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I'm trying to decided between the Galaxy Nexus and the Droid 4.
I'm assuming Droid4 and RAZR will have the same exact hardware and therefore be pretty much interchangeable ROM wise. Is this correct?
If that is the case I'm heavily leaning toward the Droid 4 but it depends on 2 things.
1. With the "removable back", the battery being accessible without removing glued on case components(just screws)
2. The developer support for the RAZR/Droid4 being sizable despite the locked bootloader.
Thoughts?
The developer support is still growing and I think we will be satisfied in the end. But is not a nexus though.
There are some things happening already, for example someone have been able too boot ICS.
Also the bootloader will be unlocked when Moto releases ICS.
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Also the bootloader will be unlocked when Moto releases ICS.
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This is confirmed officially even on Verizon? If so the Droid 4 wins me over hands down.
Natolx said:
This is confirmed officially even on Verizon? If so the Droid 4 wins me over hands down.
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No, I'm sorry didn't think of Veri.
Moto said that they would unlock the bootloader if the operator is okay with it. So it's up to Verizon, and what I have heard they probably won't allow it.
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No, I'm sorry didn't think of Veri.
Moto said that they would unlock the bootloader if the operator is okay with it. So it's up to Verizon, and what I have heard they probably won't allow it.
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After doing some brief research on this, I read that the unlock tool that is released with the ICS update abroad will "probably" allow developers to unlock the Verizon RAZR. Is this actually likely?
Natolx said:
After doing some brief research on this, I read that the unlock tool that is released with the ICS update abroad will "probably" allow developers to unlock the Verizon RAZR. Is this actually likely?
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Likely? Probably not, but it might be possible for a dev to reverse engineer or figure it out...
Lots of IFs, but with Safestrap out now and devs working on roms, after we get FXZ or SBF, we will have a great device with lots of options for ROMs.
1. IIRC, the Droid 4 will also lack a removable battery.
2. ICS might not be released until May or June. By then the Razr will be an "old" phone, so it might not really take off with developers if it does not build momentum in the next 2-3 months while it is still "new."
-but from the looks of it the development of the Razr seems to be really starting to take off.
3. In terms of user base, the one thing that really helped the Razr was the 1 cent Amazon Wireless deal. It was the top phone available on Verizon at the time, so I'm sure that built a good base of users- but maybe not the type of users who develop ROMs.
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1. IIRC, the Droid 4 will also lack a removable battery.
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The Droid 4, there is some question as to whether the phone will have a removable battery or not.
The test units were not sent with the case removal tool that was seen on the spec sheet that was released today.
I haven't seen a new confirmation on the removable battery yet, and Motorola never confirmed anything on this front.
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2. ICS might not be released until May or June. By then the Razr will be an "old" phone, so it might not really take off with developers if it does not build momentum in the next 2-3 months while it is still "new."
-but from the looks of it the development of the Razr seems to be really starting to take off.
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That is of course IF - and this is a big IF, the Razr's bootloader gets unlocked before that. And judging by what I have seen, it doesn't take that long if the phone is a flagship phone... Correct me if I am wrong
armanatz said:
That is of course IF - and this is a big IF, the Razr's bootloader gets unlocked before that. And judging by what I have seen, it doesn't take that long if the phone is a flagship phone... Correct me if I am wrong
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The boatloader won't get unlocked. You'll see a workaround, like a 2nd-init, or something along those lines, but Verizon won't allow unlocked boatloaders, and Motorola is going to comply with Verizon's desire to keep the boatloader in lockdown.
That won't stop development, and ASOP ROM's which is what Droid Th3ory is working on, an ASOP ICS port.
mhhh but the Atrix have unlocked bootloader, why only that moto have that luck?
Atrix is on at&t. The carrier designates whether the boatloader stays locked or not. It isn't moto's decision.
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Atrix is on at&t. The carrier designates whether the boatloader stays locked or not. It isn't moto's decision.
