One thing i dont understood ...
Nexus 7 2013:
3.950 mAh (bis zu 9 Stunden aktive Nutzung) -> 9 Hours Battery life on active Using
Nexus 9:
6.700 mAh [+2700 mAh]
Surfen mit WLAN: bis zu 9,5 Std. -> Using WLAN 9,5 hours
Surfen mit LTE: bis zu 8,5 Std. -> LTE Using 8,5
Videowiedergabe: bis zu 9,5 Std -> Video Playback 9,5 hours
cyberdev said:
One thing i dont understood ...
Nexus 7 2013:
3.950 mAh (bis zu 9 Stunden aktive Nutzung) -> 9 Hours Battery life on active Using
Nexus 9:
6.700 mAh [+2700 mAh]
Surfen mit WLAN: bis zu 9,5 Std. -> Using WLAN 9,5 hours
Surfen mit LTE: bis zu 8,5 Std. -> LTE Using 8,5
Videowiedergabe: bis zu 9,5 Std -> Video Playback 9,5 hours
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well for one it has a K1 GPU
The K1 is a juice sucker, but has great performance.
That's why they built in such a big battery.
I hope, it does charge fast.
EDIT : +Bigger Screen
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Just think between the sizes of the two tablets and spec of each tablet.
3950mah nexus 7 2nd gen (7inch) 9hrs screen time
6.700mah nexus 9 tablet (8.9inch) 9.5 screen time
So the difference here 2,750mah and 1.9 inches combined with a very powerful CPU/GPU, the on screen time of 9.5 hours is very impressive. Remember the biggest drain to any battery is always going to be the display, specially the very large ones like a 9 inch. And also this was not the finished article of the nexus 9 so results may improve!
I Think the tab s is 8.4 inch with a 4900mah battery not sure what's the on screen time? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
The screen takes up the most power on all devices, so larger screen size means more power draw. The backlight takes up the most power of course, but you also have to account for the pixel count. While on a regular LCD screen (AMOLED is different) the extra pixels dont necessarily increase power consumption by themselves, you do need more processing power to drive more pixels so that leads to increased power consumption by the chipset during use. Both combine to take a lot more power than the smaller size, smaller res screens. AMOLED is nice because the pixels emit light, which means no backlight, which means lower power draw when more black content is displayed on screen. Using a black skin for your ROM *can* lead to significant power savings on AMOLED devices. Personally, I wish this tablet was using AMOLED since I like the much better blacks, more saturated (ok, over saturated) colors, and the power savings it can give. But I know a lot of people dont like them for various reasons, and making giant pixel count and/or giant sized AMOLED displays can be expensive
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I just bought Pantech Burst. compare to other new phone, this one looks very competitive but price is just a fraction half of them.
dual core 1.2ghz (full clock 1.5ghz)
andreo 220
1gb ram
16gb internal memory
4" super amoled wvga (pentile matrix = Hate this!)
overall performance, this one is really impressive fast and easy to use.
HOWEVER, battery also DRAIN FAST ! ( 4 hours gaming, or 6hour wifi internet suffing, or 4 hours calling, or 5hr 3g internet surfing )
is there any one can tweak the power management to consume less battery on light task like, 2D internet ? underclock, undervolt.... ?
if wifi/bt/3g-data/gps..... are off, only for receive call, i can use up to 38hrs standby. if only for receive calls, other phones can standby up to 3 to 5 days. still much better than this one.
Most everything is currently being discussed on another thread. atleast until we can get our own section on here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487576
Hi guys i would like to know how high you get it on your phones?
I have the lg o2x and have max al and draw distance at 80% then its smooth.
Just want to know how for you can get the draw distance.
ow and om my hp touchpad 1.2hgz dual core adreno 220 i get some where like 50-60% draw distance but its a 9.7" screen so more pixels! But yeah.
Thx
Just put what settings you have. Thx
So me
Lg optimus 2x cm7 kang rc 100
Resolution: 100%
Details: max
And every thing on! (forgot what is more to put on XD)
Draw distance: 80%
On 100% lags a little.
