Hi there,
I bought a Nexus 9 on the google store when it comes out. I had to change it 4 times in a row due to lightbleed, overheating, backside problem, problems with buttons. Finally I ask for a refund.
When does Google and/or HTC make a Nexus 9 without all these issues ?
When I pay 489 € for something I expect that the product is quality made.
Thanks.
Well, supposedly HTC released a statement saying they fixed the issues, but obviously there's nothing indicating they actually did anything. From what I've been reading here and on Android Central, a bunch of people are reporting luck with the white 16gb versions or either of the 32gb versions. I totally agree on the whole price/quality thing.
Got mine day one and zero issues. There are good ones out there.
I had no issues
No problems at all: Back is good, minimum to no lightbleed.
Only the power button is a bit "loose" on one side
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Well, supposedly HTC released a statement saying they fixed the issues, but obviously there's nothing indicating they actually did anything. From what I've been reading here and on Android Central, a bunch of people are reporting luck with the white 16gb versions or either of the 32gb versions. I totally agree on the whole price/quality thing.
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HTC did no such thing. You're confusing rumors with official statements. The rumor is based off a Reddit post.
no problem
I just got a 32GB WiFi only, not problem at all : the back is firm, no lightbleeding (I didn't notice it), buttons perfect.
I got one from Amazon yesterday. The backlight bleed wasn't bad at all, but the buttons were a bit recessed. I asked for an exchange, and that one arrived today and the backlight bleed is actually a little worse, and buttons more recessed.
That being said, after using the N9 a lot over the day, and comparing to a friends iPad, the backlight bleed isn't bad at all on the first one I got, and I've gotten used to the buttons. The back has one spot with tiny flex, but nothing notable (and impossible to feel once my Devicewear case arrives).
Both units were 32GB White October 17th devices. So far I'm sticking with the first one I got, and so far I'm loving it.
Never had an issue with mine. 32 Gb, black pre-ordered
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I got lucky,
My first had massive bleeding, send back and got a better offer from amazon (returned nexus with damaged package for 150$ off).
Here i had only a very slight bleeding and decided to keep it instead of rolling the dice all over again and maybe never get a better one )
The keys are working but they are awful, first time i appreciate the wakeup by tapping function (normally i dont like functions like this and prefer the hardware button)
overall for the price i got it is ok, the beautiful screen (and i prefer4:3 for reading and working on) but seriously the build quality is awful.
I got my Nexus 9 a few days after it was released from Best Buy so I assume it's of the first revision if there are indeed multiple revisions. I haven't had any problems since day one and am still loving it!
got mine today without any issues thus far. the only thing i'm hating is the freaking slow charging... and this is from someone who has a galaxy note 10.1 2014. at least the gn10.1 would quickly charge to 80% before the slowdown begins. i'm only getting up to ~1000mW using a variety of chargers and cables, including the stock one, anker, samsung's, asus - all the non-htc are 2A or higher.
did have an issue of ripping the back cover off trying to get the damn thing out of the box.
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got mine today without any issues thus far. the only thing i'm hating is the freaking slow charging... and this is from someone who has a galaxy note 10.1 2014. at least the gn10.1 would quickly charge to 80% before the slowdown begins. i'm only getting up to ~1000mW using a variety of chargers and cables, including the stock one, anker, samsung's, asus - all the non-htc are 2A or higher.
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How long is it taking you to get a full charge? It only takes about two hours for me.
woshiweili said:
How long is it taking you to get a full charge? It only takes about two hours for me.
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Haven't had it long enough for a full charge. 1.25hrs and I went from 38% to 64%.
Checking BMW pro the last 30 minutes is where it jumped to 1400mW. It should settle after a few cycles. I got this new at 48%.
madsquabbles said:
Haven't had it long enough for a full charge. 1.25hrs and I went from 38% to 64%.
Checking BMW pro the last 30 minutes is where it jumped to 1400mW. It should settle after a few cycles. I got this new at 48%.
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IMHO, 2-3 hours is pretty quick for a full charge on Nexus 9. What was your expectation?
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IMHO, 2-3 hours is pretty quick for a full charge on Nexus 9. What was your expectation?
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dunno where your math shows 2-3 hours. 1.25hrs = ~24% per hour. then don't forget that just about every tablet trickles at 80%.
check the logs from last night and 63 to 100 took 2h 5m. 63 to 80 took 50min. the last 1h 15m 80 to 100. so going up to 80 really isn't too bad.
2 hours of screen time and i used 9.6% per hour just web browsing, looking at webms and and a little h264 pron:good:... this is with usb's kernel and 0% brightness - i like it dim and this is a bright ass screen!
after a few more discharge cycle we'll see how it settles. it's not as bad as my first impression, just a little quirk on my first 10% taking an hour.
as much as i'd hate carrying a separate charger, i kinda wish they'd start adding a dedicated ac charging port. my samsung 700t used to take 2.5hours 0-100.
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dunno where your math shows 2-3 hours.
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My Nexus 9 takes on average 2.25 hours to charge from 0-10% to 100.
madsquabbles said:
as much as i'd hate carrying a separate charger, i kinda wish they'd start adding a dedicated ac charging port. my samsung 700t used to take 2.5hours 0-100.
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How big is the battery on the 700t?
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My Nexus 9 takes on average 2.25 hours to charge from 0-10% to 100.
How big is the battery on the 700t?
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thanks for the info. we'll see if mine does the same after a few cycles. loving it so far and the battery life's been better than a lot of the reports - my results have generally been better than most because i mainly use it a 0% brightness, no haptic feedback, and location off unless needed (used tasker script for that).
according to some specs it's 6540mah, just a bit less than the nexus 9. the charger output, maybe 30W?? it only ran for 5.5hrs normal use for me. my old 500t took 1.5 hrs and i think it was a 4000mah battery and last 9-12hrs depending on usage.
I believe this type of question on a forum that offers support is useless.
Most people without issues do not look for forums.
do consider, the 9 has a 6700ma/h battery.
