Hi guys,
I spent a lot of time trying to do this and would like to share my SUCCESSFUL efforts with you all!
First let me clarify some of the terminology. Sprint and other carriers program their hardware EPROM to their network specs and lock access to it. This lock is called the MSL code!!! [Master Software Lock?? ]. You would need this code if you want to make any changes to it.
Electronically Programmable Non Volatile (ie a fixed value chip)ROM which is also called NV Rom (NV in short) is where the carrier customization are stored and read from when the phone boots up. The unlock process changes the carrier data to be read from a SIM card instead of from programmed NV. Also note that CDMA or GSM SIMs are actually called RUIMs in the tech world (<--Wiki this). Something I learnt the hard way...
Second, this is not rom flashing (i.e putting another OS on your phone's SSD card and updating the boot records). You will be programming the phone and if you mess up mommy wouldn't be able to help you . There would be noway to unbrick your phone so check your USB cable (most common culprit) virus scanners running on your PC etc etc.. before you try this.
Please thank Vinod Nayak at Rimweb for putting this all together for us. I am in Tokyo and have followed these guides to successfully unlock my Sprint LS990 to work on AU by KDDI (albeit only with 3G speed). So if you are still reading get a cup of coffee and head on to the sites below and read on. Please note you may need to register on their forum to see the screen caps (recommended).
You need the MSL code to reprogram your phone. Follow this guide to obtain it first and keep handy.
http://www.rimweb.in/forums/topic/37104-lg-g3-sprint-ls990-cdmagsm/
There were other guides found on XDA that will find your phone's MSL code. Once you have this go to the next step below..
General guide on how to Root your G3 and convert it from Sprint NV to any RUIM (SIM)
http://www.rimweb.in/forums/topic/3...uim-in-any-cdma-phone-using-dfs-free-version/
Let me know if it worked for you!! Merry Christmas and a Happy new year to you all!!
UPDATE:
I updated to CM12 based ROM 10 mins back and data works without any APN setting!!!
so...???
So, this will allow me to take my Sprint LS990 to Verizon?
If you get a sim/ruim from VZ I think you should me able to. Try it and share your experience.....
If I do this will my Sprint service stop working until I change back to NV_Only?
You can select RUIM Preffered setting instead of ruim only. That should allow the phone to default back when a ruim is not present in the slot. This is what I actually did.
Ducalion said:
You can select RUIM Preffered setting instead of ruim only. That should allow the phone to default back when a ruim is not present in the slot. This is what I actually did.
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This seems to be the closest thing we have to a proper carrier unlock, especially if the RUIM preferred option sticks and allows continued function on Sprint (if desired). There's a thread in another form (can't remember where) that has a method for unlocking all the phones radio bands. These 2 things combined could make a true world phone, increasing the dollar value and function.
I jacked around with DFS on my old LGOG with an embedded SIM and no bootloops, although RUIM preferred wouldn't stick, it gave me a chance to look around. Has anyone successfully unlocked their G3 to use a SIM or any CDMA carrier with this method?
I'm not ready to pull the trigger on it but am thinking about picking up a used G2 to mess around with and see what I can do.
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So with this method we will be able to flash any ls990 ROM and still have data?
treezy26 said:
So with this method we will be able to flash any ls990 ROM and still have data?
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It's still an LS990 at the end of the day so I think there needs to be some built in ROM compatibility.
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Will this method improve my signal? I'm currently on gsm by way of build prop method.
treezy26 said:
Will this method improve my signal? I'm currently on gsm by way of build prop method.
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I don't know about that. I think you're looking for a corporate PRL which allows faster speeds when roaming. I'm looking for someone who is in the US and still on Sprint but tested the RUIM preferred method with other SIMs and back to Sprint domestically to see if it works forward and backwards.
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Make a cm 12 guide and I will try
1619415 said:
Make a cm 12 guide and I will try
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Just curious...Why would a CM12 guide matter? Are you not able to set Diagnostic ##3424# in CM?
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Anyone who is currently on Sprint try the RUIM PREFERRED setup? Curious if we can just go ahead and set it up and swap SIMS from Sprint to other at our leisure.
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MikeDroid said:
Anyone who is currently on Sprint try the RUIM PREFERRED setup? Curious if we can just go ahead and set it up and swap SIMS from Sprint to other at our leisure.
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I'm wanting to try this with Ting (since it's BYOD blacklisted until August), but I'm curious about the "only 3G" issue the OP had. It wouldn't be so bad, but it would be nice to be able to revert back once August rolls around to get on the 4G. So my question is:
- Does this process change things that can be backed up / undone? (I'm guessing not, but would love to be wrong)
Incidentally, Ting is rolling out GSM support as we speak, so I may try to go that route first, though I think I might only get Edge speeds...
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I'm wanting to try this with Ting (since it's BYOD blacklisted until August), but I'm curious about the "only 3G" issue the OP had. It wouldn't be so bad, but it would be nice to be able to revert back once August rolls around to get on the 4G. So my question is:
- Does this process change things that can be backed up / undone? (I'm guessing not, but would love to be wrong)
Incidentally, Ting is rolling out GSM support as we speak, so I may try to go that route first, though I think I might only get Edge speeds...
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3G issues (LTE not working) might have something to do with the bands. Unlocking more radio bands on the qual comm is another process that is documented in other forums. Very detailed and you don't want to mess up.
Here's something
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55321005
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Interesting, thanks for the tip. It does look a bit scary, haha -- we'll see if I get to that point. I posted a question on the forum the OP was referencing about the possibility of undoing / reverting to a backup after doing that process. I'll post here if I find out elsewhere.
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UPDATE:
I updated to CM12 based ROM 10 mins back and data works without any APN setting!!!