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Except for the Galaxy Nexus...
So vzw allows the GNex unlocked but locks the Moto phones? Why?
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So vzw allows the GNex unlocked but locks the Moto phones? Why?
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Very good question. Why don't you ask them? It would be interesting to hear their reply.
Well it looks like dev on this phone is dead!
I mean they have already released ICS 4.0.2 for the vzw GN and we ain't got **** yet!!
Looks like I'm going to have give this phone the wifey and go get me a GN.
Don't get me wrong I love the phone but no dev spt is a bummer!
...What are you talking about. The Nexus shipped with ICS in the first place, of course it got it before we did. And it got 4.0.2 update 2 hours later straight from Google. That has nothing to do with Dev support.
And naturally, since it's a Nexus device, it's gonna get ages more dev support than any other phone. But we are getting places ourselves. DroidTh3ory released RAZRX two days ago. He's working on ICS right now. We got Safestrap 2 days ago. Once we get the FXZ files we're probably going to get like 200x the support we're getting right now. Not to mention the Nexus' hardware which is composed of fantastic innards, but a plastic, easy-to-chip case, normal glass screen with minimal scratch resistance, & a weak radio.
It boggles me how you can say dev support is dead with all of the stuff that's LITERALLY happened in the past two days.
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So vzw allows the GNex unlocked but locks the Moto phones? Why?
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I posted this somewhere else, there's really 2 reasons for this:
1) Google required that the Nexus come "open".
2) In the agreement to carry the phone, essentially Samsung & Google have taken over support for the phone, to the point where the contract, while through Verizon, is actually supported by Google, and therefore they can dictate the bootloader.
That's what I could gather from reading up on how the Nexus came to be a Verizon phone. There were some pretty heavy negotiations here, and Verizon didn't want Sprint to get the phone, and couldn't stand to have another Iphone/Att&t exclusive situation happen again.
Now, for Moto, they are already heavily tied to Verizon, and so they have no leverage for getting their devices to be released as open.
They even were first (I believe) to start saying they wanted open phones, back when the xoom was released. They made a statement that by late 2011 they were going to release all their phones with unlocked bootloaders like the xoom was......that didn't happen because Verizon threatened to pull the phones if they did that.
Verizon even forced HTC to remove it's bootloader unlock tool on the web, if I'm not mistaken.
So it's really not Moto's fault, it's Verizon's, and the Nexus is going to be the way it is because Google has control, not Verizon.
yeah except the nexus ships locked and is unlockable through adb.
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So what you're saying is we'll get a ICS Rom from developers long before any Verizon update to ICS.....right? Because waiting till June is absurd! This phone is just too friggin good to not get some attention......is my opin,anyway....
Just saw kholks post on Motodev's forums. He got his dev ed. Razr but the bootloader is still locked....
ETA: Link http://community.developer.motorola.com/t5/Bootloader/Motorola-RAZR-Developers-Edition-Can-t-unlock-the-bootloader/td-p/23102
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Just saw kholks post on Motodev's forums. He got his dev ed. Razr but the bootloader is still locked....
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And to note also, "fastboot oem unlock" won't unlock its bootloader!
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And to note also, "fastboot oem unlock" won't unlock its bootloader!
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It just went from motofail to motoFAILLLLLLL
lol motofail
What the actual F*** ?!??? What the hell was the point of the developer edition if the boot loader isn't unlocked straight off?
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What the actual F*** ?!??? What the hell was the point of the developer edition if the boot loader isn't unlocked straight off?
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Exactly...between this and US versions of Razr ICS release date. I'm done with Moto after this Razr is sold...but I'm probably kiddin myself b/c I love the build quality and radios of Moto's phones...but c'mon Moto, you're killin us.
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between this and US versions of Razr ICS release date. I'm done with Moto after this Razr is sold...but I'm probably kiddin myself b/c I love the build quality and radios of Moto's phones...but c'mon Moto, you're killin us.
