Got my AT&T Galaxy Note a few days back and I live in Mission Viejo, CA. I have noticed that most of the time it just displays the 4G icon and other times it has a small LTE under the 4G icon. So... is there such a thing as 4G and 4G LTE?
New to the whole 4G phones... as I came from an iPhone.
When it says 4g your are on on At&ts hspa+ network. If it say 4g and has under it Lte you're in a Lte area.
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Yes, LTE is LTE, otherwise it's HSPA+ (also considered "4G"). When mine shows LTE (which is only when I assume the Fox viewing position) I drop by a couple of bars. Sounds like you are either in a fringe area like me, or you're in a building that is causing LTE signal degradation.
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In addition, if you go Settings > About Phone > Status > "Mobile Network Type" you can also tell what network you are on.
Think I got it. So HSPA is 3G, HSPA+ is 4G and LTE is a better 4G?
technically hspa is 3g hspa+ is 3.5g lte is 4g.
HSPA+ is pseudo 4g- it's really 3.5G with some backend modifications by att(something called enhanced backhaul) to enhance 3G for faster speeds. LTE is tru 4G.
Here is a link to explain the differences in 3G,4G,and LTE.
http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB115951&cv=820#fbid=U9S_RXqCY_R
Is there HSPA+ throughout all of AT&T's network then, just not LTE yet?
Then I am guessing my iPhone 4 was only HSPA (3G) only and not capable of getting HSPA+?
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In addition, if you go Settings > About Phone > Status > "Mobile Network Type" you can also tell what network you are on.
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Hell mine keeps alternating between UMTS and HSPA, no + after it either.
No wonder I get choppy pixelated HD videos on youtube.
My phone is a Bell Galaxy note i717, I recently flashed to the OnlyOne Beta 2.
Phones work perfectly but it is displaying 4G at the signal bar. does 4G = LTE? or idoes 4G = HSPDA+ for Bell?
So basically I want it to stay away from LTE.
I have already done the *#2263# trick to lock it to WCDMA atm, does this lock it away from LTE? Thanks.
I am worried about the battery life taking a hit.
tried search but I can't really find anything.
I just found that it displays either 4G or 4Glte
4G I am guessing would mean HSPA+ right?
thanks
laserbluemini said:
I just found that it displays either 4G or 4Glte
4G I am guessing would mean HSPA+ right?
thanks
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You are correct.
Hey Everyone,
I picked up the Dev version of the Lumia 920 and have been using it for a couple days. Everything has been great except the phone doesn't seem to hit LTE. It stays on 4G. The area I'm in does have LTE and when I put my sim card back into my 900, LTE works fine.
I've spent some time on the phone with Rogers and attempted to reset settings on their side and have even registered the device IMEI with them to no avail.
Does anybody know what I can do to get this to work? I'm fine keeping the phone on 4G but would love to see it on LTE eventually.
Thanks in advance!!
Go into cellular settings and make sure your highest connection speed is set to LTE and not 3G. Also make sure you have your APN set correctly. Without the right APN you won't get any evidence of LTE on the device. Once you set it correctly LTE should magically start working.
I have tried manually inputting the APN for Rogers LTE and that did not work. My sim also has settings programmed which show up and can be selected. The first is Rogers 3G which doesn't work at all and the second is Rogers LTE which makes everything work but only gets me a 4G connection.
The highest connection speed is set to 4G as it doesn't have an LTE option which is similar to how it was on my 900. Upon picking 4G, it should just hit LTE but it doesn't. I've taken the sim out and put it into the 900 and confirmed that LTE does work but when I put the sim back into my 920, I only get 4G.
4G is LTE ...
That's what I initially thought but the phone indicator should actually say LTE instead of 4G. I've checked this on my lumia 900 as well as on other 920's seen around the net.
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That's what I initially thought but the phone indicator should actually say LTE instead of 4G. I've checked this on my lumia 900 as well as on other 920's seen around the net.
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hmm never seen that .. got any screenshots of photo's of a 920 showing this? That would mean I have not been on LTE even once !
For the current signal the Rogers variant shows
3G
4G -- refers to HSDPA etc
LTE -- refers to LTE
I know this because I experienced LTE on AT&T with a Rogers 920. But it didn't start working until I had the right APN.
The options in Cellular Settings for highest speed are 2G, 3G, LTE. Make sure it's set to LTE.
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For the current signal the Rogers variant shows
3G
4G -- refers to HSDPA etc
LTE -- refers to LTE
I know this because I experienced LTE on AT&T with a Rogers 920. But it didn't start working until I had the right APN.
The options in Cellular Settings for highest speed are 2G, 3G, LTE. Make sure it's set to LTE.
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I don't even have LTE as an option in here .. 2G, 3G, 4G.
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Hey Everyone,
I picked up the Dev version of the Lumia 920 and have been using it for a couple days. Everything has been great except the phone doesn't seem to hit LTE. It stays on 4G. The area I'm in does have LTE and when I put my sim card back into my 900, LTE works fine.