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I've got everything working on the stock rom using this method with my AT&T sim. (However, I have RUIM only enabled) But I can't seem to get cm12 working. Radio acts like it wants to work, but it's very slow with sms, and the dialer doesn't work at all.
I have my "Preferred network type" set to "Global." I cannot, for the life of me, figure out how you have CM12 working. Also, I've tried a couple other compatible ROMs. Do you have any other information on what you did to get it working?
Reviving an old thread....
On the link to unlocking most of the images to help out are no longer valid. Can someone help out with getting through the process?
I have a Motorola moto G XT1031 CDMA phone. I am trying to unlock it myself with the unlock code. If you have any information that would help, can you please respond ASAP, please.
Related
With my bill going up and companies like metro PCs going down, which carrier would be the best to switch to both in price and service? (days, possible 4g)
Bump? Anyone?
it can be done, but as of right now as far as I know, there is no way to get the msl/spc code unless the phone is active. or you can pay someone get the code for you. Once you get the code you can then put the device in diag mode and flash a new prl for the carrier you want to use. I have flashed many phones to cricket and the photon can be flashed.
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it can be done, but as of right now as far as I know, there is no way to get the msl/spc code unless the phone is active. or you can pay someone get the code for you. Once you get the code you can then put the device in diag mode and flash a new prl for the carrier you want to use. I have flashed many phones to cricket and the photon can be flashed.
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Could this method work to flash my Photon over to cdma boost?
So far people are telling me I can't flash it, but the iFix store in the mall says I can flash to boost or metro. Please enlighten me. They said they charge 50. Is it possible and well I get 4g or anything? If so also, which company should I go for?
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So far people are telling me I can't flash it, but the iFix store in the mall says I can flash to boost or metro. Please enlighten me. They said they charge 50. Is it possible and well I get 4g or anything? If so also, which company should I go for?
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yes you can flash it with other carries i have mine working in IUSACELL (México), and i have 3g working too you just got to rewrite some nv items so the data configuration can be saved. You need your msl code in order to program it with cdma workshop
I have no idea how to do that I would have a company in the mall called Ifix flash it for me, just not sure which company would be best in Florida on the gulf coast. Metro, boost, cricket, simple mobile. Or if they can unlock the gsm portion?
I have my photon fully flashed to cricket, I paid someone $35 for it, took them like 5 hours but its working perfectly.
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yes you can flash it with other carries i have mine working in IUSACELL (México), and i have 3g working too you just got to rewrite some nv items so the data configuration can be saved. You need your msl code in order to program it with cdma workshop
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Hola. i have mine on metro pcs pero i dont have internet yet...can you help to get internet de metro pcs..
Working on it
I am working on getting mines flashed over to metropcs
I am waiting for the esn to be added to the database.
I should be able to get internet working on it, and maybe mms.
I will update when i have it up and running.
But so far i have gotten my msl/spc by using radiocom like here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365058&highlight=msl&styleid=16
then after that you just have to add the esn here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270915486238
then after that you have to change the msl/spc to 000000 with cdmaworkshop or qpst. But i cant get qpst to work so ill let you guys know once i am ready to do that part.
I can flash it for you, I have flashed my bros to cricket. the phone does not need to be active there is a method to get he MSL.. IF you are in the philadelphia area I can flash for you. I only charge 35 $
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i am working on getting mines flashed over to metropcs
i am waiting for the esn to be added to the database.
I should be able to get internet working on it, and maybe mms.
I will update when i have it up and running.
But so far i have gotten my msl/spc by using radiocom like here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365058&highlight=msl&styleid=16
then after that you just have to add the esn here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=270915486238
then after that you have to change the msl/spc to 000000 with cdmaworkshop or qpst. But i cant get qpst to work so ill let you guys know once i am ready to do that part.
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any updates! Please let me know
Photon to Boost or Virgin Mobile
I'm also interested in finding out if a Photon can be flashed to Boost or Virgin Mobile. My Photon has a bad esn because I didn't pay the bill. I just read on Cnet Sprint is giving WiMax to Boost and Virgin Mobile (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...to-bring-wimax-to-boost-mobile-virgin-mobile/) which makes my Photon valuable to me again. Are there any updates on this subject? I have searched the net for cdma flashing software and it's a tad expensive and complicated (for me). Plus, I like to flash rom's and themes so I don't want to end up having to re-flash because of a ROM I used.
I had posted this elsewhere but here's what you guys need to know before proceeding.
To clear things up and put this to rest, here's some things you need to know about putting the Sprint Photon on other carriers.
Will not work on GSM in the United States
May work on Boost (requires you change/clone the ESN, illegal)
May work on Virgin (requires you change/clone the ESN, illegal)
Any method that requires you change or clone the ESN is illegal
May work on Cricket (Expect 4G to not work and expect it to take a while to get it to work right. grey area)
May work on other smaller CDMA carriers like Alaska Communications (see notes on moving to Cricket)
Both Boost and Virgin are subsidiaries of Sprint and flashing to them requires breaking some laws at a Federal level.
Your best and legal option is to leave CDMA altogether. If you are pleased with the Photon then getting a good condition used Motorola Atrix and having it unlocked for international service would be you best bet. You may still run into issues where certain features like data may not work with certain providers. I have been told by others that have done it that on the Atrix it's simply having the right APN settings.
Discussion of this nature tends to be frowned upon by the moderators due to the legality of the subject so don't be surprised if the thread gets closed.
help flash motorola photon to metro
Im not too good with touch screen phones yet. I just got one through sprint and got an account its a motorola photon. My first question can I switch and flash over my phone from sprint to metro? Second questions will i still get the internet? Third question does anything need to be done before hand such as example: account must be 0 balance. What would I need to flash? Is it hard to flash it? Can you explain in detail how to flash it. I just got an account and phone with sprint but when i seen the bill per month after i got home and baught the phone I was mad! Can I switch it over if I just got the account literally its 2 days old...please email me [email protected]
If you can us WiFi for most of your Data. ting (dot) com is the way to go. No flashing.