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Agreed. Audio and build quality is far superior to Samsung and the latest HTC's I have seen add of late. But thus bootloader business is ****ed up and unacceptable you loyal Motorola customers
I think you summed up motorola perfectly: ****ED UP AND UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR. I would hope that some google executive is on the ball enough be monitoring threads like this as it is the premier mobile device development site on earth. so please keep that in mind dear google excecutive: ****ED UP AND UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR. please also discuss at your next meeting and Change The Behavior. thank you.
Now they say....
"hey guys. We're working on getting the files updated on our website. Stay tuned and thanks for your patience."
Moto and to all it may concern,
We loyal Motorola customers (check my sig if you don't believe my loyalty to Motorola), have been waiting...clinging to our last hopes, that your words bear some weight or meaning to your repeated empty promises.
We were told unlocked bootloaders by the end of 2011, didn't happen and we are well into 2012. We were told ICS soon for our Razrs. CDMA Razrs are looking at the earliest Q3 of 2012 or later. While essentially every other manufacturers flagship phone(s) has or will have some version of Android 4.0. And now..you slap us in the face not once but twice with the Dev Edition Droid Razr.
The first slap was thinking this "Dev Edition" would shut us up, satisfy our hunger for being able to truly develop on the Razr. Then you kick us while we're down by releasing this clusterfuck of an idea all the while STILL LOCKING THE BOOTLOADER. Then when you're called out on it, you have the ****ing balls to say, oops sorry about that guys, we're working on it.
So essentially kholk is holding onto a regular $6-700 Droid Razr with no ****ing warranty what so ever. My middle finger is extended to you Motorola and my pants are dropped just waiting for my "bootloader" to hit the back of your ****ing throats.
If Moto is working on a fix to unlock the RAZR Dev edition bootloader, could that mean the fix could somehow be applied to the regular RAZR? That would be interesting.
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If Moto is working on a fix to unlock the RAZR Dev edition bootloader, could that mean the fix could somehow be applied to the regular RAZR? That would be interesting.
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This is a very good point. What if the fix is something akin to HTC's unlock system for their phones bootloaders? Bare with me because it's been a hot minute since I was on a Motorola phone, but do Motorola phones have to deal with S-Off bullcrap? Because if they were able to provide keys to unlock the bootloader and y'all don't have to deal with S-Off, then wouldn't this be the perfect solution?
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I am hoping that is the case. But here is what I am guessing is really going on.
The phone is like a regular locked down Razr, but the Dev Edition doesn't have the e-fuse chip to lock it. They probably just put the stock files on it. Instead it's locked through some other way, until Moto can make a blurgastic bootloader unlock utility for the Dev Edition.
W/ that said I'm hope I'm very wrong about that guess.
I'm forwarding this thread to Motorola
Xperia x10(Feralabs Rom) After trying all roms it was my Fav.
Now on the RAZR.
I see you Drinking that ¥Hateraid¥
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any progress here??? Because on forums.motorola.com they link to this:
developer.motorola.com/products/bootloader/
and pretend like everything is OK.
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http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-finally-unlocking-bootloaders-for-real-this-time-20120726
1. do yall think this will make it to the dx2/mx2
2. does this make motorola legit now, or is this smoke and mirrors
No because they stated they had no interest in doing it for older phones. =/
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Better read some more. This is only for the Motorola Q (or something like that which is new) and it's for Sprint customers only.
Moto has already stated they have no plans to unlock older phones. As it is, Samsung can't unlock the bootloader on the SG3 on Verizon, so those of us on Verizon, forget it.
iBolski said:
Better read some more. This is only for the Motorola Q (or something like that which is new) and it's for Sprint customers only.
Moto has already stated they have no plans to unlock older phones. As it is, Samsung can't unlock the bootloader on the SG3 on Verizon, so those of us on Verizon, forget it.
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I believe it was the Photon, I had a MotoQ about 3 phones ago, it had winmo on it.
