Regain waterproof with flaps - Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, my usb flap opens itself no matter if my Phone is in my pocket or on a surface, just get loose itself.
The thing is: if i buy The flaps for replacement Will still The usb flap getting loose? And being waterproof aswell? Thanks

My question is, did you try cleaning dust under flap?
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mr.loverlover said:
My question is, did you try cleaning dust under flap?
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Yup, i tried that tough. but no sucess with it so far.
Do you think if i buy new flaps will still getting loose?

I found that properly cleaning it
Like even a single dust spec causes problems
after pushing down on the flap for a bit so it sits firmly in place
If not the flaps are easily replaceable and cheap

Envious_Data said:
I found that properly cleaning it
Like even a single dust spec causes problems
after pushing down on the flap for a bit so it sits firmly in place
If not the flaps are easily replaceable and cheap
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i have knowledge about dust in flaps may cause issues. i recently adopted some testing by my own, and its directed to push slighlty and gently the flpas every day, and time lapse i remember to do it. so, my usb flaps isnt opening istlef everytime i really matter the fact that my flaps would open a bit when submerged, that definetly would crack my head LOL.
if my test dont work ill buy brand new flaps, the thing is if it will be tight closed as stock ones when was right out of the box.

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USB/HDMI cover

Hi there, it's only me or the cover for USB and HDMI (but the second one is less important) sucks? opening it's ok with my nail but get back in closed position is hard -.-, and I have the fear to break the small plastic connection :S tips? I'm thinking about remove them...
I have got a technique to do it, but it's hard to explain. I push the top of the cover inside first, then the bottom.
Cholek3 said:
I have got a technique to do it, but it's hard to explain. I push the top of the cover inside first, then the bottom.
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Exactly, it slides in at an angle, then click in the bottom.
I agree it looks flimsy; I had the same fear with the usb port cover on my X10 though, and it lasted well over 2 years of daily charging.
I am used to it now, it's still pointless though. My Nexus One had no cover and the USB port is still working fine after well over 2 years. I don't know why some manufacturers think a cover is necessary.
3Shirts said:
I am used to it now, it's still pointless though. My Nexus One had no cover and the USB port is still working fine after well over 2 years. I don't know why some manufacturers think a cover is necessary.
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It's way prettier, obviously. I saw a picture on here with the cover removed, and it makes the design of the phone sink below sea level.
A flapless port only looks good on a phone with a metal or proper metal-color body. Like the Xperia P. But the Xperia S would look like crap without port flaps.
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It's way prettier, obviously. I saw a picture on here with the cover removed, and it makes the design of the phone sink below sea level.
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Yeah but that's because you are taking the flap off when it was designed with it on. Phones designed with a flush usb port and no flap look fine.
It's like saying cutting the roof off your SUV didn't look good. A convertible sports car looks ace.
I don't think the XS would look bad with no port flap. Look at the headphone socket, that's very nicely styled. If they'd done the same with USB I'd be happier.
My samsung tocco ultra had a similar style flap to the XS and lasted me 2 years just fine despite me thinking it would only last two days.
The galaxy s had a slide cover which mostly did the job but wasn't exactly pretty. The pins in micro usb are pretty fine wouldn't take much ingress to mess it up.
I think when the flap spare pieces are available online I will get one and make proper opening for USB for it and leave it there permanently.
Some smart manufacturer could make a delete with correct opening. They could have made it just like Xperia P and it would look very nice.
I was thinking about such same thing. Waiting for spare USB flap availability.
I wonder if a replacement flap could be worked into a clip on case?
Si
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Cholek3 said:
I have got a technique to do it, but it's hard to explain. I push the top of the cover inside first, then the bottom.
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Ace, works for me too. I'd been faffing something chronic til now with it but that's deffo the method.
Good to hear that other people have had previous, port-protected Sony's last a couple of years and more OK, especially with 2 year contracts almost being the norm these days. All told it's encouraging, therefore, to read that Sony seems to be some kinda master of the flaps.
Too much innuendo - fnar!
I find the flaps very sturdy so I don't mind if they are a bit of a learning experience. I pop the bottom part, then the top part and it works for me XD.
On my X10 it was easy to remove but it was pretty fragile, so I would rather have it the way it is now, then none at all .
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i think, it's hard to say whether it is better to have those flaps or not to have them (like in the xperia arc). of course, it also depends on how often you use them.
because of wifi, usb is mostly only needed for flashing, but at least you have to oben the usb-flap once a day for charging
but at the end the phone looks better with them...
The flaps don't bother me that much, but what does bother me is how loose they become after you have opened them a few times. It makes it feel like there is a loose spot in the casing.
I just wanted to chip in here and say if you're worried about the flap, you are right to be. I left mine charging overnight and when I came to unplug it I noticed that the flap had a crack in both sides somehow - despite me being super careful with it. It's not broken - some kind of membrane within seems to be holding it together somehow - but it bends along the crack now and it's a matter of time before it snaps completely.
I don't like that flap design one bit... I thought the X10 had a bad flap design but this one is far worse, especially when you have the phone in a case. It's vulnerable when being charged, sticking out worryingly... hopefully spares will become available. I tried to glue it to reinforce it but it's not easy as the crack is only a hairline when sitting properly.
I don't like them, on mine it has become loose and doesn't latch in at the bottom properly anymore. It has also list it's matte black and is quite shiny now, as is also the 'chin' bit at the bottom under clear strip, there's a definite bit of wear under the back and home buttons. :-/ 3 months old :|
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Ungruntled said:
I just wanted to chip in here and say if you're worried about the flap, you are right to be. I left mine charging overnight and when I came to unplug it I noticed that the flap had a crack in both sides somehow - despite me being super careful with it. It's not broken - some kind of membrane within seems to be holding it together somehow - but it bends along the crack now and it's a matter of time before it snaps completely.
I don't like that flap design one bit... I thought the X10 had a bad flap design but this one is far worse, especially when you have the phone in a case. It's vulnerable when being charged, sticking out worryingly... hopefully spares will become available. I tried to glue it to reinforce it but it's not easy as the crack is only a hairline when sitting properly.
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Well my cover finally cracked the other day, the little tail that stays in the phone always cracked in half. So half is still stuck in the phone and then I have the whole cover left. It won't stay on anymore so must look for a new one.
Any one seen the USB cover for sale anywhere ?
Mine has broken too, found this on ebay:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-HDMI-Cover-Button-Cap-Replacement-For-Sony-Ericsson-Xperia-S-LT26i-Black-/290718395563?pt=UK_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item43b02aacab#ht_1834wt_1037