You just pay for what you get.
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rbeavers said:
If you can us WiFi for most of your Data. ting (dot) com is the way to go. No flashing.
You just pay for what you get.
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So if I understand you correctly, I cant flash the phone? what did you mean the first part of your reply?
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So if I understand you correctly, I cant flash the phone? what did you mean the first part of your reply?
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Your phones bootloader is locked. All most impossible to change.
If your off contract you can switch your Photon to ting real easy.
Ting is cheap if you don't use cell data , use WiFi were you can find it.
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Just activated my old photon on ting. Very straightforward and my bill is super cheap
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Expo Mobile will activate sprint devices without flashing. I am on their $35 unlimited talk, unlimited international text, and 500mb LTE data. Everything seems to be going good.
Google voice call forwarding does not work but the app does. People can call your Google voice number and it will still ring your phone. You can still make out going calls and it will display your Google voice number. What doesn't work is if someone calls your original cellphone number and it rings 6 times it will not forward to Google voice.
Sprint Voicemail app works.
4G LTE works great and i get 10-15mbps just about everywhere I go. Expo also has 24/7 customer care, most prepaids are closed after 10pm.
If you have a bad ESN this will not work the only other option you would have is either cricket or page plus and you will only get 3G data. Small price to pay with having a bad ESN.
Ting is very good too if you need google voice to work. I herd that they support it.
Please help as I need to flash or unlock the us cellular note 2 to use on Verizon. Is it possible and if so how do I go about doing it? Please help!! Thank you!
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This is not an easy task. Unless you know someone that has access to Verizons databases, you can't activate the phone on Verizon.
Don't quote me on this, but I don't think that phone supports Verizons bands.
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OK. I agree not easy. Any thoughts on being able to flash with CDMA WORKSHOP? I really need help if you or anyone has thoughts or ideas please get back to me. I appreciate it!
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Activation is all through the SIM card for LTE phones. Odds are, the USC version doesn't support the proper LTE bands to work. I also think you're going to have problems using the CDMA network as well, even if the SIM card is recognized.
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tennisjunkie said:
OK. I agree not easy. Any thoughts on being able to flash with CDMA WORKSHOP? I really need help if you or anyone has thoughts or ideas please get back to me. I appreciate it!
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It will most likely be impossible and that's if the phone supports the same bands lol. Why not just sell it and by a vzw one?
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welll ........try this
first is it unlocked and if so do this set it to global sim add apns (get on google) buy titainium backup root (oh you do have to have root ) also pop in sim if you have service bars check for the apn"s if you dont have them downloan apn manager convert it to system app through titainium b. then put sim in and reboot point i am not responseable if damage occurs ... but it shouldnt so you can you tube it to hope that helps you :good:
Nor for sure if it's possible with custom flashing but it's not stock. The note that I saw was heavily locked down. It had a sim card slot but that was about it.
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First of all.... looking at this link below.... the SCH-i605 and the SCH-R950 are on the same bands.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_ii_cdma-5152.php
Second, I am also attempting to get this working myself. The SIM Card is not even recognized. I have my SIM from my Nexus and it still Says No SIM.
Anybody else want to lend some advice? I too would like this working.
A little more research. US Cellular did not want to give up their information to "Unlock the phone". Verizon's SIM does not work with the US Cellular stuff on the phone. It looks like that the partition needs to be setup with the Verizon PIT file. Once it is re-partitioned, then the rest of the phone should be able to be flashed to Verizon.
Am I far off base? Has anyone had success with Re-partitioning? The last 2 tries, it hangs at Get PIT for mapping.... or something like that.
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A little more research. US Cellular did not want to give up their information to "Unlock the phone". Verizon's SIM does not work with the US Cellular stuff on the phone. It looks like that the partition needs to be setup with the Verizon PIT file. Once it is re-partitioned, then the rest of the phone should be able to be flashed to Verizon.
Am I far off base? Has anyone had success with Re-partitioning? The last 2 tries, it hangs at Get PIT for mapping.... or something like that.
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Seems a little off that the partitions would be different.
I imagine it is CSC and maybe even EFS related.
Do you have a USC pit file? I'll compare it to the verizon one.
That's another issue. I don't have a USC Pit file.
I found an R950 firware update that may have the necessary PIT and CSC files. It's extremely slow... might not get back to this until late tomorrow.
Not included. Like I said before, the verizon PIT hangs at Get PIT for mapping on the R950. If someone can provide that file, I'm curious if it will get past that point.
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Won't work without heavy SW work at the modem level and kernel. For 2/3G, they share the same bands (PCS/Cellular). LTE is on completely different bands (Verizon is on Band 13, U.S. Cellular is on Bands 2,4,5 and 12). Therefore, if you could hack it enough to get it to accept modified VZ SW, it would only work on 2/3G.
First up sorry to dig it out of the grave
but i saw some utterly famous guyz replying so thought of dropping my query as well.
I am gonna get a USC Note 2 , though i will primarily use it on cdma , but i was wondering if now ( its been a month since last reply in this thread )
the phone can be unlocked and can be used on a gsm network outside of country ,
i wish to just pop in any gsm sim in it when i am abroad and use that on it.
or if there i a way to make it work with the cdma sims outside of US.
would be grateful if anyone can shed any light.
thanks
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First up sorry to dig it out of the grave
but i saw some utterly famous guyz replying so thought of dropping my query as well.
