Track stolen phone if turned off?? - AT&T HTC One (M8)

I believe my girlfriend's phone (verizon M8) may have been stolen, and also turned off, or put into airplane mode. I can not find any info about options for tracking it down if it doesn't have service currently turned on. She says it was taken from a desk in her office. She called the phone immediately but it was on silent. A few moments later, it started going straight to voicemail, and has been ever since (since yesterday afternoon). The phone had 3/4 battery. No luck with Device manager either, since it must be either off or in airplane mode. Only thing we can think of is that it either somehow got destroyed, turning it off, or someone stole it and placed it in airplane mode. She had no password protection, which makes this all quite scary that someone could be going through all of her info on the phone.
Any advice is highly appreciated.

cgibsong002 said:
I believe my girlfriend's phone (verizon M8) may have been stolen, and also turned off, or put into airplane mode. I can not find any info about options for tracking it down if it doesn't have service currently turned on. She says it was taken from a desk in her office. She called the phone immediately but it was on silent. A few moments later, it started going straight to voicemail, and has been ever since (since yesterday afternoon). The phone had 3/4 battery. No luck with Device manager either, since it must be either off or in airplane mode. Only thing we can think of is that it either somehow got destroyed, turning it off, or someone stole it and placed it in airplane mode. She had no password protection, which makes this all quite scary that someone could be going through all of her info on the phone.
Any advice is highly appreciated.
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Youre probably out of luck. If anyone wiped it and uses a new google account then google wont track it under your girlfriends account.
Probably need to notify Verizon and wait until someone tries to activate it.

chevyjohn01 said:
Youre probably out of luck. If anyone wiped it and uses a new google account then google wont track it under your girlfriends account.
Probably need to notify Verizon and wait until someone tries to activate it.
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She has insurance so isn't a giant deal if someone wipes it. Much more worried about stolen pictures, info, etc. As far as I can tell, if they have it in Airplane mode, they have free reign to view everything in her phone. Have already notified Verizon and will be filing a police report as well.

Not sure what her office atmosphere or security is like. But unfortunately its not an uncommon event where thieves walk around office buildings pretending like they work there, and steal laptops, phones, etc. To gain entrance, they will even "piggyback" behind an employee, after the employee has swiped their security badge at an entrance. Which is why my building is strict about checking the badge of anyone that tries to piggyback behind you, if you don't recognize them.
Although of course it also possible it was stolen by someone that works in the building.
I'd absolutely report to Verizon, so they can blacklist the phone (does Verizon do that?). And report to the building management/security. They might have security camera footage, or at least get the word out to the office that a thief is around.

redpoint73 said:
Not sure what her office atmosphere or security is like. But unfortunately its not an uncommon event where thieves walk around office buildings pretending like they work there, and steal laptops, phones, etc. To gain entrance, they will even "piggyback" behind an employee, after the employee has swiped their security badge at an entrance. Which is why my building is strict about checking the badge of anyone that tries to piggyback behind you, if you don't recognize them.
Although of course it also possible it was stolen by someone that works in the building.
I'd absolutely report to Verizon, so they can blacklist the phone (does Verizon do that?). And report to the building management/security. They might have security camera footage, or at least get the word out to the office that a thief is around.
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It's a well known engineering firm, which makes it so crazy that someone in her office would do that. She has had half the office helping her out with no one able to find anything. No one can get in the office without a badge, as you said. Unfortunately, the only security cameras are in the staircase, not the room she was in. I just can't imagine a fellow employee would risk their career on this, but no other scenario really makes sense to me.
Verizon has flagged the phone already, so that's good.

