I just picked up a spare battery and was curious to hear some opinions on what would affect the battstats the most.
Would the stats and battery drain be less accurate if I were to bump charge multiple times a day, or if I swapped out batteries when needed?
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What my girlfriend and I have noticed is at the beginning multi battery straight swaps aren't that bad. Over time though the stats get bad and charge life BLOWS GOATS. Also on another note I purchased an extended battery 3600mAh and that thing sucked horse malarkey! To get it to fully charge we had to use an external charger. when u put it on the phone it rocked at 100% for about 30 minutes then dropped to like 15%, then 5%, then sat at 1% for 16-48 hours straight depending how it was charged. The ongoing low battery notification was just too annoying so we tossed it.
Overall a single battery is your best bet but a secondary battery will get you by in a pinch. That's how her an I both roll now and seem to get much better battery life with a single battery.
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Hello Everyone,
So my first day using the Amaze I loved the phone and hated the battery life, with barely using it, bluetooth, wifi and gmail sync all off (no fb) I got about 3% by 5pm. So I am looking for extended battery and dont feel like spending $21 on Anker, specially that all Anker lovers are members since May 2011 or so, kinda fishy, so I looked at alternatives.
I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with this battery:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-Sensati...063195?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3a6efb415b
It may be the same one Anker uses from the same manufacturer in China, I am guessing though, since they are both 1900mAH. For my G2 I got an extended battery from Hong Kong for $4 or $5 and it was excellent except that the door wore out, so I have no worries buying chinese/hk products on eBay.
Thanks!
I'm using an Anker battery and its amazing. That battery looks very generic. I wouldn't trust it.
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I'm using an Anker battery and its amazing. That battery looks very generic. I wouldn't trust it.
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I'm curious. Does your Anker battery drop from 100% to 94% in a matter of 10 to 15 minutes even without using the phone? I've finally had a chance to better compare stock and Anker batteries and I am getting better life out of stock; but it seems to be in the first 8% that makes the difference. The stock battery remains at 100% after a full charge for a good length of time, then slowly drops thru the 90's even while in use. The Anker battery literally drop 8% in minutes even without use, then slows to a "normal" rate after that. Could my battery just be defective in some manner?
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I'm curious. Does your Anker battery drop from 100% to 94% in a matter of 10 to 15 minutes even without using the phone? I've finally had a chance to better compare stock and Anker batteries and I am getting better life out of stock; but it seems to be in the first 8% that makes the difference. The stock battery remains at 100% after a full charge for a good length of time, then slowly drops thru the 90's even while in use. The Anker battery literally drop 8% in minutes even without use, then slows to a "normal" rate after that. Could my battery just be defective in some manner?
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Mine does that as well. I bought it from eBay and told the seller. They sent me a new one and it happens. Mine goes from 100% to 92%. Then when I have about 20%, my phone will beep and say it has 14%. The battery is very strong at 14% but when it drops to 13%, then I have to charge it. But the battery gets me ALOT longer battery life than stock.
Anker Battery and Charger
I have been using the Anker battery on my Amaze. The battery charges in like 2-2 1/2 hours. The charge holds for up to 6-7 hours. I read review on Amazon that these batteries hold charge when you charge them with Anker charger and not while its inserted in your phone. I ordered the Anker Battery charger and have been charging the battery ever since. You will be amazed how long the battery lasts. I am a heavy user and the battery lasts for 8-9 hours now. And when I disable the background data during night, I don't have to charge the battery till next day.
Here is the link for the charger. You can also charge the OEM Battery with this charger.
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Multi-P...CV7O/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1328071542&sr=8-2
So based on all the positive feedback I didnt get the 2x battery + charger from the Chinese seller. Instead I opted for Los Angeles based Anker battery and paid sales tax and got the battery and charger in 2 days for about $21, almost triple the cost of the other one from ebay from my first post in this thread, which actually came with 2 batteries.
