Some info &/help regarding HW/HW+ decoders in MX Player - Xperia Tablet Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
I'm after some info &/help with using the HW & HW+ decoder in MX Player. I have been trying some mkv video files of anime series I have on my PC. and while some will let me use the HW decoders other won't. More specifically the files which would use HW & HW+ were videos of older shows with 480p resolution while the ones that don't are 720p though play absolutely fine with the SW decoder.
I have the correct codec installed for the tablet and after trying to use Google to find some answers I've hit a roadblock. Is there more I can do to make the 720p files use the HW/HW+ decoder? Would it be a bad thing to just use the SW decoder for those files or does the other two have a benefit to using them (e.g. battery life?).
I have tried searching through the forums but I couldn't find anything that seemed related to my issue. Any help would be much appreciated.
Just in case it is needed information I currently have the latest stock update for the Tablet Z. Only just got it this past Christmas which is why I am a little late to the party.

Being that the processor is somewhat outdated I wouldn't count on having hardware decoding with those new 10 bit encodings that are all the rage in the Anime scene also I don't think it could decode h. 265 being something a bit new u could always try to stream it using something in the fly like universal media server

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moboplayer setup

I installed moboplayer and thought when it started up that it would tell me which codec to install. Well it didn't so I installed the arm v7 neon, which doesn't seem to work because mobo still wants to use software decoding, which leaves something to be desired. Any got an idea how to get the hardware decoding to work with mono?
Im having the same issue. I tried to play different formats and it seems that it depends more on the resolution than on the codec. I was able to play an non hd xvid movie in avi container just fine, while a 720p mp4 from youtube would only play with soft decoding and very slow.
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Wrong... It's based both on format (mp4) and resolution. Chisleu had a thread a bit back as well as Dalingrin with the specific setup for videos to play with hardware acceleration.
Anything other than specifically encoded mp4's and you're going to be able to only play the videos in software decoding.

Temporary Hd playback

I have gotten HD playback on my G tablet Honeycomb using Flashback 7.1 overclocked to 1.4 ghz
I got it working by downloading MX video player and its codecs to play videos
I downloaded a bunch of 720p movie trailers, the ones I tried for the youtube video (I'll upload tomorrow, phone is dead) were Avatar (2009) and The Darkest Hour (2011).
Now I know stock g tablet 2.2 can play 1080p hd videos, but the fact is, even if you can play the 1080p movie on the g tablet, that doesn't mean it will have 1080x1920 pixels on the g tablet, it will downscale the 1080p video into the maximum resolution on the g tablet that is 1024x600. That means that it also scales 720p videos. So in reality, its not even worth trying to play 1080p videos on the g tablet.
But as far as playing the video, its acceptable, there is a little choppiness that you can see here and there.
My testing from last Sunday, as well as Edirector's tests in teh Illuminate thread did show that it was possible to play HD video downloaded from Youtube usign software decoding. I tested with Flashback and could play everything he was playing, including the Bluray ruality rips he kept talking about.
What I was able to show was that hardware decoding was still not possible on HC roms, meaning that hardware acceleration was not working, and can not work unless drivers are obtained.
I went back to Calk/Clem Froyo rom and am able to play videos using hardware decoding. the quality is a "bit' better, but nothing to write home about. The difference come when viewing on the TV via the dock. Hardware decoding does improve the picture.
Any rom, with the right video applications can view videos using software decoding. Oveclocking isn't even necessarily needed to do so.
This was why at the conclusion of my testing, I questioned the need for hardware acceleration at all. If the HC and GB roms can watch HD video using software decoding, and the difference with the hardware decoding on Froyo roms is minimal, then why is hardware acceleration the deciding factor when going to an HC rom? For me, personally, it's because I use the dock. Hell, my famly just watched 3 movies today on the TV through the dock...
I just need to find a video player that supports AC3 audio in hardwae decoding mode.
Battery Life
Two main reasons to choose Froyo over GB or HC for the hardware acceleration are that with the HDMI cable and dock if the video isn't hardware accelerated, it looks crappy on the TV. Also, and more importantly, is BATTERY LIFE! Hardware accelerated decoding uses MUCH less battery. So if you were on an intercontinental flight like I was last month, you can hardware decode 4 movies and still have about 35% battery, where as you might be able to squeeze out 2.5 movies using software decoding. To each there own...but I bought the Gtab to watch videos mostly, so I want to use the hardware optimized for it.
TJEvans said:
I just need to find a video player that supports AC3 audio in hardwae decoding mode.
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Heck yes! That's the one thing that burns me up...how the Tegra 2 doesn't decode AC3. We need a video player that will hardware decode the video stream, but software decode the audio. Shouldn't be to hard to do right?

Video Player for Rezound with HW decode?