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Dealing with TMO

I'm coming off the HD2 which other than WM never had a problem with, it was fully rooted running the latest Android builds.
I got the Amaze over the weekend and switched sims. I don't live in a particularly good area for tmo coverage so fired up the wifi and everything seemed good till I'm at work on Monday, no 4g or any data coverage. Called Tmo, incredibly frustrating experience dealing with their automated attendant, here's a tip, just keep telling it you want to UPGRADE, once it thinks you want to spend money it will pop you to a rep. So the rep tells me I need the new sim, ok, it's at home so when I get back pop that in, call 611, 15 minutes of dealing with the auto attendant, multiple I'm hanging ups until I say that magic word "upgrade". Get the sim activated, wait overnight, no data connection. Call 611 again, "upgrade" ok right over to a rep who tells me I also need a new data plan for $30 which is $6 more than I pay now, so OK what are you going to do the phone doesn't work as is, upgraded to the new data plan and now it does.
Arghh, hope this helps.
If you just say 'Cancel', the automated system will get you over to Customer Loyalty. They are the best group to deal with as they have access to everything and can make deals on phones, etc.
Is there a corporate store near you? I highly suggest you go to the store and try to find someone to speak to in person about your issues. They will resolve them. They can't cancel in the store, but they'd be more than happy to assist you.
I was wondering if T-mo offers employee discounts from other businesses. I have sprint now and will be leaving them soon and I work at Target so sprint gives me 20% off my monthly bill.
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I was wondering if T-mo offers employee discounts from other businesses. I have sprint now and will be leaving them soon and I work at Target so sprint gives me 20% off my monthly bill.
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They do, but I don't know is they offer one for Target. They also offer AAA discounts.
Contact customer care and ask if Target has a discount available.
It's called MCSA and the reps have a list of all the corporate nodes available to customers. Often times your bill cycle will change to match those of the corporate node so that's something you have to bear in mind.
Had the same thing happen to all 3 HD2s that I upgrade from .. all running latest NAND androids
after the same frustration, it's an issue with the network,
finally I called like 4X
and one tech explained, it's going from HD2 (which is WM) to ANDROID (even though it had android on it) so we powered down the WEB(DATA) on my plan, "changed it over", powered down my phone and turned it back on and DATA is working fine since then,
MIND you, it was working fine day one, I also went to work, it was working fine(well i thought since I was online but with wifi) I didn't noticed until like 20 minutes into my drive I got no emails (I get emails from work like every 2mins)
thats when I started calling TMO
***update, (got 3 different contacts)
----on both had frustration, last one, I explained, switch over my web from WM to ANDROID, tech said uh ok, didnt even power down my phone 2 mins later , working fine, so in all took like 10 mins on phone if that and all because of the automated person
Thanks, guys I will have to call and find out. To me that's icing on the cake and not a deal breaker.
EDIT: It's 10% not much but anything is better than none.

"We got hosed Tommy,... We got hosed..."

