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Bear with me. If you are an expert on android maybe you can help me out here. First off, I have researched the crap out of this problem and still been unable to fix it, so YES, I did search before making this thread.
I am on a stock, rooted Verizon Galaxy S4. I have been watching my battery consumption carefully via the integrated battery settings menu, battery stats plus and wakelock detector apps. Mainly, there is a program or set of programs that typically is called "Google Services" that according to the integrated battery menu is consuming anywhere between 20-45% of my battery, sometimes more than the screen on time! My battery life is around 48hrs with 10hrs screen time but that is on the massive zerolemon 7500mah battery which I just bought, so I am not sure if that is above, below or just average (i.e. I have no real standard by which to judge).
Like I said I have read probably every thread about this problem with remedies such as; disable location, turn off google now, turn off google maps reporting, uninstall updates for google play/google play services/google framework settings, turn off google sync etc. I have tried them ALL, none seem to work. I have a feeling the issue is perhaps more in depth and above my head.
It gets more complicated. Although the stock android integrated battery menu reports it as using a massive amount of battery, the other two apps I mentioned above do not even report it, or at least not under a name that I regonize (perhaps that categorize it under a different process?). Under them screen time is by far the highest consumer.
So what to make of this? Is it a false report that the stock integrated android battery menu is reporting, and thus something to disregard? I doubt that because there are many other threads out there of people with the same problem and questions I have. But It's also not like my battery drains within hours. For instance, today I have been off the charge for 12.5hrs, with 3hrs and 40min of screen time and have 63% remaining on the 7500mah zerolemon extended battery.
If you can help, please do. If this is indeed a major drain I would really like to fix it.
EDIT: Maybe I should have posted this in the general S4 forum?
Make sure you're running the most recent version of the Play Store, version 4.1.10. There was an issue with the previous version that was causing battery drain. Just do a search for the most recent play store .apk file and install it with the package installer.
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iwearthebelt said:
Make sure you're running the most recent version of the Play Store, version 4.1.10. There was an issue with the previous version that was causing battery drain. Just do a search for the most recent play store .apk file and install it with the package installer.
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Yes! I saw this recommendation a million times. I was runing 4.1.6, which without much thought I assumed was newer than 4.1.10 (I interpreted the .10 to be a one instead of ten). But after your post it "clicked" for me, so I manually updated the play store and will see after the next charge whether it worked. Thanks again.
Gulanowski said:
Yes! I saw this recommendation a million times. I was runing 4.1.6, which without much thought I assumed was newer than 4.1.10 (I interpreted the .10 to be a one instead of ten). But after your post it "clicked" for me, so I manually updated the play store and will see after the next charge whether it worked. Thanks again.
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iwearthebelt said:
Make sure you're running the most recent version of the Play Store, version 4.1.10. There was an issue with the previous version that was causing battery drain. Just do a search for the most recent play store .apk file and install it with the package installer.
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So it looks like this did NOT work for me. Google services is still draining my battery.
Gulanowski said:
So it looks like this did NOT work for me. Google services is still draining my battery.
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If it were me, I would next try flashing the no-wipe stock image from open1your1eyes0. I'm pretty sure that will fix your issue while leaving your apps & settings intact. It'll save you a lot of time and aggrevation as well.
I've been having a similar problem as well where every day google services seem to take up about 40% of my battery... I just updated to 4.1.10 play store and unchecked the Wifi & Mobile Network location in location setting yesterday evening. let see if this helps... today 3 hrs with no Google Services in my battery reading yet...
DA717 said:
I've been having a similar problem as well where every day google services seem to take up about 40% of my battery... I just updated to 4.1.10 play store and unchecked the Wifi & Mobile Network location in location setting yesterday evening. let see if this helps... today 3 hrs with no Google Services in my battery reading yet...
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Well, I may have spoken too soon with my above post. As soon as I unplugged my phone earlier today I saw google services eating up the majority of my battery. But of course that only accounted for 1 or 2 minutes as I had just unplugged it. As the day progressed the amount used by google services did go up but not by as much as it previously had. So perhaps the update of google play store to 4.1.10 did work.
Currently, after being off the charger for 8hrs with about 1hr of screentime google services has used up 9% of the battery, which although not where I'd hoped is still much better than before.
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Well, I may have spoken too soon with my above post. As soon as I unplugged my phone earlier today I saw google services eating up the majority of my battery. But of course that only accounted for 1 or 2 minutes as I had just unplugged it. As the day progressed the amount used by google services did go up but not by as much as it previously had. So perhaps the update of google play store to 4.1.10 did work.
