I have a new gear s on Verizon and have found the battery life very variable for lack of a better description. It appears the Verizon version does not display the same info in the moments bar as the Samsung manual shows or as I have seen on other carriers versions. I ask because my battery life in auto connect verses always off is a major difference even when connected to the phone via Bluetooth. It almost appears the 3G/4G is always on in the auto setting. worse case connected to the phone "note 4" via Bluetooth and network in auto I was getting 7 hours from 100% to 15% battery. If I turn the network off in the same situation I got over 40 hours and still had 25% battery left. Does anyone know if the Verizon version actually turns the network on/off in auto mode? Since they don't display this information in the moments bar you don't know if you are on, off or remotely connected. The 3G by the signal strength bar graph is always on whether you are on or in auto mode. Thanks for any help you might have.
I have the Verizon version also. When I'm by my phone Bluetooth automatically turns on and 3g turns off and vice versa. I had problems with it not automatically switching 3g off so I ran clean master from the Samsung store(made for Samsung phones) and ever since then it always works with auto connect
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kieso said:
I have the Verizon version also. When I'm by my phone Bluetooth automatically turns on and 3g turns off and vice versa. I had problems with it not automatically switching 3g off so I ran clean master from the Samsung store(made for Samsung phones) and ever since then it always works with auto connect
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Thank you for your response. I tried your suggestion but can see no immediate difference. If I may ask how do you know 3G/4G is turning on and off? On my watch the Bluetooth symbol in the moments bar will change either having the additional white triangles on each side when connected. The 3G/4G and signal strength bar graph is always there in the on or the auto. Only off will make them disappear. Thanks.
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Thank you for your response. I tried your suggestion but can see no immediate difference. If I may ask how do you know 3G/4G is turning on and off? On my watch the Bluetooth symbol in the moments bar will change either having the additional white triangles on each side when connected. The 3G/4G and signal strength bar graph is always there in the on or the auto. Only off will make them disappear. Thanks.
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The 3g disappears and turns off the cell radio then connects to my phone Bluetooth. Double check your settings under connections, then mobile networks, make sure gear network is set to auto switch
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Thank you once again for the information. I pretty sure mine is not working as it should. I have the 3G and signal strength bar graph if the mobile network is on or in auto phone connected Bluetooth and inches away. You need something to know if its on or off as you stated 3G there or off. The weird thing is with the network in auto and Bluetooth connected I put the phone in airplane mode then tried making a call from the watch. It would not do it. The 3G was there telling me the network is on but not making phone calls. I tried sending a text to the watch phone number with the network off and as expected it didn't come through even connected to the phone via Bluetooth. If the network is in auto and connected to phone via Bluetooth the text to watch phone number will come through. I'm guessing to get calls or texts to the watch phone number the network must be on. I'm curious if yours behaves as mine does. I have had the note 4 since January and its getting pretty cluttered with stuff plus add the lollypop update to the mix. I have tried a hard rest on the watch and think I'm going to do the same to the phone to clean house and try from scratch. Thanks again.
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3 out of 4 times my phone fails to disconnect the mobile data network when I connect to WiFi. This is draining my battery unnecessarily.
What could be causing this unless I can fix it so it is automatic I will have to stop using wifi so it doesn't waste power keeping both connections going.
I am running a 2.3.6 rom.
Do you toggle the connections or just enable/disable WiFi? When you enable WiFi and connects, does the 3G icon (the two arrows) appear next to the WiFi icon?
my phone does both I have a program that shuts it completely off when I go to work then back on when i get home based on time.the rest of the time it is on even if I go away which then it just disconnects but wifi is still on.
I have not paid enough attention to when it happens but when it does I have both the wifi icon and the data arrows at the same time.
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I think you just answered your own question
What program are you using? Might a suggest a change for Juice Defender for example? or many others that do the same thing...
Hi,
I just got this white Skyrocket phone with 200MB data plan.
I heard that when connected to 4G, the phone uses data allowance from the data package, whereas if connected to WIFI (like at home), the data usage doesn't come off my AT&T data allowance.
So I want to disconnect from 4G and connect to my WIFI when I am at home.
At the store, the just told me to make sure that WIFI is showing as on on the top bar (or when you swipe that bar down). They said if WIFI is showing on, it means that the phone is using WIFI connection.
However, I see that at the same time when WIFI is showing on, the "4G" icon is also showing on and looking active! So- they are both looking active! That's why I wonder which connection is my Skyrocket actually using?