Hp touchpad cm9 nightly
Resolution: 100%
Details: max
Same every thing on
And draw distance around: 60-67% smooth, more then 70% and it's slow
but its a tablet so more pixels.
But yeah i would like to know,
Ow yeah
Htc one X, same settings as the LG
More pixels so more work! and i think it's not optimized because i'm sure tegra3 can play full.
But looks beautiful on a hd 720p screen.
It's just a basic test but here it is
1 45min Episode of Star Trek TNG Note 2 10% battery Drain Effective 1% drain per 4.5 Min
1 45 Min Episode of Star Trek TNG DNA 17% Battery Drain Effective 1% Drain per 2.6 Min
Both are using Cell Network not wifi.
DNA was set to auto brightness
Note 2 Full brightness
Too bad TNG is not in HD so that extra power consumption on the DNA would be put to good use.
Haha!
But it still gives you an idea on media playback.
I would say this is typical when camparing a phone with 3100 mah and one with 2000 mah
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Let's be realistic, no one's buying the DNA for fantastic battery life. But you'll notice it's much closer to the N2 in web browsing. AMOLED does better than LCD on dark content (video) while the reverse is true on light content (browsing).
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BarryH_GEG said:
Let's be realistic, no one's buying the DNA for fantastic battery life. But you'll notice it's much closer to the N2 in web browsing. AMOLED does better than LCD on dark content (video) while the reverse is true on light content (browsing).
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But were those done on the Verizon note? The initial tests were on the At&t version.
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But were those done on the Verizon note? The initial tests were on the At&t version.
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It doesn't matter. The browser test is done over Wi-Fi and the video playback test is using looped local content. Here's how they test and what the endurance number means.
The web browsing test is performed using an automated script which reloads a webpage every ten seconds. There are no flash elements on the web pages, so the playing field is even. The brightness of the phones' displays is set to 50% and we use a Wireless N router placed a few meters away to get full connectivity bars.
In our video playback test we measure how long it takes for a device to run its fully charged battery down to 10%, while looping a standard-definition video. We stop at 10% since most devices shut their video players at this point. The display is again set to 50%, and all radios on the device are switched off (Airplane mode).
Finally, our overall longevity rating gives you an idea of how much battery backup you can get on a single charge. A score of 40h means that you'll need to fully charge once every 40 hours if you do one hour of 3G calls, one hour of video playback and one hour of web browsing daily. Essentially, it's an aggregated and normalized score, which factors in the three mentioned tests along with the real-life standby power consumption, which we also measure.
Here's what they said about LTE.
The HTC Droid DNA has pretty efficient standby, which helped it score an endurance rating of 49 hours (that’s the time between charges if you do an hour each of calling, browsing and watching videos). While we would have liked to see a bigger battery in a phone the size of the HTC Droid DNA, it turns out that 2,020mAh are quite enough to keep the beast going. Just keep in mind that taking advantage of that fast 4G LTE connectivity will add further strain on the battery.
Things could be much worse though...
Note 2 - 3100mAh Battery - 10% loss means 310mAh was used during that time.
DNA/Butterfly - 2020mAh Battery - 17% loss means 340mAh was used.
IMO ... not much difference keeping in mind the better screen of the DNA/Butterfly ... I would vote for HTC here
v-b-n said:
Note 2 - 3100mAh Battery - 10% loss means 310mAh was used during that time.
DNA/Butterfly - 2020mAh Battery - 17% loss means 340mAh was used.
IMO ... not much difference keeping in mind the better screen of the DNA/Butterfly ... I would vote for HTC here
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But it's kind of like comparing a Toyota Corolla that gets 27MPG with a range of 343 miles to a tank to a Land Cruiser that gets 18MPG but has a range of 442 miles. The Corolla's great if you you can refuel somewhere along those 343 miles if you're going on a 442 mile trip. And since recharging phones is a nominal expense more is always going to be better. And being able to swap batteries is even better than that. But when the consequence is running out of gas any phone with a small-ish non-removable battery's efficiency only gets it so far. Obviously not an issue for light users or people that can top-up frequently. I had a Teg3 One X with a battery only 11% smaller than the DNA's so I've lived the dream.
