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About 20 minutes ago I tried to download something via wifi using aDownloader (free torrent downloader from the market). I received a warning saying I don't have enough space or something and it was correct, I didn't. So I immediately went into the program's settings to change the download folder (while still downloading) and that's when the phone froze.
I removed its battery and tried to power it back on, but no luck. It doesn't vibrate for half a second before showing the logo. The screen stays off. The battery was half full and when I try to charge the phone, there's nothing on the screen (like it used to be). Only a quiet sound, meaning that the phone is indeed charging, but without indicating it.
Is it possible the internal memory is completely full? I also have a memory card. I tried to remove both the SD card and the SIM, but nothing's changing.
Mitzah said:
About 20 minutes ago I tried to download something via wifi using aDownloader (free torrent downloader from the market). I received a warning saying I don't have enough space or something and it was correct, I didn't. So I immediately went into the program's settings to change the download folder (while still downloading) and that's when the phone froze.
I removed its battery and tried to power it back on, but no luck. It doesn't vibrate for half a second before showing the logo. The screen stays off. The battery was half full and when I try to charge the phone, there's nothing on the screen (like it used to be). Only a quiet sound, meaning that the phone is indeed charging, but without indicating it.
Is it possible the internal memory is completely full? I also have a memory card. I tried to remove both the SD card and the SIM, but nothing's changing.
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Have you tried to reboot into recovery mode, press and hole volume up, power button and home button together, you should then boot into recevery mode.
I've tried that twice, but no luck.
I've had no problem with the phone until now and it crashed while in the program.
Mitzah said:
I've tried that twice, but no luck.
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You could try booting into download mode, and then using odin to flash a new rom, but you could lose all your data unless you have backed it up.
Also you could connect your phone to your computer and access the file system through their, try and free upsome space, remove what ever you tried to download.
I'm going to try that as well, but where I am right now I don't have a good usb cable (just one that charges and nothing else). Is there something else I could try in the absence of a USB cable?
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I'm going to try that as well, but where I am right now I don't have a good usb cable (just one that charges and nothing else). Is there something else I could try in the absence of a USB cable?
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Not without having your phone fully running
You should try flashing a new Kernel first, one that will give you access to Clockworkmod
Damn. Ok, thanks for your quick responses! I'll be back in a few days, I guess.
Ok so I've gotten my hands on a data cable, but I can't even enter download mode and nothing happens when I plug the cable in. The phone is completely unresponsive.
Does the phone boot at all ?
If not & you can't get into download mode, your last (faint) hope before returning it to your carrier/Samsung would be a jig. Probably won't work, but worth a try for a few bucks. Actually, there's a thread on here where people have offered their jigs for other people to use.
Check that thread & see if there's someone near you on the list. Might save you a week or so waiting for a jig to arrive, that way if the jig doesn't work you can send it in for repair/replacement sooner rather than later.
Unfortunately there's no one near my location. I think I'll take the phone to a service since I'll probably have my waranty void if I take it to my carrier. I haven't installed a custom ROM, but I did root it.
Mitzah said:
Unfortunately there's no one near my location. I think I'll take the phone to a service since I'll probably have my waranty void if I take it to my carrier. I haven't installed a custom ROM, but I did root it.
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Samsung service void warranty if rooted and or custom rom counter does not show zero .
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Hi guys,
I'm truly desperate tonight. This morning I was at work and recieved a phone call. Answered, everything was fine, and put the phone back again on my desk. Half an hour ater, wanted to send a text, so I tried using the phone: screen remained black. I was like "ok,, this stupid S2 froze again, I'll just reboot it bu pulling the battery out".
Did so and........ still nothing. WTF? So I tried plugging it to charge (AC adapter). No "battery" symbol on screen, nothing. Starting to freak out a bit... I trie with a colleague's AC Adapter, same deal. I also tried with his battery, still no go. Phone remains totally off, nothing on screen, can't enter download mode. The only change when I remove the battery/put it back in is that the phone remains cold at first, and then a couple seconds (30?) after I hit the power button, you can start feeling CPU/GPU getting warmer on the right of the camera lens. So basically there's electricity flowing.
