Unlocked Verizon one max on sprint network with a simple sim swap?
bschmidy10 said:
Unlocked Verizon one max on sprint network with a simple sim swap?
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They're both CDMA carriers and need to be provisioned so probably not.
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It works fine on t mobile.... Does that change anything?
bschmidy10 said:
It works fine on t mobile.... Does that change anything?
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T-Mobile and att are gsm carriers phone may work on both depending on frequencies.
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But sprint is a no go? (thank for the help guys) I know t-mobile and att are similar and Verizon and sprint are similar, but I don't understand the provisioning thing very much... I thought that was an old thing they did before it was all done thru sim cards, as I understand it now, Verizon, t mobile, and at&t assuming the phone is unlocked and has the correct frequencies available, should all be interchangeable? But sprint can't work unless the phone is a sprint exclusive due to provisioning?
bschmidy10 said:
But sprint is a no go? (thank for the help guys) I know t-mobile and att are similar and Verizon and sprint are similar, but I don't understand the provisioning thing very much... I thought that was an old thing they did before it was all done thru sim cards, as I understand it now, Verizon, t mobile, and at&t assuming the phone is unlocked and has the correct frequencies available, should all be interchangeable? But sprint can't work unless the phone is a sprint exclusive due to provisioning?
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Both still run on CDMA lte is for data and some voice only. CDMA I believe is still used for activation. They need to provision or "okay" phones to be used on their network.
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sprint vs verizon
Hello,
may be a little noob question but how can i check if i have verizon or sprint version of one max?
thanks for reply in advance
What service are you on? That would be the best way
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Are we able to use with prepaid cards or tmobile and what not?
nope. US towers are blocked from being used by the photon. Only international sim.
tuxytuxy said:
nope. US towers are blocked from being used by the photon. Only international sim.
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Can this be true?? How can we then roam from tower to tower??
I know my Epic was able to be used with boost mobile, virgin, etc. I wonder why the Photon is not? Hmm..worth looking into I guess.
Out of curiosity, how probable is a usa gsm unlock, I would gladly switch from atrix to photon.
shanghei said:
Out of curiosity, how probable is a usa gsm unlock, I would gladly switch from atrix to photon.
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i agree with this
The USA GSM towers are blocked from being used by the photon. And other CDMA towers are used for roaming.
I'm sure one of the genius devs will make something happen?
ill definitely pay/donate to that mod
Damn if a developer could hack it and make it possible they could make a killing.
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would it work on tmobile 3g/4g bands then
laraiza said:
Damn if a developer could hack it and make it possible they could make a killing.
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If that happens, I will have multiple assgasms.
I know the specs show that it has AT&T LTE bands, but had anybody actually used it on AT&T LTE yet? If so, please report your impressions.
Thanks.
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I'm confused why so many people are worried about unlocking and band compatibility. Get the one from your own carrier !
phositadc said:
I know the specs show that it has AT&T LTE bands, but had anybody actually used it on AT&T LTE yet? If so, please report your impressions.
Thanks.
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Works exactly the same for me using an AT&T SIM in the T-Mobile HTC one. The other way around, I get less HSPA+ service using an AT&T SIM in a T-Mobile HTC One.
KillaHurtz said:
I'm confused why so many people are worried about unlocking and band compatibility. Get the one from your own carrier !
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No. The AT&T one doesn't fully support T-Mobile while the T-Mobile one fully supports BOTH T-Mobile and AT&T.
For people who don't want CDMA-based service, the T-Mobile version is the best one to buy for compatibility.
advocat3 said:
No. The AT&T one doesn't fully support T-Mobile while the T-Mobile one fully supports BOTH T-Mobile and AT&T.
For people who don't want CDMA-based service, the T-Mobile version is the best one to buy for compatibility.
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Are you sure about that, Maybe the AT&T version needs to be unlocked for it to work on T-Mobile's HSPA+ Network. I hope like hell it does because I would like to have the 64gb version working on my Network of choice, T-Mobile of course.
vinnyjr said:
Are you sure about that, Maybe the AT&T version needs to be unlocked for it to work on T-Mobile's HSPA+ Network. I hope like hell it does because I would like to have the 64gb version working on my Network of choice, T-Mobile of course.
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This has been discussed to death on the boards.
All the phones have the same internal radio hardware but what's been flashed to each device is different.
i got a att version unlock, big mistake for tmobile. i flashed tmobile rom and radio. alot of places in new york i get 2G which it was constant 4G with my note 2. Place where i get 4G i only get 7mbps. while with my note 2 i was able to get up to 18mbps. Order the tmobile version will return this one. The only reason i bought this is because they had it locally in ATT store while tmobile htc one is on backorder and not avail in any store.
