[Q] Nanadroid Backup Crompressions Risk? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I have a simple question. In my philz recovery the default nandroid backup format is tar. There is an option for compression but when clicked i am asked to change default format to tar.gz (tar + gz).
After setting default format to tar.gz, i can choose the compression type: low, medium, high and fast. If untouched it sets to low automatically.
Now my question is what are the risk of having a highly (high compression) nandroid backup (tar.gz) as compared to a low compressed or tar format itself.
I know it sounds like a stupid question, but i have this question because, if highly compressed saves the most space, why isnt it the default setting in the recovery. Surely must be a reason they didt put it as a default if it is soo good as to safe space. I doubt that they didt do it because it would take longer for the backup to run right?
I am just seeking to confirm. So is there any risk of having a highly compressed nandroid backup in tar.gz format? And will i be still be able to explore contents of the nandroid backup and do selective restore like a normal tar nandroid backup, even tho its a tar.gz backup.
Thanks alot

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sd backup or pocket backup s/w ???

are these the same or different - can anyone advise which is the best
can you restore on a file by file basis or only a complete image restore??
well the pocketpc backup if i understand correctly what you mean
then thats backing up to the internal flash of the xda
this size is limited
but the sdbackup is limited only by the size of the sdcard
and with sdbackup you can also backup the ROM of your xda
MrBatch said:
are these the same or different - can anyone advise which is the best
can you restore on a file by file basis or only a complete image restore??
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SD Backup backs up/restore the complete image, while Pocket Backup will do both complete and file by by file. Go with Pocket Backup it the best by far and is what I use.
HTH
guys - thank you - pocket backup sounds best if file by file
thanks again

Backups [Noob Question]

ive read in the other threads that we should be doing backup when flashing kernels.
how important is it to backup for just flashing a kernel? is it even worth it? Im gonna be flashing Siyah Kernel
I heard nandroid only backups phone settings? did i understand it correctly?
Is it better to root first before doing backup? or should I unroot my phone first?
Please tell me if I got it right
Titanium = app backup?
cwm = nandroid backup?
a bit offtopic but does anyone experience battery drainage when connected to wi-fi even when not doing anything like surfing etc.?
anthony001 said:
ive read in the other threads that we should be doing backup when flashing kernels.
how important is it to backup for just flashing a kernel? is it even worth it? Im gonna be flashing Siyah Kernel
Your choice but a reasonably recent backup should be ok .
I heard nandroid only backups phone settings? did i understand it correctly?
NO it backs up all bar EFS and Modem .
Is it better to root first before doing backup? or should I unroot my phone first?
Not relevant as you cannot backup without root.
Please tell me if I got it right
Titanium = app backup?
YES
cwm = nandroid backup?
And more
jje
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anthony001 said:
ive read in the other threads that we should be doing backup when flashing kernels.
how important is it to backup for just flashing a kernel? is it even worth it? Im gonna be flashing Siyah Kernel
I heard nandroid only backups phone settings? did i understand it correctly?
Is it better to root first before doing backup? or should I unroot my phone first?
Please tell me if I got it right
Titanium = app backup?
cwm = nandroid backup?
a bit offtopic but does anyone experience battery drainage when connected to wi-fi even when not doing anything like surfing etc.?
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Nandroid backup makes images of yours phone partitions and saves them into separated files. Truly, I never needed to restore any backup, You doing this only for a precaution measures.
Titanium Backup stores only your .apk, their data and settings. Nandroid saves all and put it into safe place (including whole system).
It's good to have both of backups, but TB can also extract .apk from nandroid backup. In this case nandroid backup is much better.
OT: WiFi always draining your battery because of notification wakelocks and working antenna. Set your phone into energy saving mode, it should help.
SirKunon said:
Nandroid backup makes images of yours phone partitions and saves them into separated files. Truly, I never needed to restore any backup, You doing this only for a precaution measures.
Titanium Backup stores only your .apk, their data and settings. Nandroid saves all and put it into safe place (including whole system).
It's good to have both of backups, but TB can also extract .apk from nandroid backup. In this case nandroid backup is much better.
OT: WiFi always draining your battery because of notification wakelocks and working antenna. Set your phone into energy saving mode, it should help.
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really nandroid backups even apk? so lets say i have dino wars installed and fpse so will it also backup those? what about the saves will it also backup the saves? also when using fpse we have a file used to play games which i think is forbidden to write its name will it be backed up too?
anthony001 said:
really nandroid backups even apk? so lets say i have dino wars installed and fpse so will it also backup those? what about the saves will it also backup the saves? also when using fpse we have a file used to play games which i think is forbidden to write its name will it be backed up too?
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Everything in internal partitions system layout and .android secure partition on sdcard... just all you have got actually on your phones internal (system memory). Full backup including kernel, modem, system, apps and their data (saves, settings, etc.)
Of course if game save are stored in internal or external sd-card than its will NOT been stored into nandroid backup, but it remain on those sdcard(s) even after nandroid restore. Only formatting sdcard will remove those saves, data, etc. (also full factory reset with service code formats all phones partition including internal sccard).
If you know what a windows image backup then this works the same restores all .
But EFS and Modem .
Nandroid backup full working phone 10-am
Flash JB xxxx rom and it fails or dont like it .
Restore to 10-am full working phone Nandroid backup .
Modem and EFS stay on the phone the same .
Useful very i have done five Nandroid restores already to day after test modifications .
I also have copy of TB and Nandroid backups on PC just in case .
jje
Important thing is to restore backup on the same recovery (cwm) on which backup was make. If partition layout has changed after nandbacup you also cant restore it, phone will stuck on bootlogo.
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[Q] Extracting CWM6 Backups

