Okay, this is pretty simple. I am curious to see what people's results are when you enable ART on LG G2.
Compare battery life (screenshots are welcome), launch times, boot times, bugs, etc.
Overall do you think it was worth it to run ART as it is experimental (i.e. were the benefits worth the bugs - or did you not experience any)? Let us know!
There's one bug in dalvik that annoys the F out of me, and it's the home button lag.
When you press the home button, it sometimes takes a full second for it to go back to the home screen and even the button glow animation stutters. It's present on all stock 4.4.2 roms on dalvik. AOSP Roms work flawlessly on dalvik. Maybe you haven't noticed it, but when you switch to ART you'll notice that the phone is quite a bit smoother.
ART has been a pleasant experience, despite the fact that it's still experimental. It's smoother, faster and gives a noticeable boost in battery life. On lg stock roms, however, I can't cope with the lack of Xposed framework. That's why I find myself going to AOSP roms with native customisability so that I can use ART. it's definitely the future of Android.
Art is superior in battery life and performance, but not compatibility with Apps. I do not currently have any saved stats, but I have posted ones as high as 7hrs+ in the 50hrs battery thread.
I'm currently using aosp and my battery life is worse than with a LG ROM, I'm unable to reach 6.5hrs anymore. However, this may be due to the Google location services and other annoying wake locks.
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All good with dalvik for me, battery great too. Performance is ok. Have not compared it to art yet. Might give art a try later, will keep an eye on this thread for now.
ART slows down app installs 3-4 times and after a cleared cache the reboot takes forever, 15+ minutes on my device.
And I saw no day to day improvements. I went back to Dalvik.
Trying out ART to see how it goes.
Will report back
ART runs faster, no lags but some apps FC.
I'm on dalvik because i need xposed and app settings (to use camera and messages app), i use my phone at 380dpi, if i use it at stock dpi looks weird for me.
I have been on Art since day one with rooting and installing CloudyFa ROMs, the very rare reboots seem to disappear once the ROM has settled, and the G2 feels snappy as hell!
I use ART but honestly can't tell a difference. Maybe it's just me. The G2 is already fast enough.
I am trying out ART because people say there is a benefit and if there perhaps is, I will be getting it.
I have nothing to lose now since CloudyG3 is perfect for me and I do not have to reboot my phone very often
From what I hear Qualcomm optimized Dalvik is as good as ART in 4.4.x. Full featured ART in 5.0 will be much better though.
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I use ART but honestly can't tell a difference. Maybe it's just me. The G2 is already fast enough.
I am trying out ART because people say there is a benefit and if there perhaps is, I will be getting it.
I have nothing to lose now since CloudyG3 is perfect for me and I do not have to reboot my phone very often
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This is my same experience with ART. I switched back shortly afterwards. Optimus G3 V1.4 is so smooth I couldn't tell the difference
sjk971005 said:
I use ART but honestly can't tell a difference. Maybe it's just me. The G2 is already fast enough.
I am trying out ART because people say there is a benefit and if there perhaps is, I will be getting it.
I have nothing to lose now since CloudyG3 is perfect for me and I do not have to reboot my phone very often
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Question: I enable ART with my CloudyG3 rom, it reboots but it doesn't stick. It goes back to Dalvik for some reason. Any thoughts?
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Question: I enable ART with my CloudyG3 rom, it reboots but it doesn't stick. It goes back to Dalvik for some reason. Any thoughts?
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Are you using Xposed Framework? Because if so It's incompatible and will not allow you to transfer to Art
Blackherted said:
Are you using Xposed Framework? Because if so It's incompatible and will not allow you to transfer to Art
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That was the issue, thanks dude.
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That was the issue, thanks dude.
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It's the deal-breaker for me. Negligible performance boost and loss of all things xposed.
Dalvik gets my vote.
It has the best balance between stability and performance for me. Personally, I did not see any significant change in performance when switching to ART, probably because G2 does not lagg on dalvik anyway
Not sure about battery, though. ART might win that race.
Scrolling on dalvik is **** compared to art.
Running Art and will never go back to dalvik. Much smoother and better battery.