Unfortunately Samsung doesn't just make the same model for both I would imagine it would save them money also but att phones work slow on T-Mobile but other way around your golden
alinefx said:
Works exactly the same for me using an AT&T SIM in the T-Mobile HTC one. The other way around, I get less HSPA+ service using an AT&T SIM in a T-Mobile HTC One.
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Oops sorry I meant to say that I get less hspa+ svc using a tmobile SIM in an AT&T one.
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I'm told one of the few Verizon/cdma carrier neutral smartphones is incredible II.. (should work on sprint, at&t, tmobile and various resellers) I'm just wondering if you guys know any more that preferably have more modern hardware.. ?? I prefer plug n' play type stuff.. and ability to use with MVNO's and android
theemaster said:
Sorry, don't know where to post this..?
I'm told one of the few Verizon/cdma carrier neutral smartphones is incredible II.. (should work on sprint, at&t, tmobile and various resellers) I'm just wondering if you guys know any more that preferably have more modern hardware.. ?? I prefer plug n' play type stuff.. and ability to use with MVNO's and android
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Well, CDMA to CDMA will be a little work, is also a legal grey area. But there have been many posts saying that this phone (Droid DNA) works on domestic gsm carriers as well.
People report getting HSPA+ speeds on AT&T and TMo(where refarmed to 1900MHz). You'll only get edge speeds on TMo where they haven't refarmed to 1900MHz yet. So any MVNO based on those carriers should work just fine. You'll obviously have to fiddle with APN settings to get data and MMS to work, but it shouldn't be too hard.
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times_infinity said:
Well, CDMA to CDMA will be a little work, is also a legal grey area. But there have been many posts saying that this phone (Droid DNA) works on domestic gsm carriers as well.
People report getting HSPA+ speeds on AT&T and TMo(where refarmed to 1900MHz). You'll only get edge speeds on TMo where they haven't refarmed to 1900MHz yet. So any MVNO based on those carriers should work just fine. You'll obviously have to fiddle with APN settings to get data and MMS to work, but it shouldn't be too hard.
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If you take a DNA to a GSM based carrier, you may need to root/reflash with a ROM that is customized for GSM in order to get the APN settings to stick for MMS to work. The phone is SIM unlocked out of the box, I made a phone call using my DNA after popping in a T-Mobile card, without any changes at all.
Oh, I don't think the Incredible II will work on domestic GSM carriers, only European/foreign. At least I haven't ever heard of it working. You might want to verify that if you go that route. My parents are in Europe right now, however, and using their Incredible II's successfully, including APN changes for MMS.
Hi,
As stated, CDMA to CDMA takes a little bit of work. But carriers in the Philly area, like Cricket, allow you to bring some Sprint or Verizon devices over, with a reprogramming fee. I have heard of people reprogramming CDMA devices for Virgin Mobile.
The Droid DNA is a good choice.
As far as GSM goes, I have used a Verizon s3 on t mobile, rooted with custom APN. The radio's are different and the VZW s3 on t mobile only gets HSPA+ . I would just get a GSM version.
What carrier are you waiting to use ?
~Hoovie
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thehoovie said:
Hi,
As stated, CDMA to CDMA takes a little bit of work. But carriers in the Philly area, like Cricket, allow you to bring some Sprint or Verizon devices over, with a reprogramming fee. I have heard of people reprogramming CDMA devices for Virgin Mobile.
The Droid DNA is a good choice.
As far as GSM goes, I have used a Verizon s3 on t mobile, rooted with custom APN. The radio's are different and the VZW s3 on t mobile only gets HSPA+ . I would just get a GSM version.
What carrier are you waiting to use ?
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Specifically as I stated.. Verizon and tmobile are the top 2 I wish to use.. I wish to use the resellers page plus/lycamobile
A person who uses page plus and has used lycamobile assures me that the incredible II will swap with ease back n' forth after unlocked sim, (I think he means Verizon incredible 2) I would just like to find some newer hardware like the bionic.. or something made in late 2011 or early 2012.. but the information on bionic is it requires custom roms or certain configurations to run on either platform (aka it's not like you can just do a sim swap)
jasoraso said:
If you take a DNA to a GSM based carrier, you may need to root/reflash with a ROM that is customized for GSM in order to get the APN settings to stick for MMS to work. The phone is SIM unlocked out of the box, I made a phone call using my DNA after popping in a T-Mobile card, without any changes at all.
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This. Stupid stock Verizon ROM uses an APN whitelist, the MMS apn type is not included since it is not needed on Verizon's network.
I recommend the NOS M7 ROM or the NOS Google Play Edition ROM, both have a GSM base and work much better on GSM carriers.
