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So I got my x10 like 3 weeks ago, and I usually leave it to charge overnight, but the last 2 nights It had sufficient charge left so I kept it besides my bed, the first time it happened I didn't get up on time and was late for work cause my alarm couldn't go off cause my battery was dead! I remember clearly when I went to bed at 12:30 it was at 55 or so percent, and when I woke at 9 it was dead. (My alarm was set at 7:30 so it was dead before that). This was quite surprising to me as otherwise it runs fine throughout the day. The next day i kept it at 80% charge at 1 am and when I woke up at 7:30 it was at 66.so it did drain a lot but not as much. I had installed juiceplotter and according to that, there was some network usage around 2:30 to 3:15 or so (i'm guessing the yellow line indicates data usage?) and one thing I noticed was from 4:30 to 7:30 the SCREEN WAS ON! (Acc to the blue line). So I'm wondering what could be the cause of this rude awakening . I looked into the partial wake status and it showed facebook as the highest since boot. Could it be that? I'm using the latest facebook app. Also is there any app that can monitor the systems activity? Say what started when, for how long, how much cpu, screen on etc so I could determine that if it happens again.
I read about others having this problem. I'm sure what the conclusion to that thread was but for me my screen only comes on when I have a scheduled back up with backup and restore. It comes on and stays on until the back up is complete, unless of course I turn it off manually. I think this is also the case for Titanium Backup but don't quote me on that.
Well it could not be the backup app doing it because I don't have any backups scheduled... I dont have titanium backup installed too...
I have the same problem. Not so much a problem though as I charge the phone @ night anyway. What causes it however, I don't know. I don't have scheduled backups running. Come to think of it.. I only had this problem when I had a live wallpaper set (I think). Since a few days I'm running froyo 2.2 rom/static wallpaper and didn't have this problem so far. So perhaps it's (live)wallpaper related (which I seriously doubt), or ROM related. I was running Nordic ROM 2.1 before.
I've also noticed this. No apps running and randomly the screen comes on. Sorry I can't be of any help but it's not just you...
Well I do have a feeling that it could be the facebook app doing it, can't be certain though. I'm judging by the partial wake usage stats, well It could also be 'Android system' but I don't know what would be waking the phone up from sleep like this and leaving the screen on for hours!
Like I asked earlier, is there any app that can monitor all activity on android?Like apps starting at what time and ending etc, so I could use his in conjunction with juiceplotter to narrow down the culprit?
wow guys, not sure what this is. but i did a google search and heres what turned up.
http://androidforums.com/incredible-support-troubleshooting/141868-screen-randomly-turns.html
http://forum.androidcentral.com/motorola-droid-x/49298-screen-randomly-turns.html ; this ones interesting to say the least
x10 specific:
http://androidforums.com/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10/240479-screen-wont-time-out-comes-randomly.html
And I think this program might help you:
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-eolwral-osmonitor-xxxt.aspx
Mentioning what Android (1.6, 2.1) version you have and what model of x10(i,a) might help as well.
Hope that helps. Can anyone with this problem confirm if its just stock or also rooted and flashed devices?
i got no idea when it comes screen randomly turns on. but the facebook app might be the cause (im still guessing). because data traffic consume alot of your battery, considering retreive and send data too much. i have my data traffic turned off in case i want to go bed, and take it easy just turn on when you need to use internet
kindred7 said:
Mentioning what Android (1.6, 2.1) version you have and what model of x10(i,a) might help as well.
Hope that helps. Can anyone with this problem confirm if its just stock or also rooted and flashed devices?
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Well went through those threads earlier, but they didn't seem very helpful.
I'm on android 2.1 btw on an x10i. Well I can safely say that it didn't happen last night so I'll check again tonight to see if it does, if not then its just a random occurrence
Hi all!
One thing drives me nuts about my wife tab - it turns screen on in the middle of the night, I guess when battery is completely charge.
Is there any way to disable or completely remove this behavior?
I use AutomateId to disable sounds, but there is nothing to turn off screen completely.
I checked few custom roms and do not see one fixing this problem. So, any suggestions will be appreciated!
Keep the tab switched off while charging
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Keep the tab switched off while charging
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Uh, yeah. That'dprobably do it. ;-)
On a somewhat related note... Is there a danger of overcharging? It always says, "Device fully charged. Please unplug charger." Is it unreasonable to expect smart charge capability?
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That is an option, unless you need it on for something else, like an alarm in the morning ;-)
However, sumsung phones developers let say, were able to work around in custom roms, so I was in hope, that may be I missed something...