So, I bought a photon on Craigslist. I'm a firm believer that there are good people in the world as well as bad people. I spoke to the guy on the phone and he was very cordial. When asked, he told me the esn was clean, and that I could call sprint and verify. Upon delivery, his sister told me to call sprint to verify it's clean. I told her it wouldn't be necessary. I figured someone who is out to scam, isn't going to risk losing out on $250. So with that done, I went home. I hopped on checkesn.com and it told me the esn was not cleared. I was in shock, so i decided to sign onto sprint. After some research, I found out that you could figure out if the esn was clear by trying to activate it through the web interface. Same result returned. I called sprint and they told me that the phone was still attached to the account and that I had to ask the owner to release the phone. After I texted the guy, He said it was his mistake, and that he must have given me the wrong photon. He said he would call and have it removed from that account. He texted me back saying that it was cleared. 2 hours later, and it's still not cleared. I don't think that he would go through the rigamaroo of responding to me, if he wasn't planning on resolving this. Now its starting to seem more and more like I'm going to be stuck with a photon for a paperweight... sigh
Signed,
Dumb-dumb
p.s. no, i dont want any prime real estate in the everglades...
Ouch...I wish you the best of luck. At least you know his number and how to get a hold of him. That means you've still got a leg to stand on.
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yeah, knowing myself though, I will find away to get his address from that number... and I can be a very mean and vindictive person. I'm just trying to change...
Maybe it's not his fault and the carrier screwed up. Before jumping to conclusions, I would find out as much info as possible, then if not satisfied, try asking the guy if he'll give you a refund. No need to be "vindictive", that'll only lead to more trouble. Especially if it's not the guys fault. Sounds like he has been trying to help and if he were trying to scam you, he would ignore you. And after all is said and done, if you don't get it resolved then chalk it up as experience. There is some personal responsibility in buying from sites like craigslist and ebay. You stated that the seller told you to call and check the ESN first and you declined. If you would have done so, you wouldn't be in the situation you're in. Seems the blame should not be laid on the seller in the end, but on you for not doing your due diligence.
Sadely, I'm with stonesaber, and trust me, Sprint's computers are not the top of the litter. Take it to the store and see what happens.
It's probably attached to an account with a balance. If it isn't cleared, you have grounds to charge him (obtaining property under false pretense, a felony). Perhaps remind him of this.
Akilldema said:
It's probably attached to an account with a balance. If it isn't cleared, you have grounds to charge him (obtaining property under false pretense, a felony). Perhaps remind him of this.
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I wish I could. I tried calling him this morning to let him know that the phone was still attached to the account. His phone is disconnected. Now I'm starting to find more reasons to act like a neanderthal. Can anyone here tell me if there is a way to find out the balance or status on the line that is attached to this phone?
Did you get it from his house? If not, file a police report. Be nice if it could be resolved without them involved, but I don't know if you can.
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Did you get it from his house? If not, file a police report. Be nice if it could be resolved without them involved, but I don't know if you can.
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No, I met with his sister at a public place. I just called her and she said that she has another phone connected to the account, so this one should not be attached to the account. I read somewhere that you have to wait something like 30 days before you swap esn's ( Don't recall if this applied to vzw or sprint). She said to call sprint and tell them it was a gift, and I wanted to manually activate it. She said if that doesn't work, she would switch out the phone with the one that they originally intended to give me. I just feel like when I try to call her back, her phone will be disconnected as well...
Worst case scenario, I can sell it to someone overseas for them to use with their sim chip... Don't know if anyone would want to pay $250 for it though.
Thats why i always get a copy of ur drivers license ..ALWAYS!! and even try to get the license plate number
Also i never let people come to my house..try to go to them or meet in a public place
Craigslist is like 40% criminals / tweakers / scammers
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I'm starting to see that. I guess I shouldn't have faith in humanity. Out of curiosity, I atttempted to make a phone call with the phone, and it connected me to "Sprint Finance Services", I hung up the phone...
Since it's connected to an account, it'd be easy for you to get that money back via court. Also - Since it can be used on GSM networks, you could configure that and sell it as an unlocked GSM device, recoup some of your losses, if not all.
lucidvtec said:
Thats why i always get a copy of ur drivers license ..ALWAYS!! and even try to get the license plate number
Also i never let people come to my house..try to go to them or meet in a public place
Craigslist is like 40% criminals / tweakers / scammers
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Now I know... Stay away from Craigslist... I called her back, and she said she would get it squared away in an hour. What I find peculiar is that she called the phone she sold me, and apologized, and said she would get it disconnected, if not, she would meet me to give me another phone. I told her I would call her back at 12. She insists that she will give me another phone, should she not be able to remedy the situation with this one. Fingers still crossed.
I hope it works out for ya. Be calm and let her know that if it's not resolved one way or another legal action will be required.. this kind of crap happens all the time. People are bums.
Thanks for the support. Just need everyone to send positive vibes my way!
Not sure on what I can do, but I do work for sprint, pm me the esn/meid and I'll look it up for you
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My faith has been restored!!!! She called back as promised and said the ESN should be good now. Sure enough, I checked it on checkesnfree.com and it says its clean for activation!!! I went on sprint.com and attempted to activate the phone and it went through instead of giving me the normal error message. So ecstatic!!!!
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Not sure on what I can do, but I do work for sprint, pm me the esn/meid and I'll look it up for you
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Thanks for the reply nemanracing, but sure enough, everything has been remedied! One question, which hopefully you can answer. Now that the phone is clear and good to go for activation, is there anyway Sprint will " change their mind" and deactivate the phone? I don't know what this lady did, but it says the esn is clear. Just want to make sure the bill doesnt get tacked onto my account some how.
You definitely won't be held liable for any balance accrued by another individual. If it activates, you should be good to go.
nyckid211 said:
I wish I could. I tried calling him this morning to let him know that the phone was still attached to the account. His phone is disconnected. Now I'm starting to find more reasons to act like a neanderthal. Can anyone here tell me if there is a way to find out the balance or status on the line that is attached to this phone?
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He probably had a throw away phone. After all, didnt you say that he sent his daughter to deliver the phone? Perhaps so that you did not actually see him? Just sayin, if I were selling something like that my daughter would be the last person I would send to do it for me.