So I performed a scientific experiment today took notes and times and made sure things are going smooth. Fully charged the stock and Anker to 100%. Turned on all GPS, WiFi, Data Sync, Bluetooth, Screen Brightness to get the battery to die as fast as possible. Turned on Netflix and started watching Frazier on both batteries until they both died.
Here are the results:
Anker = 183 minutes to auto-shut off had 2:30 minutes of phone call in the middle, not counted in the 183 minutes.)
Stock Battery = 189 minutes to auto-shut-off (had 8 minutes of idle time in between two episodes of the show, not counted in the 189 minutes). The stock battery is about 2 months old, abused and recharged repeatedly in the car, charged when 50% full, disconnected and reconnected over and over in the car etc.
Both phones were in the exact same spot and connected to external speakers. Both experiments were started immediately after the phone was disconnected from the charger. Both were done on the same phone. So based on my experiment, I feel I simply got a second battery for $21 with a mediocre charger. Definitely NOT an extended battery. The Anker is definitely NOT an extended battery I would say its 1800mAh. (look up on eBay there are many 2800mAh batteries with "effective capacity" of 1800mAh). Just as I thought its simply a rebadged cheap $3 battery with white label and a made up brand name and I was duped, should've bought a $3.49 free shipping battery on eBay. Also the battery is about a hair taller than the stock battery so you have to kinda force it in the Amaze as it says right on top Sensation although it was sold as Amaze 4G battery, I don't care though.
On the positive side, the CHARGER can connect to your existing charger, pretty cool concept, although it may sound useless but its really useful in the car where I don't have 110v but I have a car charger that I can plug into this charger and use a second cable to connect the phone to this charger, this way I can charge both batteries while driving, one on the charger the second inside the phone connected to the Anker charger then connected to the car charger.
I should've bought this 2200mAh battery, probably better than the Anker.
I bought the Anker 1900 from amazon about a month ago. Like someone mentioned, if you charge the battery in charger, you will get better discharge rates.
Keep in mind this is done after I have done a five full charge/discharge cycles on the batteries.
Moderate & High use
Using daily roads manager (GPS, Camera 720p Video Recording) 40min|120min per charging cycle
Bluetooth,Wifi, and GPS always ON
Screen Brightness at 2% or 100%. on 2% 2/3 of the screen on time.
Accounts Sync set to Hourly
Text/MMS (<200|>200)
Youtube (30min|80min)
Moderate use Includes 8-10hrs on standby while I slept
Stock Battery
Charged to 100% on the phone
-Holds 100% charge for more than an hour on standby
-Drops to 92% after 20min drive to work
-Record uptime 20hrs with moderate use
-Record uptime 10hrs with heavy use
Anker 1900
Charged to 96% on charger, topped off to 100% on the Phone
-Holds 100% after disconnecting for about 10mins on standby then starts dropping fast.
-Drops to 92% after 20min drive to work
-Record uptime 23hrs with moderate use
-Record uptime 11hrs with heavy use
Charged on the Phone fully to 100%
-Drops to 95% before even getting to my car within 10 mins on standby
-Drops to 82% after 20 min drive to work
-Record uptime 8hrs with moderate use
-Record uptime 4hrs with heavy use
While I haven't performed qualitative experiments as several of you have, I can honestly say that after using the Anker battery long enough for it to go through numerous "cycles", it definitely lasts longer than stock. It still drops very quickly from 100% down to mid-90s within a few minutes even without using the device, but it used to drop to low 90s in that same period of time. Anyway, regardless of the odd characteristics, it seems to be a very good battery.
BTW, if you pay anywhere close to $21 for just the battery, you're getting ripped of by that retailer. You can easily find it online for $15, and you can often find 2 batteries with the charger for $30. (Actually, Amazon has 1 battery & the charger for $19 right now, see http://www.amazon.com/Anker-1900mAh...LR66/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328364737&sr=8-1.) I wasn't that patient so I got one battery and the charger for $28 back in early January, but I honestly wouldn't bother with the charger if I had to do it over again. But that's just me, others have reported it as being great benefit so it probably depends on your situation.