I am gonna get a USC Note 2 , though i will primarily use it on cdma , but i was wondering if now ( its been a month since last reply in this thread )
the phone can be unlocked and can be used on a gsm network outside of country ,
i wish to just pop in any gsm sim in it when i am abroad and use that on it.
or if there i a way to make it work with the cdma sims outside of US.
would be grateful if anyone can shed any light.
thanks
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I believe that the USC Note 2 is unlocked for GSM sim cards. I will know in about 5 weeks. I plan on testing my "testing" USC Note 2 while abroad. If it works, I will let you know.
I would still like to get it to recognize my VZW Sim card. Ugh!
lord dredd said:
First up sorry to dig it out of the grave
but i saw some utterly famous guyz replying so thought of dropping my query as well.
I am gonna get a USC Note 2 , though i will primarily use it on cdma , but i was wondering if now ( its been a month since last reply in this thread )
the phone can be unlocked and can be used on a gsm network outside of country ,
i wish to just pop in any gsm sim in it when i am abroad and use that on it.
or if there i a way to make it work with the cdma sims outside of US.
would be grateful if anyone can shed any light.
thanks
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It is unlocked for GSM bands domestic and internationally on supported frequencies.
For Domestic GSM/UMTS/HPSAP+ bands ( you ARENT locked to 2G , but you need to be on refarmed 1900MGHz bands for H+ in your area) I suggest taking a look at JellyBeans ROm 13 or 14.... Supports GSM bands and APN editor . I have my Verizon sch-i605 running on TMobile at 6MB+ down and 2MB+ up with text and mms with no problems at all.
TMO has no contract plans from $50-$70
Simple Mobile has plans from I thin $30-$60
both with 4G (AKA HSA+)
Its not an issue with verizon variant, but us cellukar vwrsion is tricky. Inserting an international gsm sim only shows unsupported
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nitro66215 said:
A little more research. US Cellular did not want to give up their information to "Unlock the phone". Verizon's SIM does not work with the US Cellular stuff on the phone. It looks like that the partition needs to be setup with the Verizon PIT file. Once it is re-partitioned, then the rest of the phone should be able to be flashed to Verizon.
Am I far off base? Has anyone had success with Re-partitioning? The last 2 tries, it hangs at Get PIT for mapping.... or something like that.
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RE: As of 9-13-13, no luck still with Re-Part. working on clients R950 trying without root is the goal, but appears it is the only way. Manual Programming is also difficult. VRZ's pit file i605 won't map on R950. Soft bricked the phone after each attempt. Both phones operate on same bands for sure, but must have providers software installed for the LTE card to work. Not even sure how stable a root would be, but not going to attempt on clients phone......
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RE: As of 9-13-13, no luck still with Re-Part. working on clients R950 trying without root is the goal, but appears it is the only way. Manual Programming is also difficult. VRZ's pit file i605 won't map on R950. Soft bricked the phone after each attempt. Both phones operate on same bands for sure, but must have providers software installed for the LTE card to work. Not even sure how stable a root would be, but not going to attempt on clients phone......
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Attempted something similar today, was told the phone does not contain a CDMA radio so no go for service of any type because it does not support the same LTE band also.
Even if you managed to get the radio working, the Verizon rep said that the phone is not on their list of allowed devices and a SIM would not activate over their network.
I've never flashed a phone to a different CDMA provider so I thought I'd ask here first and see if anyone had knowledge of how to do this? Or point me in the right direction to somewhere to learn how to? I've unlocked the GSM radio for use on att already and I'm sure it's a similar procedure, but I followed a guide to do this and have little experience with it. Thanks in advance to anyone that has information on this.
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Corutesy bump for wanting to switch the rezound I'm getting soon to Virgin Mobile.
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Also, how did you go about unlocking your phone? If you unlocked the gsm attenna. I assume that the phone is fully unlocked and you should just be able to switch it over. As long as it isn't on another account I.e. Verizon.
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I've never flashed a phone to a different CDMA provider so I thought I'd ask here first and see if anyone had knowledge of how to do this? Or point me in the right direction to somewhere to learn how to? I've unlocked the GSM radio for use on att already and I'm sure it's a similar procedure, but I followed a guide to do this and have little experience with it. Thanks in advance to anyone that has information on this.
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The CDMA providers blacklist phones from being used on other CDMA providers networks. "Flashing" in this sense is stealing and ESN/IMEI from an existing phone and cloning it to your phone. Not only is it extremely risky for your hardware, it is extremely against the law and cannot be discussed on these forums.
Certain phones like the Rezound and the Dinc4G have additional feature of GSM radios added for compatibility with oversea networks, you aren't really flashing anything so much as the phone reconfigures itself for GSM or CDMA depending on what kind of SIM card it finds.
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The CDMA providers blacklist phones from being used on other CDMA providers networks. "Flashing" in this sense is stealing and ESN/IMEI from an existing phone and cloning it to your phone. Not only is it extremely risky for your hardware, it is extremely against the law and cannot be discussed on these forums.
Certain phones like the Rezound and the Dinc4G have additional feature of GSM radios added for compatibility with oversea networks, you aren't really flashing anything so much as the phone reconfigures itself for GSM or CDMA depending on what kind of SIM card it finds.
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Umm. Not true at all actually. I had a P+ dealer switch over my phone with a bad esn (mother in law didnt pah her bill) and they didn't use a "friend" phone. It doesn't require stealing a phones imei or anything it requires a lot of work to port it to a different carrier, but doesn't require anything illegal. Not to mention what you're talking about is also based on the staye you are in. In the states it js legal as long as you aren't copying two have two phones on one service and is completely legal ( state dependant) if you own both phones. Check your facts.
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Corutesy bump for wanting to switch the rezound I'm getting soon to Virgin Mobile.
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Also, how did you go about unlocking your phone? If you unlocked the gsm attenna. I assume that the phone is fully unlocked and you should just be able to switch it over. As long as it isn't on another account I.e. Verizon.