Back panel loose/lifting and flaps loose

Anyone else having physical problems with their Z2?
As of a few weeks ago, I've started noticing that the top right corner of the back panel of my Z2 popping up slightly (like 2mm to 3mm) several times a day and I would have to press it back down. The cover on the USB/SIM area will also mysteriously be open sometimes when I fish the phone out of my pocket even though it does still feel quite firmly closed once I put the cover back in place.
I went down to my local Sony service centre and they said that they will rectify the issues for me and might replace the "loose" flap too (also told me to avoid water since it's not waterproof with the back like that) - but it would take 7 working days and that I should call their helpline to check if there was any issue for me sending my set in as it has an unlocked BL.
Seems like the original Z had the same problem with the back cover - http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/08/0...ose-back-panels-water-resistance-compromised/ and the loose flaps issue isn't new either (but the rubber seals on mine look perfect).
Flash a stock kernel and relock your bootloader, few people actualy check these days for DRM keys however they do check rarely for your bootloader status
And your physical problems are totaly abnormal so try very hard to get a replacement
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for the flap problem, easy easy fix. Get some silicone grease at your hardware store or wherever. Take a lil and moisturise the flaps' rubber, works like a charm. Seems like the seal just dries out.
hotnikkelz said:
for the flap problem, easy easy fix. Get some silicone grease at your hardware store or wherever. Take a lil and moisturise the flaps' rubber, works like a charm. Seems like the seal just dries out.
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I just tried it and it seems to make the flap come loose more easily. Looking at the flap, it seems to pop open because of insufficient friction between the seals and the socket for the flap...
benengyj said:
I just tried it and it seems to make the flap come loose more easily. Looking at the flap, it seems to pop open because of insufficient friction between the seals and the socket for the flap...
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You didn't cake it on I hope. You're putting a really small amount. Like really small. It worked for me. Sowwy
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OMG what a ****ty phone. I will never buy Sony again. I have only problems with this crap.
hotnikkelz said:
You didn't cake it on I hope. You're putting a really small amount. Like really small. It worked for me. Sowwy
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Is this same as CPU's thermal paste?
hotnikkelz said:
You didn't cake it on I hope. You're putting a really small amount. Like really small. It worked for me. Sowwy
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I just applied this - http://www.wd40specialist.com/products/silicone-lubricant/) - thinly using a q-tip. No worries. Wasn't too expensive and it could be closed again once I cleaned it off. Tried a slightest touch of hair gel (I was desperate...LOL) and that didn't work too well either.
I guess I'll just try to relock the BL and feign ignorance and send it in for "hardware faults" even though the bored sounding helpdesk lady on the phone said that the warranty is voided.
misiakr said:
OMG what a ****ty phone. I will never buy Sony again. I have only problems with this crap.
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Genuinely quite disappointed with the niggling faults that the phone has. Random freezes and self-reboots and WIFI issues on my Z2 and my dad's Z1 is making me lose confidence in Sony to deliver a solid all-round device. It's a really beautiful phone with a wonderful camera but compared to build quality and software stability my previous HTC M7 (converted to a GPE ROM) which was essentially bulletproof and could have months and months of uptime without a reboot...ugh.
benengyj said:
Anyone else having physical problems with their Z2?
The cover on the USB/SIM area will also mysteriously be open sometimes when I fish the phone out of my pocket even though it does still feel quite firmly closed once I put the cover back in place.
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I also have the loose USB flap problem. I've ordered a new one, I hope this will fix the problem.
