of the photoshop apps...
koboltzz said:
No... he is right, this is a 100% crop and will always look like this.
Solution, shoot in manual mode + save as RAW, use photoshop express to denoise and sharpening after that (all on your phone).
Result: stunning.
BTW: Samsung's postprocessing is nearly as bad as LGs. RAW is the only solution
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It seems like some people say it happens while others on the thread say it doesn't? Seems clear to me, the images I took were from different reviews etc. Is it possible some are avoiding this issue?
Thanks for your tip, but is that practical in everyday use?
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It seems like some people say it happens while others on the thread say it doesn't? Seems clear to me, the images I took were from different reviews etc. Is it possible some are avoiding this issue?
Thanks for your tip, but is that practical in everyday use?
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Well, since every big smartphone manufacturer is doing nearly the same terrible post processing (except google) it's not really an issue,.... it's metaphysical certainty this will never change.
Yes it is when you do the following: Shoot always RAW (means manual mode), set focus point to the center only (since this is what you are aiming at for taking the pic, the object in the middle, 95 of 100 times), use the jpeg which will also be saved next to RAW for whatsapp&co and not important photos, use RAW+photoshop express for holiday and other important pics.

Question PROSHOT 8.16 vs STOCK CAMERA

I've got some time ago this app for free and never really used and now I wanted to give a try with a JPG comparison and for my surprise it is way better than stock, in the attachment the samples.
This is the link for the app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riseupgames.proshot2
For the Proshot picture I shot in: JPG, P, ISO 50, no noise reduction, Detail turned off, IMG+ turned off, Topaz Denoise and Sharpen.
Proshot seems to be way better than stock, its a pitty it does not support 50mpx yet.
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Wow.. look way sharper... Do you have any other comparison like outdoor? ppl?
There are many version of gcam available and not really complicated to install.
Is this better?
Hmmm, the stock image looks either out of focus or soft by motion blur... would it be possible to show other samples, also from other scenarios ? That would be great
Does Proshot support all lenses on the S23U ?
Both pictures where shoot in the same condition, I will try to do other test but the test shows detail and color rendition
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Both pictures where shoot in the same condition, I will try to do other test but the test shows detail and color rendition
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The problem is that this is a painting so we have to point of reference in our mind as to how exactly it looks in real life. If you go out and take a picture of like trees and buildings, it's easier for us to compare. Though I agree that proshot does look sharp and nice! Just hard to tell if it's not too sharp compared to real life?
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The problem is that this is a painting so we have to point of reference in our mind as to how exactly it looks in real life. If you go out and take a picture of like trees and buildings, it's easier for us to compare. Though I agree that proshot does look sharp and nice! Just hard to tell if it's not too sharp compared to real life?
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I will do more testing because in some test I did today seems that even if I disable in camera sharpening, the app applies sharpening. Other thing I found is noise pattern this camera creates that is more difficult to Topaz to remove (somethin that not happen with Canon for example) but I will arrive to a bette conclusion when I do more test.
What about ProShop post-processing? Will be great some examples of outdoors pictures vs stock cam...
As long as the RAW issue with ProShot on the S23U is not fixed this app is virtually unusable with this device.
When shooting RAW you always the the image from the 1x module even when using 0.5x, 3x or 10x.
At least the guys at Rise Up Games are aware and looking for a way to fix the issue.
Also video stabilization is not present or working on the S23U in combination with ProShot.

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