Currently, after being off the charger for 8hrs with about 1hr of screentime google services has used up 9% of the battery, which although not where I'd hoped is still much better than before.
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well thats progress. As for myself, 1hr 27m screentime and 1 hr 40m voice call and off the charger for 10hrs 30mins. currently the battery is at 65% with no Google Services usage in sight. This is with Wifi, bt, and gps all enabled.
Go to data usage and tap on EACH program you do not need to have running background data and disable the background data. I only leave things unchecked like google play and services, email, just only a couple of things needed to get your messages. I freeze maps untill i need them and only have google location service on and gps and VZW off obviously. I only have email sync once an hour and only work email as i manually check for personal email.
Do that and your google services will behave. Android System never goes above 2% and Android OS is never above 5% unless im using wifi and such then it might creep up to about 9% after a few hours. Nothing else is ever above 9% unless its screen or device idle or cell standby.
Well, according to the stock battery report google services is still eating up my battery at 34% usage at 2h 19m. I unplugged 13h ago and used 2h 42m of screen time and am down to 28%.
BatteryStatsPlus reports google services as "Google Account Management", and although it says it has used the same time (2h 19m), it reports it as having used 6.42%. So I wonder if this is an issue of the stock battery report being too high, or whether google services really does consume 34%?
I'd really prefer to not start flashing things or wiping the phone. I hate messing with it and although I rooted it that is as far as I'd like to go. But that google play store 4.1.10 update didn't work.
Yes you heard it right ,i have tested this on two phones with xposed install
i have tested this for 5 days
greenify makes eats up your battery so fast and actuall battery wont gets swollen so easily
test it yourself i have tested many times and found greenify the culprit
i dont know how actually works the way it hibernates but after uninstalling you can see significant change in your battery
thanks
Maybe a problem of your setup.
Jasi2169 said:
Yes you heard it right ,i have tested this on two phones with xposed install
i have tested this for 5 days
greenify makes eats up your battery so fast and actuall battery wont gets swollen so easily
test it yourself i have tested many times and found greenify the culprit
i dont know how actually works the way it hibernates but after uninstalling you can see significant change in your battery
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When this has happened to me (and it has) I found that greenify and another app were in a war, greenify was forcibly trying to hibernate the app and the app kept forcibly waking up from hibernation causing greenify to hibernate it again (repeat until battery is dead).
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When this has happened to me (and it has) I found that greenify and another app were in a war, greenify was forcibly trying to hibernate the app and the app kept forcibly waking up from hibernation causing greenify to hibernate it again (repeat until battery is dead).
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yes and my battery never last for 12 hours with greenify but without greenify it last over 24hours thn i put it for charging
Jasi2169 said:
yes and my battery never last for 12 hours with greenify but without greenify it last over 24hours thn i put it for charging
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However, the solution was simple, just do not greenify the app causing the war. Then the apps that were greenified would play nice and the other apps are free to go about there business. I do not believe greenify was intended to have all of your apps in the list. Just ugly nasty battery draining, refusing to quit ones like facebook (which I do not even have installed).
u knw i dnt have bloat installd lyk fb messngr or so,i have only wwhtsapp to talk to my gf n frnds nd just sme apps but without greenify im happy cus i dnt have battery prblm then why use greenify no need
if u put battery code in ur build.prop to monitor u will c greenify keeps eatng battery
Unlucky for you. I notice much better battery stats WITH Greenify running. Always have.
Totally noob bs. Must be other problem. Recently tried few days both devices without Greenify. Battery drains so much more and faster. Also unmodded LP Preview on Art on my N7-13 tiny bit more battery life than KK on Dalvik unmodded. However KK modded with X-modules (Greenify extra, Amplify, etc) hours extra battery life.
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i think since i have install greenify my battery is draning faster
juliatan said:
Totally noob bs. Must be other problem. Recently tried few days both devices without Greenify. Battery drains so much more and faster. Also unmodded LP Preview on Art on my N7-13 tiny bit more battery life than KK on Dalvik unmodded. However KK modded with X-modules (Greenify extra, Amplify, etc) hours extra battery life.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 7 (2013), iPad Mini 2 of Moto G Lte
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im just saying abt my experience i have edited and build.prop and put the battery codes in it for its logs and what i found i told ,,no bs i have pretty well knowledge abt these stuff brother
i dnt knw it work for other people or not but in my case definitely no even with donated version
if its work for then u lucky
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It did after update
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muiriddin said:
However, the solution was simple, just do not greenify the app causing the war. Then the apps that were greenified would play nice and the other apps are free to go about there business. I do not believe greenify was intended to have all of your apps in the list. Just ugly nasty battery draining, refusing to quit ones like facebook (which I do not even have installed).