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A tiny bit smoother with ART but not really a difference in battery life, and I can't lose xposed! Somebody knows if xposed will become compatible with art in the near future?
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Somebody knows if xposed will become compatible with art in the near future?
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I thought I was alone but there's a thread for this for another carrier (http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/lg-g3-d855-shutsdown-t2803292). I was charging my phone and it randomly shut off twice without any warning. It had plenty of battery so not sure what the issue is. It's as if I installed a bad ROM that needs tweaking. Anyone else?
**Update 7/18/14**
The issue was due to ART being enabled instead of DAVLIK. Looks like we'll have to wait for LG to address that later.
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I thought I was alone but there's a thread for this for another carrier (http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/lg-g3-d855-shutsdown-t2803292). I was charging my phone and it randomly shut off twice without any warning. It had plenty of battery so not sure what the issue is. It's as if I installed a bad ROM that needs tweaking. Anyone else?
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I've been following that also but it appears to be only the D855 International version, although there are 3 at&t posts and 1 guy with sprint who posted once, but none of those 4 posted the version. One of the guys that said his was on at&t after being asked said it was a D855 which is still the international version and doesn't make sense LTE band wise, so for now those 4 posts may just be trolls.
Yea it happened several times again tonight so I'm going to get a replacement unit tomorrow morning. No explanation. I just leave it on my desk while working and it dies so I have to take out/put in the battery to start it up again.
Did it shutdown or freeze? Mine froze 4-5 times since I got it today. When it happens I can't even power it on/off. Had to pull battery.
All these started after I switched to ART. And I've switched back to dalvik it has been OK for about an hour now.
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Did it shutdown or freeze? Mine froze 4-5 times since I got it today. When it happens I can't even power it on/off. Had to pull battery.
All these started after I switched to ART. And I've switched back to dalvik it has been OK for about an hour now.
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This is the exact thing I've experienced with the device today. It froze on me about 3 times with ART. Going back to Dalvik is no problems though
cpg1987 said:
This is the exact thing I've experienced with the device today. It froze on me about 3 times with ART. Going back to Dalvik is no problems though
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Ye I'm pretty sure it's ART now. I've been on the phone (with dalvik) for about 2 hours and no freeze. Before that (with ART) I had 4-5 freeze in less than 3 hours. I can't say ART is noticeably faster either.
Anyway, I may switch to ART one more time but will run back to dalvik at the first sign of trouble.
I'll try switching to Dalvik cause I'm also on ART. My unit wouldn't respond to any button as it would remain a blank screen until I pull the battery.
It's definitely ART people. I can confirm this, because I originally started with ART and experienced random power offs, force closes and freezes. I did a factory reset and tried again with ART and same issues.
I factory reset it again, stayed with dalvik and NO problems. I have 2 other friends go through the same situation and still had issues with ART.
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It's definitely ART people. I can confirm this, because I originally started with ART and experienced random power offs, force closes and freezes. I did a factory reset and tried again with ART and same issues.
I factory reset it again, stayed with dalvik and NO problems. I have 2 other friends go through the same situation and still had issues with ART.
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Is this a Verizon specific issue, e.g., one of the VZW apps doesn't like ART? I've seen many people say switching to ART improves performance with some minor app compatibility problem. but nobody mentioned freeze or power off.
I wonder if disabling VZW bloat may help.
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Is this a Verizon specific issue, e.g., one of the VZW apps doesn't like ART? I've seen many people say switching to ART improves performance with some minor app compatibility problem. but nobody mentioned freeze or power off.
I wonder if disabling VZW bloat may help.
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I did that ,I always go through and disable bloatware. My phone was draining battery and getting hot too.
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In all honesty...art is totally overrated and unnecessary.
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In all honesty...art is totally overrated and unnecessary.
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For now it is, But not in the future.
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Should this be a concern whenever the G3 is updated to Android L? (I'm assuming that will happen at some point...)
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Should this be a concern whenever the G3 is updated to Android L? (I'm assuming that will happen at some point...)
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I thought ART will be the default in L. So hopefully they will test the hell out of it and whatever bug they have now will be fixed.
suzook said:
In all honesty...art is totally overrated and unnecessary.
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For now it is, But not in the future.