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Uh, yeah. That'dprobably do it. ;-)
On a somewhat related note... Is there a danger of overcharging? It always says, "Device fully charged. Please unplug charger." Is it unreasonable to expect smart charge capability?
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the message to unplug is purely an energy saving measure. It doesn't mean unplug from the tab, it means unplug from the wall to prevent "vampire power drain".
I agree about it being sodding annoying, though; the point of charging overnight is that it's fully charged come morning not fully charged at, say, 1am and partially drained by morning! /rant
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the message to unplug is purely an energy saving measure. It doesn't mean unplug from the tab, it means unplug from the wall to prevent "vampire power drain".
I agree about it being sodding annoying, though; the point of charging overnight is that it's fully charged come morning not fully charged at, say, 1am and partially drained by morning! /rant
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Ah, well... Aside from being somewhat econazi-ish, that makes sense. The "wake-up-on-full-charge" thing doesn't really annoy me too much because it's in the case almost all the time. Closed cover = no problems.
CNemo7539 said:
Hi all!
One thing drives me nuts about my wife tab - it turns screen on in the middle of the night, I guess when battery is completely charge.
Is there any way to disable or completely remove this behavior?
I use AutomateId to disable sounds, but there is nothing to turn off screen completely.
I checked few custom roms and do not see one fixing this problem. So, any suggestions will be appreciated!
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Wow! I thought I was the only one. This drives me nuts! I just thought it was one of those random custom ROM bugs. I'd love a fix because then I could just set my setCPU profile to clock down when the screen is off, but since it comes on, I have to make more complicated settings (or else it overheats inside the case!).
I think I figured it out by a chance...
There setting "Never turn screen off when charging" or something like this. I do not have tab in front of me.
Removed that check and didn't see screen on this night.
If it help to anybody else please post here to confirm.
CNemo7539 said:
I think I figured it out by a chance...
There setting "Never turn screen off when charging" or something like this. I do not have tab in front of me.
Removed that check and didn't see screen on this night.
If it help to anybody else please post here to confirm.
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If you figure out where the setting is will you update this thread? Also, update the OP to make it useful to others (including me!)
settings>applications>developments>stay awake, unmark the box, I hope your problem will end. I unmarked it as soon as I got my P7500 while checking settings and never experience this.
I have this option unchecked as well. I can confirm that the tablet turns on when it is completely charged and then goes back to sleep after a short while again.
Regards
Achim
Yeap, it does that. But like you said it shut the display in a short while, if it the option unchecked.
It's usually disabled in custom roms but if you have the skills and time try to make it yourself, although it's annoying that at 4am you hear the tablet buzzin' you that it's fully charged...
I had the same screen switching on over night problem with stock 3.1 ROM.
The tab switched on automatically, and never switched off.
It happened while it was charged and while was not charged, or after rebooted.
I work in front of the tab, and it switched on more and more often.
Once I set the screen off time to another, shorter value, it solved the problem for that afternoon, but in the morning the screen was on again.
Finally I removed 50 rarely used apps, and the problem is almost fixed. It happened only once since then. I think I permitted some app to administer the device in the menu, and those caused this.
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I had the same screen switching on over night problem with stock 3.1 ROM.
The tab switched on automatically, and never switched off.
It happened while it was charged and while was not charged, or after rebooted.
I work in front of the tab, and it switched on more and more often.
Once I set the screen off time to another, shorter value, it solved the problem for that afternoon, but in the morning the screen was on again.
Finally I removed 50 rarely used apps, and the problem is almost fixed. It happened only once since then. I think I permitted some app to administer the device in the menu, and those caused this.
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I think my screen problem is also related to the multimedia dock. When the tab is in the dock and the dock is NOT connected to the charger, then few times it switches on the screen after some time.
I put my tab into silent mode and close the cover.
No noise no light.
Alarm still makes noise even in silent.
But there really should be an option to turn this off.
I make it short:
Yeah another wifi/ battery thread. But the only one with an actual solution for pi poor battery life after 21 update. Some people reported it helped also with the sod.
Wifi sucks battery dead.
Some people let all sorts of juice sucking bat-control apps running to find out that stock app reading is not lying: The bloody wifi never turns off even set to do so in the settings and just kills the battery of the device.
If this is your workaround you owe me a thanks . If you are an Asus employee testing poor battery issue give me credits in the fixing OTA by repairing the 'never' settings:
Go to
settings, w-lan,advanced (click on the three dots in the upper right corner, there it is), keep_wifi_on_during_sleep:
Instead of setting it to 'never', set it to 'only when plugged in'.
