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Hi -
I regretfully managed to drop my X10 in a toilet last night.... It's been a good 9 hours since at least and although initiallly it turned on when I started to charge it now it wont.
Now the red light if flashing when it is connected to the charger, and the screen is evidently a bit moist around the edges... EDIT: the phone just turned on so part of the issue was the battery being dead, but the screen slowly got darker and darker before switching off...
Is there any test for the phone company to see if it's water damaged?
Also, if I were to call them up and say there was an issue, I know they'd replace it with a straight exchange, so they wouldn't check it first.... Is it safe to do that?
Thanks
FIRST THINGS FIRST :
TURN OFF THE PHONE. NOW. Don't hang around, pull the battery out and DO NOT PUT IT IN.
Circuits are fine when in water, it's the corrosion and also when they have an electrical current put through them that the problem arises (when wet).
This WILL be tested when sent back if you call up and claim fault. The quickest way to visually test water damage is simple. Take off the back of your Xperia and at the top, exactly center (right above the camera) you'll see either a red and white chequered square OR a full red square (possibly part red/white but blotchy).
This SHOULD be chequered red and white but with water damage it makes it all red. Simple. No chance you can claim non damage now.
SECOND.
Put the phone in a bowl of rice(uncooked white rice). Now put the bowl of rice in a warm room or cupboard (preferably where your boiler is for your house?) or on top of a heater.
Leave it overnight and if it's on a heater DO NOT TURN THE HEATER OFF. Don't put the battery in the bowl, keep the battery separate and cooler but also make sure to avoid any water areas with it.
You could be lucky (I'll assume you will be but only time will tell) and this could fix it. It's worked on all my previous phones that I've water damaged (funnily enough I've only ever water damaged SEs) and also a few other circuit board based things I've used (one of them being a laptop!).
Please turn your phone off the SECOND you have read this post. Quickest way, battery pull.
Follow all the above steps and you should have a working xperia again.
Last note : if you dont have a heater to place a bowl of rice & xperia on top of, sit your phone in an empty room, turn a hair drier on and lay it next to it on medium heat setting on the lowest speed blowing against the phone. Should work too but make sure u can shut the door (annoying noise..)
yetep said:
FIRST THINGS FIRST :
TURN OFF THE PHONE. NOW. Don't hang around, pull the battery out and DO NOT PUT IT IN.
Circuits are fine when in water, it's the corrosion and also when they have an electrical current put through them that the problem arises (when wet).
This WILL be tested when sent back if you call up and claim fault. The quickest way to visually test water damage is simple. Take off the back of your Xperia and at the top, exactly center (right above the camera) you'll see either a red and white chequered square OR a full red square (possibly part red/white but blotchy).
This SHOULD be chequered red and white but with water damage it makes it all red. Simple. No chance you can claim non damage now.
SECOND.
Put the phone in a bowl of rice(uncooked white rice). Now put the bowl of rice in a warm room or cupboard (preferably where your boiler is for your house?) or on top of a heater.
Leave it overnight and if it's on a heater DO NOT TURN THE HEATER OFF. Don't put the battery in the bowl, keep the battery separate and cooler but also make sure to avoid any water areas with it.
You could be lucky (I'll assume you will be but only time will tell) and this could fix it. It's worked on all my previous phones that I've water damaged (funnily enough I've only ever water damaged SEs) and also a few other circuit board based things I've used (one of them being a laptop!).
Please turn your phone off the SECOND you have read this post. Quickest way, battery pull.
Follow all the above steps and you should have a working xperia again.
Last note : if you dont have a heater to place a bowl of rice & xperia on top of, sit your phone in an empty room, turn a hair drier on and lay it next to it on medium heat setting on the lowest speed blowing against the phone. Should work too but make sure u can shut the door (annoying noise..)
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thank you so much for your advice. I'll give it a go. I don't have any white rice, just brown, will that make a difference?
Of course I'll go and buy white rice if I need it!
The square at the phone is blotchy.... but mostly red. you can still see slight shades of white though.. is this possible without water damage?
Also from what you've said, I really shouldn't have put the phone to charge. I think I left it charging for ast least 6 hours so now I feel like I've ruined it by doing that..