It looks like the data I use on WIFI also comes out of my data plan because the data packet is on.
So I had an idea, went to settings-wireless-mobile networks and unchecked "Use Data Packet".
When the above was unchecked, 4G icon disappeared and I could see only WIFI icon on the top bar, which would be good - however, the problem is that now I cannot connect to internet. (I turned the phone on and off- no change)
Does it mean that there is no way on Skyrocket to bypass AT&T data allowance and whether I use 4G or my own WIFI, there is no free internet access on this phone?
Or is there something else I can do to make sure I am connected just to my WIFI and data is free?
I would appreciate your help.
Thank you
This isnt the skyrocket forum.
wrong forum.. don't know about Skyrocket.. this is Galaxy S II SGH-i777
But you can always check by running some speedtest if you know how fast your wifi is.. or just go to settings and make sure it says connected.. or turn off your data when you're not using it.
Grab a program like traffic monitor. It'll show where your apps are getting data from and how much they're using.
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Sometimes apps like the market actually use your mobile data connection so both icons will show. From your phone dialer enter *3282# and hit call. It will send you a text letting you know how much data you've used.
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Just thought I'd share something that is really working for me in terms of battery life:
Create a smart action that disables cellular data whenever you are connected to a WiFi network.
I have been consistently getting 12+ hours of battery with moderate to heavy use when on only on WiFi.
Thanks for the tip. I will definitely try this.
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Just thought I'd share something that is really working for me in terms of battery life:
Create a smart action that disables cellular data whenever you are connected to a WiFi network.
I have been consistently getting 12+ hours of battery with moderate to heavy use when on only on WiFi.
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I have the same setup. Also have an action when I turn my screen off it disables wifi, background sync, cell data, and GPS. 12+ hrs here also.
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I was thinking about setting something like that up, but was worried about interference with calls & SMS & junk... Any problems to report?
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bebeau25 said:
I have the same setup. Also have an action when I turn my screen off it disables wifi, background sync, cell data, and GPS. 12+ hrs here also.
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Why would you turn data off when screen is off??? Don't make sense doing that.
On mine data turns off the moment I connect to WiFi and that is the way it is supposed to work. Do you see a H, E, or whatever data icon next to the bars when you connect to WiFi? If not, it means data is already off. Why use the smart action then?
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I was thinking about setting something like that up, but was worried about interference with calls & SMS & junk... Any problems to report?
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Calls and SMS you should be fine with because they do not require a data connection.
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On mine data turns off the moment I connect to WiFi and that is the way it is supposed to work. Do you see a H, E, or whatever data icon next to the bars when you connect to WiFi? If not, it means data is already off. Why use the smart action then?
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IIRC, although a WiFi data connection superceeds a cellular data connection when it is active, the 3G/4G radio is still alive even if it isn't involved in data transfers during that time..
I've certainly noticed improved battery life when on WiFi but explicitly turning the 3G/4G (mobile data) radio off.
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IIRC, although a WiFi data connection superceeds a cellular data connection when it is active, the 3G/4G radio is still alive even if it isn't involved in data transfers during that time..
I've certainly noticed improved battery life when on WiFi but explicitly turning the 3G/4G (mobile data) radio off.
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The only problem i had with this was with MMS messages. can't send or receive MMS.
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Why would you turn data off when screen is off??? Don't make sense doing that.
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How not?? Your screen is off and 3G/WiFi is killing your battery for no reason (unless you are downloading or background sync on for a reason), so why not have it off when screen is off and save battery. I still stick with JuiceDefender for this.
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IIRC, although a WiFi data connection superceeds a cellular data connection when it is active, the 3G/4G radio is still alive even if it isn't involved in data transfers during that time..
I've certainly noticed improved battery life when on WiFi but explicitly turning the 3G/4G (mobile data) radio off.
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1. Data radio is one and the same with your cellular calls radio, so unless you go into flight mode, it is going to be active.
2. If it is not sending or receiving data it is not using more energy than when data is disabled and cellular stays enabled.
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1. Data radio is one and the same with your cellular calls radio, so unless you go into flight mode, it is going to be active.
2. If it is not sending or receiving data it is not using more energy than when data is disabled and cellular stays enabled.
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Interesting you say that, but I've noticed that as far as the what the phone's reporting via settings/toggle widgets etc.. "mobile data" is still active when WiFi is active (even if its status disappears from the notification bar and no actual mobile data activity is going on).. and, it can be explicitly turned off - leaving you still able to receive calls etc. Perhaps its not turning the
radio "off" per-se, but its definitely seems to be doing something over and above just letting WiFi take precidence for data transactions..