Now put your machine in sleep, wake it after 30min or even much less and BOOOOOOM! here we go:
You will see in the battery settings, that your wifi just has stopped pausing. Depending on how long ago the battery cycle has started you will see two shorter bricks instead of a long one as before. While waking your machine concentrate on the battery icon and you will notice the wifi-icon popping up just a second after you have woken the screen.
Of course this works also with shorter breaks but I'm not sure what is the shortest interval. Longer sleep period opens the gap in between two wifi-sessions wider. So this makes the working proof easier visible for the eye.
Sort of really a shame that Asus, Google and Nvidia have hybrid, wrongly programmed and even forgotten settings in their setup. (see my thread about the multitasking of the HTC1X http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599214 Maybe helps your multitasking issue.
But as we know, nobody is perfect .... except for xda!!
And then, many report, they don't have this problem at all. Very strange that not everybody is affected by this blind setting.
If this solution doesn't help your device,I am sorry for you. Maybe you have to stick to the bat-control app and learn how to read it, or RMA your device.
Did the job for me.
So I am ready for summer to join in, got enough juice for the IPS+ screen to stun the sun the whole day lun . Rock'n Roll
Edit 121002:
JellyBeans workaround as well.
Edit 120616:
Thank you Asus that the .28 firmware makes my workaround obsolet. Now get rid of this arm5 coding and let the bugger run !!
Edit 2:
Title changed from 'Asus you owe me a blowjob' to something less attractive for trolls.
Should be an obvious solution for everyone. But took me a hell of time to use the next best (second) obvious setting for my w-lan and get the battery saving.
Edit:
Please don't abuse my thread to flame, blame or mob your boss, retailer, dog or whomever. Only confirmation or non-confirmations welcome. If you find another or better or additional solution in the future or the past please feel free to post it. I did not have the time yet to check for the actual amount of powersafe but regarding my normal readings we are gaining the whole lost lot back and don't need to throttle down or ruin our eyes. I reckon the bat is gonna be better because now some of the ASUS optimisation hits some ground.
If you want me to fled off, I have stolen your ideas or you are an ASUS employee with no job-offer, don't PM me.
Thanks
I have been using this setting for a while and while I do get better battery life using the "when plugged in" setting than the newer "disconnect during sleep" setting, in general battery life is still worse in .21 than in previous builds and for me WiFi alone still accounts for more than 60% of my average battery usage according to the battery settings menu. For all of my other Android devices the screen is the largest single user of battery.
It does not happen to everyone. I have it on "never" and as soon as i click the power button, wifi turns off... if i wake the tablet right away (2 or 3 seconds later), i see the wifi reappearing and reconecting. So, for me, the wifi turns off instantly.
In the battery graph my wifi line is nonexistant whenever the tablet is sleeping.
I believe the wifi options are implemented correctly (sort of). But for some reason, it doesnt seem to work for some users.
Another way to save battery is to increase the wifi scanning interval... but that is for when you are using wifi.
I guess, for those experiencing the battery drain, it may be a good temporary workaround to use the solution mentioned by the OP.
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It does not happen to everyone. I have it on "never" and as soon as i click the power button, wifi turns off... if i wake the tablet right away (2 or 3 seconds later), i see the wifi reappearing and reconecting. So, for me, the wifi turns off instantly.
In the battery graph my wifi line is nonexistant whenever the tablet is sleeping.
I believe the wifi options are implemented correctly (sort of). But for some reason, it doesnt seem to work for some users.
Another way to save battery is to increase the wifi scanning interval... but that is for when you are using wifi.
I guess, for those experiencing the battery drain, it may be a good temporary workaround to use the solution mentioned by the OP.
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another way to MAKE SURE you save battery is turn the darn thing off and shutdown and then when you need it's ready to go. I been doing this more recently and it defeats the purpose of tablet, but hey, when i need to use it, after the boot up its on. not trying to be funny.
Let's not get carried away. While a good suggestion it's far from a real solution for all the people that are encountering this issue. It's kind of like suggesting just turning off your tablet when your not using it to prevent battery drain.
prettyboy85712 said:
Let's not get carried away. While a good suggestion it's far from a real solution for all the people that are encountering this issue. It's kind of like suggesting just turning of your tablet when your not using it to prevent battery drain.
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you got me laughing. that was a good one. Op meant well but this tip has been known for a long time.
im still laughing.
demandarin said:
you got me laughing. that was a good one. Op meant well but this tip has been known for a long time.
im still laughing.
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What's even funnier is that the OP is serious about his discovery. Guy probably thinks ASUS owes him something.
