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Tried talking to Samsung to find out why those of us never receive updates to our software. Besides their chat being a joke as usual this is what i got:
Melina: I understand that you want to know why developer edition Galaxy S4 does not get updates like normal S4 . Is that correct?
Visitor: yes
Melina: Thank you for confirming.
Melina: May I know the model number of the device? To know the model number of the device, please tap on Home>> Applications>> Settings>>More tab>> About Device/About phone. It generally starts with SCH or SGH or SPH or GT.
Visitor: sch-i545
Melina: Thank you for the model number.
Melina: May I know your device base band version? You can find it in Applications>>Settings>>About Device/ About Phone.
Visitor: i545oyuamdk
Melina: Thank you for the information.
Melina: May I place you on hold for 2 minutes, while I gather the information on your request?
Visitor: yes
Melina: Thank you.
Melina: Thank you for waiting. I appreciate your time and patience.
Melina: I should inform you that your device has an update to Android 4.3 Jelly Bean through OTA( Over The Air) . OTA updates are pushed by the carrier. You need to contact your carrier and request them to push the update on your device.
Melina: You can contact Verizon support at 1-888-466-4646.
Click here to reach them online.
Melina: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/faq/FAQ00053701/63350/SCH-I545ZKDVZW
Melina: Please click on the above link to view how to update your device to Android 4.3 and information about the update.
Melina: Are you able to open the above link?
Visitor: yes i realize that this has this update which is why i am asking why i do not recieve it. YOu also pushed out 2 other OTA updates prior to this that only the consumer edition galaxy s4 got, the developer edition does not ever get them. The link you sent is for the update all galaxy s4 should be receiving but as if stated, noone who owns a developer edition gets these.
Melina: I understand your concern.
Melina: I should inform you that OTA updates are released by the carrier and not by Samsung. They push the update in batches by selecting devices randomly. You can contact them and request to push the update.
Visitor: i have contacted verizon before in regards to the previous updates not being installed. THey have informed me that you, samsung, does not release any of these updates for the developer edition, the updates you give to verizon are only good for the consumer edition. SO yes my question still stands why are there no updates for this version of the phone. Im sorry if you do not have an answer for this question please direct me to someone who does
Melina: I'm sorry for the delay. I'll be right with you.
Melina: I am sorry for the delay.
Melina: I should inform you that Kies software updates are provided by Samsung and OTA updates are provided by carrier. However I should inform you that boot loader of developers edition devices are by default unlocked and these phones are meant to install third party software on their devices thus Samsusng does not specifically provide software update. I request you to contact our higher level of chat support to know more information about the same.
Melina: You can contact our voice support at 1-888-987-4357, Mon-Fri: 7 AM - 9 PM (CST), Sat: 9 AM - 6 PM (CST).
So yes essentially they are never going to update the dev edition galaxy s4 from the current build. And as we know installing the consumer edition software is no good for our phone. So glad i spent $650 on a phone that will never receive updates.
You have an unlocked bootloader, just install any custom rom. There will be a wave of 4.3 based roms soon/already.
MehStrongBadMeh said:
You have an unlocked bootloader, just install any custom rom. There will be a wave of 4.3 based roms soon/already.
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Absolutely...and I wouldn't be surprised if one shows up today.
MehStrongBadMeh said:
You have an unlocked bootloader, just install any custom rom. There will be a wave of 4.3 based roms soon/already.
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That is not a stock software from Samsung. Yes it's nice to flash a rom, but if they had no intentions of updating the phone they should outline that before purchase. Why do you replace your phone over time? Because it becomes old and no longer recieves updated android. So by them selling a phone with no updates from the start, they are basically stating the device is EOL.
While true in the strictest sense, there really is no compelling reason to purchase the dev edition for anything but the unlocked bootloader. If all you were looking for was updated stock firmware, the three standard s4 is all that is needed. The dev s4 can effectively receive all the updates the standard s4 receives by using custom roms based on said updates. Also, the unlocked bootloader means you will be able to use custom roms of Android updates that are made long after Samsung ceases to make official updates for the device.
Samsung seems to always direct you back to the carrier (VZW) in this case. Irony is the the GPe version is not supported by the carrier but by Samsung/Google. Although google does not post the binaries either of the device. Since our device is locked to VZW I would bug Big Red for all its worth.
My 2 cents
MehStrongBadMeh said:
While true in the strictest sense, there really is no compelling reason to purchase the dev edition for anything but the unlocked bootloader. If all you were looking for was updated stock firmware, the three standard s4 is all that is needed. The dev s4 can effectively receive all the updates the standard s4 receives by using custom roms based on said updates. Also, the unlocked bootloader means you will be able to use custom roms of Android updates that are made long after Samsung ceases to make official updates for the device.