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how do i find which app is "causing the war?"
War Detection...
skiier54 said:
how do i find which app is "causing the war?"
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In my case a set of apps had been updated around the time my battery drain had started. I removed the apps that had been updated and seemed to always be awake from the hibernation list and added them back one at a time (per day in my case) and found that a version of Microsoft's OneDrive was refusing to hibernate properly. Once I removed it from the list my problem went away. Another clue for me was the fact that the problematic version of OneDrive was showing up in the battery usage screen for android when it was greenified when it had never been there before...
A later version of onedrive has fixed the problem and last I tried you could now hibernate that app again...
Another approach is to unhibernate everything and add the apps back to the list one at a time observing the behavior.
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In my case a set of apps had been updated around the time my battery drain had started. I removed the apps that had been updated and seemed to always be awake from the hibernation list and added them back one at a time (per day in my case) and found that a version of Microsoft's OneDrive was refusing to hibernate properly. Once I removed it from the list my problem went away. Another clue for me was the fact that the problematic version of OneDrive was showing up in the battery usage screen for android when it was greenified when it had never been there before...
A later version of onedrive has fixed the problem and last I tried you could now hibernate that app again...
Another approach is to unhibernate everything and add the apps back to the list one at a time observing the behavior.
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hm okay that makes sense. one of my apps (peel smart remote) always seemed to be un-hibernated even though i never opened it so i disabled it. lets see what happens
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how do i find which app is "causing the war?"
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A way to find out is to lock your device, let it with the screen off for like 5 minutes, unlock it and open Greenify. See if there is any app that's not hibernated. Those that aren't you must remove them from the list to be hibernated.
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...ones like facebook (which I do not even have installed).
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I'd like to be able to use the Facebook app, but, wouldn't dream of installing it w/o Greenify.
Android should have built in the default setting that any apps you install do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING unless you actually HAVE THEM OPEN. Checking for updates, giving you notifications, etc. should all come off by default and only go on when a user chooses to specifically turn them on!
Ok so after the Lollipop update my battery life has been less than stellar. On kit kat i would usually have around 40% battery life left at the end of a day with medium use but now with lollipop I'm ending the day closer to 15% with the same use. This is usually with between 2 and 3 hours SOT. The only thing I've noticed that is any different is google services seems to be using more battery than normal, not a ton but more. Also i cant seem to get it to go into low battery use in location setting, it always stays on high battery use even when in battery savings mode. Anyone with thoughts on this?
Have you tried using greenify? It stops apps from refreshing in the background and if you buy the pro version you can stop system apps from refreshing. You may want to try this xposed module it will go and save major battery. I personally am on barepop (I uninstalled some extra apps though) and have both apps running in the background and I it takes about 10 minuates for the battery to die by even 1%. By the time I wake up and use my phone with heavy use all day long (6am-4pm est) I get home without about 60-65% of battery. You may also want to turn things off when your not using them such as data/nfc and bluetooth.
Xposed module: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ryansteckler.nlpunbounce
Xposed link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811
I am not rooted and am trying to stay that way, at least for a while. I do have greenify but only the free version so it is kind of limited. I haven't found any wakelock detectors that work without root so i cant get any real specifics on whats causing the drain. I just find it strange that google services will not go into low battery mode.
Try this guide it should allow you to stop apps from running in the background:http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2trjxf/xpost_rlgg3_the_g3_has_a_hidden_nonroot
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Try this guide it should allow you to stop apps from running in the background:http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2trjxf/xpost_rlgg3_the_g3_has_a_hidden_nonroot
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thanks, ill look into it
OK Best of luck.
Nothing in there for anything related to Google services. I don't know why it wont go into low battery usage, i checked all my Google settings and still cant figure it out.
Ok, well today i decided to just uninstall updates for google services, reboot, install the updates, and reboot again. And after dealing with the phone telling me there was no sim card twice, everything seemed to go back to normal, no more high battery usage from google services.
I stay in China a lot of the time, and swap to a Chinese sim when I'm here.
The problem is, that, China as of the beginning of this year has now effectively blocked ALL of Google's services. I wouldn't mind it that much, but it's causing an extreme battery drain on my Note 3.
I can be sure it's a problem from the Google block, because I used this phone last year when Google was not yet completely blocked without problem, and now, when outside China the battery life is as expected.
This is probably due to the wakelocks or alarms when the phone tries to ping or communicate with Google services.
The phone gets noticeably hot in my pocket ALL the time.
Biggest battery drains are always listed as "Google play services" and "Android system". Again, only happens in China. Connecting the phone to a VPN helps, but that's not a solution. It eats up my data a lot.
