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Hi everyone who see's this. I have recently changed battery to a new one as my old one broke. Since then, my battery seems to go down fairly quick when im using it but uses hardly anything when on standby. When it goes down, I leave it and the percentage goes upwards abit, such as from 100% down to 40% then up to about 65%. This annoys me because I dont know what my real percentage is. Does anyone know why this happens and does anyone know any suggestions? Would like it if anyone could help Thanks
danielk0302 said:
Hi everyone who see's this. I have recently changed battery to a new one as my old one broke. Since then, my battery seems to go down fairly quick when im using it but uses hardly anything when on standby. When it goes down, I leave it and the percentage goes upwards abit, such as from 100% down to 40% then up to about 65%. This annoys me because I dont know what my real percentage is. Does anyone know why this happens and does anyone know any suggestions? Would like it if anyone could help Thanks
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Thats what happens when you charge your phone . ROFL... Jokes aside it it prety simple.
Basicaly (Very Basic) the Batter level is monitored by checking voltage levels by some fancy hardware. now when you have a high current(power) draw for a a short burst the battery voltage will drop but recover once the phone goes back onto a lower power mode. some batteries recover fast. some recover slowly.
now most of this will get filtered but sometimes it is too much for the chips so they say it was lower than it really was.
my phone does this all the time. and the correct battery level is what ever it is saying at the time it is just that the battery has recovered from the high current draw. (so has more "capacity" left)
hope that wasn't too confusing...
Pvy.
Ha that made me laugh, I never thought thats what happens when it charges ;D
Thanks, it never used to really happen with my old battery but as long as its not fully abnormal, i wont delete battery stats or anything.
BTW nice to see you back, I havnt seen your posts in a while. I liked and used the TEAM rom, what happened with it? Are you working on new ROMS for new phones now so theres no room for X10? Thanks ;D
danielk0302 said:
Ha that made me laugh, I never thought thats what happens when it charges ;D
Thanks, it never used to really happen with my old battery but as long as its not fully abnormal, i wont delete battery stats or anything.
BTW nice to see you back, I havnt seen your posts in a while. I liked and used the TEAM rom, what happened with it? Are you working on new ROMS for new phones now so theres no room for X10? Thanks ;D
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I'm always around been to busy to do anything. Have been helping ppl out where I can with there mods / Roms. Not had time for our own stuff yet. thanks for the kind words.
Pvy
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Hi,
I bought a brand new "Chinese" battery of 2430 mAh because my stock battery was lasting nothing. My stock battery I must admit I did not take proper care of it, I pretty much charged it every time I had a chance, without waiting for it to be empty, so I thought the battery was just bad because I took bad care of it.
With this new battery, the first thing I did, was do a complete wipe out of my device. I cleaned the internal and external storage (formatted the internal storage and I got rid of all pictures and crap from the external sd) and I did a fresh install of the RootBox rom with fluxi kernel.
The problem is, battery drainage is still a huge issue with a fresh rom install.
Just leaving the phone sitting on my desk for an hour (not actually using it), drained the battery about 10%.
Could this be an electrical issue with my phone? Is this ROM related?
I've heard most people can make their phone with regular usage, last for at least 10 hours. Mine barely survives 4 hours with normal usage.
I look forward to any recommendations or tips on how to fix this problem.
Thank you!
nmuntz said:
I've heard most people can make their phone with regular usage, last for at least 10 hours. Mine barely survives 4 hours with normal usage.
I look forward to any recommendations or tips on how to fix this problem.
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There's no such thing as "regular usage" or "normal usage".
You may not believe this, but surprisingly you're not the first person to complain about battery life. If you bother to search (it's the very first rule of the site), you'll soon find what's recommended to others in order to track down what might be using up your power.
Good luck.
oinkylicious said:
There's no such thing as "regular usage" or "normal usage".
You may not believe this, but surprisingly you're not the first person to complain about battery life. If you bother to search (it's the very first rule of the site), you'll soon find what's recommended to others in order to track down what might be using up your power.
Good luck.
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I know i'm not the first (nor I'll be the last one) complaining about battery life. I have tried hundreds of suggestions on how to improve battery life but I think my situation is a bit unique and different. We are talking about a brand new battery, with almost double the size as the original stock battery, a fresh rom install, and the battery draining 10% of its juice while sitting on a desk without even turning the phone on.