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This.
If you're going to buy the dev edition and you're not even a developer, then you bought it to run custom roms. You shouldn't care about if they update the stock firmware.
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joshm.1219 said:
This.
If you're going to buy the dev edition and you're not even a developer, then you bought it to run custom roms. You shouldn't care about if they update the stock firmware.
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You are correct, sir!
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Personally, I agree with both sides. In one case, you have an unlocked bootloader for a reason.
I believe you dealt with an uninformed agent in that chat, as she was just reading from a script, you could tell with the whole "can I confirm you are" blah blah. Try getting on the phone and dealing with a live American rep.
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joshm.1219 said:
This.
If you're going to buy the dev edition and you're not even a developer, then you bought it to run custom roms. You shouldn't care about if they update the stock firmware.
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I agree however i bought the dev edition solely for the fact i can customize it, and then run custom roms once i get bored of stock. Like any phone. However this leaves anyone with this phone no choice but to run custom roms for any updated software. It really doesn't matter what i wanted from the phone, or anyone else wanted, its solely the fact Samsung sold a phone with no intentions of supporting it beyond release. I can say that everyone who bought the standard gs4 should never have expected to run a custom rom and just be happy with stock as well, because thats exactly what the standard edition is made for. But we both know thats not true for the majority of people owning it. Samsungs selling point for the Dev edition is the choice to do what you want with it, by not supporting it they aren't giving you a choice to keep it stock (even though they give you no firmware image to get back to stock if you mess it up.) So yes i am right in saying they messed up big time with the Dev edition.
I have a conflicting view. I wouldnt personally want my developer edition phone to recieve updates, id rather want complete control over what is flashed to my device and I know I can just build a stock rom for the dev device from the consumer ed. updates. However not all people know how to build their own roms, know which partitions to ignore/modify/flash or know how to make it all come together and work. I think the issue is that there aren't many developers with dev s4's. Its possible to make odin images for all the corresponding consumer update builds. Dev edition devices are only limited by the ability and knowledge of their owners. Consumer devices dont get that luxary.
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Surge1223 said:
I have a conflicting view. I wouldnt personally want my developer edition phone to recieve updates, id rather want complete control over what is flashed to my device and I know I can just build a stock rom for the dev device from the consumer ed. updates. However not all people know how to build their own roms, know which partitions to ignore/modify/flash or know how to make it all come together and work. I think the issue is that there aren't many developers with dev s4's. Its possible to make odin images for all the corresponding consumer update builds. Dev edition devices are only limited by the ability and knowledge of their owners. Consumer devices dont get that luxary.
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I agree with that surge, the problem being like you said, those of us with limited development skillset cannot build the rom. guess I have something to learn
The other is brickability. Since the dev ed is more brickable without a true factory image to recover its a catch 22. Unlike the GPe there isn't any way to unlock the bootloader if it should become relocked.
my 2 cents
oakley470 said:
I agree however i bought the dev edition solely for the fact i can customize it, and then run custom roms once i get bored of stock. Like any phone. However this leaves anyone with this phone no choice but to run custom roms for any updated software. It really doesn't matter what i wanted from the phone, or anyone else wanted, its solely the fact Samsung sold a phone with no intentions of supporting it beyond release. I can say that everyone who bought the standard gs4 should never have expected to run a custom rom and just be happy with stock as well, because thats exactly what the standard edition is made for. But we both know thats not true for the majority of people owning it. Samsungs selling point for the Dev edition is the choice to do what you want with it, by not supporting it they aren't giving you a choice to keep it stock (even though they give you no firmware image to get back to stock if you mess it up.) So yes i am right in saying they messed up big time with the Dev edition.
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Well, just playing devil's advocate, you would think that the purpose of a developer edition is to have custom software on it. I agree with what you said about the expectations of someone who buys a stock phone of course, but it's obviously not true the majority of people owning a stock phone want custom software. I don't know if you meant to type it like that but I can assure you most people who buy the s4 in the world run normal Touchwiz and have no idea about ROM's, bootloaders, android versions, etc. I can make assumptions too about Samsung's selling point for the Dev Edition, but the only differentiating factor is an unlocked bootloader. The purpose of that is to run custom software, thus the purpose of the Dev Edition. Also, they might just assume the developers these devices are really meant for know how tobuild updated stock rom's if they wanted to. I understand your frustration in that it wasn't upfront information before you purchased it.
Buy a Dev phone with no knowledge of building ROMs and then complain about updates not being released for a phone built for ROM development purposes? Not sure why this is even an issue.