Agreed .... What I can state from my experience with phones is that HTC's Quality/Aesthetics is the nearest that can be achieved on Android when compared to iOS (Again IMO, dont flame) ... And the way I see is that if I can carry extra battery in the pocket, I can carry a portable charger as well ... Would not have traded-in the slim figure of the Butterfly with thicker one just to increase little battery capacity.
And these have been my phones in past 3 months (no particular order) ...
HTC Butterfly (Current, Non-LTE)
iPhone 5 (LTE)
Galaxy S3 (LTE/Non-LTE both)
Note 2 (LTE)
Xperia V (LTE)
HTC One X+ (non-LTE)
...
The one thing I don't understand is why HTC doesn't learn and increase the battery size. They focus on efficiency which is really good. AFter 8 hours of standby my DNA lost 1% battery. But when you use the dna for video and on screen time it just drains too fast. It needs a bigger battery. HTC keeps sticking small batteries in 4.8+ Inch phones.
Nyxagamemnon said:
The one thing I don't understand is why HTC doesn't learn and increase the battery size. They focus on efficiency which is really good. AFter 8 hours of standby my DNA lost 1% battery. But when you use the dna for video and on screen time it just drains too fast. It needs a bigger battery. HTC keeps sticking small batteries in 4.8+ Inch phones.
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What is too fast? I consistently see 12-14 hour days out of a charge with lots of screen time and music, even with a couple vids thrown in there too.
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Here's some updated figures
Note 2 with Power saving mode on lost 5-6% Battery life
DNA still 17%.
I'd expect between 10-15 hours of life on power saving mode just watching movies on netflix.
While the DNA will be dead within 4-5 hours.
That's the big difference. On screen time consumes the most energy and that's where the dna is lacking in battery size and it shows.
I really see no point to this thread. The note 2 has a gigantic battery, the DNA has average/slightly above average, of course the note will have better battery life. Anyone who is surprised by that needs to get tested.
The DNA still has above average battery life. Its not lacking in any way, it just doesn't have a monster battery size.
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Bigandrewgold said:
The DNA has average/slightly above average [battery]
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If you wouldn't change the meaning of my words that'd be nice.
I said battery life, not battery capicity. Yes the mah is a little on the low side, but the screen and processor are more efficient than just about any others out there. Which makes for good battery life.
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Bigandrewgold said:
I really see no point to this thread. The note 2 has a gigantic battery, the DNA has average/slightly above average, of course the note will have better battery life. Anyone who is surprised by that needs to get tested.
The DNA still has above average battery life. Its not lacking in any way, it just doesn't have a monster battery size.
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Exactly my sentiments as well. It's like saying the N2 lacks in form factor...but really it's just preference.
Bigandrewgold said:
If you wouldn't change the meaning of my words that'd be nice. I said battery life, not battery capicity.
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Sorry, wasn't intentional.
Yes the mah is a little on the low side, but the screen and processor are more efficient than just about any others out there. Which makes for good battery life.
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Not really. The only difference between S4 Pro and S4 is two additional cores which, when under load, draws more power. Likewise for the additional pixels and the need for a more powerful GPU to push them. Whether for the DNA or any other device people's satisfaction with battery life depends on the size of the battery and how much energy what they typically do in a day requires. So an individual can’t say “battery life is good;” only that it’s good for them. I lived with a 1,800 mAh battery on a One X and was fine with it because I carried battery boosters around. But I would never have recommended it to someone that battery life was important to. And it's not like HTC has to use smaller batteries, other phones on the list are as thin or thinner. At least with a 2,300 mAh battery the M7 forum won't be littered with "it's fine - no it isn't" battery discussions like all of HTC's other recent phones.