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BTW, if you pay anywhere close to $21 for just the battery, you're getting ripped of by that retailer. You can easily find it online for $15, and you can often find 2 batteries with the charger for $30.
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I did get the $18.99 with charger and yes I was ripped off and paid close to $21 because my wonderful state of CA charges me an arm and a leg for sales tax. Also there is only one seller for Anker on both eBay and Amazon thats laptopmate, same price both on eBay and Amazon except that on Amazon is free supersaver shipping meaning you have to spend $25 to get free shipping but on eBay you don't. Laptopmate ships from a house neat los Angeles which maybe someone who bought a lot and imported from China and now selling them on eBay and Amazon for good profit because I don't see it being any better than the $3.49 and $6.02 batteries I posted above. When I got an extended battery for my old G2 it lasted me over twice as long but made the phone larger.
Seems charging this battery I'm the charger that came with it will give you the best discharge rates. Below is light use, with Wifi,BT, and gps on the whole time. Used it only for dash cam for about 2 hours off and on.
When I tried charging the battery on the phone only, I'd be lucky if I can hit 10 hours.
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I bought this battery for my HTC Amaze 4G (I love this phone!!!) and on my first full discharge cycle, the charge dropped from 100% to 95% in 3 minutes. It seemed to skip 99% through 96%. It then continued to discharge rapidly until around the mid 70's when it kind of starts to slow down.
By the 50% mark, it seems to discharge at a normal rate. During this cycle, I had my Bluetooth on for the 1 hour drive to and from work +1 drive into work on the day it ran out completely. Talk time was around 15 mins in mixed Bluetooth, handset, and speaker phone. About 3 hours of surfing, facebook, gtalk, Globe and Mail news app, and watched a couple of Youtube videos. I sent and received email and calendar notifications (sound+vibrate) almost every 30 mins. I turned off Wifi if I wasn't near any hotspot. I used Bluetooth tethering for about 45 mins. It was in airplane mode between 2 am and 6 am.
By the 20% mark, the discharge rate was very slow. It took another 3 hours before it reached 4% when the phone automatically powered off. Before it did that, I was able to take a picture of it with my webcam (attached) where it shows it has been on for 28 hours.
I am getting the same from my stock battery, and am happy with it anyway, so honestly, I cannot tell if this is really a 1900Mah battery inside. I will keep using it for a week. If it does not improve, I will switch back to my stock battery because that seems to discharge at a more constant rate.
What brand is it? Is it an anker?
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What brand is it? Is it an anker?
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Well I have an Anker but I didn't get it for $7.99. That's a great deal. I have 2 of them and they host last a fair amount of time.
I just ordered this external battery you might like something like this, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008Y4VTJU/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
My shopping research pointed me out that this would be best for me because:
1. Pocket size battery perfect for on the go to.... anywhere!
2. Charge it in the wall with your htc charger instead of camping by an outlet with your phone if you need to be on it.
3. 5600mAh battery (should charge the amaze about 3 times)
4. Higher voltage (in amps) for faster charging than many other external batteries... I recently bought another external battery off ebay that doesnt even output enought power to charge my phone on standby becareful about this!
There were many others on amazon by anker and powergen, that are I guess name brand?? who have 100-300+ count of customer reviews if thats what you are looking for, I decided to try this brand because it was the best price for the value... Ill let you know how it is when I get it in the mail if you'd like
If you choose to go with this brand check the dimensions they have different width x length x heights for the same size mAh battery (this is the slimmest but longest one of the 5600 mAh) and check the picture for a micro usb port some of their descriptions will say they do but then have a MINI usb port!!
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I just ordered this external battery you might like something like this, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008Y4VTJU/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
My shopping research pointed me out that this would be best for me because:
1. Pocket size battery perfect for on the go to.... anywhere!
2. Charge it in the wall with your htc charger instead of camping by an outlet with your phone if you need to be on it.
3. 5600mAh battery (should charge the amaze about 3 times)
4. Higher voltage (in amps) for faster charging than many other external batteries... I recently bought another external battery off ebay that doesnt even output enought power to charge my phone on standby becareful about this!