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chriskader said:
Buy a Dev phone with no knowledge of building ROMs and then complain about updates not being released for a phone built for ROM development purposes? Not sure why this is even an issue.
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Not sure why you felt the need to post? The complaint is valid for many with a dev edition, everyone was wondering why they don't receive the updates, I have now answered that.
Even if we didn't get otas it would be nice if they released an Odin flashable factory image for when we screw our phones up.
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Knowing how to make your own ROM's has nothing to do with owning a Dev edition phone. If you had to buy the phone at retail price anyways, the Dev edition is a better choice, so I'm sure a lot of people did that. Even if they never planned to put custom ROM's on it.
Also to add, firmware updates come with security fixes, and radio updates to better connect to the carriers network (AWS support..). If they can sell a phone that connects to Verizon, they should update it the same as Verizon does with consumer version.
Schoat333 said:
Knowing how to make your own ROM's has nothing to do with owning a Dev edition phone. If you had to buy the phone at retail price anyways, the Dev edition is a better choice, so I'm sure a lot of people did that. Even if they never planned to put custom ROM's on it.
Also to add, firmware updates come with security fixes, and radio updates to better connect to the carriers network (AWS support..). If they can sell a phone that connects to Verizon, they should update it the same as Verizon does with consumer version.
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I agree although ROMing is the main activity with this phone other updates and software have nothing to do with the ROM. Since this is my first Dev Ed, I'm slightly disappointed.
I've tweeted with VZW to no avail but they seem to at least acknowledge the Dev Ed but don't have much info.
My 2 Cents
Schoat333 said:
Knowing how to make your own ROM's has nothing to do with owning a Dev edition phone. If you had to buy the phone at retail price anyways, the Dev edition is a better choice, so I'm sure a lot of people did that. Even if they never planned to put custom ROM's on it.
Also to add, firmware updates come with security fixes, and radio updates to better connect to the carriers network (AWS support..). If they can sell a phone that connects to Verizon, they should update it the same as Verizon does with consumer version.
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I agree. Dev edition phones are not just for running Roms. There is a reason that Stock images are put out there, so the those with Dev editions that do play around, have a way of getting back to a fresh restart. So a Dev edition is permanently locked on old software? That makes no sense. It should be up to Samsung to release the VZW 4.3 update for the Dev edition through Kies, not pushed, but offered. Those with Dev editions should have the ability to upgrade and still tinker, and given a the stock image to restart when necessary. It's why they shelled out the extra $.
I am admittedly shocked I haven't gotten the update yet. My wife got her update on her galaxy S5 about a week ago. I'm holding the mobile phone of the year abd I'm still waiting...what gives?
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It hasn't even been released or announced yet for that matter...
Everyone is waiting. However, Skydragon and Jasmine roms are available if you can't wait. They used the leaked LP builds and patched them to fix the crap Verizon is apparently still unable to figure out (otherwise they would have released by now).
I'm in the same boat. been lurking this forum to see if anyone got official OTA, disappointing...
Was running JasmineROM but switched to SkyDragon as I'm a huge fan of the developer. This rom legit has NO lag. I'm hoping battery life is gonna be a win too.
A few have gotten it, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't just me lol.
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Skydragon is great. The battery life is awesome. I cannot stand waiting on slow Verizon to update anything. Also I have to have root. Cannot stand a stock phone lol.
Decepticaons said:
A few have gotten it, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't just me lol.
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The 23B leak came from a replacement device.
Decepticaons said:
A few have gotten it, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't just me lol.
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Based on what has been released unofficially (23a and 23b), these are not "ready for prime time" use per the other threads.
No official announcement has been made as to when it will be released. Going to the official LG web site, you will see that currently, 12b is the latest official release.
Go here to see what the latest official release is:
http://www.lg.com/us/support/product-help/CT10000003-CT10000027-1414534794596
It tells you 12b is the latest release. So, not sure why you think the "few" who have received and update have received and official version because they haven't.
In both cases, it appears what they have received are possible private soak tests and for some reason, they got it pushed to their phone.
I believe in both cases, those were replacement phones. Could be those were refurbished phones that possibly registered to receive soak tests? I know when I had Motorola phones, I could register my phone (by IMEI number) and I could receive soak test builds. That might be what happened here in those two cases, but I don't know how LG does their private testing.
In any case, 12b is the only official latest build. 23a and 23b are NOT official builds. So, until we hear an announcement that LG/Verizon are ready to release the LP build, 12b is it for official.