"At present, this is the same Krait CPU as what we've seen in MSM8960 in phones like the USA versions of the Galaxy S 3 and HTC One X."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/...agon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
BarryH_GEG said:
Sorry, wasn't intentional.
Not really. The only difference between S4 Pro and S4 is two additional cores which, when under load, draws more power. Likewise for the additional pixels and the need for a more powerful GPU to push them. Whether for the DNA or any other device people's satisfaction with battery life depends on the size of the battery and how much energy what they typically do in a day requires. So an individual can’t say “battery life is good;” only that it’s good for them. I lived with a 1,800 mAh battery on a One X and was fine with it because I carried battery boosters around. But I would never have recommended it to someone that battery life was important to. And it's not like HTC has to use smaller batteries, other phones on the list are as thin or thinner. At least with a 2,300 mAh battery the M7 forum won't be littered with "it's fine - no it isn't" battery discussions like all of HTC's other recent phones.
"At present, this is the same Krait CPU as what we've seen in MSM8960 in phones like the USA versions of the Galaxy S 3 and HTC One X."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/...agon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
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Yes, the s4 pro has 2 more cores, which allows it to complete any given task faster and allow it to get back to idling quicker. And it is a 28 nm processor, which is more efficient than the note 2's 32 nm processor, which is the main focus of this thread.
Also, the DNA has a super LCD 3 display, which is super efficient.
The battery life on the DNA is on par with the gs3.
If people use their phone enough to be able to complain about battery life on their DNA than they should of known that they would of needed either a note 2 or a RAZR maxx.
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HTC could have easily put a 3100mah battery in the phone, my point is that they always lack on battery size and capacity.
Hey guys
I was looking over the power saving options and theres not that much in there, it just disables some stuff which you could do manually and I started thinking about my Galaxy S3
with power saving on it would underclock from 1.4 too 1.0 and save around 1 hour of screen on time, but did lag a bit
Sony should have done the same and underclocked it from 2.2 to 1.5, I say this because 1.5 is really enough anyway, and the amount of battery it would save would probably be a lot!
What do you guys think?
J
JackHanAnLG said:
Hey guys
I was looking over the power saving options and theres not that much in there, it just disables some stuff which you could do manually and I started thinking about my Galaxy S3
with power saving on it would underclock from 1.4 too 1.0 and save around 1 hour of screen on time, but did lag a bit
Sony should have done the same and underclocked it from 2.2 to 1.5, I say this because 1.5 is really enough anyway, and the amount of battery it would save would probably be a lot!
What do you guys think?
J
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I do not understand your reasoning... You are assuming that a device that is able to do 2.2Ghz, is running at 2.2Ghz all the time?
Normally, when you task the CPU 100% -> 2.2GHz
But it uses different profiles. So a 10% task, will maybe run the cpu at 800Mhz
Please note: i do not know exactly how many power profiles are in the Snapdragon 800.
But if you perform x task in 10 second at 800mhz, or 3 second in 2.2Ghz ... in battery level its not to make a big difference ( unless your task is going for hours ).
Also remember, your S3, used a 1 + 4 configuration. That means, minimum tasks are run on the slower core. Large tasks it activates the 4 core setup. Its possible on the older Tegra3, that the 4 cores may not be powered gated, and you are activating too many cores, for the task your running. Or its leveling the power profile on all the cores, when running a single task. So that is why you get a hour more battery life ( i assume again, you mean on-screen battery life ).
The Snapdragon unlike the Tegra3, runs in a 4 core configuration with power-gating the idle cores. So it does not need to constantly switch between little.big configurations ( that little.big is designed to safe power, but it also costs power when it needs to do a lot of switching ).
If you deliberately slow things down, yes, you can save power. But you also wait longer for the task to finish. Unless somebody can show conclusive evidence that locking your CPU down, has a advantage, i will more or less state, that under normal situation ( surfing, chat, email whatever ), your screen is actually the biggest power drainer. I see this clearly also on my device, with it draining over 50% on a 5h+ on-screen time.