I would like to know if this is normal, if it could be an electrical issue, something wrong with the internals of the phone, or is it a software issue, etc.
Thanks!
nmuntz said:
I would like to know if this is normal, if it could be an electrical issue, something wrong with the internals of the phone, or is it a software issue, etc.
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If you're asking whether it's normal to try and justify yourself as having a unique problem, then yes, it seems it is. You're not unique, and it would be impossible for anyone to answer your question accurately with the minuscule amount of useful information you've given.
By the way, just because a battery claims to be 2430mAh, doesn't mean it is, and judging by my first few results on eBay searching for that ... well, yeah, right, I wouldn't expect it to be much more than 1400, if that.
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By the way, just because a battery claims to be 2430mAh, doesn't mean it is, and judging by my first few results on eBay searching for that ... well, yeah, right, I wouldn't expect it to be much more than 1400, if that.
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I agree with this. You need to get a name brand battery, or an official samsung one to be sure about the stated and actual mah of the battery. I have two anker 1900mah batteries and I believe they are very close to that
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Hey guys
On the weekends I'm usually home and I do use my phone quite a bit..but I'm mostly sitting at my computer doing so.
Is it better for me to keep the phone plugged in or should I be letting it drain? I heard that large drain cycles are not good for the battery and will wear it out faster...I've learnt that with my original Samsung battery...I have an extended one, now.
I've searched around...some people say one thing, others say the opposite...so what's the deal, really?
Thanks,
Elliott
The battery is desinged to be drained, you can always use your device plugged in when you are about to run outta juice.
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Right...but if I'm going to be texting constantly on the phone...is it better to just leave the phone on charge while I'm using it, or keep draining it/charging it back up?
As I said, use it.
If battery is low, just charge it while you do.
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Thanks.
Anyone else have any info on this?
Elliott
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There was an article on XDA a while ago about the battery in mobile phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168036
Summary:
It doesnt matter if you keep it plugged in or not. It will do no damage to it.
What you shouldn't do with this kind of battery is draining it to 0% like some people suggest. In fact it is better to keep it charged above 40% to maximize the lifetime of your battery.
Here is also an other thread about it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914417
Thanks for the threads.
The first and 2nd threads you posted through, seem to contradict each other.
The first thread said
Hence constantly recharging a lithium ion battery does not shorten the battery life more than normal usage would. Avoid letting it sit on empty for too long; instead, keep it charged-up if you can.
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Avoid keeping your battery at 100%: Every source I referenced for this guide said the same thing about keeping your battery at a full capacity, but oranageinks.com explains [...]
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lol, we gotta get a lithium battery Ph.D here
I never let my battery die on me, I only do it once to get rid of fuel gauge (although some say that it fixs it on it own after three days or so) whenever I flash a new ROM.
I always let it frain to 15 % or something like that.
Starholdest said:
Thanks for the threads.
The first and 2nd threads you posted through, seem to contradict each other.
The first thread said
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It doesnt really contradict each other. They warn you about heat that is bad for your battery when charged to 100%. Keeping your phone at 100% in a hot enviroment does more damage then having it at 40% in the same enviroment. The same applies to running an app that keeps your cpu running constantly thus heating up your phone.. But in normal circumstances it shouldnt do harm.
It sounds like someone is obsessed about their battery not being at 100% all the time.
Charging and discharging your battery shortens it's life. This is the way it was designed.
Chill, it's just a phone, not an artificial heart
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Lennyz1988 said:
It doesnt really contradict each other. They warn you about heat that is bad for your battery when charged to 100%. Keeping your phone at 100% in a hot enviroment does more damage then having it at 40% in the same enviroment. The same applies to running an app that keeps your cpu running constantly thus heating up your phone.. But in normal circumstances it shouldnt do harm.
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Well I think they clearly contradict each other...one says to keep your battery charged up, the other says not to keep it at 100%...
I understand about the heat degrading batteries...but that's another discussion completely.
Anyone else have any opinion?
f-r said:
It sounds like someone is obsessed about their battery not being at 100% all the time.
Charging and discharging your battery shortens it's life. This is the way it was designed.
Chill, it's just a phone, not an artificial heart
Sent from my digital submersible hovercraft.