Tonight I gave it a go and opened it up to check if something's fried inside. The only odd thing was that BAT500 (google for some explainations) had leaked but the leak was NOT (and I really mean it) causing damages (yet). I removed the battery, as it does not impact dramatically the phone (just causes the date etc to reset to 01/01 when you remove the battery, apparently). But phone still won't boot, no logo, no "battery chrging", no light on screen...
This really looks like the "hard brick" emmc bug, however I've been running 4.0.3 rooted with Chainfire's CWM kernel for the last 6 months or so, and I never did any wipe or "reset to factory". So the so-called "hard brick bug" shouldn't occur. But symptoms sure look like it.
So to get back to my opening phrase, I am truly desperate. I do have backups of nearly every SMS/MMS (maybe not the last 2-3 days but well... I'll get over it) on my Gmail account, however what I don't have is a backup of my contacts. For some reasons, I don't like my contacts to be synced with Gmail, so they were left on the phone's memory (and not the SD card, because I always thought (how stupid of me) "well why put a SD card inside when there's like 16GB of embed storage ?!"). So I'm f**ked for my contacts, and also for many many pictures that were still inside the phone and not yet extracted to my computer.
So the question (for which I fear I already have the answer): is there ANYTHING I can do? i've contacted a guy in Paris who owns a USB jig, so I'll give it a try this week-end if he's available. But other than that, is there ANY way to recover something from my brick? Or someone witha genius idea of how to turn it back on for at least 5-10 minutes... ?
Any help is appreciated I'm really feeling stupid, as I'm always backuping everything, and I probably have backups of backups of backups.... but just not for this stupid phone...
Regards...
PS: Symptoms:
* Black screen, nothing booting nor charging
* When putting battery back on, nothing happens. If I hit the power button, phone starts getting just a bit warm near the lens (right side of it)
* No download mode
* Power+Vol down+Home + usb connection: nothing on screen, nothing on computer, no USB detected, ODIN sees nothing
* No it's not just the screen who died
Edit: Could JTAG be the magic solution? If so, is there any thread here like the "find a USB jig near you"... ? Wouldn't find the equivalent.
CoinCoin88 said:
Hi guys,
I'm truly desperate tonight. This morning I was at work and recieved a phone call. Answered, everything was fine, and put the phone back again on my desk. Half an hour ater, wanted to send a text, so I tried using the phone: screen remained black. I was like "ok,, this stupid S2 froze again, I'll just reboot it bu pulling the battery out".
Did so and........ still nothing. WTF? So I tried plugging it to charge (AC adapter). No "battery" symbol on screen, nothing. Starting to freak out a bit... I trie with a colleague's AC Adapter, same deal. I also tried with his battery, still no go. Phone remains totally off, nothing on screen, can't enter download mode. The only change when I remove the battery/put it back in is that the phone remains cold at first, and then a couple seconds (30?) after I hit the power button, you can start feeling CPU/GPU getting warmer on the right of the camera lens. So basically there's electricity flowing.
Tonight I gave it a go and opened it up to check if something's fried inside. The only odd thing was that BAT500 (google for some explainations) had leaked but the leak was NOT (and I really mean it) causing damages (yet). I removed the battery, as it does not impact dramatically the phone (just causes the date etc to reset to 01/01 when you remove the battery, apparently). But phone still won't boot, no logo, no "battery chrging", no light on screen...
This really looks like the "hard brick" emmc bug, however I've been running 4.0.3 rooted with Chainfire's CWM kernel for the last 6 months or so, and I never did any wipe or "reset to factory". So the so-called "hard brick bug" shouldn't occur. But symptoms sure look like it.
So to get back to my opening phrase, I am truly desperate. I do have backups of nearly every SMS/MMS (maybe not the last 2-3 days but well... I'll get over it) on my Gmail account, however what I don't have is a backup of my contacts. For some reasons, I don't like my contacts to be synced with Gmail, so they were left on the phone's memory (and not the SD card, because I always thought (how stupid of me) "well why put a SD card inside when there's like 16GB of embed storage ?!"). So I'm f**ked for my contacts, and also for many many pictures that were still inside the phone and not yet extracted to my computer.