Unless people have done some experiments, i assume that any advantage of lower clocking your cpu, will be minimalism. Unless you lower clock your CPU, AND also under-voltage your CPU.
I think you will see much more energy gain, from lowering your screens brightness ( and disabling the automatic screen strength adjustment ), especially with this big 6.4" screen. Or just get a Power Jacket...
http://shop.brando.com/Power-Jacket-with-cover-For-Sony-Xperia-Z-Ultra-4500mAh_p10103c1591d003.html
That gives you a nice 80 a 90% extra charge on the road. Or install a USB-lighter plug in your car, and voila. More mobile power source *lol*
Hello,
I'm interested to see your chip binning number.
To see it, reboot with volume down+bixby button+power button all pressed.
CL0 is little cores,
CL1 is big cores,
G3D is GPU.
For comparison, this is the poll with G3D on S8 devices - https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/exynos-chip-binning-t3596434. I'll make the same poll with G3D only so that we could compare it easier.
There are 15 groups (1-15). Higher number - better bin but also higher battery consumption.
Post only G3D to the poll.
CL0 5
CL1 5
G3D 2
Was looking forward to this thread lol.
Now in your thread OP you say the higher the bin number the higher the power consumption, but the s8 thread says opposite, higher bin lower consumption. Which is it?
Cause I'll say my low bin is bringing me low power consumption. Early days looks like 8hrs sot, so looks like your bin power consumption theory is the correct one?
lawtq said:
Now in your thread OP you say the higher the bin number the higher the power consumption, but the s8 thread says opposite, higher bin lower consumption. Which is it?
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Probably I'm wrong. My understanding is that lower binned ones takes more time and effort to produce same results therefore uses more battery but it also may be that lower binned ones are less powerful and use less battery.
So if I'm right (which I guess is less likely) on idle phone lower number means lower battery usage and on active phone higher number means lower battery usage.
What buttons after it boots to the teal green Warning screen?
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TorrentzRock said:
What buttons after it boots to the teal green Warning screen?
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Whatever it says to get to the download mode. There are your numbers.
To leave download mode, simply press and hold power button until phone reboots.
On the Tmobile version it doesn't show the G3D number :/
Korean ones i had to press up after the first screen. Then hold power and vol down to get it to restart.
SM-N950N 256gb
CL0: 6
CL1: 6
G3D: 3
Anyone else?
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On the Tmobile version it doesn't show the G3D number :/
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Another T-Mobile failure to show the G3D here. AND I can't get out of the green screen. It says "Downloading... Do not turn off target"
I held the power button until my thumb bled. Any ideas?
Never mind. It's 'power+volume down' to exit.
FWIW
DLM
CL0: 6
CL1: 6
G3D: 3
SM-N950F dual sim unlocked
Doesnt work on sprint. But it does say RPMB fuse blown lol
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Re-provision Motherboard?
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I have US unlocked and download mode doesn't show anything. No binning numbers.
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CL0 - 6
CL1 - 7
G3D - 4
SM-N950F here.
CL0: 6
CL1: 8
G3D: 4
SM-950F Single sim, UK direct from Samsung.
OP, update your post to say that this binning thing you ask is only applicable to Exynos SoC. SD835 probably shows binning differently ...
CL0 - 5
CLO - 6
GPU - 3
Now I wish I knew what this meant lol
Ry2mkk said:
CL0 - 5
CLO - 6
GPU - 3
Now I wish I knew what this meant lol
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It means that compared to S8/+ which has same chip, your device has worse cores than average. Can't compare to Note 8s as we have very little data. Ideally all these numbers would be 15.
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It means that compared to S8/+ which has same chip, your device has worse cores than average. Can't compare to Note 8s as we have very little data. Ideally all these numbers would be 15.
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Ha. Typical.
Just my luck I get a poor chip
I got
CL0: 6
CL1: 6
G3D: 3
SM-N950F
Any good? In the UK from Virgin Mobile.