Nonetheless, thanks for the redundant tip OP.
Auto flight mode
I always install an auto flight mode program that will turn off the wifi when the screen turns off since most widgets prevents the system from turning it off and going into deep sleep.
almightywhacko said:
I have been using this setting for a while and while I do get better battery life using the "when plugged in" setting than the newer "disconnect during sleep" setting, in general battery life is still worse in .21 than in previous builds and for me WiFi alone still accounts for more than 60% of my average battery usage according to the battery settings menu. For all of my other Android devices the screen is the largest single user of battery.
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Thanks for confirming,
eddymonti said:
It does not happen to everyone. I have it on "never" and as soon as i click the power button, wifi turns off... if i wake the tablet right away (2 or 3 seconds later), i see the wifi reappearing and reconecting. So, for me, the wifi turns off instantly.
In the battery graph my wifi line is nonexistant whenever the tablet is sleeping.
I believe the wifi options are implemented correctly (sort of). But for some reason, it doesnt seem to work for some users.
Another way to save battery is to increase the wifi scanning interval... but that is for when you are using wifi.
I guess, for those experiencing the battery drain, it may be a good temporary workaround to use the solution mentioned by the OP.
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Nice you confirm as well . Unfortunately solutions tend to be temporary, sighh.
flipper2006 said:
another way to MAKE SURE you save battery is turn the darn thing off and shutdown and then when you need it's ready to go. I been doing this more recently and it defeats the purpose of tablet, but hey, when i need to use it, after the boot up its on. not trying to be funny.
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Your way takes far too much time for me to act spontaneous. With my changed settings it's doing it automatically again, just as was intended the 'never' setting. Unless you charge the tablet by cord, the wifi turns off while you put the tablet asleep. I say settings are messed up.
prettyboy85712 said:
Let's not get carried away. While a good suggestion it's far from a real solution for all the people that are encountering this issue. It's kind of like suggesting just turning off your tablet when your not using it to prevent battery drain.
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Don't think you got my point, surely I am not getting yours. you quote your preposter who obviously disagrees with you.
But we both think it sucks, thanks.
demandarin said:
you got me laughing. that was a good one. Op meant well but this tip has been known for a long time.
im still laughing.
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Glad you are having fun and proud you are tolling my thread as well vely sholt time
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What's even funnier is that the OP is serious about his discovery. Guy probably thinks ASUS owes him something.
Nonetheless, thanks for the redundant tip OP.
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You are welcome. You bet I am and I do and please show me the redundance, maybe demandarin can help you while I get a little nap now.
XXRay said:
I always install an auto flight mode program that will turn off the wifi when the screen turns off since most widgets prevents the system from turning it off and going into deep sleep.
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Yeah I seen you mentioning this, but I get rid of bloatware so why would I fill up with supposed stock apps. As I said, worked best for me
Thanks guys for the the exchange, keep on rowing fellas ..
ill be the first one to Thank the OP as no one has. At least he is trying to help and find a solution. Even if it was something already known for the longest time. Sorry if the humor wasn't funny to you. Maybe he didn't know people already knew about this. which is totally fair.
to the OP, have you noticed that when you put wifi to stay on only when plugged in, when in sleep, that it takes a little while for wifi to come back online? meaning if you use the setting you said, then put the prime to sleep unplugged, then wake it back up, wifi doesn't connect back immediately. it takes a few seconds to come back online. that's the only thing I personally don't like about it.
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ill be the first one to Thank the OP as no one has. At least he is trying to help and find a solution. Even if it was something already known for the longest time. Sorry if the humor wasn't funny to you. Maybe he didn't know people already knew about this. which is totally fair.
to the OP, have you noticed that when you put wifi to stay on only when plugged in, when in sleep, that it takes a little while for wifi to come back online? meaning if you use the setting you said, then put the prime to sleep unplugged, then wake it back up, wifi doesn't connect back immediately. it takes a few seconds to come back online. that's the only thing I personally don't like about it.
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yeah but personally this means to me it's working correctly. For the wifi to come back on instantly it would have to keep a connection and just not transfer data, when in deep sleep it completely turns off the wifi radio. When you wake it back up the radio turns back on, and it needs to connect to the AP all over again. This means the wifi was in a deep sleep (actually turned off the tab is in deep sleep) and it is working correctly.
I really wonder why every thread in this forum sooner or later becomes a trolling/flaming thread....
So guys, as usual (*sigh*) please stay on topic.
Trolling and flaming won't be tolerated but will be rewarded by other gifts like infractions and bans.
@OP: You might think about stoping posting in red: It usually implies a high rate of aggressivity towards other members.