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I wouldn't call myself obsessed...I'm just wondering if leaving it plugged in for a good portion of the day will reduce it's life. Because I did that with my original Samsung battery and it's barely usable for me now...just wondering if leaving it plugged in for long periods of time diminished it's life over a year and a half.
I think batteries don't like to be plugged all the time.
For what i've read in the last 4 years nobody knows exactly what's good and what's not for them.
You be the judge.
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Hello
So my GS2's battery was seriously getting crappy, and I ordered a new original battery (more expensive, but I really wanted it to work properly). Before the replacement, it was all over the place, and I think I may very well have a phone that's seriously confused about its battery options.
Thing is, after the replacement the phone isn't charging the new battery properly (AFAICT). If I'd have to venture a guess, I'd say it charges it to 33% and then it states 100% full.
So, I get just a handful of hours of regular on-time with this new battery. Sometimes the phone hard-dies when saying about 50% remaining, other times it actually says something like 2% remaining, then dies, but still awfully far from logical, considering the fresh battery replacement.
I've searched for how to calibrate this thing, and most results simply recommend the "fully deplete, then fully charge, extract, reinsert, etc." method.
However, this does nothing to help me.
I read somewhere that for some custom ROMs (Dorimanx kernel?) you could do a more "explicit" recalibration, but I'm not sure if that'd work — as I'm on ParanoidAndroid ATM, and here I don't have such option.
So... Does anyone here know of any more "legitimate" way of recalibrating? I really don't want to buy a new phone, as these days I don't see any phone I really want to buy...
TIA,
Daniel
new batteries require a few charge discharge cycles before they reach max capacity, you may need to leave it on charge for longer than the "charged" info appears.
Sparks9876 said:
new batteries require a few charge discharge cycles before they reach max capacity, you may need to leave it on charge for longer than the "charged" info appears.
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Sparks9876 said:
new batteries require a few charge discharge cycles before they reach max capacity, you may need to leave it on charge for longer than the "charged" info appears.
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Thanks, Sparks, but I've already done this many times. I've had the battery for a couple of months now, but I really need to figure out how to calibrate the phone so that it starts behaving "normally" with my new battery...
Let it die, juice it up while it's off, take the batt for 90 sec when it hits 100% and put it back in?
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No. The whole 'calibrate the battery thing' (and the apps that claim to do it) on the S2 is Kool Aid.
There is no need to calibrate the battery
sorry for my english
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No. The whole 'calibrate the battery thing' (and the apps that claim to do it) on the S2 is Kool Aid.
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beicuxhaven said:
There is no need to calibrate the battery
sorry for my english
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Something definitely needs calibration, and yes, of course it's not the battery itself when buying a fresh original battery does not fix one's battery problems, it must be some battery controller somewhere. I just started a new job, and my CEO has a Galaxy S3 which started having battery troubles. Like me, he replaced the battery, and like me, nothing changed.
In the meantime, my S2 died completely, so problem "solved" I kinda feel retarded for planning on buying a Note 3... Probably ought to run from Samsung devices altogether...
Do battery cases exist in the nexus 6 world?
I've searched a lot and couldn't find any.
I've really had it with the battery life of this phone, a battery case would save me from going back a 6 plus.
Tons of way to optimize battery, most people get a couple days worth and you probably could too with a simple Google search. There's no battery cases for this phone, it's too big and too niche.
Oh, and going back to a 6 plus? Lmao that's like saying "there's something wrong with my Ferrari, if I can't fix it I'm getting a Hyundai"
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Tons of way to optimize battery, most people get a couple days worth and you probably could too with a simple Google search. There's no battery cases for this phone, it's too big and too niche.
Oh, and going back to a 6 plus? Lmao that's like saying "there's something wrong with my Ferrari, if I can't fix it I'm getting a Hyundai"
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Thats in the eye of the beholder
Battery life when you use the phone is pretty bad IMO. It drops pretty fast once it gets below 50%. I highly doubt mods and tweeks will get you the battery life of the 6+, maybe closer to the note 4
joshm.1219 said:
Tons of way to optimize battery, most people get a couple days worth and you probably could too with a simple Google search. There's no battery cases for this phone, it's too big and too niche.
