I just upgraded to the droid turbo and my gf is on sprint. I wanted to give her my phone, but I wasn't sure if it was possible. I was thinking I could just SIM unlock the phone and then get a micro SIM card from Sprint and simply activate it in a sprint store. Is this possible or not?
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Nope. Sprint is CDMA only. No Sims.
npjohnson said:
Nope. Sprint is CDMA only. No Sims.
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Um.. I'm confused, sprint does use LTE correct? I've seen sprint SIM cards before. And Verizon also uses CDMA so it has the correct radios.
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graymonkey44 said:
Um.. I'm confused, sprint does use LTE correct? I've seen sprint SIM cards before. And Verizon also uses CDMA so it has the correct radios.
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Yes. Sprint uses LTE, Verizon phones are SIM (GSM) unlocked, but are CDMA locked to Verizon. Even if CDMA was unlocked, it doesn't support the correct CDMA bands. And no. There is no way to hack it in.
If you can get your hands on a Sprint SIM and put it in the VZW S4 and you used NVRAM edits (extremely complicated) to enable the correct LTE bands, it would only get 4G LTE service, not 3G or Voice or SMS service.
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Yes. Sprint uses LTE, Verizon phones are SIM (GSM) unlocked, but are CDMA locked to Verizon. Even if CDMA was unlocked, it doesn't support the correct CDMA bands. And no. There is no way to hack it in.
If you can get your hands on a Sprint SIM and put it in the VZW S4 and you used NVRAM edits (extremely complicated) to enable the correct LTE bands, it would only get 4G LTE service, not 3G or Voice or SMS service.
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All right that makes sense. Thank you for clearing it up with me.
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IM wantin to keep my bad ace note but want verizon service. Can our note be unlocked to be used with verizon?
No verizon is a CDMA carrier and ATT is a GSM carrier.
harley1rocker said:
IM wantin to keep my bad ace note but want verizon service. Can our note be unlocked to be used with verizon?
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No. The phone uses a GSM radio. T Mobile and ATT use the GSM standard, while...
Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular, use a technology called CDMA.
Which is while you'll only really ever see unlocked phones that run on the ATT and T Mobile carrier networks.
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Sorry, don't know where to post this..?
I'm told one of the few Verizon/cdma carrier neutral smartphones is incredible II.. (should work on sprint, at&t, tmobile and various resellers) I'm just wondering if you guys know any more that preferably have more modern hardware.. ?? I prefer plug n' play type stuff.. and ability to use with MVNO's and android
theemaster said:
Sorry, don't know where to post this..?
I'm told one of the few Verizon/cdma carrier neutral smartphones is incredible II.. (should work on sprint, at&t, tmobile and various resellers) I'm just wondering if you guys know any more that preferably have more modern hardware.. ?? I prefer plug n' play type stuff.. and ability to use with MVNO's and android
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Well, CDMA to CDMA will be a little work, is also a legal grey area. But there have been many posts saying that this phone (Droid DNA) works on domestic gsm carriers as well.
People report getting HSPA+ speeds on AT&T and TMo(where refarmed to 1900MHz). You'll only get edge speeds on TMo where they haven't refarmed to 1900MHz yet. So any MVNO based on those carriers should work just fine. You'll obviously have to fiddle with APN settings to get data and MMS to work, but it shouldn't be too hard.
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times_infinity said:
Well, CDMA to CDMA will be a little work, is also a legal grey area. But there have been many posts saying that this phone (Droid DNA) works on domestic gsm carriers as well.
People report getting HSPA+ speeds on AT&T and TMo(where refarmed to 1900MHz). You'll only get edge speeds on TMo where they haven't refarmed to 1900MHz yet. So any MVNO based on those carriers should work just fine. You'll obviously have to fiddle with APN settings to get data and MMS to work, but it shouldn't be too hard.
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If you take a DNA to a GSM based carrier, you may need to root/reflash with a ROM that is customized for GSM in order to get the APN settings to stick for MMS to work. The phone is SIM unlocked out of the box, I made a phone call using my DNA after popping in a T-Mobile card, without any changes at all.