So the question (for which I fear I already have the answer): is there ANYTHING I can do? i've contacted a guy in Paris who owns a USB jig, so I'll give it a try this week-end if he's available. But other than that, is there ANY way to recover something from my brick? Or someone witha genius idea of how to turn it back on for at least 5-10 minutes... ?
Any help is appreciated I'm really feeling stupid, as I'm always backuping everything, and I probably have backups of backups of backups.... but just not for this stupid phone...
Regards...
PS: Symptoms:
* Black screen, nothing booting nor charging
* When putting battery back on, nothing happens. If I hit the power button, phone starts getting just a bit warm near the lens (right side of it)
* No download mode
* Power+Vol down+Home + usb connection: nothing on screen, nothing on computer, no USB detected, ODIN sees nothing
* No it's not just the screen who died
Edit: Could JTAG be the magic solution? If so, is there any thread here like the "find a USB jig near you"... ? Wouldn't find the equivalent.
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Sorry to say your motherboard is fried...
Only motherboard replacement will do...
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Update; Rangercaptain and 440bro suggested the power switch or the usb port may be the problem.
I dismantled the phone and got my ohm-meter, the power button's circuit is opening and closing as it should between pressed and depressed.
Furthermore I tested the usb port for conductivity at each pin, from the side of the usb cable that would normally connect to the pc all the way through the 'charging flex ribbon' to the phones PCB. all connections are good.
Editing this post as I try new things i find or the things i try that people suggest.
Currently my Note will not boot into recovery or it's ROM, I was running a version of Slimbean.
I can get it to go into download mode via the volume down + power key but I can not for life of me get any pc to recognize it via usb.
I have tried Odin, Adb, and Heimdall with five or six different versions of Samsung USB drivers, Version #'s 1.5.14.0, 1.4.6.0, as well as the drivers listed in the Note 'Super thread' ATT I717 v1_3_2200_0 and two other sets of drivers that did not have version numbers listed, but came from other XDA USB problem posts. I have also tried the Google drivers from the Android SDK.
I have done all this on two different pc's and different usb cables. I've read other problem threads about this and tried most of those suggestions I.E. Uninstall old drivers, reboot, install new ones, reboot, turn off internet, plug in phone. Nada, no sign of the device being recognized at all.
I've tried the 'adb devices' command while the device was in download mode, the command returns nothing.
the USB port still works so far as i can tell, if you plug it in to a charger or the pc the phone will try to boot like it usually does if it's powered off and you plug it in and the phone had been charging fine before this issue, so i've no reason to suspect a bad port.
I have however encountered this USB problem before even while the note was stock and functioning with it not being recognizable over USB, I eventually gave up and it's what caused me to install a ROM on it in the first place because i couldn't get the official android updates with Kies (they require a usb connection).
Would a USB jig be of any benefit in this situation? After searching through XDA forums and the like that's the only thing that seems like it may work but i haven't tried. I'm unclear if it will be of any benefit because the device can already access the ODIN downloading screen.
All in all I've been working on this for about 12 hours so far, so it's possible i may have forgotten something I've tried but i'll update if i remember anything significant.
Finally I'm aware there are two similar threads currently running on the XDA note troubleshooting forums,"Is my note bricked?" and "can't enter download mode" I am also watching them and trying anything that looks relevant but elected to make a new post as my problem is slightly different in that I can access the download screen. If you posted anything there that you think may have applied here, you don't have to re-post. I'll have tried it.
Your power button is stuck.
rangercaptain said:
Your power button is stuck.
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Thanks, I should clarify that the reboot cycle is not indefinite though. it'll give the boot vibration 6-8 times with a few seconds in between each vibration and then stop trying to boot. It also doesn't cycle every time, just occasionally. The other times it will give the vibration only once and then do nothing till you hold the power button down again as if you were trying to turn it on.
It will also stay in the downloading mode until i manually hold the power button down, so the power button is functioning correctly.
morthicius said:
. . . so the power button is functioning correctly.
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If you say so.
Take out the sim and sd card.
I have tried removing the SD card and SIM card as well. Makes no noticeable difference.
I can also add that the USB port still works so far as i can tell, if you plug it in to a charger or the pc the phone will try to boot like it usually does if it's powered off and you plug it in.