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this. right now maybe but it is the future of android
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this. right now maybe but it is the future of android
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That's what worries me a little about getting a device that appears to have so many issues with it [emoji52]
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That's what worries me a little about getting a device that appears to have so many issues with it [emoji52]
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not sure what issues you are referring to. I've had zero issue other than the ART problem. pretty sure that'll get fixed with L, if not earlier.
No issues other than with ART in the last 2 days. I really have nothing to complain about on this phone especially with root, xposed, and tweakbox
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ART Shutdowns
I deleted all lg/vzw bloatware and phone was still shutting down after switch to ART... Until I deleted Google Search. No shutdown since.
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not sure what issues you are referring to. I've had zero issue other than the ART problem. pretty sure that'll get fixed with L, if not earlier.
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I'm referring to the many people who have mentioned problems with their G3s after switching to ART, which is what L is based off (as far as I know based on my limited knowledge of it). So, I was asking people, who have more knowledge than I do, if that indicates a potential problem whenever the G3 is updated to L. I know that sometimes updates don't play well with previous versions (like KitKat messing with my old S3).
Only thing I did when I got the phone was
Very first thing I did was add my google account
I turned ART on and rebooted
Installed Titanium backup
Attempted to restore my apps from my former phone.
During this whole process I had 3 hard lockups and about 6 reboots. (I spent the day trying to get my phone setup)
After 5 hours of hating the G3, I figured it had to be ART.
So I factory reset my phone and repeated all of the above EXCEPT for enabling ART, and did not get a single lockup or reboot.
Anyone else have problem with ART. I really want to use it, Android L everyone will, but I have it on my HTC one m8 and man does help with battery.
Let me know others who have tried this...
Anyone have any thoughts on the matter...
I'm going to be completely honest. I had A LOT of problems when I enabled ART which is weird, because I had it on my m8, g2 and nexus 7 and never had problems, but on my g3 i had Random powering off, constant freezes, force closes and incredible battery drain. I did a factory reset and kept everything on dalvik and everything works great.
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I'm going to be completely honest. I had A LOT of problems when I enabled ART which is weird, because I had it on my m8, g2 and nexus 7 and never had problems, but on my g3 i had Random powering off, constant freezes, force closes and incredible battery drain. I did a factory reset and kept everything on dalvik and everything works great.
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Yep, sucks! Having a clear understanding of how ART works, I really want it, when implemented correctly your battery lasts much longer, and programs load quicker. A shame LG didn't spend any time testing their implementation of it. There are only a couple phones that support this, you would think LG would test, i bet LG didn't bother making sure their own software was compatible. Like turning ART on, on a ROM that doesn't support it. So this pretty much confirms that the LG G3 stock rom does not support ART.
Another reason I can't wait for a bootloader unlock or loki. I know the developer community will be able to get it right. LG did such a bad job it makes me wonder if they're developer team even heard of ART, it looks like they just grabbed the lastest version of KitKat which has ART in there, and they didn't bother doing anything at all to their ROM to coincide.
I spoke with my friend who just got it and he confirmed similar problems on art.
Can confirm, spent 3 or so hours troubleshooting the problems (which I thought were due to an accidental system app restore via Titanium Backup), but it turned out to be ART.
It also might have been the reason for some issues I ran into with downloading/installing apps and updates from the Play Store (usually just taking an extremely long time to install, occasionally freezing and automatically rebooting, occasionally giving an error code), though I can't be 100% sure ART was the cause.
Whatever the case, seems to be stable now on Dalvik. I wonder what's causing the issues on our phones, the other carrier versions reportedly work fine on ART...
It's definitely ART people. I can confirm this, because I originally started with ART and experienced random power offs, force closes and freezes. I did a factory reset and tried again with ART and same issues.
I factory reset it again, stayed with dalvik and NO problems. I have 2 other friends go through the same situation and still had issues with ART.
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i noticed a few of you have said a factory reset back to dalvik. Does it still lock up if you just switch it back in Developer Settings and reboot? Id rather not factory reset after i have my phone set up now. Thanks!