I've spent some time on the phone with Rogers and attempted to reset settings on their side and have even registered the device IMEI with them to no avail.
Does anybody know what I can do to get this to work? I'm fine keeping the phone on 4G but would love to see it on LTE eventually.
Thanks in advance!!
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on the dev version of the phone (from MS build, which I also have), 4G is LTE. If you are on 3g you will get an H indicator. It won't say LTE.
Trust me, if it says 4G, it is on LTE. I've done some speed tests, and a few other tests, it really is LTE.
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on the dev version of the phone (from MS build, which I also have), 4G is LTE. If you are on 3g you will get an H indicator. It won't say LTE.
Trust me, if it says 4G, it is on LTE. I've done some speed tests, and a few other tests, it really is LTE.
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thanks! I'll take your word for it. I found it weird that it never said LTE but speeds have been fairly good!
Are you sure '4G' is LTE on the dev version? Speeds alone won't necessarily tell you.
On the Rogers variant, I'm seeing something like this:
'3G' --> non-HSDPA UMTS
'4G' --> HSDPA, HSPA+
'LTE' --> LTE
It's possible for the MO to customize some of these strings and they do it for marketing reasons. On the MS variant I'd expect the indicators to be a default set that are closely tied to the actual technology without any of the marketing-speak, something like
3G -- non-HSDPA 3G
H -- HSDPA
H+ -- HSPA+
LTE -- LTE
I could be wrong.
Where did you guys pick your Dev versions up?
'I guess the real question is, has ANYONE ever seen LTE pop up on the Lumia 920 ?
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'I guess the real question is, has ANYONE ever seen LTE pop up on the Lumia 920 ?
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Did you see my post (3 up from this one)?
pencilcase said:
'I guess the real question is, has ANYONE ever seen LTE pop up on the Lumia 920 ?
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Yes, quite frequently.
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'I guess the real question is, has ANYONE ever seen LTE pop up on the Lumia 920 ?
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I'm using an Unlocked Rogers Lumia 920 on the Telus network in Calgary. At first I assumed seeing 4G on the screen meant I was connected via LTE (the speeds were reasonably fast). However it turns out I just don't have LTE coverage in my house.
I was visiting a friend one day and noticed LTE had popped up, did a speed test and it was significantly faster.
Here are a few speed tests I've done around Calgary using the Free Speed Test app (all numbers in mbps):
my house, 4G: 7 down, 2.75 up (not sure which location I tested against)
friends house, LTE: 12.21 down, 0.88 up (tested against Idaho)
friends house, LTE: 16.56 down, 1.77 up (same physical location as previous test, tested against Seattle)
at work, LTE: 15.16 down, 5.67 up (tested against Seattle)
Next time I'm downtown I'll do more testing there. I would assume the coverage is better as you get closer to city center.
This is my first time having a 4G T-Mobile device. I managed to turn off the 4g, but is there an option to use 3G on these phones? Are 2G and HSPA+(besides wifi)the only options we have?
Juanito216 said:
This is my first time having a 4G T-Mobile device. I managed to turn off the 4g, but is there an option to use 3G on these phones? Are 2G and HSPA+(besides wifi) are the only options we have?
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L9 is not 4G (LTE) device. It seems T-Mobile is giving marginally faster 3G (HSDPA) and calling it as 4G (LTE). L9 does not have LTE hardware at all. Check manual by LG, they never call it 4G device. Seems T-Mobile is trolling with its customers since long time with this term though their speed is good.
I never thought it had LTE. From trying a speed test, the speed was comparable to Sprint wimax. I still call it 4G even if it's not "true 4g". Thanks for the clarification, that's understandable.
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The sad truth is Sprint's wimax and the currently deployed LTE iterations aren't 4G either. T-Mobile's LTE rel. 10 will be 4G.
Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
I've had this issues since I got my S5. TMO only gives me 4Glte and 4G, 2G. No 3G.. I only get 3G on custom ROMS like BlissPop 5.0. Any resolutions?
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I've had this issues since I got my S5. TMO only gives me 4Glte and 4G, 2G. No 3G.. I only get 3G on custom ROMS like BlissPop 5.0. Any resolutions?
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Why would you want 3G?
Having 4GLTE or 4G is a good thing..
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Why would you want 3G?
Having 4GLTE or 4G is a good thing..
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Not when I only get 1 bar of it and full 3G bars from what i've experience on custom ROMS.
I dont think there is even icon for 3G in factory tmobile room. 3G and 4G pretty much fell under 4G. If you want to limit yourself to 3G only you may have to research some other forums with 3G tmobile phones and find older apn setting. They should work with S5 just with limited bands. I remember from my Note 2 days that for a while older apn (4G) worked much faster than newer fast.tmobile lte apn.
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Tmobile does have 3g. What happens is during inactivity the connection falls back to 3g to save battery, and transfer very small amounts of data. When demand calls the connection than hops over to Hspa. Tmobile does this transparently to the end user on most devices. This is what they call there 4g network.
If you use international roms, you'll see the indicator change between 3g and H all the time. Same with the nexus line of phones.