Thanks again )
Just another update. after almost 5 hours in the rice I inserted the battery and connected it to the charger. There was an improvement from before in that the phone turned on and stayed on, ALTHOUGH th screen was flickering, and it really wasn't responding very well - I couldn't actually unlock the device.
There's a visible different in the water movement though, in that there seemed to be some spread around the whole screen initially, and now it's in a small part of the bottom of the screen.
Any tips?
Also, could someone clarify whether Vodafone would class it as water damaged?
Tuffy11 said:
Just another update. after almost 5 hours in the rice I inserted the battery and connected it to the charger. There was an improvement from before in that the phone turned on and stayed on, ALTHOUGH th screen was flickering, and it really wasn't responding very well - I couldn't actually unlock the device.
There's a visible different in the water movement though, in that there seemed to be some spread around the whole screen initially, and now it's in a small part of the bottom of the screen.
Any tips?
Also, could someone clarify whether Vodafone would class it as water damaged?
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well you dropped it in water and now its damaged, that seems like text book water damage to me =/
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Waiting 7 hours is not long enough...
Rice can only absorb moisture at a certain rate.
You should have wait much longer..
No offense, but your phone is toast. Rule number one is to NEVER turn on a water damaged device for at least a day after the incident. The phone was probably fine until you plugged it in.
You'll have to be on the hook for a new one. Your phone was water damaged and will not be covered under warranty.
Also, your grammar needs improvement. I found it really difficult to follow what you were writing because it made little sense.
Stop playing with it and leave it in the rice another day.
Then pray
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They'll be able to tell
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1. Diasassemble the Phone and put the PCB for 24hrs in 99% Isopropyle Alcohol. Not 50%, not 70% --> 99%.
2. Then take it out and let it dry for 48hrs.
3. Now reflash it (the SW is/may be corrupted).
I reanimated 80% of 200 Water-, Beer-, Pool-, Toilet-, and so on damaged Phones I repaired in the past...
Hey tuffy, sorry for the absence was at work till 10 last night then went straight to sleep lol.
I was going to give you similar advice to McKebapp however I thought the easiest option would be to give you common-to-find objects and make it easier as actually locating 99% Isopropyle is next to impossible unless you know exactly what it is!
Anyways, brown is fine - rice is rice it still takes in water. Only issue is it takes boiled water in at a rate almost 150 times faster than luke-warm or cold (which is what the water inside your phone will be).
If at all possible, do what McKebbap said but maybe avoid putting the PCB in alcohol, stick to the rice as it's bone dry and although, theoretically, so is the alcohol it'll be easier than trying to clean it all off afterwards.
If you can't dismantle it down (basically we need as much air-space between the PCB and well.. the air/rice!) then just put it back in fresh rice and leave it with the back off and battery out for another 24 hours or so, again in a warm area (needs to be warm for the water to rise).
Please, DO NOT TRY TO TURN IT ON WITHIN THIS TIME. Personally i'd actually be quite inclined to leave it for about 3 days but changing the rice (or mixing it) each day.
Good luck mate.
Oh and to answer your question : it's not possible for it to become blotchy or anything other than just squares of red/white without water buddy. it's designed for phone companies to , at a quick glance, check water damage cause guess what, besides dropping the phone, is the most common return reason ;-)
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I was going to give you similar advice to McKebapp however I thought the easiest option would be to give you common-to-find objects and make it easier as actually locating 99% Isopropyle is next to impossible unless you know exactly what it is!
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Each Pharmacy should have it for sale.
They maybe ask for what you'll use it.
Simply tell them the truth (cleaning electronics) or say, you'll need it to clean guitar strings from colophony.
Then everything should be fine.
So what happened? How's the phone?
How about the beer test in the good ol' days of the R310s
D3sRtH4mmR said:
So what happened? How's the phone?
How about the beer test in the good ol' days of the R310s
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Even if it is Off Topic...
YMMD
I've still got one orange R310s I still regualry make use of.
You simply can't destroy it.
I once even went snorkeling with it.
*remembering-the-good-'ol,-Sony-free,-pure-Ericsson-times*
McKebapp said:
Even if it is Off Topic...
YMMD
I've still got one orange R310s I still regualry make use of.