Hi all,
So I got my Rezound a couple days ago and its awesome so far. I am trying to utilize this ridiculous screen by playing 720p video but having some problems getting smoother playback.
I have MKV files with h.264 encoding using Normal Profile but the Rezound doesn't seem to come with a native player for mkv files. So, I went and downloaded MX Video Player. MX can play the file but occasionally gets the stutters. I noticed that MX says that the HW is not supported for HW decode so I am wondering if there are any video players with Rezound HW decode support. Tried also both of the Mobo players, mvideoplayer, and Act 1 with no luck either.
Also looking for specifics about how others are encoding HD files for smooth playback on the Rezound. What format, codecs (audio and video), and what app you are using to encode the files.
Appreciate the help!
i am pretty sure rockplayer supports hardware decoding.
I have been using Vplayer. Not sure if it supports the format you use but it works great with all my Divx movies
Chris
Moboplayer should work.
Read on some other forums/posts and am trying DicePlayer now. Seems to work perfectly for all my media so far.

Cyanogen HW video decode

Hi there!
When I try to play 720p, 1080p and other resource-intensive videos (software mode for them very laggy) - there is only black screen in MX video player and BSPlayer.
I have tried cyan alpha 3, alpha 3.5, last xronified versions - still no luck.
As of what i have read - hw video decoder is broken when SoD fixed in kernel.
Logcat is here - pastebin . com / r23jkQzP
Maybe developers can look to this and fix this problem? Cyanogen is much better than WebOS, the only serious problem is that I need to reboot to WebOS to play HighDef videos. If I can help to fix it by any way - I'm ready to help.
I have insufficient posts to post directly in develoment forums, so doing this in general.
What type of video are you playing? Videos are playing pretty damn well for me using Mx Video Player. The videos that are hardware decoded in Mx Video Player are flawless and the software decoding does a pretty good job as well. Take for example this torture test video:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9502388/Planet.Earth.720p.Sample.mkv
High Class h.264 @ L5.1 720p mkv file with 6 channel AC-3 audio. Pretty much the toughest 720P file to play that I have seen. With Software decoding, MX Video Player flawlessly plays it up until the bird scene when the bitrate spikes up over 21000Kbps.
Not bad for an alpha release. . .