[Q] Anyone else having issues with GPS and Google Maps?

I have been noticing that my Google Maps has been crashing on me every time I open it fresh out of memory. I sent a report to Google waiting for an update. I updated to the newest version; I downgraded; I rebooted the phone; tried it on 3G and WiFi; and did different combinations of Locations settings. All the same results. The GPS radio animation comes on and the radius is slightly off and wide. I tried the GassBuddy app, which has a map feature, and the errors are more pronounced. Only good side is this app doesn't crash like Google Maps.
Could this be a defect with my unit? If so, I want a replacement!
Or could this be a firmware issue?
Update...
Short version
After almost 3 hours of talking to different Sprint departments and one repair store over the phone, I was finally able to get a replacement phone. Now the waiting game
Long version
After doing some research, I decided to install an app called GPS Test. I was able to clear and update the AGPS data. Rebooted and opened up Google Maps, and still the same inaccurate location and wide radius, and freezing and ultimately crashing.
As a last resort I did a "Factory data reset", erasing everything I had customized and installed... to no avail. Still the same darn issue, leading me to finally call Spring Customer Care. After telling them and a supervisor that the "nearest" Sprint repair store is too far away for me to visit to have my phone physically looked at (I take public trans and the nearest one would have taken me over an hour to get to), they finally connected me to a Sprint technician.
The Sprint technician was so Yeah that was the face I made. He told to power off my phone and take off my battery. I was like, "Uh... the battery is not removable (at least easily)". And he was like, "Oh it's not. Okay just turn it off". He also said that in order to go to the settings menu, I needed to press the "Menu" button. THE MENU BUTTON! He clearly hasn't been trained with the new HTC EVO 4G LTE, since these phones and native ICS devices don't have menu buttons anymore. I Already knew what type I was dealing with.
He called me back after pushing something over the air on my phone. It updated some profile thing and some other network settings. I thought... great! Maybe that's all it needed.... Nope. Opened Google Maps and same thing happened. GPS not locking and Maps freezing.
At this point, I was 100% convinced that this was a hardware issue unique to my phone. I have been searching online at other forums, and judging by the lack of replies to this post, I'm the only one having issues with this particular HTC model. The technician was convinced that a Sprint repair store will solve the problem. He told me that I needed to take it to a repair store and have it looked at. I told him it's too far of a commute for me. I highly doubt they have the phone on hand, and I doubt they will somehow be able to magically fix a hardware issue. He insisted otherwise anyway and said that he created a ticket for me to explain the issue.
Frustrated, I called the "nearest" Sprint repair store and, once again, explained what's going on and what I've done so far. Again, like all of the other people I talked to, she was like, "Wow, you have the new EVO 4G LTE phone. That's so cool." I rolled my eyes, thinking give me a darn replacement phone... She proceeded to tell me that they don't have those phones in stock (OMG NO SURPRISE) and they don't have any software that would be able to troubleshoot that phone. If they did, they would have done an exchange. So even if I had gone there, I would have just wasted my time. She advised me to call Sprint Customer Care... AGAIN.
Called Customer Care again, gave them the rundown of all the runaround I'm going through, and the guy who picked up said that they understand about my issue, but he advised me that the best way would be to go about this was to go to try another Sprint store... And I'm thinking, wow, so you want me to try a different store that's even further from me, and you honestly think they'll have this phone in stock let alone software to troubleshoot it. I told him um, I highly doubt any other store will give me a different result.