You simply can't destroy it.
I once even went snorkeling with it.
*remembering-the-good-'ol,-Sony-free,-pure-Ericsson-times*
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Indeed, the awesome days of Ericsson phones! My R380s still works!
Back on topic, I hope Tuffy11 managed to salvage the X10.
U can get isopropyl from any pharmacy. You should follow mckebapps guide. Check his posts out, he knows whats up. ;-)
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D3sRtH4mmR said:
Indeed, the awesome days of Ericsson phones! My R380s still works!
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Mine r520m works fine except bluetooth. In 2006 Ericsson didn't support this model anymore, so I switched to k790a that works fine for now. Even now with 3.2 Mp camera it does better job in dark sets, than X10. When I read specs I was surprised that they didn't use xenon flash. It is a kind of a bad joke for flagship model.
Returning to water damage - it is enough just to leave a phone for a week in regular room environment. Of course, I mean average environment, not like in rain season somewhere in rainforest. Alcohol (any kind - regular ethanol or isopropyl) absorbs water, but dries faster, than water, so this bath just significantly reduces water concentration. By the way, don't try to find 99% of consumer ethanol - it doesn't exist. 96% is the best (190 proof in the US or 175 degrees proof in UK). For isopropyl regular distillation gives 87.9% max. Azeotropic distillation produces higher percentage for both these spirits, but I doubt you can find it in regular stores. Closed areas, where water was suck in remain problematic. Moreover, when water finally dries out, it leaves mineral salts. It is not a big deal at circuit plates since those salts are electric safe (except sea water salts), but in clear areas like between screen layers they will be visible.
And again - if you want to kill any electronics most effective way, turn it on when it is wet. If you want to save it - be patient.
Hopefully this will help some poor schmucks that manage to do the #3 in the toilet (common enough so I call it #3).
If there is ****, just let go man, really.
If there is piss, likely more damage has been done so chances of recovery are slimmer (salty water is more conductive).
If clean water then likely the phone will work but some hardware might not survive (like the camera, ....)
In any case, remove the battery IMMEDIATELY!
Wipe battery dry. Leave alone and forget about it for 3-4 days.
Shake out as much water as possible out of the phone and let it dry for a week. You can safely use a hair dryer to warm it up to speed the evaporation. Do it twice a day.
If you want, dunk the phone in 99% rubbing alcohol for 10-20 seconds, swish it around. Take it out and forget you had a phone for 3-4 of days.
I never dropped one into the loo but I did go swimming with two phones and both survived (mostly).
well my phone got wet on the back with a case, then i took off the case it and the back which was all wet, the battery was wet to and so was under it, i took out the battery and dried every thing and it worked, everything did, the speakers and buttons. so later today the phone just shut off and wouldnt turn on. so i thought it died and i tried charging and just the light would flicker on the top left of the phone. so i put it in rice for about 5 hours and i put battery back on and now when i press the the power button. the screen just turns on like u can see light, just a black screen. then it goes away.
the battery has some green stuff on one of the gold things that conencts your batteries.
So i oredered another battery off of ebay, do you think that would fix it?
Thank you so much for reading this, just post your opinion on what happend.
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well my phone got wet on the back with a case, then i took off the case it and the back which was all wet, the battery was wet to and so was under it, i took out the battery and dried every thing and it worked, everything did, the speakers and buttons. so later today the phone just shut off and wouldnt turn on. so i thought it died and i tried charging and just the light would flicker on the top left of the phone. so i put it in rice for about 5 hours and i put battery back on and now when i press the the power button. the screen just turns on like u can see light, just a black screen. then it goes away.
the battery has some green stuff on one of the gold things that conencts your batteries.
So i oredered another battery off of ebay, do you think that would fix it?
Thank you so much for reading this, just post your opinion on what happend.