Even if this might not be actually true in your case, other members still might missunderstand you.
On topic: This "fix" is really known since like, dunno, Froyo times? At least this setting is there already for ages.
Apart from that it should be obvious that turning off the Wifi drains less power.
However, you had good intentions so don't destroy them by flaming other members.
If you feel attacked by any post, just report it (obviously this goes for all members)
Thanks for clearing up, Diamondback,
What has been known since Froyo x.x is still worth mentioning. Many user have just started their android career because nowadays the hardware and the software are worth it. And once in a while talking about an old known tip is worthwhile especially since nobody else did.
@ demandarin ;-)
Edit on topic (referring to Diamondback):
This was no flame.
Asus shoot themselves in the foot, some people in my thread the same!
Obviously both the feet and so I call trolls by name,
themselves they should blame.
Right? Obviously not, which is a shame.
My only wrong the color of which I was ignorant,
shame on me!
I will change the teasing thread title
from Asus gets busted in Asus will get the game
I've been using this option since day 1. The problem is not that the wifi doesn't sleep. It's more so that it sucks way too much power when it is on.
I have an iPad2 3g as well which I received as a birthday gift so I kept it and with wifi and 3g always on, I still get 5-7 days of use.
On the Prime its dead under 2 days if always on and 3-4 days if off when asleep.
So it's most likely an optimization issue or driver issue.
Maybe the transmit power should go to low when asleep rather than staying strong.
Who knows. Regardless this can be fixed by Asus if they really look into it.
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Elisha said:
I've been using this option since day 1. The problem is not that the wifi doesn't sleep. It's more so that it sucks way too much power when it is on.
I have an iPad2 3g as well which I received as a birthday gift so I kept it and with wifi and 3g always on, I still get 5-7 days of use.
On the Prime its dead under 2 days if always on and 3-4 days if off when asleep.
So it's most likely an optimization issue or driver issue.
Maybe the transmit power should go to low when asleep rather than staying strong.
Who knows. Regardless this can be fixed by Asus if they really look into it.
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Actually the iPad has it's SW architecture on the plus side. I think the high battery drain on the TFP (and/or Android in general) is also strongly linked to the number of apps synching in background.
Maybe it can be fixed with drivers. Lowering transmit power sounds good. Could be that Asus optimized to much for the folks complaining about wifi performance....
The setting to turn off wifi while the tablet sleeps makes no sense for my use case. I mean for a wifi only device, it makes not much sense to turn it's connection to the outside off. How will I then receive notifications on gtalk, mail and so on? If I would like to safe power that way, I rather turn it completely off.
For a phone with 3g / edge data connection it might make sense. This applies for the 3g iPad as well.
I agree, it got a bit worse with .21 but for me battery life is still awesome.
Thanks anyway for bringing it to the mind of new users. Although I wouldn't call this a fix but a workaround.
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Elisha said:
I've been using this option since day 1. The problem is not that the wifi doesn't sleep. It's more so that it sucks way too much power when it is on.
I have an iPad2 3g as well which I received as a birthday gift so I kept it and with wifi and 3g always on, I still get 5-7 days of use.
On the Prime its dead under 2 days if always on and 3-4 days if off when asleep.
So it's most likely an optimization issue or driver issue.
Maybe the transmit power should go to low when asleep rather than staying strong.
Who knows. Regardless this can be fixed by Asus if they really look into it.
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Yes, I agree about the drain but isn't it probably because of the stylish casing! So nothing we can change there, but Asus could clock it down while asleep as you suggest.
tobi01001 said:
Actually the iPad has it's SW architecture on the plus side. I think the high battery drain on the TFP (and/or .....
I agree, it got a bit worse with .21 but for me battery life is still awesome.
Thanks anyway for bringing it to the mind of new users. Although I wouldn't call this a fix but a workaround.
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You are right I have already changed the op from fix to workaround.
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Actually the iPad has it's SW architecture on the plus side. I think the high battery drain on the TFP (and/or Android in general) is also strongly linked to the number of apps synching in background.
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My iPad2 goes ding ding ding all night. Lots of apps syncing. 3 email accounts. CNN app, and multiple other apps.
But I think iOS uses a very low power state for background sync while in sleep compared to Android.
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Solved my problem.
thank you
Not sure if it's relevant because this was posted for the GS2 but it could also help with wifi drain on the prime.
from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25876666&postcount=3
"FAQ
Q: Wakelocks "wlan_rx_wake" wake up my device constantly what I can do about it?