It takes a lot longer to fill up that Dodge Ram Dual Axle truck than a Geo Prism.
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Just curious as to what other folks are getting for actual screen on battery time, as in, what do you think you would get in constant screen on usage?
I don't suffer from really bad battery drain, I think I could get a couple of days of light use from it.... but it does fair chomp the battery in use.
I reckon I could completely drain the battery in 3 - 4 hours of constant use of say web browsing, the odd game, texting etc, and am just wondering how that measures up with others; with talk of this device having iphone 4 levels of battery life, my last daily driver was said iphone, and that device managed about 50% longer screen on time, so it doesn't quite match that, but some are saying theirs is better?
I don't have the brightness cranked or anything, and I'm not exactly unhappy, but it probably matches my Incredible S for battery life, and both phones are perhaps slightly better than the Nexus One or Desire, which I didn't think were amazing in that department...
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Just curious as to what other folks are getting for actual screen on battery time, as in, what do you think you would get in constant screen on usage?
I don't suffer from really bad battery drain, I think I could get a couple of days of light use from it.... but it does fair chomp the battery in use.
I reckon I could completely drain the battery in 3 - 4 hours of constant use of say web browsing, the odd game, texting etc, and am just wondering how that measures up with others; with talk of this device having iphone 4 levels of battery life, my last daily driver was said iphone, and that device managed about 50% longer screen on time, so it doesn't quite match that, but some are saying theirs is better?
I don't have the brightness cranked or anything, and I'm not exactly unhappy, but it probably matches my Incredible S for battery life, and both phones are perhaps slightly better than the Nexus One or Desire, which I didn't think were amazing in that department...
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Speaking of battery life while browsing,
http://blog.gsmarena.com/showdown-s...ng-battery-life-championship-not-so-brightly/
Keep in mind the screen is a great deal larger than the iphone 4.
3h of intranet browsing is max for me
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maybe an hour of max, 3 of lowest
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I also got about 3-4 hours with brightness set to 20%. I originally wonder if it's my problem only, as most of you say the battery can easily last for more than 1 day.
In my case, most of the battery is used by the display, given I used each about 1.5 hour before and after work during travel (with display turned on). So 3 hours of display on + some phone call and sms, that will drain the whole battery for me within one day. I think I need to buy a 2nd battery when it is available in Hong Kong.
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I also got about 3-4 hours with brightness set to 20%. I originally wonder if it's my problem only, as most of you say the battery can easily last for more than 1 day.
In my case, most of the battery is used by the display, given I used each about 1.5 hour before and after work during travel (with display turned on). So 3 hours of display on + some phone call and sms, that will drain the whole battery for me within one day. I think I need to buy a 2nd battery when it is available in Hong Kong.
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Yeah same here. Display takes almost 50%. I have automatic brightness set on. I could of course set it to minimum brightness and it would decrese the battery consumption but I think it is ridiculous that I first buy a phone which is praised for its bright display and then I turn it to the darkest. Completely stupid. I tried that quickly and even my old Desire looked better then.
But then I read results like this:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-i9...minutes-of-video-playback-on-a-single-charge/
And I just keep wondering that wtf is wrong with my phone.
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But then I read results like this:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-i9...minutes-of-video-playback-on-a-single-charge/
And I just keep wondering that wtf is wrong with my phone.
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Exactly. I want my phone can have this battery life too.
Same juice hungry Screen here. :-( I never use automatic brightness either. It's set to a really low brightness, byt it's still chewing away on the battery like there's no tomorrow.
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To shorthand it for everyone, the SGS2 came in fourth out of four when using web scripts until the battery dies utilizing the stock browser. Results are:
Web browsing battery life test:
Apple iPhone 4 – 7:40 h
Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc – 5:25 h
Samsung I9100 Galaxy S II – 4:59 h (Opera Mobile browser)
LG Optimus Black – 4:30 h
Samsung I9100 Galaxy S II – 4:22 h (stock browser)
Samsung I9000 Galaxy S – 4:06 h
So since the SGS sucked more, I guess it's the Amoled screen doing them in. They should have used black web pages and the SGS2 would have won.
Actually, if you think about it, the SGS2 is pushing more pixels and has a dual-core processor with hardware acceleration to feed. So at least beating the SGS shows some progress.
Thanks for the comments guys. Good to know it's not just me. It'd be nice to get the same as the arc... So maybe there is room for improvement, but all those who say it can match the iphone are living in dreamland! Saying that, I'll still take the bigger screen, ta! However, certainly reviews like techradars are a little misleading imo.
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...but all those who say it can match the iphone are living in dreamland!
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It'll be interesting to see how the iPhone 5 performs with a bigger screen and dual core processors. At least we don't have to send our phones back to the mother ship to get the batteries replaced when they discharge for $150. Come to think of it, with a pocket full of extra batteries, we'd be able to go 24/7 with a couple of pit stops.
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Come to think of it, with a pocket full of extra batteries, we'd be able to go 24/7 with a couple of pit stops.
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Luckily, the battery is so light that possibly having 1-2 extra batteries won't feel any weight inside the bag. If Samsung can release a "battery" direct charger (instead of charging through the phone itself), it will probably make my life easier.
Anyway, though the battery life is not as good as I originally expect, I still consider this phone as my best phone, EVER.
BarryH_GEG said:
To shorthand it for everyone, the SGS2 came in fourth out of four when using web scripts until the battery dies utilizing the stock browser. Results are:
Web browsing battery life test:
Apple iPhone 4 – 7:40 h
Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc – 5:25 h
Samsung I9100 Galaxy S II – 4:59 h (Opera Mobile browser)
LG Optimus Black – 4:30 h
Samsung I9100 Galaxy S II – 4:22 h (stock browser)
Samsung I9000 Galaxy S – 4:06 h
So since the SGS sucked more, I guess it's the Amoled screen doing them in. They should have used black web pages and the SGS2 would have won.