I've definitely noticed an improvement in battery life by doing this, over and above simply turning on and connecting to WiFi and NOT explicity turning mobile data off..
I also noticed that in some older versions/flavours of android (2.1, 2.2) the option to explicitly turn off "Mobile Data" wasn't present, relying instead (I assume) on what you've described above..
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1. Data radio is one and the same with your cellular calls radio, so unless you go into flight mode, it is going to be active.
2. If it is not sending or receiving data it is not using more energy than when data is disabled and cellular stays enabled.
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I don't believe this is correct. I believe the Wi-Fi chip is independent of the cellular antenna. That is what I have seen in every tear down of the phone.
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I don't believe this is correct. I believe the Wi-Fi chip is independent of the cellular antenna. That is what I have seen in every tear down of the phone.
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Where did I say WiFi radio and cellular radio are in one chip? I said DATA and CALLS chip is one and the same.
I thought that it would be better to bring back an old thread rather than start a new one.
I have a smart action as described in this thread that turns off cellular data whenever I am connected to wifi. However, the problem I have is that cellular data does not turn back on whenever I disconnect from wifi. I have to manually go into my settings and enable data. Has anyone else run into this?
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I thought that it would be better to bring back an old thread rather than start a new one.
I have a smart action as described in this thread that turns off cellular data whenever I am connected to wifi. However, the problem I have is that cellular data does not turn back on whenever I disconnect from wifi. I have to manually go into my settings and enable data. Has anyone else run into this?
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I sorta have the same(ish) problem. Data can take a little while to activate after I'm disconnected from WiFi. Every once in a while, I need to turn airplane mode on and off in order for data to turn blue. The fact that MMS messages are disabled with this Smart Action is a little disappointing too, but I don't receive enough while I'm home to be super frustrated by it...
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I think the problem is to do with Smart actions not returning your device back to the exact state it was in before the action was triggered.. Possibly also issues with other smart actions interfering with the state of other parameters..
I wonder why Moto didn't go with an 'exit action' approach used by apps like Tasker?
I'm having an issue that has been bothering me. I run Etrade Pro with streaming data and charts, and when I leave my home, it does not automatically cut the wifi and switch to LTE or 4g. My app stops and says there is no data. This has happened a lot and I wonder if there are some settings that need to assure that mt cell signal automatically kicks in when Wifi cuts out.
ANother problem is that if I approach an area where there is wifi, the phone connects, and i usually get a data issue again.
I also got the same problem when i stream a video while on wifi and then leave the wifi zone, so I know it is not an Etrade app specific problem,
Any advice would be appreciated. What I am having to do is manually shut off wifi and then restart the app when the 4g kicks in, and I know the phone is designed to handle this for me.
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I'm having an issue that has been bothering me. I run Etrade Pro with streaming data and charts, and when I leave my home, it does not automatically cut the wifi and switch to LTE or 4g. My app stops and says there is no data. This has happened a lot and I wonder if there are some settings that need to assure that mt cell signal automatically kicks in when Wifi cuts out.
ANother problem is that if I approach an area where there is wifi, the phone connects, and i usually get a data issue again.
I also got the same problem when i stream a video while on wifi and then leave the wifi zone, so I know it is not an Etrade app specific problem,
Any advice would be appreciated. What I am having to do is manually shut off wifi and then restart the app when the 4g kicks in, and I know the phone is designed to handle this for me.
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I'm not sure this is something we have control over, I was reading over a white paper qualcomm wrote on the matter: http://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/3g-wifi-seamless-offload.pdf
Our phone is 3GPP R8 however, I'm not sure at&t's network supports dual stack mobile IP, so therefor the handoff between wifi and 3g would have to interrupt data.
WHat bothers me is that I just came from an Iphone4 and the iPhone switched from wifi to cell, and my Etrade App kept running. There may have been a momentary lag, but i didn't have to close the app and start it again.
Let me look into it more when I get home. At work youtube is blocked on the company network so I can't test if a video continues between handover here.
WHen I leave my home and know that I am out of wifi range, I still see the wifi symbol on the home screen but it looks like there are no bars of strength. It's like the thing is still trying to draw data through wifi that is well out of range.
Frustrating.