It seems like sonys new factory has screwed the Z2 lol
My first Z2 brand new the back plate was lose enough for it to fall out and it did a few times also has all the probs mentioned in the op post
This new one is fine ,no reboots, no blackouts,no lags, no crashss bugs no probs
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Envious_Data said:
It seems like sonys new factory has screwed the Z2 lol
My first Z2 brand new the back plate was lose enough for it to fall out and it did a few times also has all the probs mentioned in the op post
This new one is fine ,no reboots, no blackouts,no lags, no crashss bugs no probs
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I think that only the loose USB flap is a very recurrent problem.
nreuge said:
I think that only the loose USB flap is a very recurrent problem.
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It seems like it too because my USB flap isnt neccisarily lose, it seems to sit deeper in the frame, it isnt flush with the rest of the frame or like my SDCard Slot
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For me, the flaps are good, and the back panel on the edges doesn't seem to pop up or to be misaligned with the edge, but on a light press on a few places it feels like the back panel is loose, and you can hear a small "tactile" feedback when pressed.
Should i get it checked or is it just a little hollow on these few places? For me that's the spot a little to the left and bottom of the SONY logo on the back, in height of the volume rocker.
tomaach said:
For me, the flaps are good, and the back panel on the edges doesn't seem to pop up or to be misaligned with the edge, but on a light press on a few places it feels like the back panel is loose, and you can hear a small "tactile" feedback when pressed.
Should i get it checked or is it just a little hollow on these few places? For me that's the spot a little to the left and bottom of the SONY logo on the back, in height of the volume rocker.
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me too... but imho it isn't a problem...
I kinda semi-fixed the loose flaps by cleaning off the accumulated dust around the edges of the seal and the covered area...doesn't seem to fall out as often now.
Envious_Data said:
It seems like it too because my USB flap isnt neccisarily lose, it seems to sit deeper in the frame, it isnt flush with the rest of the frame or like my SDCard Slot
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I've received my new USB flap and the issue is fixed, the new flap is not loose. It was not due to the phone body as I feared but a premature wear of the flap...
Anyway, I don't recommend to open the flap but in exceptional circumstances. Transferring files wireless and charging phone with magnetic port should be the rule and recommended by Sony.
benengyj said:
I kinda semi-fixed the loose flaps by cleaning off the accumulated dust around the edges of the seal and the covered area...doesn't seem to fall out as often now.
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Can you explain why you have not returned your mobile under warranty for repair or replacement?
Ryland
nreuge said:
I've received my new USB flap and the issue is fixed, the new flap is not loose. It was not due to the phone body as I feared but a premature wear of the flap...
Anyway, I don't recommend to open the flap but in exceptional circumstances. Transferring files wireless and charging phone with magnetic port should be the rule and recommended by Sony.
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My flap has been back to normal since cleaning out the dust from around the silicone seal.
Ryland Johnson said:
Can you explain why you have not returned your mobile under warranty for repair or replacement?
Ryland
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To be honest, it's just the hassle of having to wait a week (and having to go back to my HTC M7) or so for them to get it fixed. Plus my set might not be accepted by them as the BL is unlocked (towelroot came too late for me unfortunately )
I do intend to send it in for repairs (also dinged the flap a little, might as well get that swapped out too) some time soon as the loose back is really REALLY bugging me.
My god I have the same problem. Everytime I pull it out of my pocket the flap is out. Damn this phone was perfect . I cleaned soo ****ing well and the USB flap stays in more time but its still poping out.