And probably a good reason that they haven't released something yet. too many unresolved bugs I would suppose. At this point with the G4 on the horizon soon, I wish LG would push the 5.1 version and let verizon release that for the G3. Seems too many bugs on what has come so far.
iBolski said:
Based on what has been released unofficially (23a and 23b), these are not "ready for prime time" use per the other threads.
No official announcement has been made as to when it will be released. Going to the official LG web site, you will see that currently, 12b is the latest official release.
Go here to see what the latest official release is:
http://www.lg.com/us/support/product-help/CT10000003-CT10000027-1414534794596
It tells you 12b is the latest release. So, not sure why you think the "few" who have received and update have received and official version because they haven't.
In both cases, it appears what they have received are possible private soak tests and for some reason, they got it pushed to their phone.
I believe in both cases, those were replacement phones. Could be those were refurbished phones that possibly registered to receive soak tests? I know when I had Motorola phones, I could register my phone (by IMEI number) and I could receive soak test builds. That might be what happened here in those two cases, but I don't know how LG does their private testing.
In any case, 12b is the only official latest build. 23a and 23b are NOT official builds. So, until we hear an announcement that LG/Verizon are ready to release the LP build, 12b is it for official.
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Was going based on info posted when I searched. While I do appreciate the info you shared, the tone in which your reply was written was completely uncalled for.
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Decepticaons said:
Was going based on info posted when I searched. While I do appreciate the info you shared, the tone in which your reply was written was completely uncalled for.
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I didn't detect any malice in his post. He was stating facts to quickly put to rest the question of if there's a "real" Lollipop release for the G3 that is pushing out. Best to put questions like that to rest as quickly as possible rather than let them drag out over weeks of "me too" posts.
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Was going based on info posted when I searched. While I do appreciate the info you shared, the tone in which your reply was written was completely uncalled for.
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Huh? Tone? I meant nothing disparaging about it. Sorry if I came across that way. I think you read something into my "tone" that wasn't there.
I was just trying to point you to information that shows that the only official release is currently 12b.
Sorry if you took it as me berating you as that was not my intent nor was I even thinking that when I posted a reply. Just trying to provide you with some helpful information. :good:
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Huh? Tone? I meant nothing disparaging about it. Sorry if I came across that way. I think you read something into my "tone" that wasn't there.
I was just trying to point you to information that shows that the only official release is currently 12b.
Sorry if you took it as me berating you as that was not my intent nor was I even thinking that when I posted a reply. Just trying to provide you with some helpful information. :good:
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I think maybe something was lost in translation. My bad [emoji1]
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Info varies, but last i heard the Lollipop upgrade was coming in late march. Its approaching and will pass within 2 weeks. My question is how are RUUs released? Can we expect it to be available around the same time the ota surfaces?
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"Finally the original HTC One Mini, Desire 610, Desire 820s and Desire 510 should get Android 5.0 in either March or April."
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I am also sick of all that waiting but there is nothing we can do right now.
Nixing said:
I am also sick of all that waiting but there is nothing we can do right now.
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Well now im wondering if it were to come tomorrow, should i update?
We can have s-off for a fee but i noticed on the sunshine thread people were waiting to use it because they updated. Im not sure its worth the 25 bucks for me but also dont want to update then possibly regret it...
Right now im just searching for more info. Not even sure i need to return to stock to run sunshine but after trying the installer i now know i need to uninstall xposed.
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Well now im wondering if it were to come tomorrow, should i update?
We can have s-off for a fee but i noticed on the sunshine thread people were waiting to use it because they updated. Im not sure its worth the 25 bucks for me but also dont want to update then possibly regret it...
Right now im just searching for more info. Not even sure i need to return to stock to run sunshine but after trying the installer i now know i need to uninstall xposed.
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I already own HTC One M7 and I have CM12 on it.
My Desire 610 will be stock and that's that. I don't care about anything, just need that Lollipop update.
Also I think that the release won't be this month. Probably the end of April but it's only my assumption.
Hopefully it's wrong.
Nixing said:
I already own HTC One M7 and I have CM12 on it.
My Desire 610 will be stock and that's that. I don't care about anything, just need that Lollipop update.
Also I think that the release won't be this month. Probably the end of April but it's only my assumption.
Hopefully it's wrong.
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Wouldnt surprise me. Originally sources stated the 3rd quarter of 2015 then someone here said march, and when i checked that was also true???
As far as s-off...im on the fence. Having it doesnt mean instant development of custom roms. This phone's coming up on a year and i get the feeling that ship has sailed. Essentially looks like itll be stock anyways. I only get the red message when booting to recovery so $25 isnt justifiable. But im hoping to have a reason to get it soon...