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WHen I leave my home and know that I am out of wifi range, I still see the wifi symbol on the home screen but it looks like there are no bars of strength. It's like the thing is still trying to draw data through wifi that is well out of range.
Frustrating.
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So if the wifi symbol is on the status bar that means the phone is still connected to the wifi (or at least thinks it is).
I was not able to reproduce your problem with youtube when I was home. I started a video on wifi in my home, and then walked out the front door and down the hall until it lost the connection, the wifi symbol disappeared and it just had to re-buffer a little bit after it switched to LTE then the video continued.
I did a search and didn't find anything so I apologize if this is a re-post. I can't figure out what function the Wi-Fi has on the Moto360 2. Does anyone have any insight on this?
Any help is appreciated. Thanks
I tried figuring this out too since my old gear 2 running wear didn't have wifi. from what I understand if you disconnect from Bluetooth, if you're on a wifi network you can get notification on your watch still no matter where your phone is. your phone can be on the wireless network and not wifi, and still through Google cloud services can send notifications to your watch. you can be like anywhere in the world I presume, and if your watch is on wifi, then you'll get notifications still
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I tried figuring this out too since my old gear 2 running wear didn't have wifi. from what I understand if you disconnect from Bluetooth, if you're on a wifi network you can get notification on your watch still no matter where your phone is. your phone can be on the wireless network and not wifi, and still through Google cloud services can send notifications to your watch. you can be like anywhere in the world I presume, and if your watch is on wifi, then you'll get notifications still
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That's what I was thinking and I tested that out today without any success. But I think it's because I'm at work and the WiFi situation here is not the best. I'll test at home. Thanks
What the wifi functionality on the watch does, as it did on the 1st gen, is allow communication from your phone to the watch when the watch is out of bluetooth range. You have to be on the same wifi network with the watch and phone currently. There is no current multiple network communication at the moment, though I hope they implement that in the near future. If my hue lights can do it, my damn watch should be able to
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What the wifi functionality on the watch does, as it did on the 1st gen, is allow communication from your phone to the watch when the watch is out of bluetooth range. You have to be on the same wifi network with the watch and phone currently. There is no current multiple network communication at the moment, though I hope they implement that in the near future. If my hue lights can do it, my damn watch should be able to
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Thanks for clearing that up. So the WiFi functionality is basically useless. If my phone and my watch are on the same WiFi network, then the chances are extremely high that they are both also within bluetooth range of each other. Adding to that, the fact that you need your phone to connect to a WiFi network in the first place really defeats the object of having WiFi on the watch at all. So if you're out and about without your phone, there is no chance for you to hook up with a WiFi hotspot.
If my Nexus 6p is connected to 5ghz wifi and my moto 360 2 is connected to 2.4ghz wifi on the same network will i have notifications if i lose bluetooth range?
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Thanks for clearing that up. So the WiFi functionality is basically useless. If my phone and my watch are on the same WiFi network, then the chances are extremely high that they are both also within bluetooth range of each other. Adding to that, the fact that you need your phone to connect to a WiFi network in the first place really defeats the object of having WiFi on the watch at all. So if you're out and about without your phone, there is no chance for you to hook up with a WiFi hotspot.
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It's great for me when I'm at home or in the office since bluetooth drains the phone battery much quicker than WiFi. Outside of that benefits are pretty limited.
it's not true though. they don't have to be on the same network. when my phone is 4g and watch is wifi, i still get it. that's because google cloud services are running on the phone and upload and the watch receives it.... just like how my Flux wifi bulb can be accessed remotely from another network and 4g.
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it's not true though. they don't have to be on the same network. when my phone is 4g and watch is wifi, i still get it. that's because google cloud services are running on the phone and upload and the watch receives it.... just like how my Flux wifi bulb can be accessed remotely from another network and 4g.
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I can confirm this. Working on different networks. Wifi plus 4G working fine.
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Do notifications on the watch work if the phone is off or dead? What I'm getting at is do the notifications actually come from the phone over wifi or do they come directly from google services?
I have been trying this on my wifi network with no luck. My phone is on my 5ghz wifi and the watch can only do 2.4 (I live in an apt and the 2.4 spectrum is absurdly saturated), I do not get alerts when my phone is out of range (rare since my apt is small).
I like the feature a lot if it worked correctly, it means my phone can sit charging somewhere (IE my room) and I can be around doing things and still get alerts. I will have to do more testing tonight. I might try turning bluetooth off on my phone and see if I still get alerts to my phone.
Still new to the smartwatch world but I love my 360