A: The problem is neither Android nor the kernel, but the router and the (Windows7) network. In the network properties, uncheck "IPv6", disable the service "IP Helper", "Shell Hardware Detection" and "Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service", which provide ongoing Traffic. Then they scored again 98% of deep sleep."
And how you disable ipv6 on your phone/tablet is with a script but the value in the file gets recreated everytime you turn wifi on and off. So if you disable ipv6 then turn wifi off, then back on, ipv6 will be enabled again. I got around this by a tasker profile that will run every time my tablet connects to a wifi network. So it disables ipv6 right away again. You could do this in an init.d script(or in sysctl) as well but then you have the issue of it resetting itself if you turn wifi off/on
If you have tasker create a new profile for when wifi is connected, then run a shell script task, and check run as root. This is the command echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/wlan0/disable_ipv6
to enable it just replace the 1 with a 0. You can also run the command in a terminal window if you just want to test it. I did it for my phone, and I just set it for my prime so I'll see if it drains less battery with it off..
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Yes, I agree about the drain but isn't it probably because of the stylish casing! So nothing we can change there, but Asus could clock it down while asleep as you suggest.
You are right I have already changed the op from fix to workaround.
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I would just like to say thanks and let you know that I had SOD problems on my prime (as bad as up to once every day in frequency) for a very long time since .21 came out, after trying your work around (several weeks ago) ever since I have not had a single SOD sleep of death issue whatsoever.
I always suspected it was dock recharging causing the SOD fault but maybe it was a bum wifi stack or something, so thank you very much my tab is much more stable because the suggestion you've shared with me.
Unfortunately it does not help any flickering or GPU bugs I tend to get on occasion. I truly hate .21 it is so god awful for GPU, SOD and storage I/O.
I should just man up and downgrade but meh, sif i have the time do it
But yeah, thanks heaps, your workaround is an awesome suggestion.
My wife's Rezound (.605, ClearnROM 4.5) has been stable for weeks and weeks. Then, in the last 72 hours or so, it suddenly started ripping through its battery in minutes -- fully charged to dead in 90-180 minutes, even if the phone is just sitting on a desk, untouched, screen off. There doesn't appear to be anything running in the background to account for the drain (no Facebook or anything like that).
Any ideas? Really don't want to have to return it to stock, exchange it with VZW as defective, go through setting up a new one.
Thanks in advance...
a silly question but have you tried to over clock or under volt it recently?
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My wife's Rezound (.605, ClearnROM 4.5) has been stable for weeks and weeks. Then, in the last 72 hours or so, it suddenly started ripping through its battery in minutes -- fully charged to dead in 90-180 minutes, even if the phone is just sitting on a desk, untouched, screen off. There doesn't appear to be anything running in the background to account for the drain (no Facebook or anything like that).
Any ideas? Really don't want to have to return it to stock, exchange it with VZW as defective, go through setting up a new one.
Thanks in advance...
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best thing to do is go into settings and see what has been using the phone. Go into apps, too and see what has been running.. Finally, an app like better battery stats can really help you see what is killing it.
Often in cases like yours, its a recently updated app that is keeping the phone awake for some reason.
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a silly question but have you tried to over clock or under volt it recently?
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topgun1953 said:
best thing to do is go into settings and see what has been using the phone. Go into apps, too and see what has been running.. Finally, an app like better battery stats can really help you see what is killing it.
Often in cases like yours, its a recently updated app that is keeping the phone awake for some reason.
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No to overclocking or undervolting. Haven't really had the need to do either since moving off our Droid Xs some months ago. But that was a good thought.
The screen appears to be what's killing the phone. For some reason, it keeps setting itself for Sleep/Never, meaning the screen is on all the time. The last time spent changing that setting seems to be working. Not sure why it keeps toggling back to that setting. May have to reset the phone, reload a ROM and see if a fresh start makes a difference...
Why would you power down, when the sleep state is as efficient as it is? Do you all turn your devices completely off while you're not using your tablet, or do you just let it sleep?
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I turn every electronic device off at night when I'm going to sleep.
Its just a personal preference, I just don't like things running and getting wear and tear when I'm not using them at all.
My phone gets turned on when I wake up, but my tablet usually doesn't get turned on until almost 16 hours later due to work and school.
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More than a preferenc, one needs a good, logical reason not to shut if OFF.
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Thank you both for your excellent opinions. This will make for a good argument. I'll do a little experiment... I'll charge my tablet up to 100%, and let it sit in a sleep state for 24 hours, and we'll see how much battery drain it experiences. Check back on Tuesday.
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More than a preferenc, one needs a good, logical reason not to shut if OFF.