After talking some sense into him, he finally had me talk to an even higher supervisor of some sort. The manager/supervisor said, "Yeah you would need to bring it back to the original store you bought it from... You bought it at RadioShack right?" And I was like "No. no. no. I bought my new phone online, via Sprint? I pre-ordered it. I got my OLD EVO 2 years ago from RadioShack, but not this." He was like, " oh okay I can see that." He finally said that he'll be able to connect me to some Order Processing department. I'm thinking, this better be the final line...
Nope. I was transferred and I was told by this new guy he knew the issue with my phone. He understands that because the technician had deemed it a hardware issue, that he would be able to get my problem resolved. He put yet again on hold, because he was trying to contact the last department, I wanna call it, JUST-GET-ME-REPLACEMENT-PHONE department. After 10 minutes of holding, a very-important-sounding told me that he apologized that I was having issues. He wanted to make sure everybody is enjoying their devices with no interruption. I'm thinking, YES! GIVE ME NON-DEFECTIVE DEVICE please!
After talking with this important guy, he finally assured me that they will be processing a return kit and a replacement phone to be shipped to me. He did say that because the HTC EVO 4G LTE is still not officially out, that I may expect delays. Great... even more waiting.
Did you try ##GPSCLR# or is it ##CLRGPS# one of those two. You need your MSL.
Tried ##CLRGPSX# . Nothing popped up. I tried downloading MSL reader but these types of apps require root. Like I mentioned I used an app called GPS Tools which have options to cler GPS data, but still the same.
At this point I think I've tried every practical steps to try to diagnose and resolvthe issue. I paid over $200 to get this device up and running. If I'm gonna be stuck with it for the next 2 years, I think I deserve all of the promised basic features to be working from day one. No relying on rooting and downloading or applying a third-party fix.
I was just unlucky.
Call sprint to get your msl number. You got the letters mixed up. It's ##gpsclrx#
Sent from my lair.
Thanks for the advise guys. Although I could have bothered to get in touch with Sprint for the millionth time to get my MSL, I decided to just wait for my replacement phone. I wasn't going to hassle them anymore than I have already, and nor was I going to bother rooting the defective item. As much I love rooting and flashing new roms (Mik fan) on my OG Evo, I think I'm going to wait a while to do it on this EvoLTE.
Good news is it came today. Even though they kept saying there's been a hold on the shipment and they have no idea when it would ship out, Sprint shipped it overnight over UPS Tuesday night, and I got it today at 9:30 am Pacific Time. Thank you Sprint! Must be partly due to the fact that the ban was officially lifted.
Genuinely glad I made that move, though. For the indoor test: I used GPS Test app on my replacement phone and the GPS service starts up a whole faster. It's able to connect to more and satellites and therefore get accuracy of up to 20-30 feet. Comparing that to the first phone that would take at least 20 seconds to latch on, and take another 30 seconds to connect to more than 4 satellites. And even then, it would only get an accuracy of at most 90 feet, most of the time it was just way off.
In terms of the Google Maps app, there is no doubt that Google needs to update it for the EVO LTE because there are still some bugs, but alas I don't get it freezing on me anymore while GPS service tries to locate me and eventually crash.
Outdoor test, I get all of these goodies, but 5x faster. Definitely happy I made the switch. I'm new to this city and I need my Maps to be working at all times!
Peace.
Google Maps was updated today. I was having tons of issues with Google Maps, but after today's update it is working 100%!! **** YEAH!!