Actually, if you think about it, the SGS2 is pushing more pixels and has a dual-core processor with hardware acceleration to feed. So at least beating the SGS shows some progress.
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not really, the SGS2 has less pixels than the iphone 4 in that test, for example. and the iphone 4 also is hardware accelerated for browser and all UI elements, so its kinda a close match. smaller screen, but more pixels, but SGS2 has larger battery and AMOLED, so really its matched up.
Galaxy S2 Battery RESPONSE
Hey Guys,
I sold my iphone 4 to purchase the galaxy s2, never owned an Android phone before, I posted a post on the forum about rooting methods for the S2. Before I purchased the phone i did research on batter life and I read most users could do a full day or close to 2 days without charged. They said it had a better battery than the iphone 4 this was the decisive factor which lead me to buy the phone. To come to this post and read that the pone battery last only 4 hours for browsing this is childs play. I feel somewhat cheated and deceived.
Has anyone in the forum here achieved the 24 hour battery best while using the phone in full capacity ? How is this acceptable to you guys, 4 hours ? This is unacceptable.
Thanks
RedCell X
redcellx said:
Hey Guys,
I sold my iphone 4 to purchase the galaxy s2, never owned an Android phone before, I posted a post on the forum about rooting methods for the S2. Before I purchased the phone i did research on batter life and I read most users could do a full day or close to 2 days without charged. They said it had a better battery than the iphone 4 this was the decisive factor which lead me to buy the phone. To come to this post and read that the pone battery last only 4 hours for browsing this is childs play. I feel somewhat cheated and deceived.
Has anyone in the forum here achieved the 24 hour battery best while using the phone in full capacity ? How is this acceptable to you guys, 4 hours ? This is unacceptable.
Thanks
RedCell X
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Yes, I too read of the great battery life of this phone - but not on here - but on reviews from the likes of techradar etc. Very deceiving. That said, I can get through a typical day quite easily on a charge, but it's never going to take on the iphone on battery life no matter what they say.
That said, I think (hope) the situation will improve with more mature firmware.
It is a shame, but for me, its not a dealbreaker, especially as I am always near a power source.
Hello,
Yes I was deceived !!! I feel robbed and cheated. I simply don't know what to say.
RedCell X
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Yes, I too read of the great battery life of this phone - but not on here - but on reviews from the likes of techradar etc. Very deceiving. That said, I can get through a typical day quite easily on a charge, but it's never going to take on the iphone on battery life no matter what they say.
That said, I think (hope) the situation will improve with more mature firmware.
It is a shame, but for me, its not a dealbreaker, especially as I am always near a power source.
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most iPhones do not truly multitask, so they do not waste power. it is also a walled garden, with fewer freedoms, and fewer possibilities to mess up admittedly highly tuned and optimized power management scheme. Remember it is one OS on one piece of hardware, with every component tested and tuned to near-perfection.
and yes, if you set your SGS2 browser at 100% brightness, auto-enable Flash (that will waste power on all those moving ads etc that you are not even looking at), turn on music in the background streaming it to your Bluetooth headphones, enable Gmail sync, Exchange sync, Facebook, GVoice, GTalk, Yahoo Mail, Yahoo Chat, AIM, Twitter, etc, and browse (read mostly black text on mostly white backgrounds) for 2-4 hours, your battery will drain.
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Hello,
Yes I was deceived !!! I feel robbed and cheated. I simply don't know what to say.
RedCell X
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You do not really have to say anything - just return it. Vote with your dollar (or pound, or rupee)
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You do not really have to say anything - just return it. Vote with your dollar (or pound, or rupee)
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This is to KREOXDA,
Hello,
Can you or have you used the sgs2 for 24 hours or more of heavy useage? Can you provide testimony for those who feel limited to the 4 hours of browsing others experience. In respect to your prior post, using your sgs2 surfing with flash OFF, twitter OFF, exchange sync, OFF,Google Voice OFF, BlueTooth OFF, Can you get a full 24 hours usage out of the phone ?
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Yeah same here. Display takes almost 50%. I have automatic brightness set on. I could of course set it to minimum brightness and it would decrese the battery consumption but I think it is ridiculous that I first buy a phone which is praised for its bright display and then I turn it to the darkest. Completely stupid. I tried that quickly and even my old Desire looked better then.
But then I read results like this:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-i9...minutes-of-video-playback-on-a-single-charge/
And I just keep wondering that wtf is wrong with my phone.
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I think the difference may be in scrolling. It doesn't sound like the test included scrolling of web pages - just loading. And I suspect that the super smooth scrolling you get on the SII gives those dual cores a good workout.
I am seriously thinking about returning my Sony Tablet S.
I can't seem to get more than 3 hours out of this without a charge.
I play a full movie with wifi/GPS on and then i am down to 30%.
I do have it rooted and most of the bloat apps is gone. I check the battery indicator constantly and the biggest app using battery seems to be android so nothing is zapping my battery life.
Any ideas?
I think something is wrong with you're tablet, mine lasts for more then 8 hours without root.
So yes, return it and ask for a replacement.
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I think something is wrong with you're tablet, mine lasts for more then 8 hours without root.
So yes, return it and ask for a replacement.
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same as that
Try this app
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024867
If it doesn't work, send to service centre for a check.
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Try and adjust the backlight intensity
When I first used my tablet the battery seemed to be gone in no time. I have found that reducing the backlight manually has helped. I would say there was a definite difference.
Thanks for all the responses.
Problem is this is for my kid. He don't really have the patience to wait for charges every day.
He like to watch movies on the tablet and play some games here and there. Considering he only use it for 3-4 hours a day, this is insane how short the battery is.
I thought i will never say this...but another android guy bite the dust and cross over to the evil apple kingdom (exchanging for the ipad2 with 10 hour battery life).
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Thanks for all the responses.
Problem is this is for my kid. He don't really have the patience to wait for charges every day.
He like to watch movies on the tablet and play some games here and there. Considering he only use it for 3-4 hours a day, this is insane how short the battery is.
I thought i will never say this...but another android guy bite the dust and cross over to the evil apple kingdom (exchanging for the ipad2 with 10 hour battery life).
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so we've all told you that it doesn't sound normal and that you should get much longer out of the device and your answer is "it must be android" rather than a faulty device.......
8 hours to 10 hours on mine, depending on what i do. with and without root, it doesn't change my battery life.
Mine about 8 hours
Had the same issue in the past... Delete all on USB and make a factory reset solved the problem. Now it run up to 8 hours.
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Had the same issue in the past... Delete all on USB and make a factory reset solved the problem. Now it run up to 8 hours.
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Same issue and fix here.
I have decent battery life ( 6+ hours) but one thing that makes me wonder is the idle time.
5 hours of screen time is less power consuming than the tablet being 20 hours in idle. Has anyone the same experience?
Yes. In my case it's the 3G modem. Turn it off generally and only on when you use it.
If I compare this case with my iPad I have to say, that the 3G modem in the sony uses much more energy in idle than in my iPad.
My Tablet is WiFi-only. And WiFi shuts down when the screen goes off.
Battery use:
Tablet idle ------------ 49% --> 15h 8m 57s
Screen---------------- 37% --> 4h 56m 31s
Is this strange behaviour or am I just paranoid since this is a totally different battery usage than on a phone( e.g Sensation)?
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My Tablet is WiFi-only. And WiFi shuts down when the screen goes off.
Battery use:
Tablet idle ------------ 49% --> 15h 8m 57s
Screen---------------- 37% --> 4h 56m 31s
Is this strange behaviour or am I just paranoid since this is a totally different battery usage than on a phone( e.g Sensation)?
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I report the same type of stats...
Its using a lot of battery in sleep mode. But sometimes it doesn't, sometimes sleep mode last way longer but most of the time its about 25-30 hours in sleep mode and that is way too much...
I hope ICS will fix this, if not i may return mine.
And not 2g/3g/4g here, no celular radio here.. So, its not that.
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Had the same issue in the past... Delete all on USB and make a factory reset solved the problem. Now it run up to 8 hours.
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USB??? you mean internal SD card (/mnt/sdcard)?
Yes. That's what I mean.
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Hmm. You do realise playing videos and having the wifi on in the background will cane the battery? Even more so if you're streaming said videos to your device via wifi. No doubt you've got the screen turned up full brightness as well?
Mine runs perfectly well and can last for a couple DAYS between charges, depending of course on how I use it.
Follow the tips provided by the others, you might get a fix. If not, get a new one from Sony. It's not a problem with Android - I suspect if you watch hours and hours of movies on an iPad you will still experience excessive battery drain because of the intensive nature of what you're doing!
Thanks for all the suggestions. If the tablet is for me to use daily, I probably would have condition the battery, try to delete all and then restart. However, it is for my kid and frankly it is unacceptable that a brand new tablet after watching one movie (just regular mp4 file i installed into the internal SD) is down to 30% charge.
I won't even start with the rest of the things i am disappointed with; the missing 6 gigs on the 16 gig, the screen little darker than i wanted (the screen protector I don't like at all), and frankly honeycomb in general is not that crispy and well developed.
I did end up getting a Ipad 2. After watching 1 movie, the thing still got 80% juice left....is night and day. Screen is sharper and brighter and most importantly it last more than a day without charge.
I don't want to hype about ipad here and i am still an android fan (i got 2 android phones), but the ipad really is WOW compared to the current corp of android tablets. Yes i am disappointed i won't be able to "tweak" the ipad like i can with droid pads, but Apple OS is so much better developed than honeycomb or ICS for that matter that really you can live without the tweaking.
For all you guys, with Wi-fi only (and 3G if you like the solution), before putting it to sleep put the device in flight mode. I've done it on mine and it was asleep for 4 days while I went out on a journey and when I came back only 30% of battery was gone...
I honestly can only fault the ipad in the sense that a media device, that for all intensive purposes is basically a more convenient option than a laptop, does not have flash support. Quick web browsing on tablets is great but it's useless without flash :S. Damn apple. Other than that I think the iPad is pretty great, especially now that the pricing for the new iPad has become alot sharper than in the price. Obviously to combat the success of Android tablets of late. But all I want out of a tablet is a bit of web browsing here and there, a couple games now and then and a nice digital photo frame to boot
I don't know about everyone else, but I have no desire to flash the crap out of my Sony tablet like I do with my SGS2. Now that I have root access it's doing everything I wanted it to do (and should have done!) from the start. So long is it's stable and responsive I'll be happy with it for a few years at least.
I was never happy with my tablet from day one but for me it was just software - sluggish and app incompatibility - a factory reset and root has fixed all that now. Never once have I had an issue with battery life. Sure as hell out-does any gameboy/ds/psp I've owned. Standby will last weeks if I don't touch it too.
So to those of you getting around 1-2 days standby time, something is seriously wrong with your tablet. There must either be a fault with your battery itself, or some app has gone rogue and just keeps it awake the whole time. i dont think any type of conditioning your battery will heed any results;
I didn't condition my battery at all when I got it and it's just fine. I played it with the 5% charge it had out of box till it died, got home, charged a bit, played with it till it shut off again, then when it got about 1/2 full just took it off charge and played with it again. Now it normally gets charged every friday whether it needs it or not.
I was so happy holding my Nexus10 in my hands.
But now, I'm pretty disappointed.
My fully charged N10 went down to 8% with Playing 2,5h Need for Speed Most Wanted + 2,5h other Display-on Time (mostly surfing, News App and Facebook Chatting)
I mean, FIVE hours? Come on Google, thats not even half the time I can reach with an Ipad
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I was so happy holding my Nexus10 in my hands.
But now, I'm pretty disappointed.
My fully charged N10 went down to 8% with Playing 2,5h Need for Speed Most Wanted + 2,5h other Display-on Time (mostly surfing, News App and Facebook Chatting)
I mean, FIVE hours? Come on Google, thats not even half the time I can reach with an Ipad
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Ek!
enlan said:
I was so happy holding my Nexus10 in my hands.
But now, I'm pretty disappointed.
My fully charged N10 went down to 8% with Playing 2,5h Need for Speed Most Wanted + 2,5h other Display-on Time (mostly surfing, News App and Facebook Chatting)
I mean, FIVE hours? Come on Google, thats not even half the time I can reach with an Ipad
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You iPad does 10 hours of gaming?
The ipad does have a 11560 mah battery and a screen that needs less back lighting. Also the cpu probably uses a good chunk of the battery on the nexus 10. could you go into the battery info and tell us what percent the display is using?
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ipad-3-benchmark-retina-display,3157-4.html <-- ipad 3 battery life isn't much better.
Sucks
Sorry, but I can run my S3 out in half that time playing a high end game.
Pushing those kind of pixels on a screen that size for 2.5 hours, plus another 2.5 hours of screen on is not bad going.
Further more, you can't possibly have had your N10 long enough yet to have properly charge cycled your battery 4 or 5 times, which builds its stamina.
I received mine at 11am yesterday, on factory charge (it was approx 60%), and playing with it most of the day yesterday, and for several hours last night (although admittedly no gaming) it only reached low battery (3%) when I woke up this morning.
The Display used 61%, need for speed used 21%
2.5h playing, full cpu, moving that amount of pixels, and 2.5h more, it's kinda good, man...
2,5 hours of gaming and 2,5 hours of web browsing? Thats useless for me..
I would say the A15 CPU ist more effiecient compared to previous tabs. Btw remember the high amount of pixel...so it is good
Sorry, misstyped.
It were only 1,5h of need for speed and 2,5h of surfing. So 4h in total!
The concern is that the N10 discharges while gaming even on the charger, why I didn't rush to buy one on first day. Best to always read true user reviews first before hitting the store.
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The concern is that the N10 discharges while gaming even on the charger, why I didn't rush to buy one on first day. Best to always read true user reviews first before hitting the store.
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It's don't really see that as an issue, I own plenty of devices that work like this, if anything its better for your battery, because first, it's slow charging, which is better for the battery, second, it's getting charged cycled even if it's always plugged in, which is good for its lifetime.
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If they had used something other than a micro USB to charge it this would be fine. I saw a pogo charter in a thread but I'm sure it will cost $55++ which is stupid because it should have been standard with the device
4 hours of game/screen time is awful...I can easily get 8-9 out of my Asus infinity gaming/streaming/netflix while only taking 2-3 hours to fully charge. The slow I/o just kills that tablet for me though...
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I had an iPad 3, and now have the Nexus 10. The battery life is a little better on the iPad, but not hugely so. That's with both devices at full brightness.
I can get 6-7 hours out of the Nexus and I was getting maybe 8 out of the iPad. Hardly a massive deal, especially considering this is a considerably lighter device with a bigger screen. Who has 6 hours a day to sit on their tablet anyway? I know if I did, I wouldn't have had to money to buy it in the first place!
As for charging: Yes, it's slow. It was also just as slow on my ipad. Am I missing something here? If you guys are seeing that as a deal-breaker, my advice is to stay well away from the iPad!
Ta,
Any tips and tricks when I get my device to help the battery? Aka a full night of charge out the box etc?
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Any tips and tricks when I get my device to help the battery? Aka a full night of charge out the box etc?
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It's not that bad.
Mine was 60 out of the box, plugged into wall and came back 2 hours later it was fully fine
Swype'd at pace from my Galaxy S2
I think it's always a good idea to run the unit ONCE until it shuts off as soon as possible after getting it, just so you really know where zero is. It's not conditioning, just a way to help with calibration.
It's been my experience that new Android devices can run for many minutes after the battery meter was showing 0-1%. In one case it was over an hour (Tab 8.9).
Ok....I feel absolutely stupid and must be missing something but...how can I check the screen on time? It is just not listed under Battery as it is on the Xoom or the Galaxy Nexus for example
Click on the Display Entry in your Battery statstic!
Battery life usually improves after a few complete discharge/full recharge cycles.
What's the output on the bundled charger, 1A, 2A?
Anyhow, it's a trade-off. With the Nexus 10 you get the best screen and the most powerful tablet so I can live with the battery life. Plus, I'll be alternating between it and a Galaxy Note 10.1 as one charges.
After looking at several posts in XDA and Reddit, it seems that the BLOD or BootLoop of Death is happening to devices everyday as we approach the 2 year mark of the N6P release. Seems like a hardware issue or maybe a combination of both. My question is that do you guys think that this issue is actually a large number of lemons or that there is really a design flaw. Will all 6Ps eventually BLOD? Is it a matter of If or When?
Also it seems that the batteries were indeed pretty bad, with 4 users that I know personally all experiencing the degradation.
Well, it's not all 6P's. I bought my 6P last January 18 months + and I still get 6.5 to 7 hours of screen on time. Using Accubattery my estimated capacity is still 88% 3,028mah. I can run my phone to 10% no reboots or shut downs. It's really in how you take care of your battery.
And before you ask, no I haven't changed my battery out. I've never opened my phone due to the fact I want to sell it soon and afraid they heat gun would warp things on the phone.
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I haven't changed my battery out. I've never opened my phone due to the fact I want to sell it soon and afraid they heat gun would warp things on the phone.
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Curious if you've seen or heard anything that'd validate your fear... it's certainly reasonable to be cautious, and it does NOT look like an easy process by any means but why the heat gun? It's a very common tool to use for jobs like this.
But to be clear, I too worry the phone won't look/feel the same after a successful battery replacement.
Of course skill levels vary greatly.
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Curious if you've seen or heard anything that'd validate your fear... it's certainly reasonable to be cautious, and it does NOT look like an easy process by any means but why the heat gun? It's a very common tool to use for jobs like this.
But to be clear, I too worry the phone won't look/feel the same after a successful battery replacement.
Of course skill levels vary greatly.
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I've seen or heard nothing, but since I'm upgrading to OP5 I was going to sell my 6P to help cover some costs. Looks like they are still selling for about 300-350. That's a nice chunk off the 540 of the OP5. My phone shows zero signs of wear and have never once dropped a phone. It looks like it came out of the box last night and plan to keep it that way for sale.
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I've seen or heard nothing, but since I'm upgrading to OP5 I was going to sell my 6P to help cover some costs. Looks like they are still selling for about 300-350. That's a nice chunk off the 540 of the OP5. My phone shows zero signs of wear and have never once dropped a phone. It looks like it came out of the box last night and plan to keep it that way for sale.
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Gotcha. And thats a hell of a deal! I've been thinking of upgrading, OP5 is really tempting. If I got $350 for my 6p itd be like a 45% discount. Much better than the trade-ins carriers give you.
Edit-No it's like a 70% discount! $539 for 128 gb 8gb ram. For some reason I thought the base model came in at around $700
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Well, it's not all 6P's. I bought my 6P last January 18 months + and I still get 6.5 to 7 hours of screen on time. Using Accubattery my estimated capacity is still 88% 3,028mah. I can run my phone to 10% no reboots or shut downs. It's really in how you take care of your battery.
And before you ask, no I haven't changed my battery out. I've never opened my phone due to the fact I want to sell it soon and afraid they heat gun would warp things on the phone.
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Really glad to see that you've preserved your battery well. I had to repair/replace my mobo and battery under warranty but I'm worried that the issues will happen again eventually due to poor manufacturing.
I just saw this over at the google tracker and wanted to share it.
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/37130791#comment598
[email protected] <[email protected]> #597 Jun 24, 2017 07:53AM
For those of you hit with this problem and who have been denied warranty or are having no joy with either Google or Huawei, I have found a solution, albeit not the best of solutions but one that will have at least have a 60% chance of bringing back to life your Nexus 6P.
So after running some solid tests over the last week and abit on a few Nexus devices hit with the BLOD, I have found the following:
* BLOD Issue is not a software related Issue, Well not in full only in part, 6.0.1 handles and reacts to the sudden voltage drop that happens with the shockingly bad battery in our phones, it reacts to the loss differently so something changed in the newer versions 7.X.X that must trigger the battery to do something different and then causes the phone to BLOD, though the 6.X.X train was not entirely immune from it, the phone would hold up longer.
* Through various tests both with electronic hardware and software on the phone, you can physically watch the battery health drop sharply on a daily basis, these batteries are really that bad.
* The OEM Battery is a POS, when it gets put under load the Voltage tanks and tanks sharply, when it is not under heavy load and running at <31deg/cel the phone will work but only if the following conditions are meet... (1) The motherboard has not been fried by the battery shorting it out, a small IC chip appears to get damanged by it from what we can tell when we did testing on about 4 phones, but not on every phone or (2) the battery health is well enough to keep powering the phone.
* Here is where the problem gets interesting, the more the battery gets put under load, the more it degrades and rapidly, my current Nexus 6P 128GB Frost White version which is getting replaced on Monday by Google is down to 36% battery health, meaning if it drops below 60% battery life the phone just shuts down, so to prevent it from going into bootloop I have to keep it above 60% and each day the battery health is dropping even more roughly a 1% very two to three days at the moment.
* So we decided to put in a Generic battery into one of the 64GB versions that is stuck on BLOD, and it was nothing more than a battery from HK some cheap no-name of eBay, and BOOM! The phone boots up and comes to life again...
* However I have noticed a pattern on three devices I tested this on over the last week, I think the original battery at some point ends up damaging the PCB (Motherboard) and from what we could observer this would be the norm, if your battery is spiking and doing all sorts of things it shouldn't be, it has the potential to fry other components. There isthree of us doing these tests with one being an electronics engineer and the other two of us just being tech heads who repairs phones as a hobby.
* Now if we put back in the OEM battery, guess what? The phone would not boot up, it would just BLOD and on the meters the battery would just spray out wild voltage and all over the joint, these are really crap and awefully bad batteries that Huawei have put in the Nexus 6P, In fact we are not sure why they dont blow up like the Note 7 phones did, given how erradic the voltage spikes are.
* I can safely say that the Huawei made Nexus 6P has a huge problem with the installed battery, which by extension is also causing electronics to fail if it gets caught in the BLOD for too long and overheats the phone. My advise, if your phone goes into BLOD then don't strain, stop using it stright away, dont stree the phone too much, get the battery replaced ASAP, find someone who knows how to open it and replae the battery inside of it with a $7-$16 battery that you can get of eBay, this will at least bring your phone back to life.
I have spent about $400 on testing this to get to the bottom of it, having to buy batteries, run multiple tests, and also buy broken Nexus 6P Phones, at least I can get some of it back by selling the phones that have been brought back to life I guess.
Good Luck peeps, and my advice is to stay away from any Huawei Phones, because if has happened to this phone which was supposed to be a flagship, then it can happen to other Huawei phones if they are using the same or similar batteries, unless they knew all along and have changed them.... Which now makes me wnt to buy other broken Huawei phones and see if they have changed them.
Cheers,
David.
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Really glad to see that you've preserved your battery well. I had to repair/replace my mobo and battery under warranty but I'm worried that the issues will happen again eventually due to poor manufacturing.
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Yeah, fortunately I haven't had any issues with hardware on my phone. I'm curious if we'd ever see numbers hardware failure rate.
I've loved my 6P. I'm gonna miss the front facing speakers and QHD display. I may not notice the difference in 1440p to 1080p done I don't need with VR.
I share the same experience as Eric214, I have the phone since November 2015, my Accubattery show 93% 3191, I have all update installed thru OTA. Never rooted or installed custom ROM, here is my stat from Accubattery
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Well, it's not all 6P's. I bought my 6P last January 18 months + and I still get 6.5 to 7 hours of screen on time. Using Accubattery my estimated capacity is still 88% 3,028mah. I can run my phone to 10% no reboots or shut downs. It's really in how you take care of your battery.
And before you ask, no I haven't changed my battery out. I've never opened my phone due to the fact I want to sell it soon and afraid they heat gun would warp things on the phone.
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I have literally never gotten that much sot on this phone, I feel like even if I didn't install any apps and left it in airplane mode I still wouldn't.
My new s7 edge gets me crazy battery life, but the 6p has been disappointing as far as battery life goes.
I think the bootloops and battery dissipation are caused by overheating of the 810, though that's just my professional opinion. Components don't like heat, especially when packed so closely together.
I had this battery issue after 14 months, replaced it 10 days ago - AccuBattery said my battery had something about 40%, now it says 101%. Everything back to normal.
Funny thing is: a month ago, AccuBattery showed 88% as well, everything working fine. Suddenly, 52% and the shutdowns began (no BLOD). I lived with this scenario for 15 days (battery health going down fast), almost bought an iPhone to replace it. Digging around I found a post from a Brazilian dude that brought its N6P back to life buying a battery from a given seller in a known online platform here and I decided to give it a try - battery and replacement costed 12% of what I paid on my phone. I expect to have it working until Pixel 2 pops up.
I'm in the group that after just 14 months my battery is at 67% of it original capacity and my SOT is around 2 hours. The worse battery performance of any phone I've ever owned. And I take care of my battery rarely will I let it drop below 60%, as I try to avoid deep discharges that harm battery longevity.
But no boot looping thus far.
as for the long post mentioning updates from MM to Nougat, i believe that the only thing i defintely did notice was with the battery behavior, the first weeks it took much longer to fully charge the battery , and it freaked me out.
now it is kind of normal again, i rooted my 6p the day i have got it haha.
i love flashing custom roms/kernels.
had the 6p for about 10 months now, i love it and really hope that it won't let me down quick.
at least another year would be nice, or 2.
So according to what @cyberedward mentioned from Google tracker replacing EOL battery with new Huawei made battery is like setting timer in a time bomb to another value ...
I don't know if they'll all bootloop but the battery is crap. After my experience that I documented in another thread, Id doubt anyone who's used the phone for a year has a battery thats holding anywhere close to full capacity.
Mine also shuts down at 20%. Now 4 days out of warranty. I'm gonna fight with the people at Huawei to get it replaced but best case scenario, I have to find a temporary phone for however long it takes to get it fixed.
3 year old phone?-I guess cut your loses.
But within a year?... complete BS! It's defective and they should recall them all.
***And to the OPs original question--what sucks is theres no known cause for the bootloop so you could get the battery fixed and within days, weeks, months you might also deal with that.
My N6 is almost four years old. Running LineageOS 15.1 for now.
1. Screen-on time is awful. OK, if I have 120 minutes till it dead meat.
2. Less than 50% battery results in very likely self-switch off. Sometimes it can be rebooted, sometimes not. Power connection resolves the problem.
So I decided to change the battery. It took 2 hours. 20 minutes of the actual work and for about 100 minutes I looked for a proper T4-screwdriver I put somewhere.
New battery = same situation. Nothing changed. The battery I ordered from the USA and it wasn't cheapest on eBay. I ordered two batteries actually.
Resuming I see the problem, not in battery or not totally in the battery. Looks like the problem in the aging power distribution subsystem. Capacitors etc.
This phone may be cleverly designed to hold a very specific timespan. It's time to retire.
Thinking about OnePlus 6?
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My N6 is almost four years old. Running LineageOS 15.1 for now.
1. Screen-on time is awful. OK, if I have 120 minutes till it dead meat.
2. Less than 50% battery results in very likely self-switch off. Sometimes it can be rebooted, sometimes not. Power connection resolves the problem.
So I decided to change the battery. It took 2 hours. 20 minutes of the actual work and for about 100 minutes I looked for a proper T4-screwdriver I put somewhere.
New battery = same situation. Nothing changed. The battery I ordered from the USA and it wasn't cheapest on eBay. I ordered two batteries actually.
Resuming I see the problem, not in battery or not totally in the battery. Looks like the problem in the aging power distribution subsystem. Capacitors etc.
This phone may be cleverly designed to hold a very specific timespan. It's time to retire.
Thinking about OnePlus 6?
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I recently bought a N6 in great condition because I was refunded my money for my Nexus 6P. The phone did need a battery replacement though. It throttled under 40% and had early shutdowns.
I changed the battery (Cameron Sino) and modded my frame and back while I was at it.
The phone does run smoother (although no matter what rom I try, it always slows down to an unusable pace after a week or two) and stopped throttling.
I however do not get anywhere close to the SOT some of you guys are getting.
The most I could get is probably 2h30m if I'm lucky. Mostly I get around 1h30m to 2h.
I really want to get this fixed because I plan to use my N6 until the new Pixels arrive (which is still a long time).
I do have my Moto 360 connected but this is not the problem. I ran a clean rom install without my watch connected and bluetooth disabled and did not get more battery life out of it.
Edit: I'm running Nitrogen OS at the moment.
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I recently bought a N6 in great condition because I was refunded my money for my Nexus 6P. The phone did need a battery replacement though. It throttled under 40% and had early shutdowns.
I changed the battery (Cameron Sino) and modded my frame and back while I was at it.
The phone does run smoother (although no matter what rom I try, it always slows down to an unusable pace after a week or two) and stopped throttling.
I however do not get anywhere close to the SOT some of you guys are getting.
The most I could get is probably 2h30m if I'm lucky. Mostly I get around 1h30m to 2h.
I really want to get this fixed because I plan to use my N6 until the new Pixels arrive (which is still a long time).
I do have my Moto 360 connected but this is not the problem. I ran a clean rom install without my watch connected and bluetooth disabled and did not get more battery life out of it.
Edit: I'm running Nitrogen OS at the moment.
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I'm deep in concern Moto implemented the N6 radio module or the radio flash or vendor or any other proprietary in the way to interfere with a proper day to day work.
Artificial aging promotes us to buy new devices every 2-3 years. But from the performance point, our 32bit N6 is still adequate.
Would be happy to get it to my kid instead of buying another device for him. He already killed my old Note 2 and close to do the same with J7.
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I'm deep in concern Moto implemented the N6 radio module or the radio flash or vendor or any other proprietary in the way to interfere with a proper day to day work.
Artificial aging promotes us to buy new devices every 2-3 years. But from the performance point, our 32bit N6 is still adequate.
Would be happy to get it to my kid instead of buying another device for him. He already killed my old Note 2 and close to do the same with J7.
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I had a similar problem on the Nexus 5 a while back. What I did was to put the phone in recovery and let it drain till the battery wore out then charge it back to full while still in recovery. It took a while but seemed to stop the battery from both shutting down early or reaching 0% prematurely. Sounds weird I'm sure but it had an affect. Nothing to lose to try it.
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My N6 is almost four years old. Running LineageOS 15.1 for now.
1. Screen-on time is awful. OK, if I have 120 minutes till it dead meat.
2. Less than 50% battery results in very likely self-switch off. Sometimes it can be rebooted, sometimes not. Power connection resolves the problem.
So I decided to change the battery. It took 2 hours. 20 minutes of the actual work and for about 100 minutes I looked for a proper T4-screwdriver I put somewhere.
New battery = same situation. Nothing changed. The battery I ordered from the USA and it wasn't cheapest on eBay. I ordered two batteries actually.
Resuming I see the problem, not in battery or not totally in the battery. Looks like the problem in the aging power distribution subsystem. Capacitors etc.
This phone may be cleverly designed to hold a very specific timespan. It's time to retire.
Thinking about OnePlus 6?
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I had a similar experience, changed out the battery in my device back in March. Performance is marginally better, but it still turns off at or around 15%. Nothing new out there to entice me yet, though Best Buy does have a great deal on the Pixel 2 XL with Verizon right now.
I was thinking about what it is about the Nexus 6 that has kept me with it for longer than any other phone. I decided that one of the many things I like is the 16:9 aspect ratio. The phone is thick, for sure, but 16:9 is just right. Not sure if I am ready for the 19:9 or 18.5:9 or whatever else is going on out there.
I just keep my phone plugged in at work, helps me get through the day both battery and performance wise.
are the ones getting shutdowns sub 40 on oero? i have that problem on every oero rom i try so i keep going back to nougat
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are the ones getting shutdowns sub 40 on oero? i have that problem on every oero rom i try so i keep going back to nougat
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i was having that problem on nougat around 40% ( pure nexus), used it for over 6 months, moved to oreo for couple of weeks. both aosip and lineage os. its worse. i am afraid to let it go bellow 70 because its my daily driver and i don't have a back up phone right now. i am not even rooted now because it adds to instability.
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Within a week of my last Post it was so bad that I had to have the phone plugged in all the time. If unplugged phone would turn off around 95%. If I pull down quick setting bar it would shut off immediately. So I get a battery and replaced the old one. Took me an hour and half to fully charge more than 2 days ago. I'm not really using it. Off and on I would turn it on to check emails, browse little bit, play some videos etc. I'm at 11 percent now. Battery saver turned on at 15%. More than 4.5 jour sot.
At 9 percent now, no shut down yet. Not even one. I'll plug it in now.
Another thing I recently discovered is that revootimg into safe mode and then rebooting back in to regular mode clears up some issues. Anyone having random shutdown issues might want to try this. It seems to have good results so far for me. Phone is now more fluid than it has been since I bought it.
It's time, darling...
Donated my N6 to my kid. Bought OnePlus 6 for myself and 5 for my fem. My old N6 reflashed stock and it looses battery pretty quickly. Will try to do all those recommendations from above...
have any of you tried rebooting to bootloader, selecting Bootloader Logs and holding the power button down till it reboots trick?
For my N6 i put 2 battery in parrallel, and i got more than 8hours screen on !
But no more back-plastic-plate..
At least, i can handle a big day
For charging i'm force to use only fast-charge charger, under 800ma it take 20hours for full charge ! (5h in 5v1500ma and 1hours at 9v2A )
Lineage 16 - Popcorn Kernel + undervolt cpu -30mv*
Problem solved, at least 1more year with this phone for only 15$
riwan15 said:
For my N6 i put 2 battery in parrallel, and i got more than 8hours screen on !
But no more back-plastic-plate..
At least, i can handle a big day
For charging i'm force to use only fast-charge charger, under 800ma it take 20hours for full charge ! (5h in 5v1500ma and 1hours at 9v2A )
Lineage 16 - Popcorn Kernel + undervolt cpu -30mv*
Problem solved, at least 1more year with this phone for only 15$
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can u share how do you do that, i plan to buy a new battery and if it is easy to mod i want to use both 2 batt like u
ponichia said:
can u share how do you do that, i plan to buy a new battery and if it is easy to mod i want to use both 2 batt like u
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Just buy 2 new battery, verify the voltage (they have to be the same before soldering) on one diconnect the BMS and use your soldering tool to put the two battery in parrallel
Keep using one BMS for connecting to the phone
You'll have to cut the plastic to fit the two battery, and you'll never be able to put the battery cache again of course, use some tape of your favorite color to protect the back ( if you don't put tape you will cut the BMS cable or damage the button connector )
That's all ?
Just want to share my experience...My nexus6 used as backup phone got same problem. I only use to stream live video and need to connect it to charger or powerbank to avoid random reboot. Then, last month I accidentally found e-commerce shop sell N6 battery around [email protected] and I tried my luck to change the battery... after changing to new battery and used almost 3weeks I found no more random reboot but battery life is not great in idle (using android9 custom rom) then I switch to android 8 custom rom..idle is improved but sot only can get 3hours only. Check with accubatery shows 3100mah...