I was used to having Lte and being able to be on a call and use Internet. I thought all high end phones were capable of it so now I'm kinda annoyed this phone can't. Is 5.0 supposed to fix this
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Your two options are here:
1. Now with root, there's possibility to unlocking bootloader. With unlocked bootloader, you can do custom rom. With custom rom, that's where you can freely do the options of anything whoever desires to do what, I'm guessing.
2. Continue to wait for lollipop from Verizon. Really stupid that T-Mobile has confirmed two lollipop updates but Verizon is no news.
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Sign up for a Google voice number and use Google hangouts dialer which works on a data connection or WiFi.
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I use it at home since my cellular service is weak. When someone calls my cell it forwards to my Google voice # after a few rings through my wifi on my phone, tablet, pc or any other device that works with GV.
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1. Now with root, there's possibility to unlocking bootloader.
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Being able to root does not mean you can unlock the bootloader. The bootloader on this variant is locked and cannot be unlocked.
Oh I know that. Eventually though, this will be unlocked. Whenever someone is able to get the unlock keys from Sony.
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Oh I know that. Eventually though, this will be unlocked. Whenever someone is able to get the unlock keys from Sony.
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I do not think so. No Sony phone has had an unofficial bootloader unlock since the Xperia Neo, released in 2011 (iirc) as no dev is working on an unofficial unlock because Sony allows people to unlock on some devices. Why try and unlock the caged, barred, alarmed window when they give you the key to the front door?
It is a very smart move from Sony as all the incentive to find an unofficial unlock is gone. I am not saying it wont happen, but going off past experience its not just that it is very difficult, its just that no one is even trying....
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Your two options are here:
1. Now with root, there's possibility to unlocking bootloader. With unlocked bootloader, you can do custom rom. With custom rom, that's where you can freely do the options of anything whoever desires to do what, I'm guessing.
2. Continue to wait for lollipop from Verizon. Really stupid that T-Mobile has confirmed two lollipop updates but Verizon is no news.
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No VoLTE until VZW flips the switch for this devices. Even a Lollipop update is no guarantee. The HTC One M8 is on 5.0.1 and still has no VoLTE, even those that are S-Off, unlocked, rooted, ROM'd yadda yadda
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I do not think so. No Sony phone has had an unofficial bootloader unlock since the Xperia Neo, released in 2011 (iirc) as no dev is working on an unofficial unlock because Sony allows people to unlock on some devices. Why try and unlock the caged, barred, alarmed window when they give you the key to the front door?
It is a very smart move from Sony as all the incentive to find an unofficial unlock is gone. I am not saying it wont happen, but going off past experience its not just that it is very difficult, its just that no one is even trying....
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The Sony Xperia Z3 is officially unlocked with the only problem that you'll lose the DRM keys that gives the camera special qualities. And we've achieved root so far, so it's not that no one is trying, it's just security is much tighter.
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No VoLTE until VZW flips the switch for this devices. Even a Lollipop update is no guarantee. The HTC One M8 is on 5.0.1 and still has no VoLTE, even those that are S-Off, unlocked, rooted, ROM'd yadda yadda
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Erhm, I'd like to know where you know the HTC One M8 is lacking simultaneous voice and data. My brother has one rooted, unlocked, and all that and he can make calls while browsing. So wherever you heard that from... better check your resources again.
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The Sony Xperia Z3 is officially unlocked with the only problem that you'll lose the DRM keys that gives the camera special qualities. And we've achieved root so far, so it's not that no one is trying, it's just security is much tighter.
Erhm, I'd like to know where you know the HTC One M8 is lacking simultaneous voice and data. My brother has one rooted, unlocked, and all that and he can make calls while browsing. So wherever you heard that from... better check your resources again.
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I think the M8 always had simultaneous voice and data, that's not VoLTE, I should ,have called it "Enhanced 4G" although it's part of it for the newest devices. The simultaneous voice/data will be part of the "enhanced 4G" for the newest devices, and, AFAIK, there's no way to hack around that. The other parts of Enhanced 4G, i.e. HD calling and video calling are still not available for the M8, even for those that have been able to get the toggle activated.
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I think the M8 always had simultaneous voice and data, that's not VoLTE, I should ,have called it "Enhanced 4G" although it's part of it for the newest devices. The simultaneous voice/data will be part of the "enhanced 4G" for the newest devices, and, AFAIK, there's no way to hack around that. The other parts of Enhanced 4G, i.e. HD calling and video calling are still not available for the M8, even for those that have been able to get the toggle activated.
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Lol, the only part I'm still really concerned about is the basic necessity function for simultaneous voice and data. I don't see what significant differences enhanced calling or whatnot will make as long as either person on each other's line can hear perfectly while also being able to browse data that can be important for the moment. It's basically the definition of a "smartphone".
This really makes me rethink my purchase, today I needed to review an email while on the phone with a designer and could not
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This really makes me rethink my purchase, today I needed to review an email while on the phone with a designer and could not
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Your best chance of making up for that is to be connected to wi-fi while on a call.
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The Sony Xperia Z3 is officially unlocked with the only problem that you'll lose the DRM keys that gives the camera special qualities. And we've achieved root so far, so it's not that no one is trying, it's just security is much tighter.
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I know. All xperia Phones since 2012 have been able to be officially unlocked unless the carrier has blocked it. For the Z3 v it has been blocked. Also, the difference between gaining root & and unlocking the boot is massive, Do not expect to get unlocked boots on the Z3 v, There has not even been a working kexec on locked devices for a few years.
Anyway, apologies for the hijack of the thread. My post are for info only
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Lol, the only part I'm still really concerned about is the basic necessity function for simultaneous voice and data. I don't see what significant differences enhanced calling or whatnot will make as long as either person on each other's line can hear perfectly while also being able to browse data that can be important for the moment. It's basically the definition of a "smartphone".