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as far as using it on gsm networks, yeah its possible you just need to either do some things (I could dig up a link if you want) on stock and have it kinda work, or find a rom that supports it and flash that (recommended, what i'm gonna be doing). and flashing phones to other networks i am pretty sure is illegal, i know from experience, i tried to work that out on xda and they sent me away saying this isnt a topic allowed of these forums, so if you still want to know about carrier flashing i suggest another forum
but anyways just making sure i am following you right, you want to gsm unlock but want to use it on virgin mobile (a CDMA network?)
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as far as using it on gsm networks, yeah its possible you just need to either do some things (I could dig up a link if you want) on stock and have it kinda work, or find a rom that supports it and flash that (recommended, what i'm gonna be doing). and flashing phones to other networks i am pretty sure is illegal, i know from experience, i tried to work that out on xda and they sent me away saying this isnt a topic allowed of these forums, so if you still want to know about carrier flashing i suggest another forum
but anyways just making sure i am following you right, you want to gsm unlock but want to use it on virgin mobile (a CDMA network?)
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OK. Well it makes sense now why I'm not getting much help on this topic. Anyone know of a forum for this kind of stuff?
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It should be possible, I've gotten as far as getting the NV values on both radios, but it seems as the 9k wants to search for signal on 800mhz only, at least according to DFS.
The Thunderbolt is able to get 3g working on Boost/VM/etc. at least from what I've seen. Considering the similarity between it and the Rezound I was hoping it would be easier...
-- Starfox
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as far as using it on gsm networks, yeah its possible you just need to either do some things (I could dig up a link if you want) on stock and have it kinda work, or find a rom that supports it and flash that (recommended, what i'm gonna be doing). and flashing phones to other networks i am pretty sure is illegal, i know from experience, i tried to work that out on xda and they sent me away saying this isnt a topic allowed of these forums, so if you still want to know about carrier flashing i suggest another forum
but anyways just making sure i am following you right, you want to gsm unlock but want to use it on virgin mobile (a CDMA network?)
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Flashing phones to different networks aren't illegal. It is a state dependant thing. I went and had my note 2 flashed over at a business in the middle of a bestbuy, guitar center, more big businesses. (Aka, big businesses near ~ not a shady place)
Yes, I know that Virgin Mobile is CDMA. I wanted to know how to unlock the GSM antenna purely for education purposes.
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Flashing phones to different networks aren't illegal. It is a state dependant thing. I went and had my note 2 flashed over at a business in the middle of a bestbuy, guitar center, more big businesses. (Aka, big businesses near ~ not a shady place)
Yes, I know that Virgin Mobile is CDMA. I wanted to know how to unlock the GSM antenna purely for education purposes.
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well if it is by the carrier or carrier certified reps it isn't. and what that other guy said it works with DFS CDMAtool or I've heard of cdma workshop working good take a look here
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It should be possible, I've gotten as far as getting the NV values on both radios, but it seems as the 9k wants to search for signal on 800mhz only, at least according to DFS.
The Thunderbolt is able to get 3g working on Boost/VM/etc. at least from what I've seen. Considering the similarity between it and the Rezound I was hoping it would be easier...
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It is easy, but only to people that already know how to do it. The process is similar for most phones and doesn't require a lot, but most that try to do it dont know what they're doing and it takes them forever. What we need is a good electrical engineer.
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Quick update:
The Rezound can work on Sprint-based towers, at least with leaked global (4.03) and stock global (4.05) radios. It took me couple of days of fidding via DFS, but right now I do have 3G working, albeit with the stock ROM complaining that mobile data isn't working. Trying out couple of ROMs to see which ones is usable.
Most important thing is that the 8K radio needs to be set to NV_ONLY but that 9K can be set to RUIM preferred. Also, flashing the firmware (from the recent 4.05 global update) will reset the 8K radio to RUIM, which is a good thing/bad thing. Good thing is that if you ever want to NV reset (since hard resets do not seem to wipe NV), flashing the latest firmware/radio should get you back to RUIM/stock PRL/blanked #. Bad thing is you need to fiddle with some of the settings in DFS again, but at least it's only for the 8K radio so far.
Another thing that probably made it work was to use the same PRL from the phone Sprint thinks you are using. For me this was the 61009 PRL. Profile info only needs to get stuck into the 9K radio and I don't think you really need to bother with the NAM2 stuff. But again, I've done too many fiddling to be able to say for certain.
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Background: Work bought me an S4, but they use Verizon...I use T-Mobile. I must solve this issue. (Plus it's been so long that since I've even opened my QXDM/QPST that I almost...almost forgot how to use it, man, I miss it)...
This is more of a running log to potentially help others in their endeavors. This is an advanced topic...by today's standards. There is a LOT you need to know before just jumping in on this...unless you're like me and don't mind bricking a device for the sake of learning...then, carry on.
BTW, As you can clearly tell..I don't do super formatted frilly assed colorful posts...
ONWARD!!
What is known so far:
1. The modem MDM9615m is capable of anything...(Maybe even making you tea).
2. Using either 2009031920090615 or 2010031619780721 as the 16 digit PW in QXDM allows you to use "Software Backup" to backup and restore QCN files...(Both work, only one puts the phone offline)
4. The AWS band method that is floating around here (337_aws.qcn) doesn't work...it actually breaks the phone. (more on that later)
5. Putting your backup on again leaves whichever fields the 337 file had intact...so say you put the 337_aws.qcn file onto the phone, it stops working...however, you restore your backup...and the phone starts working again but all the fields of the NV that were written by the 337 file remain. Though phone functionality is restored.
6. MDK or ME7...doesn't matter at this point...no effect on functionality.
7. Flashing an MD1 modem/NV Backup from a T-Mobile Note II (which also has the 9615 doesn't seem to work...yet)...It actually kills the phone...I'll update when/IF I revive it...