And yeah, pretty much what everybody else said, moto has already forgotten they made the X2, I won't hold my breath.
Everyone here should know that I'm one who has always held out hope that an unlocking of the x2 will happen.
But the fact is, Motorola and vzw will never ALLOW it to be unlocked.
The ONLY way for it to ever get unlocked is for someone to get down and dirty and really break this thing apart, or for a leaked file to be found.
It sucks, my dream is still there, but the rational side of me has all but taken over and hope is almost all lost in my eyes.
Now let's see....maybe I'll flash that atrix sbf to my x2 and restore a vzw nandroid....... hahahahahaha
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Everyone here should know that I'm one who has always held out hope that an unlocking of the x2 will happen.
But the fact is, Motorola and vzw will never ALLOW it to be unlocked.
The ONLY way for it to ever get unlocked is for someone to get down and dirty and really break this thing apart, or for a leaked file to be found.
It sucks, my dream is still there, but the rational side of me has all but taken over and hope is almost all lost in my eyes.
Now let's see....maybe I'll flash that atrix sbf to my x2 and restore a vzw nandroid....... hahahahahaha
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im sure they wont unlock any older phones, but if they release a tool there may be hope for some one to use to figure out a way to unlock them. i know its just wishful thinking on my part because i actually love my mx2 now that i have cm9 running on it. just think this give us, ever so small, a sliver of hope.
Older phones not likely at all its not worth it to Motorola to have developers 'waste time' on older phones when there are newer ones to develop. Now if they release a tool there's a possibility that someone may be able to modify it to unlock unsupported phones. I've been messing with MOTO phones for several years and have bricked more than a few by accident. I'll take a look at the bootloader for the mx2 (that's what I have) and see if I can find something. But no guarantees, no doubtably other people with more time knowledge and experience have taken a crack at it. Hence how we know what we do about it.
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Not happening.
Here is a great article and discussion thread on the subject in general.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/08/0...-and-verizon-allow-you-to-unlock-bootloaders/
Motorola unlocking bootloaders?
Okay...who let Melvin outta jail?
Lol
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ionicone said:
im sure they wont unlock any older phones, but if they release a tool there may be hope for some one to use to figure out a way to unlock them. i know its just wishful thinking on my part because i actually love my mx2 now that i have cm9 running on it. just think this give us, ever so small, a sliver of hope.
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Oh trust me, ill never let my dream fully die, but we have better chances of not even needing an unlocked bootloader b
Via a "bootloader bypass" like kexec along with our 2nd init. That's where the majority of attention should be focused imho
Cuz with kexec working, we can DickSlapMoto all day even with a.locked BL
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Motorola unlocking bootloaders?
Okay...who let Melvin outta jail?
Lol
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Oh trust me, ill never let my dream fully die, but we have better chances of not even needing an unlocked bootloader b
Via a "bootloader bypass" like kexec along with our 2nd init. That's where the majority of attention should be focused imho
Cuz with kexec working, we can DickSlapMoto all day even with a.locked BL
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i came from htc where the bootloader was the thing kexec is all new to me so forgive my ignorance.
Any word on X2 bootloader getting unlocked?
Not happening.
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Not for now...maybe later?
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Not for now...maybe later?
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At one point I had hope that Motorola would do the right thing for us Droid X2 users but I gave up hope and got a GNex instead. Might as well face it, chances of getting struck by lightning are greater than Motorola unlocking it. I'm sure they've already long forgotten they've made this, um, fine device. Right now kexec and DKZ is the DX2's only hope for survival.
If I remember correctly, the X2 was launched last May; so this Nov it will be a year and a half old; doubt Moto will put much effort into it now. I think I'll hold out for the Razr HD, hopefully it will be out by Oct.
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If I remember correctly, the X2 was launched last May; so this Nov it will be a year and a half old; doubt Moto will put much effort into it now. I think I'll hold out for the Razr HD, hopefully it will be out by Oct.