Hello, while I was using my phone it rebooted and aparrently someting from my /data got corupted disabling my Rom from booting ever again.
So I created a nandroid via CWM6, installed a new rom and I'm now scratching my head on how to extract certain apps from that backup. Using CWM5 I could do this via the use of Titanium Backup, but now it's more complex than that CWM6 nandroids are unreadable from anything that exists out there. The only app which could analyze the backup correctly was the latest beta of "app extractor" but even that could not extract the apks *with* their data.
Basically my apps' data is precious and I wish to restore it at all costs, I have a nandroid of them, but the format is so unspeakably complex that it is basically useless. So the other "solution" was restore the nandroid and pull the whole /data partition in my PC via ADB, but I'm not sure what I can do with it.
So as it stands I now have two copies of my apps, one in a nandroid format another as it was pulled from the phone but I'm not sure how I can go on and restore them in a new rom. As I have found out CWM6 was quite a downgrade for/to those who backup/recover frequently, it's sad that I have found about it in such a disastrous way

How to do a NAND Stock backup??

Hi! I have a Leeco Le Max 2 X829, and as there aren´t any official stock ROM I wanna save a 100% stock Backup of my X829 with 16S USA ROM. I mean ROM + Recovery, just as it is unpacked(without downloaded Apps and my data).
Could I make it booting in temporaly TWRP with fastboot and doing NAND backup choosing:
- Boot
- Recovery
- System
- Data...
Any other option? All options that TWRP show? thanks!
Yes. EFS too
Turn on phone with power+volume keys.
Fastboot boot TWRP.img
unrafa said:
Yes. EFS too
Turn on phone with power+volume keys.
Fastboot boot TWRP.img
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Then must I choose all options in TWRP backup?
One more thing... I Will be in a booted Recovery, so original Recovery is going to be still, then the one saved in the backup Will be the booted one ore the stock one? Thanks!
If you just want a factory setup without your apps and data I would say just backup the system image in twrp, backing up data definitely uncheck .
Only system is bit to less...
I would keep the us version.
eUI is not that bad and until we all get the update to android 7 ... it s probably the best and most stable rom running.
Why change it, when the other opportunities are leading to an less smooth running phone ?
To me all the cooked roms have disadvantages.
I need to have a fully working phone/ camera /fingerprint sensor...
without option to go back to the US rom I wouldn't change a thing!
castuis said:
If you just want a factory setup without your apps and data I would say just backup the system image in twrp, backing up data definitely uncheck .
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Mmm, then all options least Data? Thanks!
Don't listen to them. Back up everything. Who cares about a few space? Besides data is probably empty or with a few stock tools. Just backup all for your complete image. EFS contains IMEI and other stuff. It is important to have it. You can Back up everything, and then move it to a computer or somewhere else
It will have stock recovery backed up to TWRP and it's better if you backup as image, that way it saves the partition structures too.
Only first backup as image,to have perfect copy, the next backups you do is better do them as normal backups compressed (not image).
unrafa said:
Don't listen to them. Back up everything. Who cares about a few space? Besides data is probably empty or with a few stock tools. Just backup all for your complete image. EFS contains IMEI and other stuff. It is important to have it. You can Back up everything, and then move it to a computer or somewhere else
It will have stock recovery backed up to TWRP and it's better if you backup as image, that way it saves the partition structures too.
Only first backup as image,to have perfect copy, the next backups you do is better do them as normal backups compressed (not image).
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Hi, I have done and it made a lot of .win archives, is that right? thanks
Yes those are md5 or Sha sums, drag the whole TWRP folder to computer and you are good to go, don't change any name of any folder inside TWRP folder or TWRP will never detect that backup.
I don't know why but once I copied all except 73shf38 folder, and it turned out that folder with those numbers matter, and I couldn't restore without the exact name

Backup using TWRP.

For my nandroid backup I use TWRP(Recovery Mode). Should I take full backup or compressed one? And compressed backup doesnt work properly after restoring. Need help.
Compressed backup saves your space...
Both the compressed and normal backup should work without any problem

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