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Hope it works dude, water damage is pretty random depending on how wet it got. For the future, it would have been better to have taken out the battery and put it in rice immediately...
yap
a friend of mine forgot his phone in the pocket and it got washed by a washing mashiene
he brought it to a phone store and they put the phone into a blue liquide and after that iot worked properly
the green things on the contact came because u put it under voltage due it was wet the water got split into its parts (electrolysis)
i had the same problem with an mp3 player years ago lights went on but nothing else i think u broke ure phone but just leave it for a week or so and try again with the new battery
i hope for it will work
So actually, most phones phone should operate fine on net power and without a battery. Have you tried this? If it behaves the same as you described, I would not spend a dime on it ;-)
Bad luck btw ;-/
Hey guys i know this might not be very useful but hahahahah yesterday night me and some friends of mine were drinking outside near the main river in frankfurt hahahah and drunken girl got 8€ for jumping into the river xD
she did it ( i couldnt believe this xDDDDD i´d never done this )
Afterwards she recognized her galaxy ace in her pocket....
well it got wet
later on in her flat she repowered the phone and everthing worked fine expect the micro usb slot on her device xD
Well jfi xD
Try removing the battery and battery cover and completely submerging in 99% isopropyl alcohol (You can get it at most grocery stores, pharmacies, etc.) for a few hours. At this point the phone should work as normal again, but to be on the safe side take a box of rice and submerge your phone in the rice. Leave it their for a day or two and you should be good to go. Hope this helps.
i might try it myself as my phone has water damage on it as well
9 times out of 10 in my line of work, usually when the screen backlight turns on but doesnt display anything means its done for. I have seen customers with phones that got soaked and they lasted a couple of days but then stopped working... My best guess is that the water was still inside the phone and shorted out one of the small circuits inside. Good luck though i hope you can get it working.
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9 times out of 10 in my line of work, usually when the screen backlight turns on but doesnt display anything means its done for. I have seen customers with phones that got soaked and they lasted a couple of days but then stopped working... My best guess is that the water was still inside the phone and shorted out one of the small circuits inside. Good luck though i hope you can get it working.
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Well if ur right he could throw his phone away cus if u the circuits where shorted the possibility his phone got damaged in a unrepairable way is very high
I was riding my motorcycle, and got caught in a downpour. I moved my phone into my motorcycle jacket pocket. I thought my jacket was waterproof...it isn't. :crying: It didn't get really soaked, but it did shut off. I started it back up, and everything works but the touchscreen. So, I have it apart and in a ziplock bag full of rice. My question is, the ziplock bag should be unsealed and open right? I would think you want it open to help the water evaporate, but wasn't sure. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
I would imagine the damage done to your touch screen is done. Trying to get all the moisture out with the rice won't undo it. If that is all that is wrong u might be able to just replace that part. When u say apart u just mean battery and battery cover off?
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androidphan88 said:
I would imagine the damage done to your touch screen is done. Trying to get all the moisture out with the rice won't undo it. If that is all that is wrong u might be able to just replace that part. When u say apart u just mean battery and battery cover off?
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Yeah, i just have the battery out, the back cover off, and it's in rice. Man, I really hope it makes it through.
Also, the screen comes on, but just not responsive to any touches. Also, I noticed the headphones icon was on, though nothing was plugged in. Everything else seemed to work (ie wifi, hard buttons, power button)
Rice might help (doesn't matter if the bag is opened or not). However, like the above poster said, the damage has already been done. When you try to turn a phone on that still has moisture in it, that's when boards/components get fried. The BEST thing to do when a phone gets wet is to immediately take the battery out and FULLY dry it, a few days at least. This won't help you now, but hopefully it will in the future.
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Rice might help (doesn't matter if the bag is opened or not). However, like the above poster said, the damage has already been done. When you try to turn a phone on that still has moisture in it, that's when boards/components get fried. The BEST thing to do when a phone gets wet is to immediately take the battery out and FULLY dry it, a few days at least. This won't help you now, but hopefully it will in the future.
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Well, I'm pleased to report, everything works perfectly. Yeah, I know with the first contact with water, it's always best to pull the battery, but I didn't really have an option while riding my motorcycle. Anyway, touch screen is working perfectly and accurately. Whew! Dodged a bullet. I think I'm going to start carrying a ziplock bag in my motorcycle jacket pocket just in case this happens again.
Hey, so I got an LG Optimus G off of Ebay the other day and I love it. It only lasted a few days, though. Went to the beach and set it down on the sand to pose for a picture and a wave ran up over it. I had a case on and it didn't seem like too much water got into it. I immediately shut it off.