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Verizon is really the problem. Motorola wanted to unlock several devices and big V said no way. The V wants to nickle and dime you for every little feature so they sure don't want you adding any "unauthorized" enhancements. I hear rumors they will soon charge you an extra $10 to access Facebook.
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Verizon is really the problem. Motorola wanted to unlock several devices and big V said no way. The V wants to nickle and dime you for every little feature so they sure don't want you adding any "unauthorized" enhancements. I hear rumors they will soon charge you an extra $10 to access Facebook.
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F*** that BS, that would make thousands if not millions of people super angry, I've heard that too, but that would a dumb choice on their end, although this is Verizon we're talking about here...
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Oh, I think you can bet that extra charge is coming in some fashion to a a phone near you. My bet is that the V will follow AT&T and use it as a way to force you off the unlimited data plan into the more costly shared plan. See below.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/tech...ont-charge-extra-facetime-it-kind-will/55915/
Yet another way the iPhone and crapple are going to affect everyone else who don't even use their products. I hope they lose the lawsuit.
The device is VERY affordable for the price of $49.99.. with a number port or new line of service..
Some Dealers are even giving it away free with a new line of service.
But.. this device overall draws No Interest even though you get some decent features for a decent price.
Maybe it's because there is no way to revert it back to stock for the foreseeable future for warranty issues or upgrades.. maybe it's having to look at that Warning message everytime you boot up once you unlock the bootloader.. I don't know.
But.. for $49.99 who cares? The Stylo 3+ will do rooted stock with Xposed and some modules.
The Moto E4 / G5s lines along with Xiaomi seem to be your best bet for sub $200.00 devices with a plethora of support.
Thanks For Reading :good:
This phone isn't $50. It's over $200. I agree, though. We do need a dev who can work on Lineage. I'm actually fine with the stock ROM for now.
I Guess You Did Not Know..
AidenSurvival said:
This phone isn't $50. It's over $200. I agree, though.
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I Hate To Be The Bearer Of Bad News...
But.. with MetroPCS you can port over a number from another carrier.. and Yes.. you can get the LG Stylo 3 Plus for just $49.99.. plus 1 Month's service and Tax based on the retail price.. ( If applicable in your state ) so.. if you paid over $200.00.. well I don't know what to say..
RaiderWill said:
I Hate To Be The Bearer Of Bad News...
But.. with MetroPCS you can port over a number from another carrier.. and Yes.. you can get the LG Stylo 3 Plus for just $49.99.. plus 1 Month's service and Tax based on the retail price.. ( If applicable in your state ) so.. if you paid over $200.00.. well I don't know what to say..
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You've never had T-Mobile postpaid. T-Mobile has price discrimination. So, $9/month. or $220 total
Really?
AidenSurvival said:
You've never had T-Mobile postpaid. T-Mobile has price discrimination. So, $9/month. or $220 total
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I Sorry You Were Not Informed Of My Past Purchases....
But... Let me direct your attention to the attached picture below...
You See.... I HAVE HAD T-MOBILE POSTPAID... again, sorry no one informed you of that BEFORE you presumed to know my past.
And... Please.. correct me if I'm wrong.. but I do believe the specifications of the T-Mobile variant and the MetroPCS variant are EXACTLY the same.. again I may be off a spec or two..
Bottom line is.. basically the same device.. Using The Same Towers and one cost $225.00 and the other $49.99.
Frankly, I don't care if my bill is paid 30 days prior of 40 days post...... as long as it's paid.
So.. I'll just keep my MetroPCS variant and use the $170.00 or so savings on other things.
Sorry off subject.
Has anyone successfully flash factory firmware in case of soft brick? For warrenty issues any sucees in custom recovery then bootloader lock in cause one would like to avoid warrenty by unlocking boot loader?
I purchased as second phone. Willing to develop if there is a way to relock bootloader, if there is such a thing. I haven't had time for development since the LG V10
Hello...