8. You can Odin your modem back...whew!
What needs to be explored:
1. Whether or not flashing (shoehorning) another carriers radio will help (or if it's even an option)...this would probably have to be a regional carrier or maybe an international (non US) carrier's radio. Usually the bigger carriers can tell the manufacturer what to leave out/put into their phone...
2. Which NV Items need to be modified in order to get AWS (maybe even LTE) working.
3. Can a backup of another phone....let's sayyyy a T-Mo S4...be made and dumped onto the i545.
4. What complications are there? Is this permanent, can the phone be put back to "normal"? etc. etc.
5. If, as a last resort, we can edit the current parameters that are in the NV of a stock i545 to simply "reroute" (work with me here)...what bands it uses for which function...(this is the most tedious...but most undoable method...that I can think of....so far).
Troubles I've already ran into:
As mentioned before...after you write the 337_aws.qcn file to the phone it's pretty much set in stone...for now. When this happens, the modem starts boot looping...I'm sure this is due to bad parameters since the 337_aws.qcn file was probably from a 9215, i545 uses a 9615...you will not be able to access it again in QPST/XDM...
You'll have to get into Settings, More Networks, Mobile Networks, Network Mode, and select GSM/UMTS...this will keep the modem alive for you to be able to play with it again.
So far that's it. I've only been able to start messing with this phone in the past day or so...so, I'm sure this thread will be my dumping ground for my progress/findings/ideas...etc. Again, I encourage anyone that wants to help....to do so. I'm always open for collaboration.
This is where I start filtering down and organizing what I'm doing.
I believe that the best course of action right now is to utilize the 9615m radio from a Note 2...and perhaps a ROM from a T-Mo S4...
The main reason is because when you flash the 9615 modem but still use a VZ Rom...it tries to force it into a "WCDMA Preferred" selection. Which as we know...isn't an option in the menu. However, it's still trying...but I think the ROM doesn't know what to do at that point (could be way off here). I'm thinking that there has got to be a specific combination that needs to be used....for example...a Note 2 modem with a Tmobile ROM and NV backup? or that...but with a VZ NV backup...
I'm not a programmer/rom guy, (I'm more RF engineering etc...), so I don't know if there are things in the ROM itself that dictate which options are available and how the modem is used...
More exploration to be done...
Build.prop indicates to the system what network options should be available
Tmo rom looks like the way to go
On these newer phones the modem dictates pretty much everything else network-wise
CNexus said:
Build.prop indicates to the system what network options should be available
Tmo rom looks like the way to go
On these newer phones the modem dictates pretty much everything else network-wise
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That's good information....I tried running Paranoid Android but it wouldn't boot and any other rom told me that the device ID was wrong. I'm going to look into bypassing that check and try some more...
It hasn't been fully proven/disproven but it seems that there may be a "hard" block for US CDMA devices to use US GSM.
It can certainly see it but won't connect based on the threads I read.
But I don't think anyone has documented it in thorough detail what has and has not been tested.
Now if that setting is in NV data and can be modified... you may have a shot.
But if it's something hard coded and/or physical (QFuse) it may not be possible.
Q: Would it not be easier to find someone to swap with you? Or sell the device and get a Tmo?
garwynn said:
Q: Would it not be easier to find someone to swap with you? Or sell the device and get a Tmo?
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Haha, leaps and bounds! easier, but what's the fun in that? How will we learn what can and can't be done if we take the easy way? Plus...maybe someone runs into a stellar deal and can't afford a full priced S4...they might nab a VZ one for cheap...this could potentially help a lot of people...
This is more to learn than anything...
Any progress?
Any progress with this? I'm in the same boat.
Thats a shame. Would be nice to have found out if a CDMA S4 could be fully used with GSM network.
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Any progress with this? I'm in the same boat.
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blackhand901 said:
Any progress with this? I'm in the same boat.
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I've been stalking the internet for weeks to try and see if i can pick up all of T-Mobile's hspa frquencies in my area cause I'm tired of edge and I know the hardware is there i just don't want a brick. would rather 2g over a brick.
I have been on tmobiles 4g network with my i545 for 2 weeks now... I have had zero issues.
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I have been on tmobiles 4g network with my i545 for 2 weeks now... I have had zero issues.
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HSPA on this divi e. Not LTE.
It makes me confused that band 4 LTE is locked on the phone
I always thought verizon had the open access regulation from FCC and that's the reason all verizon LTE phones are gsm unlocked
in fact some posts indicates it's CDMA unlocked also. Some CDMA carriers use R-uim card such as China telecom,and people were able to insert the ruim and have cdma working.
From this post, it seems verizon only had the regulation on LTE 700 band 17, not AWS band 4?
or is it just because verizon hasn't really deployed AWS LTE yet, so the relative software hasn't been released yet?
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It makes me confused that band 4 LTE is locked on the phone
I always thought verizon had the open access regulation from FCC and that's the reason all verizon LTE phones are gsm unlocked
in fact some posts indicates it's CDMA unlocked also. Some CDMA carriers use R-uim card such as China telecom,and people were able to insert the ruim and have cdma working.
From this post, it seems verizon only had the regulation on LTE 700 band 17, not AWS band 4?
or is it just because verizon hasn't really deployed AWS LTE yet, so the relative software hasn't been released yet?
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just for clarification, Verizon uses LTE 700 B13 not B17. According to Samsung and some other website Verizon S4 support LTE B4 and B13. and according to the guy in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44206677&postcount=20 he is using or have used VZW S4 on T-mobile LTE.
This is one of the oddest things I've ever run into.
I can put a T-Mobile Sim in the phone and it works almost like it was a Verizon Sim with the exception of needing to switch it to global mode when prompted.
If I stick a GSM Metro PCS Sim that I am currently using on the M919 it wont connect to anything except Wifi.