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No one doesn't. I don't feel like shutting it off. I see virtually no battery drain yet apps i use for news feeds, twitter, etc are instantly available at a moments notice. This thread will be complete personal preference, I am aware there is no right or wrong answer here (you seem not to have that awareness) but in my head, there is no logical reason TO shut it off.
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Some browsers dont let them show up properly. It works fine for me and other users.
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No one doesn't. I don't feel like shutting it off. I see virtually no battery drain yet apps i use for news feeds, twitter, etc are instantly available at a moments notice. This thread will be complete personal preference, I am aware there is no right or wrong answer here (you seem not to have that awareness) but in my head, there is no logical reason TO shut it off.
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This is my exact opinion too.
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No one doesn't. I don't feel like shutting it off. I see virtually no battery drain yet apps i use for news feeds, twitter, etc are instantly available at a moments notice. This thread will be complete personal preference, I am aware there is no right or wrong answer here (you seem not to have that awareness) but in my head, there is no logical reason TO shut it off.
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this ^
Some people have a need/desire for being able to receive and to know about timely updates of email, news, text messages and calls incoming to cell phone (via apps like cloudsms, tablet talk), etc whether it be for work or just for pleasure. It still baffles me why wptski thinks people have to justify it. Use the tablet however you want to use it. There's no right or wrong way. Where the heck did you read that it was horrible and awful to let your tablet sleep? Why do you think the makers of this tablet (and every single tablet ever created) incorporated the ability for the device to go into deep sleep, a state in which it consumes next to no battery?
I use my Nexus 10 as an alarm clock, and to receive calls and texts with Google Voice; I need it on at all times pretty much
I don't shut mine off. I turn wifi off when I'm done with it and have zero drain. I like to be able to just pick it up and surf the net or play a game. I don't like to wait for it to boot, plus I have a fair share of widgets on my home screen so it usually takes a while to load.
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Some people have a need/desire for being able to receive and to know about timely updates of email, news, text messages and calls incoming to cell phone (via apps like cloudsms, tablet talk), etc whether it be for work or just for pleasure. It still baffles me why wptski thinks people have to justify it. Use the tablet however you want to use it. There's no right or wrong way. Where the heck did you read that it was horrible and awful to let your tablet sleep? Why do you think the makers of this tablet (and every single tablet ever created) incorporated the ability for the device to go into deep sleep, a state in which it consumes next to no battery?
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One has a reason for everything they do. If it's for real time receiving, emails news, etc., fine, that's a reason. To charge in sleep mode overnight without the previous mentioned reasons makes no sense at all.
I use the sleep mode if on battery when I leave the room for whatever. Sure they all have that feature but do think it was intended to be used as the for all extended charging times?
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Some browsers dont let them show up properly. It works fine for me and other users.
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They appeared fine in the other thread just not in this one.
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mrRobinson said:
No one doesn't. I don't feel like shutting it off. I see virtually no battery drain yet apps i use for news feeds, twitter, etc are instantly available at a moments notice. This thread will be complete personal preference, I am aware there is no right or wrong answer here (you seem not to have that awareness) but in my head, there is no logical reason TO shut it off.
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There you go, a reason. I didn't say it was right or wrong, just simply asked, why, which seemed to really bother some users. The one thing that I'm aware of is that there are some people here that don't like anyone to question why they do something.
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One has a reason for everything they do. If it's for real time receiving, emails news, etc., fine, that's a reason. To charge in sleep mode overnight without the previous mentioned reasons makes no sense at all.
I use the sleep mode if on battery when I leave the room for whatever. Sure they all have that feature but do think it was intended to be used as the for all extended charging times?
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They appeared fine in the other thread just not in this one.
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There you go, a reason. I didn't say it was right or wrong, just simply asked, why, which seemed to really bother some users. The one thing that I'm aware of is that there are some people here that don't like anyone to question why they do something.
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It's just like Plug and Play. Do you unplug your mouse after you stop using your computer? I'm sure you don't. Apply the same principle here and you'll see why it makes it more tedious (I.e. makes no sense in my opinion as well) to shut it down instead of just pressing a button to go into sleep( where it uses little to no battery) and have it ready for you at a moment's notice.
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It's just like Plug and Play. Do you unplug your mouse after you stop using your computer? I'm sure you don't. Apply the same principle here and you'll see why it makes it more tedious (I.e. makes no sense in my opinion as well) to shut it down instead of just pressing a button to go into sleep( where it uses little to no battery) and have it ready for you at a moment's notice.