I can dismantle the phone and check the power button if you're fairly convinced that's what it is but it really responds exactly like you would expect. The press and return feels fine and the way the device responds to it also feels fine.
Yeah I'm pretty sure it's a stuck power button. If the phone is off and you plug in usb, or charger it should NOT startup by itself. If it does it's most definitely a stuck power button. So I'm guessing your phone is no longer covered by warranty?
Before you go tearing apart the phone try this first. Take off the battery cover and where the power button is you'll see a lil outline. Flick this area with your finger a few times. Flick it hard enough to mildly hurt your finger but not the phone. I had to do this for a while till I got a new note. If that doesn't help take it apart at your own risk.
440bro said:
Yeah I'm pretty sure it's a stuck power button. If the phone is off and you plug in usb, or charger it should NOT startup by itself. If it does it's most definitely a stuck power button. So I'm guessing your phone is no longer covered by warranty?
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It has always started up on its own when you plug it in, at least if it's out of charge. Of that I'm certain. I've had the phone a year and a half or so now. It may not boot up on it's own if you just manually shut it off and plug in a charger though. I don't recall ever trying that scenario directly. It could also be a functionality Slimbean added if stock phones don't do it.
I did just try your flick trick though, thanks. No change.
Just as another example on the power button, I can take the battery out and put it back in and the phone will do nothing until i hold the power button down a few seconds, only then does it do the the "i'm trying to boot" vibration.
Damn I was really hoping the flick trick worked for you like it did me. If you decide to take the back of the phone off, try flicking again anyways before you completely disassemble it. Once you disassemble it, there really isn't much you can do power button wise other than replace it. I'll attach a pic of the power button area for ya. I have one already torn down.
If it's not your power button, I wonder if it's your usb charger port on the phone.... That's an easier part to replace if it is.
I do feel like the USB port is a possibility, even despite my saying it appears to work. is it possible for the port to be damaged in such a way that it still allows the phone to be charged but not establish a data connection? When the phone went brick yesterday It had pretty much just finished fully charging. I had disconnected it from the charger used it a little bit, set it down when it still at about 98% battery life. Around 10 minutes later I got a text message, it made the god awful slimbean text tone (i hate that tone) I went to check it, turned on the display it then repeated the incoming text message tone about five more times in quick succession, locked up, and then died never to return.
I have had the phone apart before because i'm a curious cat, and didn't really mind voiding a warranty.
The only things that would make me skeptical of it being a usb port problem is. 1: It was charging fine and 2: the symptoms at least of the reboot problem itself are leaning towards a software issue the Slimbean install has never really worked great, and would crash and reboot probably twice a day.
Just because the button works doesn't mean it isn't stuck. I've only saved about ten phones by helping the owner to understand the cause of the reboots.
The fact that you already opened the phone increases the chance its the button. Because you said it rebooted on stock or custom ROMs eliminated software. Because your phone charges normally and is recognized by a pc shows its not the usb port.
But hey, what do I know. . .
morthicius said:
Editing this post as I try new things i find or the things i try that people suggest.
Currently my Note is in a reboot cycle, it will not load the ROM or go into recovery mode. I was running a version of Slimbean.
I can get it to go into download mode via the volume down + power key but I can not for life of me get any pc to recognize it via usb.
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rangercaptain said:
Just because the button works doesn't mean it isn't stuck. I've only saved about ten phones by helping the owner to understand the cause of the reboots.
The fact that you already opened the phone increases the chance its the button. Because you said it rebooted on stock or custom ROMs eliminated software. Because your phone charges normally and is recognized by a pc shows its not the usb port.
But hey, what do I know. . .
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He has more than one problem. He can NOT get a pc to recognize it. I missed it first too and had to re-read it a few times. So it could be the port, or the power button.
I think your options are....
-Find a repair center nearby
-Send it in for repair
-Find out which part is cheaper and replace that yourself first.
Sounds good. The usb port is cheap and easy and while the bezel is off you can verify the power button isn't stuck in its hole in the bezel.
Because he flashed a custom ROM from a stock ROM I took that to mean he had to connect to a pc through the usb port, either to Odin flash a recovery or Odin flash Slimbean. And he can still charge it. And data cables go bad, removing drivers doesn't take them out of memory, etc. So usb port isn't 100% bad for sure, but you're right, its a cheap, easy repair.
rangercaptain said:
Just because the button works doesn't mean it isn't stuck. I've only saved about ten phones by helping the owner to understand the cause of the reboots.