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Sorry off subject.
Has anyone successfully flash factory firmware in case of soft brick? For warrenty issues any sucees in custom recovery then bootloader lock in cause one would like to avoid warrenty by unlocking boot loader?
I purchased as second phone. Willing to develop if there is a way to relock bootloader, if there is such a thing. I haven't had time for development since the LG V10
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Hello.. And Welcome To The Party..
Unfortunately, there is no "Stock Factory Firmware" ( a.k.a. KDZ in LG lingo..) I just called LG on this matter yesterday.. and inquired out of curiosity as to when it might be released.. No E.T.A. whatsoever.
Just for kicks.. I inquired about the security patch still being of the April variety.. again, no answer as to when that will be updated as well..
But when it comes to the security patch.. it really does not matter when you unlock your boot loader.. that action alone Opens The Door... to Malware and any other violation you can think of when it comes to Jacking You Up.
That's why companies frown upon having a boot loader with the ability to be unlocked.. they don't want you coming back to them crying with a compromised or bricked device.
Personally, I like the way Motorola / Lenovo does it... and if I ran a company it's certainly the way that I would do it.. Keep it stock, and we have you covered.. or, wave your warranty and they give you the code to unlock your boot loader.. Then You Are On Your Own.. and they have a record of you ASKING to wave your warranty.. and that gives them the right to Refuse fixing your goof ups.
I understand we need to start emailing LG so that they released the firmware we didn't was the LG K10 and now every variant of it has been rooted has TWRP and all firmwares are available.
What about using something like LG up or uppercut to extract the firmware from my stock LG Stylo 3 plus?
I don't have the time two develop, or full knowledge on what is needed to be done for LG MP450.
I'm debating on going back to Metro and just picking up the Stylo 2 plus considering developers are already working on it. Resurrection and lineage are released for Stylo 2. Also there are already released for the LG K-10 not sure what variant you're using I use MetroPCS so mine would be the ms428.
I don't really see any hardware specs that are better on the Stylo 3 than the Stylo 2 other than the internal memory but my goal is to use my 128 GB SDXC card. I can partition some of it to be adaptable another partition to be storage (FAT32) and two other partitions for link2sd and Swapper (EXT4) and lastly swap.
Stylo 3+ Not For You ?
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we need to start emailing LG so that they released the firmware we didn't was the LG K10
I don't have full knowledge on what is needed to be done for LG MP450.
I'm debating on going back to Metro and just picking up the Stylo 2 plus considering developers are already working on it..
I don't really see any hardware specs that are better on the Stylo 3 than the Stylo 2 other than the internal memory.
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LG will release the firmware at some point... Actually, the stock firmware runs just fine.. I have not seen any glitches.. even when I had 100% of LG's setup installed. I'm down to about 30% factory and 70% personal and I'm getting 12+ hours of S.O.T. ( I posted some pics in another thread ) I don't think LG is in a rush.. there is nothing terribly wrong.. "If It Ain't Broke...."
If it's a bunch of ROM's you are looking for... you picked the wrong phone. by the time there is a choice of ROM's there will be a whole new choice of phones to choose from..
The Moto G5s Plus comes to mind.. if you look at the INCREDIBLE support the G5 Plus has ( I owned one but the 5.2 inch screen was just a little too small for me ) Just wait until the G5s Plus with it's 5000 maH battery and 5.5 inch screen and $129.00 price has a few months under it's belt.. it will be "The" bang for the buck device to own if you enjoy Root & ROM's..
Guys is this device has a front flash ?
techboy11 said:
I'm not quite sure what you're asking mate? I don't believe this phone has a front flash for the camera, but I just got mine yesterday so I haven't tried it yet.