I've been on ART with no issues yet. Maybe I'm a fortunate one. It converted 249 apps, took around 20 mins to do so... But once it did, I had a little stuttering issues. Once the apps settled in, I've been smooth sailing.
I had 4-5 lockups (deep sleep / coma / battery pull) yesterday after flipping over to ART. Last night I did a factory reset and left things w/ Dalvik. No problems yet. Really glad to hear it isn't just me!
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i noticed a few of you have said a factory reset back to dalvik. Does it still lock up if you just switch it back in Developer Settings and reboot? Id rather not factory reset after i have my phone set up now. Thanks!
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Switching it and rebooting should work in most cases, although if you still get lockups and crashes or issues downloading Play Store apps, then I'd do a factory reset too.
Ok, thanks!
when i switched to art I got some massive battery drain, factory restored and it went away. Gonna stick with dalvik for now, until i can figure out what is causing the problem.
I thought my unit was faulty when I switched to ART cause I had random shut downs and high battery drain. It seems though that the G3 (VZW) is not ready for it yet until a firmware update.
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I thought my unit was faulty when I switched to ART cause I had random shut downs and high battery drain. It seems though that the G3 (VZW) is not ready for it yet until a firmware update.
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I enabled it, but it was a disaster making the thing way more laggy than before--brutally slow with apps crashing.
It's clear we all had similar problems with ART and dalvik is the best option.
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I experienced much the same thing.I've pretty much been on ART since I got the phone. I was having a lot of lockups like the rest of you. Last night I factory reset then enabled art again. It seemed ok last night, but this morning it was rough again. Eventually Google play stayed upgrading a bunch of apps. There were some issues while the updates were happening, but when all the updates were nearly done the My Verizon app "unfortunately" closed. Since then it's been golden.
I'm at 40% battery left after 10 hours on battery, 2.5 hours screen on time. Not quite what I was hoping for but much much better than I had yesterday.
I guess I'm a lucky one. Over 250 apps optimized and no issue or reboot. Yet.... In fact I've no issues at all. Worth reboots,heat,wat not..
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I switched over to ART but it was shutting down anytime I would have it locked for more than 5 minutes. Then i would have to pull the battery because it wouldn't turn back on. Now I'm back to davlick for now.
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I switched over to ART but it was shutting down anytime I would have it locked for more than 5 minutes. Then i would have to pull the battery because it wouldn't turn back on. Now I'm back to davlick for now.
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Same thing happened to me.
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I experienced much the same thing.I've pretty much been on ART since I got the phone. I was having a lot of lockups like the rest of you. Last night I factory reset then enabled art again. It seemed ok last night, but this morning it was rough again. Eventually Google play stayed upgrading a bunch of apps. There were some issues while the updates were happening, but when all the updates were nearly done the My Verizon app "unfortunately" closed. Since then it's been golden.
I'm at 40% battery left after 10 hours on battery, 2.5 hours screen on time. Not quite what I was hoping for but much much better than I had yesterday.
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I'm at 65% after 10 hrs & 3.5 hrs of on screen time on dalvik. No issues at all.
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I wont even bother with ART once I get my G3, I never found the difference to be all that noticeable, but I noticed a huge difference on Android L, just wait for the Android L update to the G3 and itll be fully optimized.
Hey guys. Just saw this article stating that the G3 has less battery life with lollipop: http://www.techtimes.com/articles/3...alaxy-s5-htc-one-m8-nexus-5-lg-g3-results.htm
Are you guys running LP seeing a drop in battery like the article??
Im not on stock but I am on Lollipop and the battery life for me has been about the same. I feel like Google really dropped the ball with Lollipop as far as battery life is concerned... like they were talking up project volta and how it was supposed to make battery life 36% better on lollipop for certain devices. Yet most devices seem to be struggling to keep the battery life they had before the lollipop update. I know there is a lot of factors and development isn't necessarily going to be perfect with such a new release but still...
I get at least the same if not better battery use, for me typically 80+ hours before charging, my record, 124 hours.
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I get at least the same if not better battery use, for me typically 80+ hours before charging, my record, 124 hours.
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good god man. how are you getting 80 hrs? is it on standby the entire time??