MKV playback issues

Hey guys, just got a few 720p high profile mkv files which reviews claimed could be played with the stock video player. All 3 files currently do not. Dice player works in trial but when i try to buy it gives me not found in the market. I'd rather usethe built in player personally but has anyone else had any luck either way?
EDIT solved with bs player
Try moboplayer its free.
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or MXPlayer I have used that on many MKVs
compuw22c said:
Hey guys, just got a few 720p high profile mkv files which reviews claimed could be played with the stock video player. All 3 files currently do not. Dice player works in trial but when i try to buy it gives me not found in the market. I'd rather usethe built in player personally but has anyone else had any luck either way?
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I got same problem,but i used mx player and upnp , works flawless
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erick0423 said:
I got same problem,but i used mx player and upnp , works flawless
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I use the exact same
mx player works well but there's no hardware decoding available in any of them. Very disappointed ( though I know the hardware is capable of it). I know anandtech? Or one of the reviews did a blu ray rip and it played great so I'm guessing I'm missing something, an update broke it or if will be fixed in ics. Is also possible they just need hardware drivers for tegra3. I'm optimistic, is launch week, well have awesome devs, it'll get sorted eventually. Even software decode stutters just a bit ( I'm a video perfectionist). Also peeved at xda app FCs but again, brand new device. Just let me know if anyone (particularly those who didn't update) has any better luck.
Unbelievable , this still not resolved after the Tegra 2 debacle.
i've played a couple mkv's just fine with the stock player and mx player. the only issue i've had with them is if i skip around, the video never picks back up, works fine in software though.
but if i just watch the movie through without skipping around, it plays perfectly.
as you can see here ICS has added support to the Matroska format, so hopefully the default player will be handling it smoothly in ICS.
hXXp://briefmobile.com/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-announced-feature-list
replace hXXp with http in link.
That's good to know. Was thinking of cancelling my preorder once I heard people having problems with mkv's & diceplayer being unavailable
compuw22c said:
mx player works well but there's no hardware decoding available in any of them. Very disappointed ( though I know the hardware is capable of it). I know anandtech? Or one of the reviews did a blu ray rip and it played great so I'm guessing I'm missing something, an update broke it or if will be fixed in ics. Is also possible they just need hardware drivers for tegra3. I'm optimistic, is launch week, well have awesome devs, it'll get sorted eventually. Even software decode stutters just a bit ( I'm a video perfectionist). Also peeved at xda app FCs but again, brand new device. Just let me know if anyone (particularly those who didn't update) has any better luck.
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How were these files encoded? Because in order to take advantage of hardware decoding a file has to meet a certain standard. If it deviates even a tiny bit, it will not work.
Go and Download BSPlayer lite from the market. It has the same funtionality like Diceplayer. Tegra 3 can nearly play all 1080p vids.
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How were these files encoded? Because in order to take advantage of hardware decoding a file has to meet a certain standard. If it deviates even a tiny bit, it will not work.
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Well its h264 high profile, which tegra 3 plays. Tegra 3 isn't picky, as long as its less than a 42mbps bitrate the hardware will handle it. The only standard it must meet is 1080p and less and 42mbps or less in h264 anyways. For tegra 3, i'm sure software is the issue.
Files came from my media server which are also hw accelerated with an nvidia graphics card via vdpau. never even have to check, just always plays (h264 anyways)
Again, i'm sure they'll fix it eventually,I know the chip does it, still annoying., its why I never bought tegra 2. And for those suggesting software decode, battery life PLUMMETS and the performance we would have with hw decode would be as good or better than blu ray with no stutter.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/5
EDIT:BS player appears to work WITH hardware acceleration. Every other app told me "not supported by system player, using software device" including dice
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Prime will handle highprofile mkv just fine if you use a other media player like mxplayer, diceplayer The problem when you can't play with the stock player is that it for the most times can't handle the audio.
Just give them some time to update there players to full Tegra3 support. The device have only been out some days and I think the developers also would like to have a device to test on.
I have posted this in a other thread, but I will repost it here to. From swedroid.se test, and translated into English.
"As is the case for the music player, Asus do net onclude their own video players, but instead uses default player that comes with Android. This is a rather rowdy players who only manages one of our clip in the table below (# 9), but without any sound, because support for AC3 missing."
"The third-party video player dice player or MX Video Player, both of which are available in the Android Market, it is however full marks. ASUS Prime plays everything we feed it with, whether it is DivX, XviD or MKV / h (x) 264-films with soundtracks in DTS or AC3 format."
Resolution / Codec / Profile / Container / Bitrate / Audio / Results (MX Video Player
640x352 XviD / [email protected] / AVI 1 Mbit/s MP3 2.0 OK
576x320 XviD / [email protected] / AVI 1,4 Mbit/s MP3 2.0 OK
720p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 3 Mbit/s AC-3 5.1 OK
720p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 9 Mbit/s AC3 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 14 Mbit/s DTS 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 19,2 Mbit/s AC3 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 22,8 Mbit/s DTS 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 25 Mbit/s DTS 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 30 Mbit/s AC3 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 42 Mbit/s AC3 5.1 OK
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@OP
Have you tried a straight MP4 (H264/AAC) with standard Android player? You do realize that it's not just the video track that kicks the (3rd-party) player into HW or SW mode, right? Subtitles, for instance, will invoke SW mode. Chapter tracks will also probably cause SW.
As much as you sound you know, then you should also know that not every downloaded video is the same. If you have problems, SOP is first to provide specs (MediaInfo works), second is to provide a sample, third is to specify environment (which player you've tried, and their respective performance). Only noobs go "my vids don't work, now what?"
With the non-info you've provided, all you get is guesswork.
What do you mean by " files came from a media server"? If you are streaming to the device, expect skipping playback because WiFi can't handle hi-bitrate 1080p.
I have no issues running 720p or 1080p hi profile (locally) on my Transformer Prime in Dice player, even with DTS and multiple audio tracks.
people need to realise 3rd party players need to be optimised for tegra 3 for hardware acceleration. its not to do with type of file, as long as it does not have very high bitrate.
Everyone has to understand, that MKV is just a container. You can put almost anything into this container so therefore it is unlikely that the hardware can decode everything that can go into a MKV container.
The main thing about the Kal-El SoC, it is the first chip that can decode h.264 High Profile video. To see the supported codecs that Tegra 3 can decode in hardware see: http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-superchip.html
I've ripped hundreds of blu-rays. I've ended up using two sets of files.
Archive for playback on Samsung LED TV's and other high end DLNA devices:
Container: MKV
Video: H.264 High Profile 4.0 Constant Quality 18-20 1080p
Audio: AAC-LC 384 5.1 channel
Subtitles: sub format
Software: HD Decrypter, RipBot264 and Handbrake
Mobile Devices:
Container: m4v
Video: H.264 Base 3.0 Profile, 2-pass (1000kbps widescreen and 1200kbps for 16x9) qHD size (960x540),
Audio: AAC-LC 128 2 channel
Subtitles: Converted from the MKV
Software: Handbrake
I spend most of the time make the archive format looking as good as possible for it's size. Most files come out to 4-7GB per movie. There are exceptions depending on the quality of the movie. Movies with lots of noise in them come out to be much larger then one that is very clean. Computer Generated movies will come out to 3-4GB using CQ 18. The Prime should decode these just fine.
The mobile size I use for under powered devices and also to have as many movies as possible for it's size. qHD actually ends up looking very nice for it's size when down converted from blu-ray. A two hour movie comes out to be about 1GB. This way I can have on average 60-70 movies on 64B microsdxc card and about the same on the 64GB prime itself.
sorry, but I felt I provided all necessary info. The files are stored locally, mkv h264 high profile 20mbps streams with ac3 5.1 audio. They also have subtitles, though I don't need them.tpb was the source of all 3.
In any event, bs player works with hardware acceleration perfectly and I'm very happy. It also shows the hardware is fully capable of it, software will soon follow (ics)
compuw22c said:
sorry, but I felt I provided all necessary info. The files are stored locally, mkv h264 high profile 20mbps streams with ac3 5.1 audio. They also have subtitles, though I don't need them.tpb was the source of all 3.
In any event, bs player works with hardware acceleration perfectly and I'm very happy. It also shows the hardware is fully capable of it, software will soon follow (ics)
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According to the Tegra 3 specs, AC3 is not supported in hardware.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-superchip.html

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