Oh, I don't think the Incredible II will work on domestic GSM carriers, only European/foreign. At least I haven't ever heard of it working. You might want to verify that if you go that route. My parents are in Europe right now, however, and using their Incredible II's successfully, including APN changes for MMS.
Hi,
As stated, CDMA to CDMA takes a little bit of work. But carriers in the Philly area, like Cricket, allow you to bring some Sprint or Verizon devices over, with a reprogramming fee. I have heard of people reprogramming CDMA devices for Virgin Mobile.
The Droid DNA is a good choice.
As far as GSM goes, I have used a Verizon s3 on t mobile, rooted with custom APN. The radio's are different and the VZW s3 on t mobile only gets HSPA+ . I would just get a GSM version.
What carrier are you waiting to use ?
~Hoovie
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thehoovie said:
Hi,
As stated, CDMA to CDMA takes a little bit of work. But carriers in the Philly area, like Cricket, allow you to bring some Sprint or Verizon devices over, with a reprogramming fee. I have heard of people reprogramming CDMA devices for Virgin Mobile.
The Droid DNA is a good choice.
As far as GSM goes, I have used a Verizon s3 on t mobile, rooted with custom APN. The radio's are different and the VZW s3 on t mobile only gets HSPA+ . I would just get a GSM version.
What carrier are you waiting to use ?
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Specifically as I stated.. Verizon and tmobile are the top 2 I wish to use.. I wish to use the resellers page plus/lycamobile
A person who uses page plus and has used lycamobile assures me that the incredible II will swap with ease back n' forth after unlocked sim, (I think he means Verizon incredible 2) I would just like to find some newer hardware like the bionic.. or something made in late 2011 or early 2012.. but the information on bionic is it requires custom roms or certain configurations to run on either platform (aka it's not like you can just do a sim swap)
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If you take a DNA to a GSM based carrier, you may need to root/reflash with a ROM that is customized for GSM in order to get the APN settings to stick for MMS to work. The phone is SIM unlocked out of the box, I made a phone call using my DNA after popping in a T-Mobile card, without any changes at all.
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This. Stupid stock Verizon ROM uses an APN whitelist, the MMS apn type is not included since it is not needed on Verizon's network.
I recommend the NOS M7 ROM or the NOS Google Play Edition ROM, both have a GSM base and work much better on GSM carriers.
The DNA may be fully SIM unlocked out of the box, unfortunately; the stock OS ruins some of the fun.
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thehoovie said:
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As far as GSM goes, I have used a Verizon s3 on t mobile, rooted with custom APN. The radio's are different and the VZW s3 on t mobile only gets HSPA+ . I would just get a GSM version.
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Isn't the GSM version ALSO going to get HSPA+?
You'd need a version that supports T-Mobile's LTE frequencies to do better than HSPA+
I get 1900mhz hspap on an att SIM with my droid Dna on a gsm Rom everything works great
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I get 1900mhz hspap on an att SIM with my droid Dna on a gsm Rom everything works great
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What speeds?
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I have a Verizon SG4 with AT&T SIM working, voice and data. Data is only H+.
How can I get 4G or LTE?
Thank you!
How did you get ATT working? Just pop in the Sim card and enter the APNs? And LTE won't work, Verizon GS3 has Non Att LTE bands.
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How did you get ATT working? Just pop in the Sim card and enter the APNs? And LTE won't work, Verizon GS3 has Non Att LTE bands.
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Yup, just popped in the SIM, went to AT&T store, copied in the APN from a working sg4, and voice and HSPA+ data works.
I have a SG4 not sg3. Doesnt teh SG4 have the same frequency bands?
Here is a tip buy an att phone if you're gonna use att
Lte bands for Verizon and att are different your lte won't ever work on att with a Verizon phone
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Gs4. My bad. Lol. I blanked out for a minute. Lmao. But yes, LTE will never work with an ATT Sim card in a Verizon phone
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ddckylec said:
Yup, just popped in the SIM, went to AT&T store, copied in the APN from a working sg4, and voice and HSPA+ data works.
I have a SG4 not sg3. Doesnt teh SG4 have the same frequency bands?