I dont much difference until i tryed to talk on the phone browse facebook or the internet at the same time im stock lollipop
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Im not on stock but I am on Lollipop and the battery life for me has been about the same. I feel like Google really dropped the ball with Lollipop as far as battery life is concerned... like they were talking up project volta and how it was supposed to make battery life 36% better on lollipop for certain devices. Yet most devices seem to be struggling to keep the battery life they had before the lollipop update. I know there is a lot of factors and development isn't necessarily going to be perfect with such a new release but still...
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One thing everyone must remember. Not all apps have been upgraded to utilize any new programming APIs, etc based on Lollipop. Lollipop under the hood is a different environment. No longer is Dalvik around. It's now ART. Some apps still do things that are only available under Dalvik, hence they do not work under LP.
Also, APIs go out of date, also known as deprecated, as OS'es mature. Apps that continue to use old, out-dated API calls, or were improperly programmed from the beginning but could get away with it in older versions of the Android OS, are now showing their issues. This can result in either the app not working at all, or the app could drain the battery.
Android apps are a different beast from your normal PC Windows application/program. They should not run in the background if minimized/when a user switches out. They usually go into a suspended mode so that they are not consuming resources. Out of the box, when an app is written, all of that handling is set up automatically. However, it can be circumvented due to someone not understanding the Android app life-cycle, or they know it and don't care, and just do poor programming. Either way can result in an app that misbehaves and drains the battery, as well as consuming resources (memory, CPU, etc). That also leads to battery drain.
So, I think part of this is Google, but I also believe that most of it is due to apps that are not optimized for Lollipop. I would like to see, or know, if these tests were run on straight stock with NO user downloaded apps. That would give us a clearer picture as to whether or not LP truly does gain better battery life for certain devices (I read that as newer devices).
No battery life difference for me.
Only difference I've noticed would be the stock LP gives better battery life than AOSP
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One thing everyone must remember. Not all apps have been upgraded to utilize any new programming APIs, etc based on Lollipop. Lollipop under the hood is a different environment. No longer is Dalvik around. It's now ART. Some apps still do things that are only available under Dalvik, hence they do not work under LP.
Also, APIs go out of date, also known as deprecated, as OS'es mature. Apps that continue to use old, out-dated API calls, or were improperly programmed from the beginning but could get away with it in older versions of the Android OS, are now showing their issues. This can result in either the app not working at all, or the app could drain the battery..
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Yeah I keep forgetting about the out of date API's but I practically use only Google Apps, I pretty much have everything I need on Google's platform. I only have a handful of apps that aren't google but I rarely use them. Still haven't noticed a change in battery. Not that the battery is bad per say my battery is actually pretty good especially compared to my S3 back in the day. Ive just been seeing other people complain in different forums. But you're right they are probably not using fully optimized apps for lollipop if they are having battery issues.
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good god man. how are you getting 80 hrs? is it on standby the entire time??
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My wife and I aren't that popular, so we don't talk on the phone much. She does use hers a LOT for games. When we got our G3s, I picked up a Verizon LG G Tab 8.3 VK810.4G as well, so now I spare my phone battery a lot for music in the car, GPS, some gaming and quite a bit of TapaTalk or other web browsing. About the only time I do any of those on my phone is when I'm at work killing time sitting on the toilet, or waiting for my lunch to heat up in the microwave.
gosh one of the main reason i was going to upgrade to LP and reading this it doesn't seem worthwhile anymore. are there any reasons to upgrade to LP other than maybe material design? it seems sort to just be a ui makeover now...
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gosh one of the main reason i was going to upgrade to LP and reading this it doesn't seem worthwhile anymore. are there any reasons to upgrade to LP other than maybe material design? it seems sort to just be a ui makeover now...
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ART instead of Dalvik. It's much smoother now.
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Another thing to do is give it a few days after upgrading. At first, you might see poorer battery life but give it a few days and it might stabilize after that and you might see better battery life.
Also, once you've done this, start monitoring the battery section to see which apps are consuming the most battery life. This should give you an idea as to what is going on. That can help you pin point better misbehaving apps.
Also, I use the Snap Dragon Battery Guru app. That can also help pinpoint apps that might not be behaving correctly, plus it can do some managing of things to help preserve battery life. Not sure how much it helps, but it hasn't hurt, so I continue to use it.