I hate locked bootloaders.
What about with custom roms?
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just for clarification, Verizon uses LTE 700 B13 not B17. According to Samsung and some other website Verizon S4 support LTE B4 and B13. and according to the guy in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44206677&postcount=20 he is using or have used VZW S4 on T-mobile LTE.
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Sorry that was a typo, yep att use b17 and vzw use b13
Verizon is going to deploy a second LTE network using AWS spectrum in congested areas
Why you guys don't install "android data tool" to be able to enter the *#*#4636#*#* menu so you could set LTE only to see if Verizon S4 pick up T-Mobile LTE?
If you are rooted and have access to write system data you could edit the "sale_code.dat" file under system/csc and change from VZW to SPR, AWS or any other code, so you can have more network mode options under mobile network settings.
Just for some clarification... This is done on Stock Touchwiz rom or is the device rooted and / or rommed and loki-d
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So I can put a verizon sim card in my tmobile Gs4?I thought Verizon didnt use sim cards like tmobile and at&t.my tmobile Gs4 is unlocked so basically I just need a Verizon sim card and a Verizon plan. Thanks!!!
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I don't think that works that way. Verizon is a CDMA carrier and T-Mobile a GSM carrier. Verizon sim card is for LTE only (LTE is GSM based technology). Voice works over CDMA radio which T-Mobile S4 lack of it. T-Mobile sim works on Verizon S4 because Verizon S4 is CDMA/GSM/LTE capable.
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So I can put a verizon sim card in my tmobile Gs4?I thought Verizon didnt use sim cards like tmobile and at&t.my tmobile Gs4 is unlocked so basically I just need a Verizon sim card and a Verizon plan. Thanks!!!
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To be clear, I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing, and no experience whatsoever with any of this.
Over 12 hours of research I managed to unlock the bootloader, root, and flash my TextNow Moto E with a stock US Cellular ROM. Everything worked fine.
What are the next steps to take, if any? Is it possible to even use a GSM network on this phone? I have an active T-Mobile sim card that the phone simply will not accept. I get a "no sim found" notification.
I attempted this with no success.
To start, su command would not work.
This worked for me on the XT1529, but it might work on the XT1526 as well since they're both LTE/CDMA devices:
root, open /system/build.prop, add the following line to the end: ro.telephony.default_network=10
save, make sure the permissions are still 0644, reboot.
When you check *#*#4636#*#* it should be in LTE/GSM/CDMA mode, and in Settings > Mobile Network it should say "Global".
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This worked for me on the XT1529, but it might work on the XT1526 as well since they're both LTE/CDMA devices:
root, open /system/build.prop, add the following line to the end: ro.telephony.default_network=10
save, make sure the permissions are still 0644, reboot.
When you check *#*#4636#*#* it should be in LTE/GSM/CDMA mode, and in Settings > Mobile Network it should say "Global".
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This didn't work. I ended up experimenting more and softbricked my phone, got stuck in a boot loop. Through curiosity I ended up flashing the phone with a stock xt1527 rom. SIM now recognized as a non supported sim, so that's nice. Still doesn't work.
I cannot post links to screens as a new user, but if you happen to want to see them, message me and I'll link them from my dropbox.
I ended up ordering an unlocked xt1527 last night. However, I would still like to figure this out. Would I perhaps have to flash the modem?
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This didn't work. I ended up experimenting more and softbricked my phone, got stuck in a boot loop. Through curiosity I ended up flashing the phone with a stock xt1527 rom. SIM now recognized as a non supported sim, so that's nice. Still doesn't work.
I cannot post links to screens as a new user, but if you happen to want to see them, message me and I'll link them from my dropbox.
I ended up ordering an unlocked xt1527 last night. However, I would still like to figure this out. Would I perhaps have to flash the modem?
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You could try the procedure posted in this thread if you haven't already, assuming your still on the xt1527 rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e-2015/general/how-to-verizon-moto-e-2015-gsm-network-t3098953
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You could try the procedure posted in this thread if you haven't already, assuming your still on the xt1527 rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e-2015/general/how-to-verizon-moto-e-2015-gsm-network-t3098953
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Just tested this - not working. This is a really maddening scenario
I contacted sprint and gave them the IMEI - they tell me that this phone can indeed be unlocked (xt1526), but I would have to do it through TextNow. I've searched for ways to bring up the SIM unlock prompt, but it simply doesn't show up with any of the methods found. :s
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I contacted sprint and gave them the IMEI - they tell me that this phone can indeed be unlocked (xt1526), but I would have to do it through TextNow. I've searched for ways to bring up the SIM unlock prompt, but it simply doesn't show up with any of the methods found. :s
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I am also having problems finding this menu. I wish there was an easy way to access it, but unfortunately, sprint has made it rather difficult.
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I am also having problems finding this menu. I wish there was an easy way to access it, but unfortunately, sprint has made it rather difficult.
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I still have my sprint model as well, and have the MSL code. But I have also never found a way to enter it for unlock. I've tried using active ATT and VZW SIMs, and also tried flashing the USC modem on it - still works on sprint / ringplus, but also still won't acknowledge ATT or VZW SIMs.
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I still have my sprint model as well, and have the MSL code. But I have also never found a way to enter it for unlock. I've tried using active ATT and VZW SIMs, and also tried flashing the USC modem on it - still works on sprint / ringplus, but also still won't acknowledge ATT or VZW SIMs.
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I don't know for sure, but i did read in another place on here somewhere about an "embedded card" that sprint put in another phone. I wonder if that is the case with this one? If not, all i can really think of is that there is something in place that motorola made specifically for the sprint model. We know its not modem related, so it must be somewhere else, in the NAM, or something like that. One thing i did accomplish was to get another bar, (it had no signal and looked like an outline, but it was there), show up by editing the build prop with a specific line and then rebooting. Odd thing is, its the same thing that showed up when i attemped to flash another stock firmware. The firmware i flashed was for the xt1526, retail us. Which leads me to think it might be a band issue, as someone else mentioned in another thread on here somewhere. I mean, it would make sense with the no signal and everything. Sorry for the long post, just thinking out loud i guess.