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No, I don't unplug my mouse but it's not ON. I don't dim a light either, I shut it OFF. More tedious??? Are you serious??? Mine boots in 13 seconds! Nothing is that important that I'd need to use my tablet in a moments notice. This is a difference of priorities in life and may have something to do with age groups.
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More than a preferenc, one needs a good, logical reason not to shut if OFF.
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I disagree. Since turning the tablet off has disadvantages versus sleep, one needs a good reason not to use sleep. Turning off the tablet takes more effort than tapping the power button, or in my case simple using the magnetic switch. Additionally, when you want to use the tablet again it takes less time to wake the tablet. Also, apps will be in the same state that you left them and you can receive notifications, alarms, etc.
The advantage of turning the tablet off? Saving <1% of battery or saving a whole 1% of battery if you are leaving it overnight.
But in the end you're probably right, it is perhaps more than a preference for some. I would akin habitually feeling the *need* to always turn the tablet off to some type of OCD.
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I disagree. Since turning the tablet off has disadvantages versus sleep, one needs a good reason not to use sleep. Turning off the tablet takes more effort than tapping the power button, or in my case simple using the magnetic switch. Additionally, when you want to use the tablet again it takes less time to wake the tablet. Also, apps will be in the same state that you left them and you can receive notifications, alarms, etc.
The advantage of turning the tablet off? Saving <1% of battery or saving a whole 1% of battery if you are leaving it overnight.
But in the end you're probably right, it is perhaps more than a preference for some. I would akin habitually feeling the *need* to always turn the tablet off to some type of OCD.
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Don't you see where you actually gave a reason?? Well, except for the extra effort part, I follow you.
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Sure they all have that feature but do think it was intended to be used as the for all extended charging times?
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Actually yes I do. No where does it say in any manual whatsoever for any tablet or smartphone that you are to turn off the device when charging. Before you I never met anyone who followed this practice. I see turning a device off as supposed to be used for when you are done using a device for a long period of time and dont need it to be on. If we are supposed to turn these off anytime we stop using the tablet or to charge, why would companies bother to spend so much effort looking for ways to bring the device into such deep sleep levels and bring its sleep drain down to next to nothing? Also, if we were supposed to turn a device off then no one would allow charging while connected to a computer to transfer files. You claim we all need to have some great reason for not turning the tablet off, and we are all giving you one. You just wont accept that reason and feel there needs to be a greater one. Yet you have not given any better reason as to why you feel a tablet must be turned off between uses. Also when you first started this debate with your question as to why, the wording you chose implied that we were all wrong and you are right, and everything you have said since then goes more to that mindset. If you don't like that people take what you say the wrong way, then find a different way to say it that isn't so offensive.
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Actually yes I do. No where does it say in any manual whatsoever for any tablet or smartphone that you are to turn off the device when charging.
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I usually don't turn off my devices while charging them either. I did turn my N10 off to charge it one day recently in hopes to charge it as much as possible in a short time span, but I really have no idea if it helped
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Actually yes I do. No where does it say in any manual whatsoever for any tablet or smartphone that you are to turn off the device when charging. Before you I never met anyone who followed this practice. I see turning a device off as supposed to be used for when you are done using a device for a long period of time and dont need it to be on. If we are supposed to turn these off anytime we stop using the tablet or to charge, why would companies bother to spend so much effort looking for ways to bring the device into such deep sleep levels and bring its sleep drain down to next to nothing? Also, if we were supposed to turn a device off then no one would allow charging while connected to a computer to transfer files. You claim we all need to have some great reason for not turning the tablet off, and we are all giving you one. You just wont accept that reason and feel there needs to be a greater one. Yet you have not given any better reason as to why you feel a tablet must be turned off between uses. Also when you first started this debate with your question as to why, the wording you chose implied that we were all wrong and you are right, and everything you have said since then goes more to that mindset. If you don't like that people take what you say the wrong way, then find a different way to say it that isn't so offensive.
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If I would have that asking why somebody did something would cause such a turmoil. Where do get that I expect a great reason to leave it ON while charging overnight? Just a reason is good enough and I got a few. If you have a reason to, leave it ON. Now if somebody leaves it ON every night while charging but not for any of the reasons mentioned it wouldn't make any sense.
If you think that I've been offensive, you can't take criticism very well. You can't be asked why you did something? C'mon!
wow - I didn't expect the bloody spanish inquisition!
almost sounds like an android vs ios thread...
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It's mostly just your unwillingness to accept that some people see no need to turn it off at night, whether they have a specific reason or not. Glad you've come around though, and I hope one day soon, you'll turn off your wifi and let it SLEEP.