The fact that you already opened the phone increases the chance its the button. Because you said it rebooted on stock or custom ROMs eliminated software. Because your phone charges normally and is recognized by a pc shows its not the usb port.
But hey, what do I know. . .
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If the button is 'stuck' it implies that the it's either stuck engaged or disengaged correct?
If that were true and lets say it were stuck engaged, the power button should be acting as if it is pressed. Which at first would make sense when i say it reboot cycles. It however does not make sense that i can get into download mode and the phone never shuts off until I hit the power button.
It also does not make sense that if i pull the battery out and put it back in the phone does nothing. until i hit the power button. If it were stuck engaged the phone would immediately try to boot when i put the battery back in.
The rom has also been on it for awhile now, 6 months? So i don't exactly remember the processes i went through but i know i never got kies or odin to recognize it. And Yeah, pc wont recognize it now even tryin two different pcs, one of which has never had a samsung device connected to it.
That said I wont rule the power button out either, Is there a good way to check the power button with a multimeter?
I should also say I have the phone apart now so i could at least do external checks of the power button since you both thought it was a possibility, externally it looks fine the actual button inside the case (the little white button the big silver one hits) acts fine but the circuit inside could still be screwed i suppose, which is why i ask about a meter test.
Ultimately I think you're both right though, I'm just going to have order a replacement button and port. Start with the port since it's easier, and if that doesn't enable me to connect it to the pc to flash it try the button too.
Since you mention the ROM, it is possible to have a bad download, flash the ROM, and get into a bootloop. The usual cure for that is a re-download of the ROM, wipe caches, wipe system, and flash fresh ROM.
The sticking power button is a common fault of Samsung phones. Its not broken, but it just gets a little out of alignment in its hole in the bezel. If you already wiggled and snapped, you would have noticed a difference in the phone's behavior, unless there's lint under it.
I think you have your plan -- replace the usb port, and check the button while the phone is without the bezel.
The usb port is on ebay and there is a Youtube video for the process. Everything is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28247335
Good luck.
Thanks for the Help Ranger and 440.
Update; Rangercaptain and 440bro suggested the power switch or the usb port may be the problem.
I dismantled the phone and got my ohm-meter, the power button's circuit is opening and closing as it should between pressed and depressed.
Furthermore I tested the usb port for conductivity at each pin, from the side of the usb cable that would normally connect to the pc all the way through the 'charging flex ribbon' to the phones PCB. all connections are good.
I'm going to try the phone tonight on a friends PC. Who doesn't have another note but at least has a Samsung Gs2 and 3 that connect to Kies and see if i can get it to establish a connection.
If anybody else has any ideas on troubleshooting the connection between the device and a PC i'm all ears.
Good luck!
440bro said:
Good luck!
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Well interestingly, when i hooked it up to the friends pc (using one of the same usb cables i already had) not only did his pc recognize it, the phone also booted up immediately. with 15% battery life remaining.
Strange strange.
Hi,
Any help would be appreciated. My Wife's Nexus 4 has died, an unfortunately she switched off the auto sync of photos. There's a lot of memories stuck on here.
Thought it was the red light of death due to complete battery drain. I've tried hard reset via power + volume down, plugging in charger with while holding power + vol down, leaving it on charge (for several days), disconnect/reconnect battery internally, wireless charging (bought new to fix this), & new battery. None of these has worked.
I've read that the memory is integrated onto the board, so there's no (easy) way to reconnect it.
As none of these has worked. I guess that means I'm ****ed. :'(
My next option was to buy a second hand nexus fully charge the battery, and swap it over, but as the new battery didn't work, I'm not sure if I'll have any luck. I guess it could have been fully discharged when I got it.
Any ideas anyone? My last hope is that I can somehow get onto the card via the PC. When I connect it I get "Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008 (COM3)" in the connected devices. However, I can't access it. Is there anyway to get onto it?