TL;DR: China's block of Google is causing massive battery drain in my android phone.
So my question is, how can I "disable" or de-googleify my phone temporarily or even permanently? I've tried "disabler" apps, that don't seem to help. Is it safe to just completely uninstall Google Play services? My problem is I am still tied to Google for contacts, emails and such, so I still need that functionality.
U can greenify google play services
Search on xda about greenify
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adeelraj said:
U can greenify google play services
Search on xda about greenify
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I've used greenify since my last Android phone.
I've greenified almost every non essential app on my phone already, Google play services is not in that list.
Are u rooted or u paid greenify u are using
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Rooted, using standard greenify.
I also tried a hard reset and using it non-rooted. Exactly the same.
Did you manage to resolve this as i am having the Same issues ?
phony said:
Rooted, using standard greenify.
I also tried a hard reset and using it non-rooted. Exactly the same.
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Rooted and I have the same problem also. It's a pain having to use a powerpack 24/7
is it advisable to use Greenify (Donate) + Amplify (Donate) + Powernap all together? Please reply... i'm very confused
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is it advisable to use Greenify (Donate) + Amplify (Donate) + Powernap all together? Please reply... i'm very confused
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I don't think that anyone will certify that it is advisable or not advisable. But the fact remains that if properly set up, the three can and are working satisfactorily for many people. The keyword here is setup.
thank you for replying.... I'm just a newbie with Amplify and Powernap
Amplify or Powrrnsp is pretty useless if you get Greenify, unless you need to freeze some special system services
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Amplify or Powrrnsp is pretty useless if you get Greenify, unless you need to freeze some special system services
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Amplify can limit specific wakelocks/alarms which Greenify can not do. So each one has its own functionality. When used in conjunction with proper setup, they can give you amazing battery life.
For freezing, none of the three would work.
So whats the correct setup with these three?
Ubimo said:
So whats the correct setup with these three?
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The correct setup is one in which your phone works as desired by you without any hiccups.
In other words, there is no universal setup applicable to all. It depends on the phone, model, ROM, apps installed, expected behaviour of apps etc (way too many).
However there is a guide, underline the word guide, which will help you to set these apps up as per your requirements. Beyond that it is a trial and error process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
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is it advisable to use Greenify (Donate) + Amplify (Donate) + Powernap all together? Please reply... i'm very confused
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They all do 3 different things, so yes they indeed all help.
They're all used in this extreme battery guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
Greenify completely limits background services which help keeping the device smooth and save battery (besides, you can enable GCM push for some apps).
Amplify delay alarms and wakelocks on things you can't really Greenify without something will go wrong, like Google Play Service or apps that you rely on, but not so often as the developer want, like mine check for location once every hour, for Facebook Messages every 2 min and so on.
PowerNap is for the perfect deep sleep. Whitelist what you rely on and the rest will get blocked and can only run when your screen is unlocked (etc game notifications. I don't want them greenified, as I want them, neither apmlified, as i don't want them when screen is off).
If you got more questions, feel free to ask.
But as said, what is working and stable for me, might be a big loss of functionality for other people.
So you should make all 3 apps work to exactly your desire and you won't feel that you're limiting your phones features.
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Amplify or Powrrnsp is pretty useless if you get Greenify, unless you need to freeze some special system services
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Amplify and powernap is pretty useless??
or U don't have any idea.
I haven't used it recently but I had great battery with amplify less so with powernap. But it might have been updated since I last tried it.
Im not a satisfied user of Amplify as well, tried a lot of options, the ones described on this forum as well, I have a different phone now but the same error "Unfortunately, Google apps has stopped working". Cant find which wakelock/alarm/service has this affect on it (any ideas?) and its popping up a lot so I rather uninstall it.
zbysogi said:
Im not a satisfied user of Amplify as well, tried a lot of options, the ones described on this forum as well, I have a different phone now but the same error "Unfortunately, Google apps has stopped working". Cant find which wakelock/alarm/service has this affect on it (any ideas?) and its popping up a lot so I rather uninstall it.
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Unlimit "icing". It is not Amplify's fault. Limiting icing was working well till the first week of May. Then Google updated Play Services and all hell broke loose.
From my point of view only Greenify is needed. I used to use that combination for an year and battery life is now better with only Greenify. I also ditched Xposed and amplify. I couldn't believe it myself but battery life is better for me without amplify. During the night my phone consumes 0,2% battery and that's super good.
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This is the best setup)
No greenify no amplify no power nap
I mever noticed any improvement using amplify or greenify
Just let your phone do it s thing you will be surprised :d
Greenify and amplify were good on 4.4 and maybe 5.1...marshmallow it s best at standby