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I'm thinking about using my Verizon S4 with Airvoice, an ATT mnvo. I don't care about LTE but can you post what the APN settings you entered are ?
So I know this phone has CDMA, LTE, and GSM radios. My question is, does the GSM radio even functional or is it just there if you ever switch carriers to a gsm network? I thought GSM was only on At&t and verizon? I thought sprint was only CDMA?
I am confused about the GSM network. Does it mean that GSM isn't used with sprint but can be since there is a sim card?
I am only on sprint so will i ever need to worry about GSM?
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So I know this phone has CDMA, LTE, and GSM radios. My question is, does the GSM radio even functional or is it just there if you ever switch carriers to a gsm network? I thought GSM was only on At&t and verizon? I thought sprint was only CDMA?
I am confused about the GSM network. Does it mean that GSM isn't used with sprint but can be since there is a sim card?
I am only on sprint so will i ever need to worry about GSM?
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LTE is over GSM. Back when Sprint"s 4G was (the inferior to LTE) WiMax it was accomplished using CDMA. When they adopted the LTE technology phones had to be equipped for GSM either using a SIM or an embedded SIM like in the LGOG. Yes Sprint uses CDMA except for LTE. Clear as mud?
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LTE is over GSM. Back when Sprint"s 4G was (the inferior to LTE) WiMax it was accomplished using CDMA. When they adopted the LTE technology phones had to be equipped for GSM either using a SIM or an embedded SIM like in the LGOG. Yes Sprint uses CDMA except for LTE. Clear as mud?
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So CDMA is for 2g and 3g and lte is for wimax (which is no longer here) and gsm is for true LTE?
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So CDMA is for 2g and 3g and lte is for wimax (which is no longer here) and gsm is for true LTE?
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LTE and Wimax are 2 different 4G technologies. Wimax barely qualifies as 4G. But yes the GSM is part of all LTE tech. Sprint uses CDMA for everything else.
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Thanks man, really appreciate the help!
The GSM capability also allows the phone to be used on GSM networks. Sprint will generally unlock it for use with international carriers (if you're travelling overseas, for example). And there are a few threads here on XDA that purport to tell you how to unlock it for use on domestic carriers.
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The GSM capability also allows the phone to be used on GSM networks. Sprint will generally unlock it for use with international carriers (if you're travelling overseas, for example). And there are a few threads here on XDA that purport to tell you how to unlock it for use on domestic carriers.
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Still waiting for more feedback on this method which I think might be the closest to a true unlock. Using RUIM PREFERRED should allow frequent SIM swaps and back to Sprint again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2985523
Unlock Sprint LS990 for any CDMA carrier!!!
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Unlocked Verizon one max on sprint network with a simple sim swap?
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Unlocked Verizon one max on sprint network with a simple sim swap?
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They're both CDMA carriers and need to be provisioned so probably not.
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It works fine on t mobile.... Does that change anything?
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It works fine on t mobile.... Does that change anything?
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T-Mobile and att are gsm carriers phone may work on both depending on frequencies.
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But sprint is a no go? (thank for the help guys) I know t-mobile and att are similar and Verizon and sprint are similar, but I don't understand the provisioning thing very much... I thought that was an old thing they did before it was all done thru sim cards, as I understand it now, Verizon, t mobile, and at&t assuming the phone is unlocked and has the correct frequencies available, should all be interchangeable? But sprint can't work unless the phone is a sprint exclusive due to provisioning?
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But sprint is a no go? (thank for the help guys) I know t-mobile and att are similar and Verizon and sprint are similar, but I don't understand the provisioning thing very much... I thought that was an old thing they did before it was all done thru sim cards, as I understand it now, Verizon, t mobile, and at&t assuming the phone is unlocked and has the correct frequencies available, should all be interchangeable? But sprint can't work unless the phone is a sprint exclusive due to provisioning?
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Both still run on CDMA lte is for data and some voice only. CDMA I believe is still used for activation. They need to provision or "okay" phones to be used on their network.
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sprint vs verizon
Hello,
may be a little noob question but how can i check if i have verizon or sprint version of one max?
thanks for reply in advance
What service are you on? That would be the best way
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