Oh, and going back to a 6 plus? Lmao that's like saying "there's something wrong with my Ferrari, if I can't fix it I'm getting a Hyundai"
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LOL @ nexus 6 as a Ferrari and the 6+ Hyundai. Get off your high horse sir.
I've been to the battery life thread in general. You're talking like there's some magic fix to make this phone match the 6+'s battery life, there isn't. I'm a very heavy user and I accept this phone's battery is average at best, that's why I was looking for a battery case.
LordGrahf said:
LOL @ nexus 6 as a Ferrari and the 6+ Hyundai. Get off your high horse sir.
I've been to the battery life thread in general. You're talking like there's some magic fix to make this phone match the 6+'s battery life, there isn't. I'm a very heavy user and I accept this phone's battery is average at best, that's why I was looking for a battery case.
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Lol stfu with the high horse stuff, you know you're trolling hard when you bring up an iPhone as your only other option on an Android development forum. As for the battery life, do a little research and educate yourself on how to manage efficiency, you can easily get more battery life than the typical 6+
joshm.1219 said:
Lol stfu with the high horse stuff, you know you're trolling hard when you bring up an iPhone as your only other option on an Android development forum. As for the battery life, do a little research and educate yourself on how to manage efficiency, you can easily get more battery life than the typical 6+
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So let me get this, someone references the 6+, and yur reaction is getting your panties all bunched up haha. My apologies, didn't mean to hurt your feelings there
The nexus 6 has obvious battery shortcomings that are well documented in the general section, one thread has over 200 pages of complaints. If you're such a guru why don't you go there and share your 'optimizations' so we all can benefit from it? Do they include turning off the phone? Lol
Anyways I got what I needed from this thread, no battery cases available. Thanks everyone.
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So let me get this, someone references the 6+, and yur reaction is getting your panties all bunched up haha. My apologies, didn't mean to hurt your feelings there
The nexus 6 has obvious battery shortcomings that are well documented in the general section, one thread has over 200 pages of complaints. If you're such a guru why don't you go there and share your 'optimizations' so we all can benefit from it? Do they include turning off the phone? Lol
Anyways I got what I needed from this thread, no battery cases available. Thanks everyone.
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Nah I'm still calm but I guess it is on me for feeding you trolls. That thread has a bunch of people with great battery life as well because they know how google works. As I said, you should try reading it.
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Thats in the eye of the beholder
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Or the beer holder...
LordGrahf said:
So let me get this, someone references the 6+, and yur reaction is getting your panties all bunched up haha. My apologies, didn't mean to hurt your feelings there
The nexus 6 has obvious battery shortcomings that are well documented in the general section, one thread has over 200 pages of complaints. If you're such a guru why don't you go there and share your 'optimizations' so we all can benefit from it? Do they include turning off the phone? Lol
Anyways I got what I needed from this thread, no battery cases available. Thanks everyone.
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if you think battery life is bad with this device, then i dont recommend trying a LG G3 or LG G Flex 2, they have horrible battery life, like maybe 2 hours screen on time if your lucky. the G2 had the best IMO. so coming to the Nexus 6 was a pleasant surprise when i get around 4-5 hours of SOT
I'm pretty content with that battery life. Google made changes in 5.1 kernel to improve it some more by turning off a Qualcomm "feature" and just having the 4 cores on all the time. My wife has the 6+ with a mophie case. I personally don't see much difference in battery life between the 2 phones. We both come home from work with about the same amount of battery left. Mine is a little less when I have yo go to a part of the hospital that gets poor reception. I've never thought to myself. OMG I need to bring my cable to work. Just the other day I forgot to charge my phone over night and had 43% left. Plugged it into a 2.1 amp charger while I got ready for work. Hooked it up to my turbo charger in the car and voila. 90% by the time I made it to work 30 minutes later.
I get that the battery life can be piss poor. I haven't done any "optimizations". You can try rooting and installing Franco kernel or some other kernel if you want to give it a shot though. I feel like battery cases are for those worried about battery life while going camping or something. I would just turn on power save mode at that point.
Uhhh really want a battery case, and please don't tell me I don't need it, its my personal opinion.
Same here. I need a battery case, badly. Will get tomorrow a Nexus 6, atm using Note 3 with Zerolemon 10,000mAh battery. I guess I have to build my own, where are those 3D printers...