The DNA may be fully SIM unlocked out of the box, unfortunately; the stock OS ruins some of the fun.
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thehoovie said:
Hi,
As far as GSM goes, I have used a Verizon s3 on t mobile, rooted with custom APN. The radio's are different and the VZW s3 on t mobile only gets HSPA+ . I would just get a GSM version.
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Isn't the GSM version ALSO going to get HSPA+?
You'd need a version that supports T-Mobile's LTE frequencies to do better than HSPA+
I get 1900mhz hspap on an att SIM with my droid Dna on a gsm Rom everything works great
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Zarboz said:
I get 1900mhz hspap on an att SIM with my droid Dna on a gsm Rom everything works great
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What speeds?
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i've seen posts about unlocking the sim, but those are for GSM,
I have a sprint one max, currently using it on sprint, but i also have a verizon DNA that i use on verizon. i will soon be wanting to use my one max on verizon, how do i achieve this with the one max?
mrkrowely said:
i've seen posts about unlocking the sim, but those are for GSM,
I have a sprint one max, currently using it on sprint, but i also have a verizon DNA that i use on verizon. i will soon be wanting to use my one max on verizon, how do i achieve this with the one max?
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Can't. All Verizon phones must be provisioned by Verizon. That's why you can never buy an unlocked phone and go to them with it.
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well that stinks!
WTB Bricked verizon htc one max then!! lol
FOR CHEAP!
cstrife999 said:
Can't. All Verizon phones must be provisioned by Verizon. That's why you can never buy an unlocked phone and go to them with it.
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i'm still curious and why you couldn't flash a verizon hboot, raidio, firmware, and rom, insert an actual verizon sim card and it work?
i'm sure it wouldn't work to it's 100%, but 90% of the bandwith usage on both devices are the same, both are cdma and LTE.
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i'm still curious and why you couldn't flash a verizon hboot, raidio, firmware, and rom, insert an actual verizon sim card and it work?
i'm sure it wouldn't work to it's 100%, but 90% of the bandwith usage on both devices are the same, both are cdma and LTE.
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Verizon has to provision all phones for use on their network. Without their allowance nothing else matters. Imagine their network like a WiFi hotspot. You have the ability to use it but lack the passphrase and no ability to find it out without the owners permission.
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cstrife999 said:
Verizon has to provision all phones for use on their network. Without their allowance nothing else matters. Imagine their network like a WiFi hotspot. You have the ability to use it but lack the passphrase and no ability to find it out without the owners permission.
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i have a verizon droid DNA, with an account, what if i or could i put the "ID" and everything of my max to look like it's the DNA, and flash the verizon MAX rom and everything, just altering the info file to match the new DNA id's so that it installs?
mrkrowely said:
i have a verizon droid DNA, with an account, what if i or could i put the "ID" and everything of my max to look like it's the DNA, and flash the verizon MAX rom and everything, just altering the info file to match the new DNA id's so that it installs?
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There is no way to do it. It doesn't matter what you copy Verizon didn't provision your meid......
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I just upgraded to the droid turbo and my gf is on sprint. I wanted to give her my phone, but I wasn't sure if it was possible. I was thinking I could just SIM unlock the phone and then get a micro SIM card from Sprint and simply activate it in a sprint store. Is this possible or not?
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Nope. Sprint is CDMA only. No Sims.
npjohnson said:
Nope. Sprint is CDMA only. No Sims.
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Um.. I'm confused, sprint does use LTE correct? I've seen sprint SIM cards before. And Verizon also uses CDMA so it has the correct radios.
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graymonkey44 said:
Um.. I'm confused, sprint does use LTE correct? I've seen sprint SIM cards before. And Verizon also uses CDMA so it has the correct radios.
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Yes. Sprint uses LTE, Verizon phones are SIM (GSM) unlocked, but are CDMA locked to Verizon. Even if CDMA was unlocked, it doesn't support the correct CDMA bands. And no. There is no way to hack it in.
If you can get your hands on a Sprint SIM and put it in the VZW S4 and you used NVRAM edits (extremely complicated) to enable the correct LTE bands, it would only get 4G LTE service, not 3G or Voice or SMS service.
npjohnson said:
Yes. Sprint uses LTE, Verizon phones are SIM (GSM) unlocked, but are CDMA locked to Verizon. Even if CDMA was unlocked, it doesn't support the correct CDMA bands. And no. There is no way to hack it in.
If you can get your hands on a Sprint SIM and put it in the VZW S4 and you used NVRAM edits (extremely complicated) to enable the correct LTE bands, it would only get 4G LTE service, not 3G or Voice or SMS service.
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All right that makes sense. Thank you for clearing it up with me.
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