Just some helpful hints that I've observed with this phone. I used to use Greenify, but I have found that I can get just about the same battery life without it as I did with it (at least on this phone), so I've since removed it. But, it's still an option to look at it, and it doesn't require root any more, which is nice for those that don't wish to root. And it has helped me in the past with other phones. I just haven't found that it helps that much with this phone.
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Also, I use the Snap Dragon Battery Guru app. That can also help pinpoint apps that might not be behaving correctly, plus it can do some managing of things to help preserve battery life. Not sure how much it helps, but it hasn't hurt, so I continue to use it.
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Note that stock LG Lollipop builds 23A & 23B result in the SnapDragon Battery Guru app claiming it's incompatible when you go to it's Play Store page, although I haven't tried sideloading/restoring it from Titanium Backup.
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Note that stock LG Lollipop builds 23A & 23B result in the SnapDragon Battery Guru app claiming it's incompatible when you go to it's Play Store page, although I haven't tried sideloading/restoring it from Titanium Backup.
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Ahh. Since I haven't upgrade to LP (still on stock and happy as a clam), this is good to know.
Battery life does not change whatsoever. The display is always the culprit. Can get 5hrs of screen time sometimes 6 per stock battery.
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Battery life does not change whatsoever. The display is always the culprit. Can get 5hrs of screen time sometimes 6 per stock battery.
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Which is why I believe, as I stated earlier, this points to misbehaving apps that are not "tuned" correctly for LP. It's always better to just wipe clean (FDR) and then start restoring apps one by one to see what might be causing it. But also, give it a few days to settle down too.
I'm still waiting for the "official" release and then, will wait to see if either root can carry forward or else, the latest root still works on the official release.
T-Mobile users can now upgrade via the software tool on their Windows machines (not available as an OTA yet for them). Seeing how the G2 is getting it already, I have to imagine the G3 is not far behind. I'd much rather they just give us 5.1 to fix the memory leak.
I have noticed much better battery life on 23B Lollipop. I'm not rooted or anything, but for example I can listen to Audible for my daily drive into work that takes me 1.5 hours and the battery will only drop to 99%. I got 23B following another thread here, but my wife got a replacement G3 and it offered the update to 23b before the SIM card or SD card had been put in the phone. My son has a G2 that got the official Lollipop and it actually required two updates to get there. 1 just installed some system prereqs.
I'm in stock 23c and battery life is the same as it was under kk which for me is a good thing as I got excellent battery life under 12b. I'm not rooted because I want to wait and see if/when another ota comes out to fix the Wi-Fi sync issue.
I just finally updated to 23c. Seems wifi works fine for me thus far. I'll see how battery life is tomorrow after a full charge /discharge. Everything seems pretty snappy so far. I didn't even do a factory reset. Hopefully I won't have too.
Another ROM for you guys to try. I made this from CM13. I added the commit to fix data issues. It is compliant with xposed and gravitybox.
ROM: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B97V_YadJs2bUkFjdWpYWHpxaDA/view?usp=docslist_api
Xposed flash in recovery https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B97V_YadJs2bYXpnaC1DcExYU0U/view?usp=docslist_api. See Rovo89s thread on xposed.
Xposed apk to install:https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B97V_YadJs2bSllSckdaZTg5dXM/view?usp=docslist_api
Xposed uninstaller to be flashed in recovery:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B97V_YadJs2bM3hyR1Y2bncxaEU/view?usp=docslist_api
Gapps to flash:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B97V_YadJs2bNVlJX3JZSVFMNEk/view?usp=docslist_api
And gravitybox.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B97V_YadJs2bRW9OUzFIak9sTXc/view?usp=docslist_api
Any surprises for us ?
Nope. Didn't feel the need to make a bunch of changes since xposed works well. And gravity box. Next build will include several governors. And default sleep CPU freq at 300mhz.
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Yours will contain infinate bootloop LOL
Lol I wouldn't do that to you Davinci.
No I meant just for medwatt, LOL
Lol
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I'm losing a lot of battery in standby mode. However, of I turn mobile data off, I lose about 1% every 5 hours which should be the case. Are you experiencing the same issue?