Well they missed the target with lollipop in march and now we're approaching mid April...of course this isn't news to most all of you but when I go to HTC ROM downloads site I see that ruu hasn't changed in a long time. Anyone know how that works? Do they only release certain updates in ruu format?
I'm just wondering if they'll put it on the site in a timely fashion or if I'm better off locking it up again and unrooting to take the ota...
I dont think we will have lollipop on this device, the infos about it are not official.
anyway correct me if im wrong
porozex said:
I dont think we will have lollipop on this device, the infos about it are not official.
anyway correct me if im wrong
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We would sooner get 4.4.4. Lollipop is just a fantasy on this device unless someone builds it for us.
http://htcsource.com/2015/01/leaked-document-reveals-htcs-lollipop-update-roadmap/
This is Not the particular article I read but if I find it I'll post it. Seems the device is more than capable of running it. I don't understand the business aspect entirely but I think since its still a relatively new phone they'd want to push the latest os.
Edit--most definitely right in assuming we won't be getting it soon. I remember reading awhile back 610 would be getting it in the 3rd quarter (probably early fall?) But then someone posted a "leak" here saying march or April the latest. Of course I was willing to believe. Now I see a schedule that puts us in what looks like the 4th quarter! Who knows...I think we'll get lollipop, I'm just not certain I'll still be using this phone when we do.
HTC usa and HTC uk confirmed on chat that this device will get lollipop update but no eta for now
porozex said:
HTC usa and HTC uk confirmed on chat that this device will get lollipop update but no eta for now
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I think that leaked schedule online is accurate (which means I may not be using lollipop) I can't justify buying it now but I'm considering an s4 from swappa. Its not a definite but if lollipop doesn't come till around Xmas...that's a long time to wait. By that time other users might be anticipating the next OS!
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HTC usa and HTC uk confirmed on chat that this device will get lollipop update but no eta for now
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I agree this device will see Lollipop,This device can handle Lollipop without any problems.It's a new device that came out last year.
It should be out within the end of the month or even next month.
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HTC usa and HTC uk confirmed on chat that this device will get lollipop update but no eta for now
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Can you tell us where you heard that? Thread last night said an HTC rep said no lollipop for 610.
A guy on another forum asked them and they said yes
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow/ don't see the Z3v in the short list.
Why not the Z3v too?
1linuxfreak said:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow/ don't see the Z3v in the short list.
Why not the Z3v too?
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If we can't even get lollipop, why on earth would you expect marshmallow? Not trying to be rude, I'm just trying to be realistic.
mrrodgersss said:
If we can't even get lollipop, why on earth would you expect marshmallow? Not trying to be rude, I'm just trying to be realistic.
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Agreed this 509 firmware is stagefright patched and was built like 5 weeks ago and its 5.0.2 I think this is all were getting and since the Z4v is no longer coming out I belive 5.0.2 is the end of the road for the Z3v. This 509 firmware is good though.
I can understand your frustration, but I wouldn't take it for 100% that Sony is intentionally excluding the Z3V... They will probably send the marshmallow firmware to Verizon, and because of that, we'll probably never receive it unless we get a lucky leak, but I doubt that because I don't think it'll even be a candidate for Internal Testing as I'm sure Verizon plans to push Lollipop, fulfill their year old promises, and be done with their EOL device.. so even if Sony does send them the firmware, Verizon is most likely going to sit on it until it's buried... But you have to think with articles like these, even if they are press statements from Sony, it's still likely that they could leave out the Z3V unintentionally because even though its a variant of the Z3, by saying the Z3 is getting the update, they could be collectively including the Z3V along with that... but either way, I agree that we'll most likely never get this update, and that sucks.... But I do think Verizon is going to give us the latest Lollipop for sure.... There's no reason not to jump it to 5.1.1 if Sony gave them the firmware, it's not a major update... I think they just wanted a solid Lollipop build in "testing" (an intentional leak out there to collect usage stats from people bold enough to flash it) with stagefright patches, etc to make sure they had a solid build before putting the finishing touches on the firmware. There is a different Kernel in the .509 version than the .485, as well as some other interesting differences that make me think they're gearing it for the latest Lolllipop... and really as long as we get that with working VOLTE.... I can be happy enough with that.