The phone is not rooted, and running vanilla android, 4.4.3 i think.
kashimc said:
Hi,
Any help would be appreciated. My Wife's Nexus 4 has died, an unfortunately she switched off the auto sync of photos. There's a lot of memories stuck on here.
Thought it was the red light of death due to complete battery drain. I've tried hard reset via power + volume down, plugging in charger with while holding power + vol down, leaving it on charge (for several days), disconnect/reconnect battery internally, wireless charging (bought new to fix this), & new battery. None of these has worked.
I've read that the memory is integrated onto the board, so there's no (easy) way to reconnect it.
As none of these has worked. I guess that means I'm ****ed. :'(
My next option was to buy a second hand nexus fully charge the battery, and swap it over, but as the new battery didn't work, I'm not sure if I'll have any luck. I guess it could have been fully discharged when I got it.
Any ideas anyone? My last hope is that I can somehow get onto the card via the PC. When I connect it I get "Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008 (COM3)" in the connected devices. However, I can't access it. Is there anyway to get onto it?
The phone is not rooted, and running vanilla android, 4.4.3 i think.
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So you have what's considered a hard brick. Even if you could get it running again, there wouldn't be any hope of retrieving your info as the attempt would wipe the phone, if the EMMC is even still intact and not wiped out already.
You can try and see if anything here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/wip-unbricking-nexus-4-using-qpst-t2208289 might help or see if you can get it into Download Mode and restore with the LG tool, but either way, if it does work, it will get it booting, but everything should be wiped clean including internal storage.
es0tericcha0s said:
So you have what's considered a hard brick. Even if you could get it running again, there wouldn't be any hope of retrieving your info as the attempt would wipe the phone, if the EMMC is even still intact and not wiped out already.
You can try and see if anything here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/wip-unbricking-nexus-4-using-qpst-t2208289 might help or see if you can get it into Download Mode and restore with the LG tool, but either way, if it does work, it will get it booting, but everything should be wiped clean including internal storage.
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Thanks for the info. Useful to know that if I tried that I'd wipe the data!
Its still under google warranty, so I don't need to get it working. They're willing to send out a replacement, but it's the data that I need, or at least attempt to recover. Although I'll probably end up voiding the warranty (have done so already with the battery swap!)
Has anyone came across JTAG connection to read the phone? It requires getting to the hardware... Anyone know of anyone in the UK that can offer this service?
Thanks
Has anyone any experience with fonefunshop?
They will attempt the process of a JTAG connection to read the data for £25....
I started to restore to a back-up I made two days ago in TWRP and I think it got interrupted by my accidentally canceling it. I was on my way out the door and wasn't paying attention and must've touched the screen (phone in hand).
Now it behaves much like cadcamaro's description in his recent post about having tried to install a Z2 ROM. I can get into FastBoot, but all options simply shut down the phone. If I don't choose an option, it shuts down by itself after a a minute or so.
Power + Volume Down gets a short vibration.
When I plug it into the PC, Power + Volume Up Gets me a blue LED that stays lit, but the PC (and Flashtool) doesn't see it.
Power + Volume Down gets an orange, then green LED with vibration that repeats.
The first time I realized it was screwed up, I did get into Recovery. I tried to re-run the back-up (which is saved to external SD), and it shut down.
Thanks, all.
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I started to restore to a back-up I made two days ago in TWRP and I think it got interrupted by my accidentally canceling it. I was on my way out the door and wasn't paying attention and must've touched the screen (phone in hand).
Now it behaves much like cadcamaro's description in his recent post about having tried to install a Z2 ROM. I can get into FastBoot, but all options simply shut down the phone. If I don't choose an option, it shuts down by itself after a a minute or so.
Power + Volume Down gets a short vibration.
When I plug it into the PC, Power + Volume Up Gets me a blue LED that stays lit, but the PC (and Flashtool) doesn't see it.
Power + Volume Down gets an orange, then green LED with vibration that repeats.
The first time I realized it was screwed up, I did get into Recovery. I tried to re-run the back-up (which is saved to external SD), and it shut down.
Thanks, all.
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Have you tried pressing and holding the reset button next to the SIM tray? Try holding it down for 2+ minutes and see what happens.
Have you tried pressing and holding the reset button next to the SIM tray? Try holding it down for 2+ minutes and see what happens.