Mobile data is still not working on cm13 at all without toggling airplane mode. It needs more work. SHM has it working on Candy 6. I cherry picked that commit to make it work and made this ROM. Battery life is the same on this ROM as Candy. When more work is done on data I will merge it here as well. Note I got 18 hours screen on time on this ROM as well as Candy. I will look into cell data more and see what I can find. I still have governors to ads to this ROM. I can add the ability to not enable mobile data when WiFi is on.
Moody66 said:
Mobile data is still not working on cm13 at all without toggling airplane mode. It needs more work. SHM has it working on Candy 6. I cherry picked that commit to make it work and made this ROM. Battery life is the same on this ROM as Candy. When more work is done on data I will merge it here as well. Note I got 18 hours screen on time on this ROM as well as Candy. I will look into cell data more and see what I can find. I still have governors to ads to this ROM. I can add the ability to not enable mobile data when WiFi is on.
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Man, I'm not even getting 8 hours of screen time. I'm using the Candy ROM. Have you checked out the screenshots I PMed you ?
If that's the car it could be an app installed causing it. Or even a bad cell signal. If you are in an area with low or no signal it will cause the radio to constantly be trying to get a better signal. Tower hop. Hard to say. 8 hours is horrible.
Moody66 said:
If that's the car it could be an app installed causing it. Or even a bad cell signal. If you are in an area with low or no signal it will cause the radio to constantly be trying to get a better signal. Tower hop. Hard to say. 8 hours is horrible.
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It's not an app causing it. I'm sure about that. I have excellent signal too. I'm currently 30% with only 6 hours of screen time. Would you mind sharing a screenshot of your 18 his battery life. I want to be awed.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l3X5HVYR56V_FUp9DRFpvTKb9J1cfbyUmg/view?usp=docslist_api
Moody66 said:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l3X5HVYR56V_FUp9DRFpvTKb9J1cfbyUmg/view?usp=docslist_api
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Have you replaced your battery ? What is your standby battery drainage rate ? Man, something has to be wrong with my phone. How can we investigate ?
Maybe wipe and start fresh. Don't restore apps using twrp or titanium. Let android do it after install. Wipe cache and dalvik cache.
Moody66 said:
Maybe wipe and start fresh. Don't restore apps using twrp or titanium. Let android do it after install. Wipe cache and dalvik cache.
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I always wipe cache and dalvik before installing new ROMs. I only use a couple of apps, so I don't want to really believe that the problem might be there.
Moody66 said:
Maybe wipe and start fresh. Don't restore apps using twrp or titanium. Let android do it after install. Wipe cache and dalvik cache.
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Man, I'm going back to stock JB ROM. If you haven't noticed until now, I'm obsessed with battery life and getting less than 8 hours of screen time is killing me. All these new ROMs seem unfriendly to battery.
Here're screenshots of my battery consumption. I didn't even get 8 hours of on screen time. If the battery stats are to be believed, I've lost 3382mah and I'm down to 5% of battery. This means a full charge corresponds to 3560mah. If the battery capacity is 3900mah, then 340mah is unaccounted for. But 3600mah is still a lot of battery. Can someone check his battery stats so that I can compare it with mine and know what's wrong. I'm using Candy ROM.
@Moody66, I'm going to put your suggestion to test. I'm going to do a clean install of the ROM in this thread. After that, I won't install any app and then I'll let it sleep for 7 hours while mobile data is on.
So here is my current problem: My phone will drastically slow down when trying to multitask. I.e. I basically cant do anything when Pandora is running or ill start to get stops and skips (not connection related), and occasionally, depending on the app, the phone with freeze for an extended period, things disappear from the screen, then it goes blank and back to lock screen asking for pattern rather than fingerprint for "added security." (this is what I'm calling a crash)
Many apps will also start to lag and crash after periods of time, even running on their own. Like tumblr, meetme and facebook.
I have my CPU usage up, and idle is around 7 across the board. Once it starts to creep up above 12-15 is when ill start to get the lagging, lock ups and freezes occur around 20-30, and I've seen it spike as high as ~55 before a crash. Thing is, I'm getting lock ups and freezes while the graphical bar (the red, green, blue one) is barely moving past the CPU usage numbers.