I know I should have waited longer, but since it didn't look like too much water had gotten into it I tried to turn it on the next morning. I also plugged a charger into it, which I now realize could have been its downfall.
Anyways, it's been a couple days since then and I dunked it in rubbing alcohol to try to remove residue and then took it apart and let it sit under a fan for over 12 hours. I tried turning it on several times and nothing happened. So, after taking it apart more and blowing out the insides with one of those cans of air for removing dust, I put it back together. This time, when I pushed the power button the back button led came on. It goes off after a little while and I can't get it to do anything else. Also, the water damage indicator is still white.
So, I realize it is probably beyond saving, but the back button led coming on gave me hope that there might still be something to do. Any suggestions on anything else to try and any ideas on why the back button led is coming on?
Thanks!
Okay, here's another question. Would I be able to buy another phone off of Ebay that has a broken screen or something for cheap and transfer over the internal parts to my phone? Or is my screen probably messed up too?
salt can do more damage than you think , usually the screen would remain good if it was normal water , but dicey to say since it was salt water, if you can get it evaluated cheap it would make sense , not otherwise , its already an old phone going cheap, would make more sense to get another.
Any time your phone drops in water, the first thing you should never do is try to turn it on because it could damage the internals and cause a short circuit in which the electrical components may fry.
First dry your phone as much possible and put it in a bowl or bag of rice. Wait at least a few days and then try to turn it on. If it works, great! If not then it is possibly damaged but to the point not every component is damaged. It might just be the screen or the motherboard. The best bet would then be to ask a repair person to see what is broken and if it can be repaired or salvaged for some parts.
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Hello, I have problem here. My friend's phone got wet when she plays in the river (how stupid), and she come to my house. Her phone is Samsung Galaxy Young GT-S6310. She wants to repair her phone to me because the touch screen of her phone is not responding anymore and I accept it but, I told her if her warranty is no longer available, and she said it's no longer. I started to disassemble it, and removing the body and I see the residue of water. I began clearing it and test it (without the body) and nothing happen. I check inside of the covering plate (the stainless plate when you remove the battery) and I see some residue but not water anymore, it heated up and cleaning it again, but still nothing. I tried my best repairing her phone but no success. I told her to come back anytime so she go home and so, I start to research someting. But I didn't search that night, I have a very, VERY, slow connection. So today still nothing so that's why I post here for question.
If someone have an idea, please post here.
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Hello, I have problem here. My friend's phone got wet when she plays in the river (how stupid), and she come to my house. Her phone is Samsung Galaxy Young GT-S6310. She wants to repair her phone to me because the touch screen of her phone is not responding anymore and I accept it but, I told her if her warranty is no longer available, and she said it's no longer. I started to disassemble it, and removing the body and I see the residue of water. I began clearing it and test it (without the body) and nothing happen. I check inside of the covering plate (the stainless plate when you remove the battery) and I see some residue but not water anymore, it heated up and cleaning it again, but still nothing. I tried my best repairing her phone but no success. I told her to come back anytime so she go home and so, I start to research someting. But I didn't search that night, I have a very, VERY, slow connection. So today still nothing so that's why I post here for question.
If someone have an idea, please post here.
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you messed up trying to power it on or use it when there is water inside. best thing you could do is blow dry it to dry anything else and leave it in rice to absorb any drops od rice
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you messed up trying to power it on or use it when there is water inside. best thing you could do is blow dry it to dry anything else and leave it in rice to absorb any drops od rice
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I tried to rice it up for a whole day, didn't work, I do this 3 times to check inside. Should I buy a new digitizer? It's not available in my current country.
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I tried to rice it up for a whole day, didn't work, I do this 3 times to check inside. Should I buy a new digitizer? It's not available in my current country.
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yeah just buy a new one. i imagine if its not working now, then it wont be working anytime soon. have a good day mate!
Ok, I already fix it. First, I lie the logic board and the digitizer outside to heat up for 4 hours under the sun, second, I submerged with rubbing alcohol, third dried up and finalizing, and finally, assembled up, plug the charger in, charge up, boot up, it works!
I search some threads that rubbing alcohol will work.