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Thanks for responding, BladeRunner.
I just tried that in a variety of ways, and got either no response or it simply did what it was doing. I'll explain;
Believing the phone to be OFF, nothing happens for 2 1/2 minutes of pressing the Reset button.
Same goes for a variety of combinations of switches also depressed, such as Volume Up/Down, Power, or any combo therof.
(At this point, I'm uncertain if I even have much of a charge in the phone.)
FastBoot is the menu that has the green Droid with a choice of 4 options, including Power Down, Continue to Power Up, Factory Reset, and something else, correct?
The one time that I did get that to appear during these last few attempts to use the Reset switch, the menu simply shut down after 15 seconds. I continued to press the reset switch, but nothing happened.
Plugged into the PC, the phone continued to cycle Power-On every 8 seconds, with the Orange LED followed by the Green, then Shut-Down. (Apparently, as without the screen on I have no idea what it's really doing....)
Plugged into PC, Power Button in and Volume Up gives me the Blue LED that stays on constantly, but depressing the Reset Switch does nothing.
As I stated earlier, I have no idea how much charge the phone has, so I'm leaving it on the PC in the Blue LED state. It may not be charging, but all it does when I try to charge it any other way is cycle through every 8 seconds with the Orange & Green LED.
Sigh... This would be the first phone I've ever bricked, and I've been messing around since Vivo on the V3m, and always very careful. Sucks since this has been my favorite of them all.
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Thanks for responding, BladeRunner.
I just tried that in a variety of ways, and got either no response or it simply did what it was doing. I'll explain;
Believing the phone to be OFF, nothing happens for 2 1/2 minutes of pressing the Reset button.
Same goes for a variety of combinations of switches also depressed, such as Volume Up/Down, Power, or any combo therof.
(At this point, I'm uncertain if I even have much of a charge in the phone.)
FastBoot is the menu that has the green Droid with a choice of 4 options, including Power Down, Continue to Power Up, Factory Reset, and something else, correct?
The one time that I did get that to appear during these last few attempts to use the Reset switch, the menu simply shut down after 15 seconds. I continued to press the reset switch, but nothing happened.
Plugged into the PC, the phone continued to cycle Power-On every 8 seconds, with the Orange LED followed by the Green, then Shut-Down. (Apparently, as without the screen on I have no idea what it's really doing....)
Plugged into PC, Power Button in and Volume Up gives me the Blue LED that stays on constantly, but depressing the Reset Switch does nothing.
As I stated earlier, I have no idea how much charge the phone has, so I'm leaving it on the PC in the Blue LED state. It may not be charging, but all it does when I try to charge it any other way is cycle through every 8 seconds with the Orange & Green LED.
Sigh... This would be the first phone I've ever bricked, and I've been messing around since Vivo on the V3m, and always very careful. Sucks since this has been my favorite of them all.
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I'm not sure what fastboot mode on the z3v looks like honestly, but your description sounds about right. You could try getting into xz dual recovery again and wiping the cache maybe? The instructions to there are in the xzdr thread. If you can get there wiping, a factory reset or flashing something might work but failing that you might want to try letting the battery drain all the way down. If you just let your phone sit that can take a while ( days at least) or you use a rubber band to hold down the poet and volume down button, I believe, to drain the battery. Once its dead completely connect it to your PC and see what happens.
A failed flash on a eeprom can be a hard thing to recover from, sometimes it can ruin the eeprom preminently, depends on the state the eeprom was in in the flash process,usually in erase process it will not be recoverable. . Removing power will not reset the eeprom, eeproms are preminent memory, but it can allow the device to be discovered again hopefully.
You have to get something to erase and flash again, if the eeprom is in a failed state that may be impossible to do.
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A failed flash on a eeprom can be a hard thing to recover from, sometimes it can ruin the eeprom preminently, depends on the state the eeprom was in in the flash process,usually in erase process it will not be recoverable. . Removing power will not reset the eeprom, eeproms are preminent memory, but it can allow the device to be discovered again hopefully.
You have to get something to erase and flash again, if the eeprom is in a failed state that may be impossible to do.
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So I'm assuming the eeprom is like an order of operations & file allocation index or something really basic upon which everything else is built? This is an old school term for file index, right?