Sorry, I'm not too sure what info to provide. This is a new problem for me. My old phone (running a 1.2ghz quad core, LG optimus G) was able to multitask better than this phone. I never had any skips or freezes while running pandora AND one of those other apps on that phone. Is this a corrupted install? Is this Octo core phone just THAT slow?! I'm not super experienced with ADB, but experienced enough to use it if need be. Any help would be appreciated.
KobaltPanther said:
So here is my current problem: My phone will drastically slow down when trying to multitask. I.e. I basically cant do anything when Pandora is running or ill start to get stops and skips (not connection related), and occasionally, depending on the app, the phone with freeze for an extended period, things disappear from the screen, then it goes blank and back to lock screen asking for pattern rather than fingerprint for "added security." (this is what I'm calling a crash)
Many apps will also start to lag and crash after periods of time, even running on their own. Like tumblr, meetme and facebook.
I have my CPU usage up, and idle is around 7 across the board. Once it starts to creep up above 12-15 is when ill start to get the lagging, lock ups and freezes occur around 20-30, and I've seen it spike as high as ~55 before a crash. Thing is, I'm getting lock ups and freezes while the graphical bar (the red, green, blue one) is barely moving past the CPU usage numbers.
Sorry, I'm not too sure what info to provide. This is a new problem for me. My old phone (running a 1.2ghz quad core, LG optimus G) was able to multitask better than this phone. I never had any skips or freezes while running pandora AND one of those other apps on that phone. Is this a corrupted install? Is this Octo core phone just THAT slow?! I'm not super experienced with ADB, but experienced enough to use it if need be. Any help would be appreciated.
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I would first try a clean flash/factory reset/cache wipe but is there a reason why you are still using cm13 vs los14? I had no issues with cm13 but los14 is much better anyways.
NinjaL said:
I would first try a clean flash/factory reset/cache wipe but is there a reason why you are still using cm13 vs los14? I had no issues with cm13 but los14 is much better anyways.
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Los14 was not avail when I was flashing my phone. I use it for business so its always risky to flash and what not. Never had a problem, I just don't wanna risk it. But if this is the case, may as well move to los14.
KobaltPanther said:
Los14 was not avail when I was flashing my phone. I use it for business so its always risky to flash and what not. Never had a problem, I just don't wanna risk it. But if this is the case, may as well move to los14.
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Ah I see, yeah makes sense haha
Yeah I would backup and then try a clean flash/factory reset if you want to stay on cm13, other than that, I don't know anything general you could do as far as staying on marshmallow goes.
Los14 and Los14 based roms are much smoother however and most of the bugs have been worked out by now. If you're not set on staying with marshmallow, try out some of the nougat roms :good:
Obv you'll want to backup, wipe, flash a rom, flash gapps, wipe cache/dalvik, and reboot but you prob know the drill already haha. You are on twrp or cm recovery?
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Ah I see, yeah makes sense haha
Yeah I would backup and then try a clean flash/factory reset if you want to stay on cm13, other than that, I don't know anything general you could do as far as staying on marshmallow goes.
Los14 and Los14 based roms are much smoother however and most of the bugs have been worked out by now. If you're not set on staying with marshmallow, try out some of the nougat roms :good:
Obv you'll want to backup, wipe, flash a rom, flash gapps, wipe cache/dalvik, and reboot but you prob know the drill already haha. You are on twrp or cm recovery?
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Nah, I'm not stuck with MM. I like to stay with the best available, so yeah, I'll definitely go with Los14. Thanks for the input! As long as its smoother and allows me to actually multitask, I'm sold. I tend to use TWRP, but that's probably just because its what I'm used to. The interface is nice. And you can update OTA.
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Nah, I'm not stuck with MM. I like to stay with the best available, so yeah, I'll definitely go with Los14. Thanks for the input! As long as its smoother and allows me to actually multitask, I'm sold. I tend to use TWRP, but that's probably just because its what I'm used to. The interface is nice. And you can update OTA.
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Yeah twrp is what I use too :good: