Like the thread says, wondering if anyone has been using Tasker and their Z3V. More specifically, has anyone used a profile to activate/deactivate WiFi tethering using Tasker?
I'm coming from a Galaxy Nexus, very hesitant on getting a new phone on VZW as it seems like our selection is limited to rootable/unlockable phones. The Nexus 6 seems to be buggy, and too large. The Z3V seems like a great phone but it being unlockable is making me hesitant on buying it. I obviously would like to remove all the bloatware but it seems like most of you guys here are loving the phone regardless of Root/Unlock.
The main thing I use my phone for is automated WiFi tethering (activating my hotspot) when I get into my car. I just want to make sure this feature will still work on the Z3V without root access using Tasker and/or Secure Settings.
Thanks in advance!
Edit: Bought the phone, setup a profile with Tasker and Secure Settings. Works like a charm!!!
I'm using tasker for Auto Off Unpaired Bluetooth and automated Wi-Fi when nearing two saved points (home and work).
I'm still working out the latter, but I still need some help in that. And it seems the auto Bluetooth profile is a bit glitchy and shuts off my Bluetooth overall when I connect both my Smartband and SBH50 headset together. I'd appreciate to get some input as well.
Anyhow, I can pretty much confirm root is not needed for tasker.
Thanks for the response. Do you mind creating a temporary profile to see if it works without root? You can have anything trigger like if connecting to a Bluetooth device, then automatically start WiFi tethering. My main concern is if WiFi tethering works in Tasker without root. If so, I'm buying this phone!!!
ConanOBrien said:
Thanks for the response. Do you mind creating a temporary profile to see if it works without root? You can have anything trigger like if connecting to a Bluetooth device, then automatically start WiFi tethering. My main concern is if WiFi tethering works in Tasker without root. If so, I'm buying this phone!!!
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A lot of the tasker profiles can be used without root on the phone. It's only a few more advanced and technical profiles that will tell prior to use that it will require root.
Even without tasker, the phone can greatly alone as it is to last you quite about two days of moderate use.
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A lot of the tasker profiles can be used without root on the phone. It's only a few more advanced and technical profiles that will tell prior to use that it will require root.
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Right, and root access is not required to enable WiFi tethering, however, I am using a custom ROM which has WiFi tethering enabled. I'm just not sure if the Z3V will have WiFi tethering enabled on the stock ROM (in which case it would be "x"ed out in tasker if not available).
Even without tasker, the phone can greatly alone as it is to last you quite about two days of moderate use.
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From all the reviews, that's what it seems like, there's no other waterproof phones that I want. The Samsung phones all bother me with their "back" button on the WRONG SIDE :laugh:
Thanks for the input, appreciate it!
Just wanted to update everyone, that tasker with secure settings does indeed work to activate mobile hotspot. This phone (bloatware and all) has been great so far. No regrets on the purchase!
ConanOBrien said:
Just wanted to update everyone, that tasker with secure settings does indeed work to activate mobile hotspot. This phone (bloatware and all) has been great so far. No regrets on the purchase!
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Glad you jumped on board. It's only a matter of time to be patient for the lollipop release.
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Glad you jumped on board. It's only a matter of time to be patient for the lollipop release.
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I just hope it's not as buggy as people are reporting on the Nexus 6. The phone is great working as is right now LOL
One thing I'm curious is what other people could add to this phone with Tasker? The wifi location sort of thing isn't working 100% well with me, and I look at a lot of other profiles to see that the phone could already d most of it itself.
@ConanOBrien What do you usually use besides your tethering?
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One thing I'm curious is what other people could add to this phone with Tasker? The wifi location sort of thing isn't working 100% well with me, and I look at a lot of other profiles to see that the phone could already d most of it itself.
@ConanOBrien What do you usually use besides your tethering?
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The main one is enabling WiFi tethering when I get in my car. Note, that WiFi tethering does not work natively with tasker. It shows enabled but when you actually select it, it will give you an error and turn into a red-X. There are probably other features that show they're enabled but when you click it will show the red-X. In order to get tethering to work, I had to use the Secure Settings plugin.
What's the WiFi location issue you're referring to?
I'm currently only using tasker for tethering for my Z3V. I am going to create one to activate/deactivate WiFi when it detects I'm at home/leaving home.
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The main one is enabling WiFi tethering when I get in my car. Note, that WiFi tethering does not work natively with tasker. It shows enabled but when you actually select it, it will give you an error and turn into a red-X. There are probably other features that show they're enabled but when you click it will show the red-X. In order to get tethering to work, I had to use the Secure Settings plugin.
What's the WiFi location issue you're referring to?
I'm currently only using tasker for tethering for my Z3V. I am going to create one to activate/deactivate WiFi when it detects I'm at home/leaving home.
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Yeah that's exactly it right there. Activating and deactivating Wi-Fi when I'm at home or leaving home. It disconnects and not re-enable when I'm at home after deep sleep. I follow the exact profiles/tasks posted online, but it's not successful.
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Yeah that's exactly it right there. Activating and deactivating Wi-Fi when I'm at home or leaving home. It disconnects and not re-enable when I'm at home after deep sleep. I follow the exact profiles/tasks posted online, but it's not successful.
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Ahh interesting. I will give it a shot next week and let you know my findings.
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I've written a widget to establish a PAN connection between the Nook a phone. It grabs the first networking-capable device it finds in the list of pairings. A couple of things to note:
There is an application. All it will do is show you what device, if any, it can connect to. It has to turn on Bluetooth to get the list, but it will politely ask you before doing so.
The widget will turn on Bluetooth, but it isn't so polite. For the life of me, I can't find a code snippet nor can I think of one that will start the polite activity (or any activity) from a widget that doesn't directly involve a button press. If anyone has such a snippet, I'd love to see it. I know its possible because the Bluetooth GPS widget does it. Fixed!
The widget, of course, requires root.
I do send a Toast when the process is complete, but toast from my widget isn't reliable. I need to figure that out, too... advice is welcome. Fixed!
Still to do: Monitor the connection and reflect the status in the widget. Fixed!
If nothing else, it's prettier than a GSCript script. Once it's stable and complete, I'll stick it in the marketplace.
Note... You must be running CM7 and you must have already paired the phone before you can use this....
Apr-13: New version with better Bluetooth device state management.
Apr-17: Added connection monitoring, polite Bluetooth enabling
Note: The pop-up to grant superuser access is asynchronous, so there may be a timing window on first use where state is not correctly monitored. I'll try to work that out, but in the meantime, all subsequent uses should work.
The icon will display a yellow LED during the connection process and a green one once the connection is going.
If a connection could not be established, the LED may go briefly green, then turn off. The challenge is that the only way I can monitor the connection is with "pand -l" or "ifconfig bnep0" and if the connection is gone, the attempt to read the result from those commands simply hangs. So, I start a thread and then periodically run "pand -l". A different thread monitors the first and, if it looks stuck, I kill the process and turn off the LED. But, until I can be sure it's really stuck and not just taking time to answer, the LED will be green. Fixed!
Obviously, once the connection is broken, the LED will go off.
Since I have the LED, I've taken out most of the toast, though some still comes from the OS.
Apr-19 Fixed the widget graphics so the LED turns off instead of disappearing. Fixed the green-before-failed connection status issue. Added a proper toggle -- if the connection is off, tapping the widget turns it on and if the connection is on, tapping the widget turns it off.
Apr-20 The official version is now in the Market:
https://market.android.com/details?id=earlmagnus.nctether
May-27 Fixed a null pointer issue discovered by Ophbalance
As always, feedback is welcome.
Could you accomplish the blue tooth polite toggle with a conditional method?
Check blue tooth status,
if off, direct user to settings-> blue tooth
I know thats not as cool as a nice button press
Downloadin ur app now!
One other oddness...
... Android doesn't seem to think the tethered connection is worthy of note. If you start the browser after being connected, you'll be told you have no connection. Pages will load perfectly well, anyway.
sinanju said:
... Android doesn't seem to think the tethered connection is worthy of note. If you start the browser after being connected, you'll be told you have no connection. Pages will load perfectly well, anyway.
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I'm pretty sure it's because Android does not natively have bluetooth DUN capabilities, at least input-wise; it's based on functions within custom kernels, and therefore the system does not recognize it as a connection capable of fueling GApps.
But I could be completely wrong / that information could be outdated; this is from my research into Bluetooth DUN for my Nook when I first got it a while ago, and I'm not much of a developer. I'd more call myself someone who likes dabbling with code, and watching everything break.
But back to this post's point: thank you so much, you are a god. I've been looking for an easier way to do this for so damn long.
Kudos, sir. Kudos.
This is very promising! Now, what is the feasibility of adding Bluetooth DUN support? A number of phones out there (to include Blackberries) do not support PAN. I've done a lot of googling and have come across one resource, which may or may not be useful: https://github.com/wertarbyte/android_vendor_cyanogen/blob/omni-tether/prebuilt/common/bin/tether
The "pand" binary is included with the CM7 ROM, but "dund" is not. How much effort would be involved in adding this functionality?
Thanks in advance and appreciate any guidance..
exactly what i was looking for.
Thanks a lot for this. Will be installing and tethering to my iphone via mywii
I will report back with results.
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This is very promising! Now, what is the feasibility of adding Bluetooth DUN support? A number of phones out there (to include Blackberries) do not support PAN. I've done a lot of googling and have come across one resource, which may or may not be useful: https://github.com/wertarbyte/android_vendor_cyanogen/blob/omni-tether/prebuilt/common/bin/tether
The "pand" binary is included with the CM7 ROM, but "dund" is not. How much effort would be involved in adding this functionality?
Thanks in advance and appreciate any guidance..
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DUN is in a whole different ballpark. I don't know what's involved.
Thanks, folks, for trying it out. I have an idea for monitoring connection status, but other than some POC work, I probably won't get to it before the weekend.
It doesn't work for me, it says tethering then tethered and then starts tethring again and this goes on quite sm time and then the internet doesn't work, i really needed this:-(
am running pherimod 5.3 and trying to tether with sony erricsion's k530i which has bluetooth networking.
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It doesn't work for me, it says tethering then tethered and then starts tethring again and this goes on quite sm time and then the internet doesn't work, i really needed this:-(
am running pherimod 5.3 and trying to tether with sony erricsion's k530i which has bluetooth networking.
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Does the application show the the phone and its BT address?
Is there a particular app you have to start on the phone before you begin tethering and, if so, does it show status if a link is established?
EDIT: Also... have you used the phone for tethering before with a laptop? Do you know tethering should work?
For the life of me, I can't think of anything that would make it loop through connection attempts other than mashing the widget repeatedly.
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Does the application show the the phone and its BT address?
Is there a particular app you have to start on the phone before you begin tethering and, if so, does it show status if a link is established?
EDIT: Also... have you used the phone for tethering before with a laptop? Do you know tethering should work?
For the life of me, I can't think of anything that would make it loop through connection attempts other than mashing the icon repeatedly.
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Yes phone and address are both shown, i start tethring by taping the widget and as for the status i see nothng xcpt bluetooth icon, which shows that both the devices are connected. But am trying this with a gprs connection. i havent tried 3g yet, will that be any different?
Yes the phone has bluetooth tethring, the pc suite has a module for bluetooth internet.
I've attached a new version in the OP. Have a try.
I've improved managing the Bluetooth device. Final state of the connection still isn't reported... that will have to wait.
I would remove the widget and uninstall the old app before installing the new version.
Hm... pand --nodetach doesn't do what I hoped it would in a --connect context... So much for that idea.
I'm trying to use this app to tether my nook to my moto Droid. When I tap the widget it says there's no paired PAN device. I've tethered these two before using the pand command, so I know it's possible. Am I doing something wrong? The droid and nook are "paired but not connected", but every Bluetooth device has said that.
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I'm trying to use this app to tether my nook to my moto Droid. When I tap the widget it says there's no paired PAN device. I've tethered these two before using the pand command, so I know it's possible. Am I doing something wrong? The droid and nook are "paired but not connected", but every Bluetooth device has said that.
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They were probably paired while the droid wasn't advertising the profile. I rely on the list of paired devices knowing which is the network provider.
Try this:
- Remove the Droid from the list of paired devices on the Nook
- Enable visibility on the Droid
- Get the Droid ready for a PAN connection
- Then, from the Nook, initiate pairing
That should ensure the Nook sees the Droid can provide a network connection.
Now I just need my phone to just advertise the bluetooth network without having to run wifi tether.
painter_ said:
Now I just need my phone to just advertise the bluetooth network without having to run wifi tether.
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Nothing WiFi related will help you.
My WinMo 6.5 phone just shows a list of nearly a dozen profiles it supports, PAN being one of them. My suggesting about getting the phone ready for PAN before pairing came from my experience setting up my Ubuntu system as a tethering client. Both that and the Nook recognized the PAN profile when I did that.
The only app I could find that supports bluetooth tethering and is reliable on my HTC Hero is wifi tether set up in bluetooth mode. I have been using it for over a year with my netbook.
What would make the bluetooth tethering the cat's ass would be to not to have to start anything on the phone, for the connection to always be available so i could just wip out the nook and be able to use the data connection.
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The only app I could find that supports bluetooth tethering and is reliable on my HTC Hero is wifi tether set up in bluetooth mode. I have been using it for over a year with my netbook.
What would make the bluetooth tethering the cat's ass would be to not to have to start anything on the phone, for the connection to always be available so i could just wip out the nook and be able to use the data connection.
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Can't help you there... that's up to the phone.
In my case, it's an HTC Topaz and I have to start an app on that, too...
I am happy to report it works well with mywii running on my iphone and tethering from the nook.
Did not have any issues at all. And yes, i did have to hold my iphone the right way
I am wondering what the magic trick is to tethering?? I have tried literally every wireless/wired tether app out there and nothing is consistent. To get it to connect to my desktop wirelessly, I have to enable it, then connect on my desktop, then disable it, disconnect on my desktop, then enable and connect again. This is every single time. Web pages load about the same as my ATT dsl, downloads are a LITTLE faster, and other third-party programs (Skype, Halo 2, etc.) magically stop for no reason at random times, all this while my phone is just sitting on my desk next to my desktop and I haven't touched a thing, not to mention I do frequent speed tests right after these programs quit and I am still getting 11mbps-16mbps down......WAYYYYY faster than my horrible ATT dsl, which tops out at about 5.10mbps down.
I really really really want to dump my DSL and just tether from my phone to save $20/mo, but this is incredibly frustrating......wondering what the magic trick is to get it to work more solidly?
BTW, my Thunderbolt is running LiquidSmooth AOSP 3.0 ROM and my desktop is a Dell XPS 8100, Intel i7 processor with 2.8Ghz and 8gb of RAM, if that helps.
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To get it to connect to my desktop wirelessly, I have to enable it, then connect on my desktop, then disable it, disconnect on my desktop, then enable and connect again.
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I don't know why you are trying to "connect to my desktop wirelessly"... Does your desktop have a wireless network card ? If not, you have to use USB tethering to provide 'net access to the desktop from your phone's data connection.
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I don't know why you are trying to "connect to my desktop wirelessly"... Does your desktop have a wireless network card ? If not, you have to use USB tethering to provide 'net access to the desktop from your phone's data connection.
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Yup, brand new Asus Wireless-N USB Adapter.
I don't know about wireless, but I use wired tethering via PDAnet. its very stable and I don't have any problems with it except one. occassionally, after a few hours(or if I use 1GB+ of data), it will then get really slow. ill have to temporarily turn off the phone's radio & then back on and everything returns to normal.
I do however feel it is an issue with the Thunderbolt as I have done the same thing with a Bionic and the Bionic never has the issue.
I use Wifi Tether v3.1-beta6. All I had to do to get it to connect was go under settings and be sure routing fix is checked. Connects to my laptop instantly and I get full 4g speeds.
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You have to uncheck disable wake-lock so your tether stays active after your phone goes to sleep
If I helped you in any way please use the thank you button
Grnlantern79 said:
You have to uncheck disable wake-lock so your tether stays active after your phone goes to sleep
If I helped you in any way please use the thank you button
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And this is in what tethering app?
flooritnfly said:
I am wondering what the magic trick is to tethering??
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No "trick" needed. Pay Verizon for tethering, and use the app they provide. Works just fine, no hassles.
mike.s said:
No "trick" needed. Pay Verizon for tethering, and use the app they provide. Works just fine, no hassles.
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Ha! Not happening. They get plenty of my $, not to mention I'm pretty much George Costanza......
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Ha! Not happening. They get plenty of my $, not to mention I'm pretty much George Costanza......
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So, you're a reprobate, and would prefer to rip off not only Verizon, but also other users. FU.
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So, you're a reprobate, and would prefer to rip off not only Verizon, but also other users. FU.
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I'm a strategist that takes advantage of every opportunity I can.
Here this argument goes again...
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flooritnfly said:
And this is in what tethering app?
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Google WiFi tether I use the newest version.
If I helped you in any way please use the thank you button
mike.s said:
So, you're a reprobate, and would prefer to rip off not only Verizon, but also other users. FU.
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Totally uncalled for. Troll elsewhere Mike. According to Block C provisions Verizon is required to allow us unlimited LTE data AND access to all apps *Even ones that allow tethering* They're trying to dodge a bullet claiming "Network Management" as the reasoning behind data caps and tether blocking.
Now as per the OP- I use default USB tethering built into CM7 and have had decent connection speeds / pings on 3g and 4g and I can watch Netflix / play Rift / connect to Vent / whatever without random disconnects. I'd go ahead and assume your wifi card on the computer just isn't playing nice with the wifi tethering and try a USB option before ripping your hair out in frustration.
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According to Block C provisions Verizon is required to allow us unlimited LTE data AND access to all apps *Even ones that allow tethering*
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First, you're wrong. You've stated something as fact which has not been decided. If you believe your interpretaton of the Block C restrictions is correct, get the FCC to do something about it, or successfully sue Verizon. Until you do that, tethering without paying for the feature is a violation of the contract you agreed to when you signed up for service.
Also, the rules put in place say nothing about providing such service at no cost. Verizon does not prohibit tethering, they just charge you for it. They allow unlimited usage, they just charge for it. Where's the violation?
Now stop ripping off legitimate tethering users (by stealing bandwidth which should be available to them) and VZW. Your rationalization of theft simply shows that you are a reprobate.
So back on topic of the op, i had some issues with the 605.5 base roms, but not older 605.0 and 605.3 based. I checked for the tetherguard.apk and haven't see it in any of the roms i've been trying. If you're using a sense based and having issues, try an older base rom, worked for me.
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First, you're wrong. You've stated something as fact which has not been decided. If you believe your interpretaton of the Block C restrictions is correct, get the FCC to do something about it, or successfully sue Verizon. Until you do that, tethering without paying for the feature is a violation of the contract you agreed to when you signed up for service.
Also, the rules put in place say nothing about providing such service at no cost. Verizon does not prohibit tethering, they just charge you for it. They allow unlimited usage, they just charge for it. Where's the violation?
Now stop ripping off legitimate tethering users (by stealing bandwidth which should be available to them) and VZW. Your rationalization of theft simply shows that you are a reprobate.
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Do you really believe that the LTE base station at each cell tower is even remotely approaching traffic capacity?
Anyways, I prefer "WiFi Tether." Make sure you enable routing fix, and check "Disable Wake Lock"
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So back on topic of the op, i had some issues with the 605.5 base roms, but not older 605.0 and 605.3 based. I checked for the tetherguard.apk and haven't see it in any of the roms i've been trying. If you're using a sense based and having issues, try an older base rom, worked for me.
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What rom are you using and having success with? I'm currently on BAMF Forever 1.0.9 and at times its fine and other times my speed tests show 12-13mbps on my desktop I'm tethering too, yet many simple web pages won't load.
And what is Tetherguard?
I'm running a 605.5 based Rom and can tether no problem and full 4g speeds. I use wifi tether 3.1 beta6. Change device profile to thunderbolt and make sure routing fix is checked in settings.
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i'm running killasense 3.2 (thanks orkilla! great rom) and everything works very very well.
under setup-method, i manually selected soft-ap. most phones need an access point-style connection, iphones and ipads can do ad-hoc but not any other phones, and my laptop had problems with ad-hoc on occasion.
* radios should be 0906 or newer. mine are super stable... both 3g, 4g and wifi!
* wifi tether 3.0 beta 6
* device-progile -> thunderbolt
* setup-method -> softap
check the following
* wifi driver reload
* mms clamping
* routing fix
then... UNCHECK disable wake lock
bam, should be good. also, delete the wireless network from your computer. network sharing -> wireless networks -> find and remove. then reconnect, should be good to goooo
I bought my first smartphone ever last month to give you an idea how new I am. My last phone was a Touch that I had set up to allow tethering... but I had to upgrade my phone. I need my tethering back, and I prefer not going through a program like pda-net.
So, I read that if I root the phone, I'd have tethering back. I used Revolutionary. I backed up my phone. I installed clockwork and superuser. I think I did everything I'm supposed to do. However, when I plug the phone in (I prefer USB tethering) and click the "Internet Connection Mode", I still get the message I need to subscribe for $20 a month, and I don't get a connection. Do I need to do something else to enable wired tethering? Do I have to install a 3rd party program as well? Or is it that I haven't installed a custom ROM/Kernel/Radio/Whatever would be the right thing?
The phone is a Thunderbolt. HTC Sense 2.1, Software #2.11.605.5, Android version 2.3.4.
I really don't have much of an idea what I'm talking about, so if anyone has any fairly easy answers, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for any help.
Find my WiFi tether thread and follow instructions
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Do what lantern says. Just rooting does not unlock the built in internet sharing apps. You need to get the apps that do what you want now. I.e. wireless tether, you might like wired but wireless is very nice.
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Grnlantern79,
Well, I've tried following your instructions on the other thread. I downloaded the .apk you had listed.
That took me an hour to figure out how to install... didn't know I needed to install another program to install something from a memory card.
As for these instructions:
"Mine did not work until I changed the device profile to Thunderbolt in settings.
Then I changed a few other settings such as
Force WiFi driver reloading (check) *has worked for some*
Routing fix (check) *most important one*
Disable wake-lock (unchecked) -> *this is why you lose connection after your screen turns off*"
I can't for the life of me find where any of these are. I've spent a good amount of time trying to find them, and just can't seem to find a settings section.
Then I tried Autotethering and WiFi Tether from the Market. It doesn't matter which I use, when I hit "Internet Connection Mode" the Verizon $20 to use message pops up. I tried on two computers, and both will see something there, but not connect to the internet. I tried connecting without selecting that, but it still didn't work (had it on "charge only").
I'm very frustrated... I've spent hours working on this and don't feel like I'm making any progress. I appreciate you attempting to help via that other thread, but I'm lost. If you have any way of giving me a more detailed explanation of how to get this to work, I would greatly appreciate it.
If I just install some new ROM and not work off the rooted stock one I have, would they come with the tethering block from Verizon disabled?
Thanks for any advice.
Telaeus
When you open WiFi tether press menu the soft key at bottom of your phone, the settings will pop up.
Device profile = thunderbolt
Routing fix = check box
Enable access control
Now I can tell you are not tech savy so this is where my help stops. If you can't find the settings in a program after an hour, you should think about return your smart phone for a feature phone.
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Well, thanks for trying to help then Grnlantern79. I had misunderstood where to look for the settings. Figured it was settings on the phone itself I was changing to bypass the Verizon Internet Connection thing.
I changed all the settings in WiFi tether. Still no luck. The computer recognizes the network... I set it to Public. It's listed as HTC Remote NDIS Based Device. However, there is no Internet or Network access. I'm not putting it to "internet connection mode" since the Verizon popup has never gone away... leaving it on Charge only.
If anyone else is willing to try and assist me, I would appreciate it. I fully admit to not being smartphone savvy. However, I'm not incapable as Lantern implies... I've built my own computers since 1993, and can diagnose and do pretty much anything hardware related. Unfortunately, smartphones are different, and I'm still getting up to speed on all the terminology and uses of them.
So, thanks Lantern... but is anyone else able to figure out why this isn't working?
Thanks for any help.
Enable access control
Check
WiFi driver reload
Routing fix
Uncheck
Disable wake lock
Setup-method
Apple computer
Wext
Any other
softtap
Set computer profile to home network.
When u connect to ur phone it wireless not usb, ur phone will have a notification asking if its ok to connect, hit enable. Done.
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I'm going to start here with this question before expanding it to the whole xda-developers Q&A area, since this is something I am trying to do specifically with my Note.
Is there a way to force an app to use mobile data connection (MDC) instead of wifi?
Specifically, I am trying to figure out if I can force Activesync and/or the Gmail app to use the MDC instead of the wifi connection when I am already connected on wifi, especially if there is a way to have either of those apps detect that it can't communicate with the servers through wifi, and auto change to using the MDC.
Reason for this??? I need to receive emails through Activesync and Gmail at all times, due to being on-call for work. The wifi connection screws up sometimes, but the phone stays connected to the wifi thinking it can still access everything ok. (yes, it is a problem with the router, not the phone, and that is being investigated separately)
Yes...I know I could just turn off my wifi connection on the phone, but I prefer to leave it on if possible, and just use the MDC for those two apps. Is that even possible to use the MDC while still connected to wifi, or is there a requirement that wifi be turned off to use MDC, no matter what???
Also, what is the proper name for the MDC? That might help me search for a solution. MDC was the best I could come up with for it, but maybe there is an "official" name for this connection?
I have the Tasker app installed, and have been thinking about trying a way to make Tasker cycle the wifi connection for me, but as I said, I would prefer to just leave the wifi turned on, and just force those two apps out the MDC.
Any help, or maybe just point me to some more info? I have search for about a week now, and am finding plenty of people asking how to restrict an app to use wifi, but not the other way around.
Thanks!
MonkeyThumper
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Think of it this way...the wifi issue may be firewall related. So, the firewall stops my phone data from going to the internet through wifi. I need to still get my emails though. I would like to stay connected to my wifi, so that I could tell that I am having problem as soon as I try to surf the web, but my emails would still be coming through because they are using the mobile data connection instead.
I've never seen a mobile data connection stay active while wifi was turned on and connected.
Your best bet is to either fix whatever is wrong with your wifi connection, or bite the bullet and leave wifi off, until you can fix your wifi connection.
i agree, dont think its possible to use data connection,without turning off wifi first(impossible to have 2 data types simultaneously)
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i agree, dont think its possible to use data connection,without turning off wifi first(impossible to have 2 data types simultaneously)
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I dont think its impossible, as I believe txts come over data, not sure on this though. Is it possible to get what you want, yes most likely. Is it going to be easy, probably not. Address the real problem rather then applying an over complicated bandaid.
If your staying connected, but losing data at home then it is likely your modem is the culprit (assuming you use a modem connected to a wireless router, not a all in one device). If it belongs to the cable/phone company then contact them. If you bought your modem, find out what is compatable and buy a new one and see if this fixes it. I had the exact same problem with Time Warner the dumb asses tried telling me it was my wireless router problem despite still being about to be 100% up and running on internal (streaming music and movies from plex server while on phone and even able to RDP internally). Eventually they agreed to send a tech out and he laughed at them and gave me an upgraded modem and we were good to go.
Thanks for the support, but as I said, the wifi issue is being addresses separately. It may not be a quick & easy fix, because additional "testing" is being done on the network (firewall) that may be the real cause of the issue. It is being looked into though.
So...for everyone trying to get me to just "fix" the wifi first, sorry, but it isn't going to happen right now. I would just like to find a way to do what I requested in the original message.
Think of it this way...the wifi issue may be firewall related. So, the firewall stops my phone data from going to the internet through wifi. I need to still get my emails though. I would like to stay connected to my wifi, so that I could tell that I am having problem as soon as I try to surf the web, but my emails would still be coming through because they are using the mobile data connection instead.
Does that help clarify my need of this some?
I agree that it seems only one connection can be active at a time. On my windows mobile phone it defaulted to the data connection, android seems to default to wifi (i would bet this is a requirement from the carriers).
As for texts, they are delivered through spare bits on the cellular carrier channel that were left as spares very early on. Not via data channels. Which is why forcing us to pay to send texts is such robbery - we are literally using otherwise spare bandwidth.
How to bypass MDC?
I have a similar need as MonkeyThumper. My situation is that I have a camera application which allows me to view my camera's at home. It uses port 2000 of which our corporate firewall blocks. I have to turn off wi-fi so that I can use mobile in order to connect. Wondering if there is some routing protocol that I can tell my phone to use MDC instead of wi-fi specifically for that application. It's a nuissance to have to turn off wi-fi, check the camera's, then turn it back on regularly. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Apps = Not Likely. HOWEVER.... and I can't say for sure - mainly because I have no idea if the radios shut down based upon connection (example 3G turns off when on wifi) - but you can modify the routes in the route table and (again in theory) force data down one pathway or the other.
For example - using a terminal on the phone try this: Connect Wifi - then in the terminal type: ip route show
Output will be something like
default via 192.168.1.1 dev wlan0
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192.168.1.1 dev wlan0 scope link
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If you disconnect Wifi and repeat (ip route show) the output will look like this:
default via 10.77.xx.xx dev rmnet_sdio0
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10.77.xx.xx dev rmnet_sdio0 scope link
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So, you should be able to manipulate the route table with something like:
su
ip route add 88.77.66.55/32 via 10.77.xx dev rmnet_sdio0 (where 88.77.66.55 is your home IP address or the IP you want to get to).
The problem with this is... it's not persistent. So you'll be best off doing this from a script or something once you verify it works.
There might be another way too... I'm sure there's a route file somewhere that can be configured.
XDA is no longer worth my time.
Need GMAIL on Mobile Data, others on WiFi
hi, my case is simple:
At work, we have WiFi.
But, GMAIL is blocked.
So, i want all my other apps to use the office WiFi, but gmail to go over my mobile data.
I would imagine this scenario is getting more and more common.
Does anyone have any ideas here, apart from having to turn wifi off everytime i want to check my gmail?
any help much appreciated,
thanks James.
TimOster said:
XDA is no longer worth my time.
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Then go away.
2$HAYNE
TimOster said:
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okay, BYE
shayneflashindaily said:
Then go away.
2$HAYNE
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here here, I 2nd that.
that was an easy problem to solve
TimOster said:
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Since you randomly go around posting this same statement on many threads, let me see if I can give you a hand.
Give me just a bit.....I'll see if I can get a mod to help you find the xda door. No need to hit thanks Tim....more than happy to do it for you.
Sent from my Big Ass Outlaw Phone
TimOster said:
XDA is no longer worth my time.
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Then dont come back.
shayneflashindaily said:
Then go away.
2$HAYNE
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captemo said:
okay, BYE
here here, I 2nd that.
that was an easy problem to solve
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Lol you guys! He said that over a year ago!!
Bubbajoe40356 said:
Since you randomly go around posting this same statement on many threads, let me see if I can give you a hand.
Give me just a bit.....I'll see if I can get a mod to help you find the xda door. No need to hit thanks Tim....more than happy to do it for you.
Sent from my Big Ass Outlaw Phone
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serge_harle_z said:
Then dont come back.
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440bro said:
Lol you guys! He said that over a year ago!!
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yeah, I know.
but my phone runs soooo good, im bored
been trying to decide what to flash. even if there are issues, it will give me something to do.
I have rooted and am looking for a wifi tether option. Is there anything available for the G3 yet other then paying Verizon? Thank you in advance for your help
I'm looking for options and waiting to buy until there is one.
use this
I used to use Barnacle Wifi Tether back in the OG Droid days before roms had it built in:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.szym.barnacle&hl=en
It's what i'm using now and it still works well.
Doesn't seem there's anything yet. I can confirm Foxfi does NOT work on the verizon g3
jruasap said:
I used to use Barnacle Wifi Tether back in the OG Droid days before roms had it built in:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.szym.barnacle&hl=en
It's what i'm using now and it still works well.
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I can confirm that Barnacle does NOT work!
I am rooted and have tried almost every method to no avail. I'm hoping for a fix before my 30 day return window closes cause without hotspot or tether the G3 is useless for me.
Ditto..
Samckaz said:
I can confirm that Barnacle does NOT work!
I am rooted and have tried almost every method to no avail. I'm hoping for a fix before my 30 day return window closes cause without hotspot or tether the G3 is useless for me.
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I have tried just about all the methods I can think of and no dice... I'd pitch $20 towards a bounty for real wifi tethering. I think it's absurd that something that is basic functionality of the device, is blocked by the carrier so you can be forced to pay their fee. I'm already paying them $200+ a month, and they want me to pay more for something my phone already does?
Maliron said:
I have tried just about all the methods I can think of and no dice... I'd pitch $20 towards a bounty for real wifi tethering. I think it's absurd that something that is basic functionality of the device, is blocked by the carrier so you can be forced to pay their fee. I'm already paying them $200+ a month, and they want me to pay more for something my phone already does?
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I'd be willing to put into a bounty pot too
This worked for me
I was able to follow the directions at droidviews.com/how-to-enable-wifi-tethering-on-verizon-lg-g2-vs980/ using the 4.4.2 modified provision. I take no credit for it, but It does seem to work for the G3 as well.
*Edit - It only works after you change the name of the device. Once the hotspot feature is removed it will not reconnect. You'll have to go back into Set Up, and select "Back to Defaults" and save. This will free up the MHS again for that 1 time use. Anyone know of a way to make it permanent?
Wifi tether
sursee said:
I was able to follow the directions at droidviews.com/how-to-enable-wifi-tethering-on-verizon-lg-g2-vs980/ using the 4.4.2 modified provision. I take no credit for it, but It does seem to work for the G3 as well.
*Edit - It only works after you change the name of the device. Once the hotspot feature is removed it will not reconnect. You'll have to go back into Set Up, and select "Back to Defaults" and save. This will free up the MHS again for that 1 time use. Anyone know of a way to make it permanent?
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What i usually do is either change the channel or frequency. Its not permanent, but its better than going to default every time
patterswong said:
What i usually do is either change the channel or frequency. Its not permanent, but its better than going to default every time
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I just found that Wifi Tether Router from the Play store works great now! I found it on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/help/g3-hotspot-hack-t2812305/post54329287
I use the following settings from the dev, and it works great!
For LG G3 using this config
Interface wlan0
Method 3 - HostApd
Channel 1
Encryption wpa2-psk
Drivers nl80211
"HostApd Patch" <- UNCHECKED
One oddity with WiFi Tether, when you Disable, it doesn't automatically release the WiFi -- my tethered device (the tablet I'm writing this on) still shows a connection to my SSID.
My settings are the recommended ones for G3 (I didn't have to touch any of them, that's how it installed).
It does seem to release the port if you specifically turn WiFi back on on the phone, though I'm not certain -- I see multiple available wireless networks in my WiFi settings, a positive sign.
Net, I'm happy with it (had it running about 6 hours so far today), and hopefully the dev will issue an update to truly release the WiFi on the phone when you Disable.
markfm said:
One oddity with WiFi Tether, when you Disable, it doesn't automatically release the WiFi -- my tethered device (the tablet I'm writing this on) still shows a connection to my SSID.
My settings are the recommended ones for G3 (I didn't have to touch any of them, that's how it installed).
It does seem to release the port if you specifically turn WiFi back on on the phone, though I'm not certain -- I see multiple available wireless networks in my WiFi settings, a positive sign.
Net, I'm happy with it (had it running about 6 hours so far today), and hopefully the dev will issue an update to truly release the WiFi on the phone when you Disable.
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I have noticed the same thing, and if I enable and disable the wifi on my phone it does work. It seems the easiest solution so far. I know someone emailed the dev about the issue with it releasing the wifi. Hopefully it will be corrected soon. It's not that big of an inconvenience for me though. Far less than not having wifi at all, and better than using the hack for the stock hotspot which requires changing a setting and setting back before it will work.
Agree, I prefer it to the modded hotspot apk approach. Time to restore the original two hotspot files
Thank you...I just tried it and it is working
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The developer of WiFi Tether was very quick in responding to me, already generated an update that I just tested, fixing the bug. It now, correctly, stops sending the SSID when you select Disable.
I expect he will post the update officially reasonably soon.
Work great! Thanks!