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So, let me start off by saying, I'm a hobbyist developer myself. Haven't posted a lot (if at all, to my closest friends) things that I've done for the many Android phones I've owned in the past. I just happen to grab this interesting device yesterday in Canada. Looking at this thread in particular, I don't believe this would be a form of motivation for me to start developing anything for this phone publicly, whether it be for the requested Metro PCS "cheaper" model, or what have you.
The OP seems to suggest that most developers can't afford phones, which I personally find offensive, as I work my butt off to go through as many phones as I do/have. Sure, I've seen a few, which I find them to be genuine and supportive of their work, I've never minded supporting.
This thread also feels like most "ETA??" threads that I've seen for even more popular phones I've had, such as my beloved recent Nexus 6P.
All in all, this is just my two cents. I'll keep following and lurking around to see if someone decides to work out something for the Stylo. I've never owned the Stylo variant of LG phones before, and so far I love it as just stock, which is a very new (and good) feeling for me.
~Cheers
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Yes i meant the front camera flash, on gsmarena is mentioned that it have a front flash that's why i wanted to make sure.
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Yes i meant the front camera flash, on gsmarena is mentioned that it have a front flash that's why i wanted to make sure.
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Just tried it man and yeah, it totally does. Pretty bright, too. Blinded myself at 8 in the morning. hahaha :laugh: :good:
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Just tried it man and yeah, it totally does. Pretty bright, too. Blinded myself at 8 in the morning. hahaha :laugh: :good:
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Great :laugh:
One or two slightly antagonistic posts removed.. hopefully we can move on.
Mike
nvm
just got this phone today so if any devs ever pick up please contact me if you need testers.
No I'm actually happy with the phone I don't need a bunch of ROMs. I'm comfortable with unlocking the bootloader and flashing stock. My only concern was through MetroPCS they have the phone replacement program if something happens to your phone you pay the deductible and get a new one. I know that unlocking the bootloader blow void the warranty not sure how that works with paying the $6 a month in case the phone is lost or stolen.
I would actually like to start developing on my own again. Although I've been out of the game for a few years I know I can get back into it fairly easily. Because of my circumstances I am going to stick with the LG Stylo 3 plus from Metro PCS. As of now I disable any OTA updates I have yet to unlock Bootloader install custom recovery and root phone.
I am paying for the $6 a month extra to replace phone if lost or stolen. Or if during the process of development I broke it and I can say it was lost or stolen. I do like the phone. Thank you so much for being around hopefully within the next day or two I can grab my sisters laptop and install custom recovery, root, ROM is available. And go from there
stock
Is there any way I can get the stock firmware?
The device is VERY affordable for the price of $49.99.. with a number port or new line of service..
Some Dealers are even giving it away free with a new line of service.
But.. this device overall draws No Interest even though you get some decent features for a decent price.
Maybe it's because there is no way to revert it back to stock for the foreseeable future for warranty issues or upgrades.. maybe it's having to look at that Warning message everytime you boot up once you unlock the bootloader.. I don't know.
But.. for $49.99 who cares? The Stylo 3+ will do rooted stock with Xposed and some modules.
The Moto E4 / G5s lines along with Xiaomi seem to be your best bet for sub $200.00 devices with a plethora of support.
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as a kdz is out, i started creating the tree
is there any way to unlock bootloader and root moto Z droid xt1650-01 ??? help me out of this
I've been searching, hunting , crying since July tryin to find how to get damned root on the 01 variant. I'm still searching daily hoping that I'll finally come across something that works.
Unfortunately, this variant doesn't have enough attention from the development community. Which for us consumers means as of right now this phone is the way it's going to be. It's a shame because this phone feels really good. Has tons of features, and it's actually unique among the masses. I'll hold out hoping for something. I don't plan on upgrading until next year. (Using motox pure "Clark" as my DD).
Good luck.
Apparently it can't be rooted. The GSM version can and the unlocked Moto Z2 Play which works on Verizon can as well
this is so much disappointing i sold my Clark just to buy this phone as i was thinking about playsing some roms on that one but now missing my clark