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I can understand your frustration, but I wouldn't take it for 100% that Sony is intentionally excluding the Z3V... They will probably send the marshmallow firmware to Verizon, and because of that, we'll probably never receive it unless we get a lucky leak, but I doubt that because I don't think it'll even be a candidate for Internal Testing as I'm sure Verizon plans to push Lollipop, fulfill their year old promises, and be done with their EOL device.. so even if Sony does send them the firmware, Verizon is most likely going to sit on it until it's buried... But you have to think with articles like these, even if they are press statements from Sony, it's still likely that they could leave out the Z3V unintentionally because even though its a variant of the Z3, by saying the Z3 is getting the update, they could be collectively including the Z3V along with that... but either way, I agree that we'll most likely never get this update, and that sucks.... But I do think Verizon is going to give us the latest Lollipop for sure.... There's no reason not to jump it to 5.1.1 if Sony gave them the firmware, it's not a major update... I think they just wanted a solid Lollipop build in "testing" (an intentional leak out there to collect usage stats from people bold enough to flash it) with stagefright patches, etc to make sure they had a solid build before putting the finishing touches on the firmware. There is a different Kernel in the .509 version than the .485, as well as some other interesting differences that make me think they're gearing it for the latest Lolllipop... and really as long as we get that with working VOLTE.... I can be happy enough with that.
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the thought did cross my mind that they would update 509 the rest of the way to 5.1.1 now that stagefright patch is out for z3 5.1.1 because it may be bad for business to have us on firmware we shouldn't have. I don't even care really Verizon made me sick with this shiit I guess I have to get a nexus phone next but I'm not doing that till they firgure out how to but an SD card in a phone. And thank you for your work and getting the ball rolling on Lollipop.
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the thought did cross my mind that they would update 509 the rest of the way to 5.1.1 now that stagefright patch is out for z3 5.1.1 because it may be bad for business to have us on firmware we shouldn't have. I don't even care really Verizon made me sick with this shiit I guess I have to get a nexus phone next but I'm not doing that till they firgure out how to but an SD card in a phone. And thank you for your work and getting the ball rolling on Lollipop.
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Thanks so much for the recognition. Somehow my leaked FTF of Lollipop was taken down, so I wasn't even sure if people still knew that I was the one that brought us that first Lollipop leak. I'm going to build us an amazing rom too.. I'm just waiting on Verizon to push their official build so that I won't be wasting my time building an outdated rom lol... U know like last time :/
zachariahpope said:
Thanks so much for the recognition. Somehow my leaked FTF of Lollipop was taken down, so I wasn't even sure if people still knew that I was the one that brought us that first Lollipop leak. I'm going to build us an amazing rom too.. I'm just waiting on Verizon to push their official build so that I won't be wasting my time building an outdated rom lol... U know like last time :/
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you know are phones should be pretty close to being able to be unlocked by Verizon I was looking on eBay and there are unlocked Z3V's I dont know if they kept the drm keys but anyway once they release the final version..and we get our bootloader unlocked then we can go crazy. (edit)Unless that's a carrier unlock Im not sure if that unlocks the bootloader or if their the same.
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I can understand your frustration, but I wouldn't take it for 100% that Sony is intentionally excluding the Z3V... They will probably send the marshmallow firmware to Verizon, and because of that, we'll probably never receive it unless we get a lucky leak, but I doubt that because I don't think it'll even be a candidate for Internal Testing as I'm sure Verizon plans to push Lollipop, fulfill their year old promises, and be done with their EOL device.. so even if Sony does send them the firmware, Verizon is most likely going to sit on it until it's buried... But you have to think with articles like these, even if they are press statements from Sony, it's still likely that they could leave out the Z3V unintentionally because even though its a variant of the Z3, by saying the Z3 is getting the update, they could be collectively including the Z3V along with that... but either way, I agree that we'll most likely never get this update, and that sucks.... But I do think Verizon is going to give us the latest Lollipop for sure.... There's no reason not to jump it to 5.1.1 if Sony gave them the firmware, it's not a major update... I think they just wanted a solid Lollipop build in "testing" (an intentional leak out there to collect usage stats from people bold enough to flash it) with stagefright patches, etc to make sure they had a solid build before putting the finishing touches on the firmware. There is a different Kernel in the .509 version than the .485, as well as some other interesting differences that make me think they're gearing it for the latest Lolllipop... and really as long as we get that with working VOLTE.... I can be happy enough with that.
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FWIW VoLTE is working, for me at least, on .509 so I think we're getting really close to the official release.
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FWIW VoLTE is working, for me at least, on .509 so I think we're getting really close to the official release.
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while your here are you rooted and have you deleted any system apps I'm curious...I know you had advanced calling before on your plan so that part makes sense.
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while your here are you rooted and have you deleted any system apps I'm curious...I know you had advanced calling before on your plan so that part makes sense.
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rooted yes, froze a few apps, mostly vzw with tibu but nothing deleted.