There were many others on amazon by anker and powergen, that are I guess name brand?? who have 100-300+ count of customer reviews if thats what you are looking for, I decided to try this brand because it was the best price for the value... Ill let you know how it is when I get it in the mail if you'd like
If you choose to go with this brand check the dimensions they have different width x length x heights for the same size mAh battery (this is the slimmest but longest one of the 5600 mAh) and check the picture for a micro usb port some of their descriptions will say they do but then have a MINI usb port!!
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Anker is a trusted brand as is Mungen. I don't know about any of the others. I'd be suspicious of any battery that was that cheap and suspect it to be a fake. High-quality batteries will usually cost 15-20 at least.
5600 mAH is the charge it holds but the efficiency will always make the effective charging power less. Depending on the native voltage/amps of the device, you will lose anywhere from 20-40% off the maximum rating from things like heat.
Higher voltage in amps will also shorten your battery's lifespan. Not by much but that's the tradeoff you get for the convenience.
I just have 2 anker batteries I switch out constantly on my amaze. If I'm stuck somewhere, my Amaze will be heavily used and it only lasts about 4 hours under heavy use with my Anker. It's good to have another one and another battery is less bulky than most chargers.
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Anker is a trusted brand as is Mungen. I don't know about any of the others. I'd be suspicious of any battery that was that cheap and suspect it to be a fake. High-quality batteries will usually cost 15-20 at least.
5600 mAH is the charge it holds but the efficiency will always make the effective charging power less. Depending on the native voltage/amps of the device, you will lose anywhere from 20-40% off the maximum rating from things like heat.
Higher voltage in amps will also shorten your battery's lifespan. Not by much but that's the tradeoff you get for the convenience.
I just have 2 anker batteries I switch out constantly on my amaze. If I'm stuck somewhere, my Amaze will be heavily used and it only lasts about 4 hours under heavy use with my Anker. It's good to have another one and another battery is less bulky than most chargers.
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Just got my ezo battery today it works great, solo charging is almost as fast as the wall charge and I can charge 2 devices at once.
I'm using an "EC" brand 1900mAH battery that I bought for 7.99 in July of this year right after I got my AMAZE4G. I bought it on Amazon.com, and yesmin my experience it does last longer than the OEM battery. I have no idea how much longer it will last, but so far, so good.
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Perform shallow discharges.
Instead of discharging to 0% all the time, lithium-ion batteries do best when you discharge them for a little bit, then charge them for a little bit. The table below, from Battery University, shows that discharges to 50% are better for your battery's long-term life than, say, small discharges to 90% or large discharges to 0% (since the 50% discharges provide the best number of cycles-to-usage ratio).
Don't leave it fully charged.
Similarly, lithium-ion batteries don't need to be charged all the way to 100%. In fact, they'd prefer not to be—so the 40%-80% rule you heard is a good guideline. If you do charge it to 100%, don't leave it plugged in. This is something most of us do, but it's another thing that will degrade your battery's health.
Fully discharge it once a month.
This may seem contradictory, but hear us out. While lithium-ion batteries shouldn't be discharged regularly, most modern batteries are what's known as "smart batteries". This feature can get miscalibrated after a lot of shallow discharges. So, manufacturers recommend fully discharging your battery once a month to make sure this stays accurate.
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Is this true?
you can be as neurotic as you like over this, but it really d doesn't make a lot of difference, just enjoy your phone.
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The only big no no is to constantly discharge to below 5% and recharge . That according to the experts leads to a much shorter battery life .
Yes leaving on charge is a waste .
Wiping Battery stats does not improve battery life .
But all this is an old story posted time and again and bring nothing new .
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Yes leaving on charge is a waste
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It may be a waste but is it detrimental to the battery? I always plug my phone in when I go to bed and take it off the charger when I get up in the morning.
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It may be a waste but is it detrimental to the battery? I always plug my phone in when I go to bed and take it off the charger when I get up in the morning.