Need some information, tips/tricks.

So I've been using the Gear S for a few days, and thoroughly enjoyed leaving my Note 4 in the truck or at home for quick errands. But aside from call forwarding I think I'm a bit confused about the functionality of the watch in terms of it as a stand alone device, and don't get me wrong it came through as promised as a stand alone, and I love this thing, the wait was worth it.
But the question is: when paired to my phone as Bluetooth I can not receive calls direct to my Gear S number, unless I'm missing something, but it goes straight to voicemail when I'm connected to my phones, can I set call forwarding to phone from my watch number or just only my phone to my watch? And do I only get text/calls forwarded, or all of my notifications (aside from emails which I know you got to add to the email app.) and does my phone need to stay on while at home?
I studied the crap out of this watch for 2 months before release, but a lot of the information was vague or speculation, then out of no where it dropped and just kind of looking for solid informed information now.
Overall, I'm still on the fence about using it on a plan, not because its come up short on what it promised, but because I'm not sure how often I'll use it. Im mainly just looking for any and all advice/tips to get the most out of this thing thinking maybe I've missed something ...
I justify the At&t $10 a month, because out the gate I saved $100 (Basically a free 10 months of stand alone service) and I do see the beauty of leaving my phone at home sometimes, plus for hitting the gym or taking the dog for a walk, I love my Note phones, but they do take up a lot of pocket real estate, so the watch is a nice feature.
And as far as battery life, I def get more on Bluetooth than as a stand alone, I can easily get a full day with cellular connection, but probably 2+ with just Bluetooth, and those numbers are wifi off/motion off.
Today: 8am - 100% - 12:45pm 92%.
Bluetoothed, Motion on, 19 Apps set to notify, brightness very readable but low.
Chances are I'll keep the cell plan on it, as far as the watch try and pry this thing from my hand ... at least until the Gear S2 drops lol. I'm just looking for any tips or tricks with the watch I might have missed, or maybe stories on how having there stand alone watch has improved your life.
It seems as if they focused too much on locking this watch down so you can ONLY use it with Samsung devices that they ended up with a watch with so much potential.
I thought I would be able to log in to my Google account on my watch and still be able to receive notifications on it. But nope, Samsung can't have us set up the phone temporarily and keep using it without a Samsung device. There's really no justification at this point to have a SIM card on this watch and being charged a monthly plan.
I wish another company would have released this device without the greediness of Samsung.
See I only buy Note series phones, so the locked to Samsung phones doesn't bother me, all the other watch companies would do the same if they weren't only making Android Wear devices and had proprietary software, just like the Iwatch will only run off an iPhone and not a peep will be said about that, people will praise it's old tech and uglymess as the second coming of jesus. Only samsung seems to catch the heat.
Let me reiterate that I'm 1000% happy with this watch, it's beautiful and functional, and the stand alone is great, just looking for a reason to keep it on a data plan in terms of fitting my lifestyle and need, I can see a lot of people needing this feature. The watch will stay on my wrist regardless. Me, I'm trying to justify the contract just to leave my phone in the truck during a shopping trip or to run errands or something. But again it's just $10 so it's not a huge deal.
It really depends on how your going to use it. Everyone is not going to use it the same way.
The price plan was not a concern at all and i was fine with that. I knew I was going to have the plan on it. Mines is mainly used for going on walks or runs. Sometimes i may still bring my phone, sometimes i may not. Felt i was covered either way. Making quick trips to shop, I'm set. Basically an "quick and short insurance policy" for me. Everything else is cool for me, but chances of me using is slim to none. And to do for $10. I'm good with that. It's doing every bit of what I had hoped it would.
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Dmac1984 said:
See I only buy Note series phones, so the locked to Samsung phones doesn't bother me, all the other watch companies would do the same if they weren't only making Android Wear devices and had proprietary software, just like the Iwatch will only run off an iPhone and not a peep will be said about that, people will praise it's old tech and uglymess as the second coming of jesus. Only samsung seems to catch the heat.
Let me reiterate that I'm 1000% happy with this watch, it's beautiful and functional, and the stand alone is great, just looking for a reason to keep it on a data plan in terms of fitting my lifestyle and need, I can see a lot of people needing this feature. The watch will stay on my wrist regardless. Me, I'm trying to justify the contract just to leave my phone in the truck during a shopping trip or to run errands or something. But again it's just $10 so it's not a huge deal.
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Dmac1984 said:
But the question is: when paired to my phone as Bluetooth I can not receive calls direct to my Gear S number, unless I'm missing something, but it goes straight to voicemail when I'm connected to my phones, can I set call forwarding to phone from my watch number or just only my phone to my watch? And do I only get text/calls forwarded, or all of my notifications (aside from emails which I know you got to add to the email app.) and does my phone need to stay on while at home?
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The Bluetooth thing if you forward your calls to GS your phone (on smartphone will ring) If you forward GS calls to smartphone it will ring both numbers. Its how you set up your GS. Think of GS as a house phone. When your home bluetooth/wifi your GS to pair with the smartphone. When you are out and about leaving your phone at home you may forward your calls to bluetooth as well as accept calls from your GS.
I have a Sprint note 4 and a Gear S T-mobile. I will not pay the Sprint plan for the GS the detailed plan does not work for me so T-mobile GS I got. I many never use my GS number on my watch but it's nice having it in case I may need an emergency phone.
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I'm not your average bear boo-boo (Yogie)
Super subjective ...
I see that dilemma as one of extreme subjectivity ...
I carry my phone with me everywhere I go, for the most part. What I discovered today is that if my phone is at home, and I connect my watch to WiFi wherever I am, I can still see missed calls, browse the web, receive and respond to text messages, and view new emails (though there is a weird glitch in there with composing), all of which came to my phone while I was out.
That said, having a mobile plan can certainly be a safety net because it allows calls when you leave your phone somewhere ... and when you're out of WiFi range ... but I can't say for me that's all that much of a problem. When I run to court or have to do quick errands, I'm not usually gone long enough to have to worry all that much about receiving urgent messages -- that's not to say that it isn't convenient to still be able to.
Ten dollars monthly really isn't a lot of money. It's actually kind of a negligible amount. For me, though, it costs a lot more. I threw in a StraightTalk sim because I bought the device at AT&T but have Verizon phone service, and it was pricey, plus it doesn't feel worthwhile to pay 30 bucks for something that I only need as a safety net or a convenience.
I just went through the full specifications of the device via the model-config.xml file on it, and I also started digging through the folders on the device. This thing is nowhere near its potential right now ... but we will have to see what Samsung does with it, and more importantly, what developers do with it. It really is a phone on the wrist and it has a ton of power that isn't being used just yet.