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Tigerhoods said:
you know are phones should be pretty close to being able to be unlocked by Verizon I was looking on eBay and there are unlocked Z3V's I dont know if they kept the drm keys but anyway once they release the final version..and we get our bootloader unlocked then we can go crazy. (edit)Unless that's a carrier unlock Im not sure if that unlocks the bootloader or if their the same.
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I think they mean carrier unlocked, which all vzw phones are now, since like the Galaxy S4. Boot loader and carrier unlock are two completely different things.
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If we can't even get lollipop, why on earth would you expect marshmallow? Not trying to be rude, I'm just trying to be realistic.
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my girlfriends droid turbo just received android 5.1 -
It was written on September 1st one day after ours was (509)-5.0.2 so maybe........ Soon or not it's Verizon.
http://phandroid.com/2015/10/07/sony-xperia-marshmallow-beta/ So the Z3 and Z3 compact are getting beta testing already.
Maybe leaked Marshmallow FTF for the Z3v soon.
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If we can't even get lollipop, why on earth would you expect marshmallow? Not trying to be rude, I'm just trying to be realistic.
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Just though all the kids on here would like to know that there is a 6.0 release over the 5.1.1, after all numbers mean so much on this forum.
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Didn't mean to kill the thunder of the leaked beta Lollipop.
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Just though all the kids on here would like to know that there is a 6.0 release over the 5.1.1, after all numbers mean so much on this forum.
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Didn't mean to kill the thunder of the leaked beta Lollipop.
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I wasn't trying to be rude either I have had this phone for almost a year since it first came out and have received no support for this phone at all I have spent literally hundreds of hours trying to fix this phone myself because verzions incompetence I'm not sure for the reason for the leak or how it happened but I doubt very much we will receive 6.0 and I don't really give a **** I would just like them to realease a Lollipop version so I can have a feature I was promised a year ago -advanced calling. Also quick charge 2.0 is a listed feature- it's not. Verizon = Liars. Look at the Z4v that's a disaster to.
Tigerhoods said:
I wasn't trying to be rude either I have had this phone for almost a year since it first came out and have received no support for this phone at all I have spent literally hundreds of hours trying to fix this phone myself because verzions incompetence I'm not sure for the reason for the leak or how it happened but I doubt very much we will receive 6.0 and I don't really give a **** I would just like them to realease a Lollipop version so I can have a feature I was promised a year ago -advanced calling. Also quick charge 2.0 is a listed feature- it's not. Verizon = Liars. Look at the Z4v that's a disaster to.
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I am pretty tough skinned, it takes more than what you said to be considered "rude" to me.
I agree B.S. what VZW has done with the Advanced Calling 1.0, I am tired of getting the stepchild phones and VZW keeping us from getting the next OS release due to heavy-handed control. I mean Z3 getting a beta test for Marshmallow, seriously? Maybe the guy who got the leak can get Marshmallow leak, but I would like to have the latest OS if possible and I am sure others will agree.
An AOSP with a unlocked bootloader, I miss those days.
Is this bogus?
Hi I'm new to xda developers forum. Is this site BS that claims to offer a 6.0 rom for Z3v?
Since I'm new, I'm not allowed to share the link but it's from
android-xda.net
Marea01 said:
Hi I'm new to xda developers forum. Is this site BS that claims to offer a 6.0 rom for Z3v?
Since I'm new, I'm not allowed to share the link but it's from
android-xda.net
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If it was real we would have heard about it. If it is still wait until it shows up here on XDA.
Marea01 said:
Hi I'm new to xda developers forum. Is this site BS that claims to offer a 6.0 rom for Z3v?
Since I'm new, I'm not allowed to share the link but it's from
android-xda.net
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It is fake
Man it was so great to have the Droid when it first came out. ROM competition was tremendous and you could lead anything you wanted; if you could dream it, someone was already working on it.
I have 4 of those beauts!
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Man it was so great to have the Droid when it first came out. ROM competition was tremendous and you could lead anything you wanted; if you could dream it, someone was already working on it.
I have 4 of those beauts!
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I have a similar experience. My last phone was a Galaxy Nexus, it was an embarrassment of riches as far as being able to modify it. Different ROMs everywhere you looked, modified kernels, etc... Thanks to baldwinguy77 I was running KitKat 3 days after Google introduced it, even before any manufacturers had released phones with it.
The Xperia's lack of popularity with the general public is probably the cause of it's noticeable lack of developer interest. Few devs have one so few work on it.
I really like the phone, it's battery life is second to none. I may have to be satisfied running Lollipop but at least it is rooted so there's that.
Hi,
Some really bad news for anyone that's been unfortunate enough to purchase an A7 EU version.
I have contacted ZTEUK on FB messenger directly to ask about the Nougat update and this is their exact response.