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Agreed. It's so frustrating to be told that optimization can solve the problem from someone who probably lives under a cell tower and has never needed a 10,000mAh battery. Out here on the fringe, bouncing in and out of service on the farm, my 9,000 mAh on my G3 barely got me through the day. I don't want to have to find a charger at noon or 8 pm, I want a phone that works from 6 am until 10 pm when I get home. I've made huge improvements with optimization, but no tweaking is going to get my N6 past noon on the farm, so don't say that we're silly or unreasonable when we want to duct tape a car battery to our phones to get through the day.
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Agreed. It's so frustrating to be told that optimization can solve the problem from someone who probably lives under a cell tower and has never needed a 10,000mAh battery. Out here on the fringe, bouncing in and out of service on the farm, my 9,000 mAh on my G3 barely got me through the day. I don't want to have to find a charger at noon or 8 pm, I want a phone that works from 6 am until 10 pm when I get home. I've made huge improvements with optimization, but no tweaking is going to get my N6 past noon on the farm, so don't say that we're silly or unreasonable when we want to duct tape a car battery to our phones to get through the day.
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I just ordered a Anker 10,000mAh external battery and I will glue it to the phone protective cover. Let's see how it will work, the battery is smaller than the phone so it will only add some thickness and of course, weight.
traffas said:
Agreed. It's so frustrating to be told that optimization can solve the problem from someone who probably lives under a cell tower and has never needed a 10,000mAh battery. Out here on the fringe, bouncing in and out of service on the farm, my 9,000 mAh on my G3 barely got me through the day. I don't want to have to find a charger at noon or 8 pm, I want a phone that works from 6 am until 10 pm when I get home. I've made huge improvements with optimization, but no tweaking is going to get my N6 past noon on the farm, so don't say that we're silly or unreasonable when we want to duct tape a car battery to our phones to get through the day.
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Sounds like you should stick to phones with a removable battery. Why would you get a phone with a 3220mah embedded battery when the ZL on your G3 wasn't enough? Even if a company did come out with a battery case, which isn't happening, it would never be anywhere near as big as that.
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Sounds like you should stick to phones with a removable battery. Why would you get a phone with a 3220mah embedded battery when the ZL on your G3 wasn't enough? Even if a company did come out with a battery case, which isn't happening, it would never be anywhere near as big as that.
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As someone who is eagerly waiting battery case I agree, if a G3 battery with ZL extended case is not sufficient neither will a battery case. Battery cases charge significantly slower than charging them through the wall. I had one for my m8 and Nexus 5.
md1008 said:
As someone who is eagerly waiting battery case I agree, if a G3 battery with ZL extended case is not sufficient neither will a battery case. Battery cases charge significantly slower than charging them through the wall. I had one for my m8 and Nexus 5.
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Not to mention you lose 30% of the capacity of the case just through the inefficiencies of USB charging. So he would need a ~7500mah battery case to really have a comparable capacity overall. Which has never been made before for any phone with an embedded battery AFAIK.
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Not to mention you lose 30% of the capacity of the case just through the inefficiencies of USB charging. So he would need a ~7500mah battery case to really have a comparable capacity overall. Which has never been made before for any phone with an embedded battery AFAIK.
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He said that he gets crap service, which does impact battery life. Perhaps looking into another carrier. Verizon and At&t tend to have better coverage. If the price is a deterrent then he should look into an MNVO and probably stick with the g3
I don't understand how people aren't able to get through a day on a single charge (unplugging around 8am) when I'm able to do it with ease working 8-10hrs while my phone is constantly searching and jumping between no signal and poor 3g/LTE. Having Wi-Fi helps but I'm able to get through the day without it while at work. It was no different with the Note 2, original Moto X, and G3 over the past 2 years.
If you're on the fringe of service areas, perhaps consider a range extender? If you get poor reception where you spend most of your time on a daily basis, perhaps consider a different carrier? It's unfair to complain about battery life because all phones will suffer if you're usually in areas where your carrier doesn't provide good coverage. Other than that, consider a different phone that better suits your needs (i.e. removable batteries) as suggested above or invest in a portable charger. I rarely ever need to use my portable charger but I always have it with me. With larger capacities in slimmer form factors at lower prices, there really is no excuse for a power user to not have one.