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I don't know for sure, but i did read in another place on here somewhere about an "embedded card" that sprint put in another phone. I wonder if that is the case with this one? If not, all i can really think of is that there is something in place that motorola made specifically for the sprint model. We know its not modem related, so it must be somewhere else, in the NAM, or something like that. One thing i did accomplish was to get another bar, (it had no signal and looked like an outline, but it was there), show up by editing the build prop with a specific line and then rebooting. Odd thing is, its the same thing that showed up when i attemped to flash another stock firmware. The firmware i flashed was for the xt1526, retail us. Which leads me to think it might be a band issue, as someone else mentioned in another thread on here somewhere. I mean, it would make sense with the no signal and everything. Sorry for the long post, just thinking out loud i guess.
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Yes, I'm hoping there is a fix somehow. I'm ok to use the phone on WiFi, but it is otherwise useless to me. I'd like to have a backup phone in case my first Moto E dies, they are really rugged. I have experimented all day without success. Experimenting with build.prop does nothing. I export the build.prop text and post it just for reference, if anyone cares to play with it.
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I don't know for sure, but i did read in another place on here somewhere about an "embedded card" that sprint put in another phone. I wonder if that is the case with this one? If not, all i can really think of is that there is something in place that motorola made specifically for the sprint model. We know its not modem related, so it must be somewhere else, in the NAM, or something like that. One thing i did accomplish was to get another bar, (it had no signal and looked like an outline, but it was there), show up by editing the build prop with a specific line and then rebooting. Odd thing is, its the same thing that showed up when i attemped to flash another stock firmware. The firmware i flashed was for the xt1526, retail us. Which leads me to think it might be a band issue, as someone else mentioned in another thread on here somewhere. I mean, it would make sense with the no signal and everything. Sorry for the long post, just thinking out loud i guess.
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its not an embedded card in the textnow wireless version as ive taken the sim card out of mine. The S3 was an imbedded card, but not this device. Im also searching for a method to sim unlock this little bugger. Ill let you know what i find out
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its not an embedded card in the textnow wireless version as ive taken the sim card out of mine. The S3 was an imbedded card, but not this device. Im also searching for a method to sim unlock this little bugger. Ill let you know what i find out
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I talked to Sprint - they told me TextNow has to SIM unlock the device. I talked to TextNow - They told me the device IS SIM unlocked. So, there's that if anybody is wondering. I've almost abandoned this experiment, but it's still in the back of my mind. In other news - the new Moto E 2015 I received has a yellowed display. 2/3 brand new Motorola devices I received had display issues. Excellent phones, poor quality control it seems.
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I talked to Sprint - they told me TextNow has to SIM unlock the device. I talked to TextNow - They told me the device IS SIM unlocked. So, there's that if anybody is wondering. I've almost abandoned this experiment, but it's still in the back of my mind. In other news - the new Moto E 2015 I received has a yellowed display. 2/3 brand new Motorola devices I received had display issues. Excellent phones, poor quality control it seems.
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i got my E2015 from textnow for $10 as a refurb and its solid as a rock so far. I stumbled upon this thread and it looks promising, but im at work and we use citrix clients and not actual computers so i cant run it here, but ill give it a whirl when i get home. I do also believe that its GSM unlocked
Trying to make my XT1526 (Boost stock ROM) work with GSM, and got stuck on something weird. Inserted a SIM card from China Mobile, changed the network mode to "Global" and turned on roaming, after a while it got successfully registered on T-Mobile network, both voice and data. Yet, when I inserted a T-Mobile SIM card, the phone gave an "Invalid SIM card" error, and simply refused to connect. Thought it might be an issue with APN setting, but I couldn't manually add the T-Mo APN to the phone (in fact it wouldn't take any APN).
I think the phone's hardware is capable of LTE/CDMA/GSM. It's a just matter of figuring out the right configuration.
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Trying to make my XT1526 (Boost stock ROM) work with GSM, and got stuck on something weird. Inserted a SIM card from China Mobile, changed the network mode to "Global" and turned on roaming, after a while it got successfully registered on T-Mobile network, both voice and data. Yet, when I inserted a T-Mobile SIM card, the phone gave an "Invalid SIM card" error, and simply refused to connect. Thought it might be an issue with APN setting, but I couldn't manually add the T-Mo APN to the phone (in fact it wouldn't take any APN).
I think the phone's hardware is capable of LTE/CDMA/GSM. It's a just matter of figuring out the right configuration.
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thats a DSU issue. Domestic sim unlock can be tricky
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thats a DSU issue. Domestic sim unlock can be tricky
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Why so tricky? Why? I am truly of no help, I just started the thread. Learning as I go...funny thing. Upon flashing again with the xt1527, and flashing the modem with a different modem software, the phone still shows to be a sprint modem software.
I wonder if the "fastboot oem config carrier" option would do any good?
DSU is tricky because it involved modifying the NV values thats buried in the radio software and it has a similar access issue to SU. I have (among many others) a Sprint S5 (G900P) and achieving DSU on it was the work of some SERIOUS developers. The config carrier might be of some help, but i havent delved into it yet, and im not sure if id fully understand what it means anyways. Additionally, Moto devices are tricky period. I had 2 Razrs (one xt 912 and one xt910), one of them was GSM unlockable and the other wasnt. Motorola mobile phone division has also changed hands recently, so its direction has also changed. Basically, whats needed here is either a ton of forum scouring or a developer to actually pay attention to this device, or a bit of both