So even if I manage to get everything wiped, I need to start fresh by installing the stock ROM that the phone came with and progress to where I can load the saved Back-Up that's on the External SD?
If the eeprom gets wiped as it's re-written from the Back-Up, and interruption blew this process mid-wipe, will my Back-Up still be useable?
How is it that battery drain will help my device become recognized by the PC?
Thanks for all the help.
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So I'm assuming the eeprom is like an order of operations & file allocation index or something really basic upon which everything else is built? This is an old school term for file index, right?
So even if I manage to get everything wiped, I need to start fresh by installing the stock ROM that the phone came with and progress to where I can load the saved Back-Up that's on the External SD?
If the eeprom gets wiped as it's re-written from the Back-Up, and interruption blew this process mid-wipe, will my Back-Up still be useable?
How is it that battery drain will help my device become recognized by the PC?
Thanks for all the help.
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Correct. Your backup is safe as long as you don't mess with sdcard storage. You have to get the eeprom healthy before you can do a recovery.
Back to working on my bricked Z3v...
Plugged into PC with Volume-Up held in yields solid Blue LED. This is the only time that in Windows 8.1 Device Manager that the phone shows up as a connected device. The name of the device is "S1 Boot Fastboot", for which there is no driver installed. When I navigate to Z3-lockeddualrecovery2.8.23-RELEASE.combined / files / adbdrivers and try to install the driver, Windows says "Windows could not find driver software for your device."
However, in the "Events" tab it shows three previous dates that the device was configured. It listed the device as such "Device USB\VID_0FCE&PID_0DDE\BH900JCL1N was configured." on those dates.
Was there something different I had to do for Windows 8? I cannot remember, but this feels familiar.
Driver Name: Google, Inc. (WinUSB)...
Status: Install failed
Meanwhile other drivers do install. What gives?
Well I was hoping for a bit more. Extremely frustrated right now as it took me about 15 minutes just to get here to see that nobody can help.
In the meantime with all the **** I've downloaded trying to fix my phone, I've completely scxrewed my computer. 4 virus scans later and I'm still f'd.
Great.
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Well I was hoping for a bit more. Extremely frustrated right now as it took me about 15 minutes just to get here to see that nobody can help.
In the meantime with all the **** I've downloaded trying to fix my phone, I've completely scxrewed my computer. 4 virus scans later and I'm still f'd.
Great.
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Your phone is toast and the only way to get it back is through the Flashtool imo. It wouldn't be common for many to have your circumstances with a bricked phone so you aren't getting much feedback. See if you can follow these instructions with Flashtool that I posted. I've gone from 4.4.4 to 5.02 non-rooted and back to root on 4.4.4 and then forward again so it has worked well for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63800685&postcount=8
See if you can download the 4.4.4 firmware after getting flasthool 09.18.6 installed. Granted my instructions are from Windows 10 64 bit but it should work.
Couldn't do any of it. My PC is s screwed up, but even in Safe Mode I was unable to load drivers that would recognize my z3v.
So I'm typing this on my replacement phone that came today via FedEx. I was very nervous about getting a refurb, but this one really is like new. I managed to get the glass protector of the old one, rinse it off, and apply it to the new one.
Now I'm on unrooted kitkat.
If I root and install TWRP, can I simply flash my saved lollipop backup from my SD card and make this phone exactly like the other one was before I borked it?
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Couldn't do any of it. My PC is s screwed up, but even in Safe Mode I was unable to load drivers that would recognize my z3v.
So I'm typing this on my replacement phone that came today via FedEx. I was very nervous about getting a refurb, but this one really is like new. I managed to get the glass protector of the old one, rinse it off, and apply it to the new one.
Now I'm on unrooted kitkat.
If I root and install TWRP, can I simply flash my saved lollipop backup from my SD card and make this phone exactly like the other one was before I borked it?
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I wouldn't recommend that. I have used titanium backups before from one device to another and it worked. The whole system from a twrp backup really doesn't sound like a good idea.
OK. Think I'll just be patient and do it from scratch. Have to get the computer cleaned up first.
Really glad to have a clean, new z3v back again, but this ordeal has certainly impacted my confidence doing this stuff.
Thanks for your help, everyone.