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there is a built in feature that stops charging once battery level reaches 100%. so there will be no harm to your battery. I have doing the same since gs1
My old Nokia 3510 needed a battery replacement after 4-5 years since it only held 3 days worth of charge instead of the usual 7-8.
I constantly let it discharge from 100% (overnight charging) to empty, the replacement battery cost me 5 bucks.
My Galaxy S1's battery has, after 2 years, no observable loss in capacity with overnight charging to 100% and dropping to 10-15% over 1-2 days.
A replacement battery would cost roughly 15 bucks.
I could go on the same about my Laptop, Netbook, Tablet and other devices with rechargeable Li-Ion batteries.
The point is; don't try to forcefully extend your battery life, enjoy your phone. Most people replace the phone every 1-2 years and the batteries are designed to live that long with high usage and deep-discharging. If yours should not or you plan to keep the phone longer, a replacement battery is cheap.
there is a built in feature that stops charging once battery level reaches 100%.
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All Lithium batteries have it (and need it) since there is a risk of damage, fire or even explosion when it is overcharged. That's why not the phone but the battery itself has the corresponding controller. Since the controller cannot measure the exact capacity of the battery (only an estimate), it is recomended to deep-discharge and fully charge (charge-cycle) the battery once in a while to reset the controller's counter.
Battery replacement is cheap and easy as abc. That's the benefit of having removable battery. Just enjoy your phone.
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So why do Sammy stop charging at 99%
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So why do Sammy stop charging at 99%
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Why don't you just read the thread and you will see the explanation?!
i have always been charging my samsung galaxy note and sIII overnight ever since i got them , i stil have great battery life !
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i have always been charging my samsung galaxy note and sIII overnight ever since i got them , i stil have great battery life !
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Same here. No broblem.
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Still no one answered my question... :silly:
Is the small 40%-80% charges better for the long-term battery life?
Hello guys
Do you know what is the máximum charge for the bh6x and the bh5x
I wonder if for the bh6x is 4200mV, i'm having a several battery drain and i want to make sure that the battery is in good shape
bh5x is the one that came with my phone and i'm not sure of it's maximum capacity too.
I recently replaced my battery with the same one that came with the phone. Found a relatively cheap OEM on eBay, and I charge it every day (sometimes twice on days with really heavy usage).
IDK the maximum charges, but you can kinda tell when a battery isn't as strong as it once was when it came with the phone.
Then again this is EXACTLY why I want removable batteries on my cell phones and absolutely HATE integrated battery cell phones... (IDC how "cool" the phone looks)
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I have both of those and the maximum charge i get on the bh6x is 4200 and the bh5x is 4174
Hope that helps
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Hello guys
Do you know what is the máximum charge for the bh6x and the bh5x
I wonder if for the bh6x is 4200mV, i'm having a several battery drain and i want to make sure that the battery is in good shape
bh5x is the one that came with my phone and i'm not sure of it's maximum capacity too.
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Thanks. i found out that both charges uo to 4200 but everything depends on the power per hour they can deliver
Thankyou
I got the mugen 3600mah just 2 days. I realize its very very weak battery. When I turn on 4g, it cost 1% battery every minutes. 8 hours while the screen on only 1 hours cost about 45%. Im using speed8 rom. What do I need to do? Is there something wrong with the battery or the room?
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I got the mugen 3600mah just 2 days. I realize its very very weak battery. When I turn on 4g, it cost 1% battery every minutes. 8 hours while the screen on only 1 hours cost about 45%. Im using speed8 rom. What do I need to do? Is there something wrong with the battery or the room?
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Something must be wrong with your battery, I get better battery life with the stock OEM battery running speedrom 8, I get around a day of heavy usage 3 hour screenie. So your 3600 mah should be a huge improvement over that
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Maybe the new battery needs a few days to "settle" try draining it completely to zero then recharging completely to 100%.do a few cycles of that and I am sure you will start seeing better battery life
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bummer to hear your having problems the the mugen battery, love mine, battery lasts me 2.5 day's average with my usage. did you buy it new or used ?