"Hi Mike, Please keep an eye out on our social channels for any information regarding updates. We do not currently have plans to update to Nougat though this may change. Thanks, the ZTE UK team."
Taking into account the amount of EU phones out there this is beyond dreadful in terms of treatment, the question is, where do we go from here? I didn't want to bother rooting the phone, but is there any option left now it's possibly not getting the update at all?
No daydream, no patch fixes, no volume fix, the list goes on!!
How do we pressure ZTE into dealing with this, failing that what other options do we have?
Mike
Haha I doubt it, these customer reps have no idea.
There has been an extensive Nougat test going on as well as confirmations on twitter etc.
G Version will get Nougat.
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Haha I doubt it, these customer reps have no idea.
There has been an extensive Nougat test going on as well as confirmations on twitter etc.
G Version will get Nougat.
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I hope so, that brings some comfort, really the reps should not give throw away replies like that.
Thanks :good:
Don't worry, it just furthers the idea that global organization of ZTE is totally lacking, especially for their EU customers (far behind their american ones). Nougat was announced first by ZTE Germany back in November (originally planned for end of january) and is currently undergoing beta testing as far as I know. The thing is, ZTE Germany is apparently taking care of the dev for the G version but they officially supports only german customers, even if they kinda tried to create an "european" community. Other european branches (it's the case for ZTE france at least) of ZTE seem to be only PR posting advertisement on facebook/twitter. IMO, your rep just copy pasted the basic stonewalling response to this question and has either no information whatsoever or wanted to answer politely without getting carried away.
(If anyone has more info, feel free to correct me)
G Variant will sure get the Nougat Update soon, ZTE UK should know this too dont know why you got this answer from them. But if you G Variant user, follow ZTE Mobile Deutschland on Facebook
Coming from US nougat. There's still bugs, battery drain, etc. Issues that are in the release. I'd rather be back in MM honestly. A stable and complete release would've been better instead of releasing early due to demand. Just look up the issue with whatsapp. Millions of users and they didn't notice such a glaring bug.
I can say without a doubt in my mind that the Axon 2017G will also get Nougat. They are usually a little behind the US team with releases so I imagine it will probably be sometime in March
I wouldn't be surprised if you could just flash the bootstack and modem from LineageOS thread and flash A2017U system on top. I'm totally satisfied with LineageOS, so I'm not even thinking on doing that now or in the future.
The G Variant needs more time than us because they want to fix all founded bugs and increase the quality. like musicdjm said, it will release end feb. or beginning of march. zte could Release it in the end of January but there were too many bug, because of that they started a beta test phase and postponed the Release date
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I wouldn't be surprised if you could just flash the bootstack and modem from LineageOS thread and flash A2017U system on top. I'm totally satisfied with LineageOS, so I'm not even thinking on doing that now or in the future.
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musicdjm said:
You can NOT, the team installed system checks to make sure of this as they have different bootloader and modem
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Yes you can. Few of us already using the B15 N ROM on the G model. All you need is an unlocked BL and TWRP, flash the universal N bootloader, N modem for G and the B15 stocksystem all by DrakenFX.
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Yes you can. Few of us already using the B15 N ROM on the G model. All you need is an unlocked BL and TWRP, flash the universal N bootloader, N modem for G and the B15 stocksystem all by DrakenFX.
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Have you done this yourself and it worked;
Yes and yes
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Can you please point me the thread where these files and the guide to do it are?
Chinese android 7?
I also interested in Chinese 7.0, no news or any rumours about it.
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Yes and yes
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Thats not correct , the phone never boot after this procedre!
The Phone stuck on Bootloader Warning Screen.
Ive testet much more 1 time .
Really is no Boot!
tester2017 said:
Thats not correct , the phone never boot after this procedre!
The Phone stuck on Bootloader Warning Screen.
Ive testet much more 1 time .
Really is no Boot!
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make sure to use su 2.79 (not sr3).
itsxiao said:
Coming from US nougat. There's still bugs, battery drain, etc. Issues that are in the release. I'd rather be back in MM honestly. A stable and complete release would've been better instead of releasing early due to demand. Just look up the issue with whatsapp. Millions of users and they didn't notice such a glaring bug.
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I have the US ZTE Axon 7 (A2017U) and updated to Nougat. What is the WhatsApp bug again? I haven't noticed anything but you can tell me and I will cry in a corner once I know. :crying:
@op When everything else fails, go to change.org and create a petition. The ASUS Zenfone 2 users did that and they are apparently getting the Nougat update in July.
/xuggs
The Axon7 G Variant will directly get 7.1.1