[Q] Xperia Go front microphone seal

Hello,
I bought a second hand XGo in not so good condition (screen had already been replaced). It's missing the USB and Earphone flaps and the back cover is kinda broken. I'm thinking about buying some replacement parts (http://goo.gl/SiaT3w) but I've also noticed the front microphone doesn't seem to have any kind of seal to make it waterproof.
Does anybody know if the front microphone needs some kind of seal or if any other parts need seals? Or do you think the flaps is all that is needed to make XGo waterproof?
Thanks.
every opening of the phone is either sealed or covered with flaps to make it IP67 certified water resistant.
you can buy back cover and flaps to re-assure the water/dust resistance of USB port and audio jack.(if replaced properly).
the front and back speakers/microphones, camera, led all are protected. but there is no safe way to know that for a good old second hand set.
if there is some hardware damage, there are chances that the protective coating of these openings might get loose and eventually fail in pressure.
i recommend you to replaces flaps for dust resistance, and some splash resistance, so you can wash your phone. But NEVER EVER go in pool with the set. it is not safe at all to swim with the phone.
feel free to use the covered phone in rainy storms, i use it too ! :highfive: (sometimes i even put some water on it to cool it down after hours of gaming ! )
pataxda said:
Hello,
I bought a second hand XGo in not so good condition (screen had already been replaced). It's missing the USB and Earphone flaps and the back cover is kinda broken. I'm thinking about buying some replacement parts (http://goo.gl/SiaT3w) but I've also noticed the front microphone doesn't seem to have any kind of seal to make it waterproof.
Does anybody know if the front microphone needs some kind of seal or if any other parts need seals? Or do you think the flaps is all that is needed to make XGo waterproof?
Thanks.
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and press it if i was of any genuine help.:angel:
Hi,
I bought the replacement parts and they finally arrived. I noticed on another website something that seems to go between the microphone and the front cover (http://goo.gl/78x4WN). Could anyone confirm this is the seal for the main microphone? Sadly I couldn't find anything like that on eBay.
Thanks.

Flaps getting loose?

Hello, I've been reading issues about microSD/USB flaps becoming loose and opening on their own.
My questions are :
-Does it happen over time, or is it because of the product being factory defected?
Most of the people have noticed this issue a few weeks after buying the phone and that makes me think of the latter.
-Has any of you noticed it becoming loose over time?
-If it does get loose over time however, what precautions can be taken to slow down flap wear? I don't want to lose my phone's 'waterproof' capabilities because of a flap getting loose.
Same here.. My Xperia Z has its flaps loose just because they were used too much now i cant Use the waterproof way because if i wud then the phone would be damaged
DudejaVishwas said:
Same here.. My Xperia Z has its flaps loose just because they were used too much now i cant Use the waterproof way because if i wud then the phone would be damaged
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How long have you had your phone?
I'm not sure what you mean by getting loose but my usb port is sometimes opening itself. This doesn't happens all the time and for example right now they stay well closed. I noticed it happened a lot when I went asking so my guess is that it was due to the cold temperature.
My phone is about 4 months old.
I put my phone several time in water since I have this problem but never had any water damage issue.
I've found my Z2 has only this issue if under the flap is dirty
As precautions you can use the magnetic dock or the magnetic charger (3rd Party). Then the only time you will have to open a flap is to transfer data, this should greatly reduce the wear and tear.
Thanks all and yes I was talking about flaps opening on their own.Guess I'll be getting a magnetic charging dock
Whether it wears down quickly or slowly, dirt still fills in when I charge it over the night, better safe than sorry!
It's not just from wear and tear, my SD-Card slot partly opens daily and I have only ever opened it properly twice in the last 12 months.
on my xperia Z2 none of this issues happens to me...i had xperiaZ and yes it had very bad flaps,microsd flap got teard out but with Z2 series that i own now i cant say that, cuz flaps are amayzing. im using phone for 4-5 months already and flaps are still like brand new, no issues yet. :fingers-crossed:
Tachikoma_kun said:
It's not just from wear and tear, my SD-Card slot partly opens daily and I have only ever opened it properly twice in the last 12 months.
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You should buy a replacement (purchase link in video description) and follow the guide that's below in the video.Flaps are fairly cheap and as seen in the video very easy to replace without voiding guarantee.My only worry was having them open up on their own in an unexpected and unpleasant condition such as dropping it to water.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzXmsgNP2Eg
Thanks, will take a look!
Not too worried about it as just bought a metal bumper that doesn't have flap access, so that should keep them tightly closed for now.

Xperia Z2 Flaps

My xperia z2 flaps keep opening by themselves when I take the device out of my pocket does anyone else have the same issue or is it just me I can't understand why they become loose or open themselves I barely open the micro SD one so it couldn't have worn already is it just my z2?
Clean the port and flap
And press against the rubber on the flap
It should sort your issue
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My xperia z2 flaps keep opening by themselves when I take the device out of my pocket does anyone else have the same issue or is it just me I can't understand why they become loose or open themselves I barely open the micro SD one so it couldn't have worn already is it just my z2?
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Envious_Data said:
Clean the port and flap
And press against the rubber on the flap
It should sort your issue
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This does indeed fix the issue, I've had to do it myself many times. I think it's cause of dust/dirt getting trapped. Cotton buds/Q-tips do the trick brilliantly. I actually need to sort my flaps out as it has been happening for me recently.
gamer649 said:
This does indeed fix the issue, I've had to do it myself many times. I think it's cause of dust/dirt getting trapped. Cotton buds/Q-tips do the trick brilliantly. I actually need to sort my flaps out as it has been happening for me recently.
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I'll try that then thanks

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