Nokia 7.2 Strange Behavior neither here or there

Back in March, purchased four new Nokia 7.2 phones for the family. Moved the Sims from old to new devices and activated them through my carrier, and all was working fine with all four phones.
Then today, one of them, one that belonged to one of my kids, started behaving really oddly. I should say, some other things started a few days earlier, like some mmorpg aps started telling my kid to use device he made account with, which is what they were doing when trying to log in.
Today, it got stranger. Went to send my same child to a party using my AP to buy the ride and send it to my kids phone. My side showed it was working, but my kids got no notifications what so ever, so made a share link, and sent that which worked.
Once AP showed me they got to their location, waited for the call which was a system we set up to verify they got to where they were supposed to. Call didn't come, which was not normal, so called their phone and also sent a text message. Phone rang and rang first time with no one picking up. Figured maybe they got absent minded, as they were at a party saying bye to their best friend who was moving from the USA. So tried again, to have someone answer who was obviously very angry, and yelled in a language I still have no clue, and then hung up. I immediately believe either they are in trouble, or had their phone stolen, so call their friend who hands my kid their phone and my kid tells me, he tried calling me, but call would not work, just total silence so they called my wife instead to say they were ok. My kid also tells me they still have their phone and it's been on them all this time, so no clue how someone else could have answered their phone.
I decide to try something, and log into my account as all 4 phones are registered to me, and go to see where their phone is located, but was unable to as their phone did not show up, only the other 3 did.
I then try something else and log directly into my kids account to try same thing, except doing so, caused the application to lock up almost every try.
When I finally did log in, did a location find, and every time map refreshed, it either showed my kids location or jumped outside the USA map and locked up. I try making phone ring, a few times, which resulted in getting two text messages in a foreign language with characters I never seen. I even noticed that the two pop up messages were not even in the mms text message ap.
Shortly after, my kid calls me to say his phone location ringer went off once, and wanted to make sure it was me. Only once, out of 6 or 7 tries.
After they got off, their phone showed up on the other account where it was missing earlier, and the location stayed now where my kid was. When they got home, checked the parental so, and saw only one location ring was recieved.
Is their something new, that allows someone to steal services off ones phone? Makes me wonder if we got a used phone.
Reminds me of a neighbor who got arrested for many break-ins several years ago. They would break into homes and steal what people wouldn't miss, but stupidly got caught because the idiot who broke into our house and stole an old tablet packed up in our garage, was only a house down from mine and close enough to connect to our asus router. When I saw the request to connect by a device that should be dead after 4 years boxed up, did a gps and not only shocked to see it in my neighbors home, but the amount of times they went back and fourth between not just our home, but other neighbors as well. Pd was going to call it a civil matter, but quickly changed when I activated the very loud siren sound I had saved as a location ringer. Look on their face was priceless. Anyways, not sure if getting a new sim is in order, or just make the seller replace the phone in question as the whole mess with my kids phone is baffling.

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