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The m8 had voice and data to start with, which means hardware and drivers to support it. Our phone, unfortunately, dies not have that capability and will only be able to do voice and data when volte is implemented. Custom Rom can be installed with locked bootloaders with the appropriate recovery, but not kernel
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I know. All xperia Phones since 2012 have been able to be officially unlocked unless the carrier has blocked it. For the Z3 v it has been blocked. Also, the difference between gaining root & and unlocking the boot is massive, Do not expect to get unlocked boots on the Z3 v, There has not even been a working kexec on locked devices for a few years.
Anyway, apologies for the hijack of the thread. My post are for info only
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It definitely gives the Z3v an unlock code when you select the Z3 and type in your ESN here: http://developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/unlock-yourboot-loader/
I just think we are missing something within our fastboot to put it to use.
Regarding the DRM keys, there is a program in the Z3 section that allows you to back them up and restore them after unlocking the bootloader. So if we can utilize the unlock code we don't have to worry about sacrificing the keys.
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It definitely gives the Z3v an unlock code when you select the Z3 and type in your ESN here: http://developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/unlock-yourboot-loader/
I just think we are missing something within our fastboot to put it to use.
Regarding the DRM keys, there is a program in the Z3 section that allows you to back them up and restore them after unlocking the bootloader. So if we can utilize the unlock code we don't have to worry about sacrificing the keys.
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That site will always give you a code, that's not the issue. the carrier has it blocked, and no one has bypassed 'Bootloader unlock allowed: No' in about 3 years, and no one is working on it, because if any serious Dev wants an unlocked boot, they just go and buy a device where it is allowed.
Also, DRM restore does not restore the actual keys, once gone they are gone forever. What that process does is to return SOME of the functions that relied on the keys, and not to 100% working like before unlocking. The trick there is that SOME of the functions just checked if DRM keys were present as opposed to actually checking what they were. Hence spoofing some keys enabled SOME functions to partially work again. Better than nothing but not like having the actual keys there. Once Sony knows this they will tighten up the security. Expect this not to work on future devices.
Again, apologies for this, but this has been discussed ad nauseum for 2 years in various xperia devices and nothing has changed yet...
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That site will always give you a code, that's not the issue. the carrier has it blocked, and no one has bypassed 'Bootloader unlock allowed: No' in about 3 years, and no one is working on it, because if any serious Dev wants an unlocked boot, they just go and buy a device where it is allowed.
Also, DRM restore does not restore the actual keys, once gone they are gone forever. What that process does is to return SOME of the functions that relied on the keys, and not to 100% working like before unlocking. The trick there is that SOME of the functions just checked if DRM keys were present as opposed to actually checking what they were. Hence spoofing some keys enabled SOME functions to partially work again. Better than nothing but not like having the actual keys there. Once Sony knows this they will tighten up the security. Expect this not to work on future devices.
Again, apologies for this, but this has been discussed ad nauseum for 2 years in various xperia devices and nothing has changed yet...
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Thank you for clearing all of that up. This is my first Xperia device, so I'm still learning the ins and outs.
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Thank you for clearing all of that up. This is my first Xperia device, so I'm still learning the ins and outs.
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No worries Everyone has to learn about new devices.... I will be out of my depth I ever leave Sony.
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For us with currently unlockable bootloaders (branded phones), will removing the sim-lock give us the option to unlock the bootloader?
No
That was a definitive answer. Strange, cause I know people with unlockable bootloaders in their Arcs and Rays have managed to unlock them.
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We just have to wait for a dev to crack it
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That was a definitive answer. Strange, cause I know people with unlockable bootloaders in their Arcs and Rays have managed to unlock them.
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I can confirm, O2 UK unlock code does not alter the bootloader status
Slightly worried about getting the phone from Rogers here. Hopefully the Sony store will have a working unit so I can enter the command into the dialer to see if I can easily unlock it or not.
Daymmm, this is hard to hear lol...
am i right in saying that we cant root our phones without unlocking the bootloader first?
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Daymmm, this is hard to hear lol...
am i right in saying that we cant root our phones without unlocking the bootloader first?
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Currently there is no way to root without unlocking the bootloader, it will probably come at some point, but not now .
There is no drawback to unlocking your bootloader though, as they will still probably accept your device for warranty, unless you fry your phone with overclocking and such.
But yea, branded phones cant be unlocked at this moment, or well, they haven't figured it out yet. So if you are branded you can't even unlock your bootloader...yet . Give it time, everything will be figured out in time .
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Slightly worried about getting the phone from Rogers here. Hopefully the Sony store will have a working unit so I can enter the command into the dialer to see if I can easily unlock it or not.
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I am under the impression that selling it in the Canadian Sony store means it will not be branded for any carrier, since they'll be offering the phone unlocked. Probably even if they offer it on contract with a carrier like Rogers, it would still be unlocked, but just subsidized with your contract plan.
edit: They did say that the phone is exclusively with the Sony Store in Canada, so you can't get it straight from Rogers anyways, so no worries!
If there is brand in rogers, I am pretty sure they will lock the bootloader just like they did in xperia arc
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Bought mine from the sony store locked to rogers. I can confirm that the bootloader are in fact locked. Bought mine at launch early tuesday morning.(12th)
They currently only sell XpS's locked to rogers. They unfortunately don't sell the unbranded version(/unlocked). They were also surprised by this fact apparently.
BTW the rogers bloatware that came with the device is annoying as hell. If you're going to buy on frim the Sony store in canada. Debranding would be the first thing I would suggest to do. Seeing as rooting or custom roming is out of the question.
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Have to admit that i'm a little disappointed i got my phone as soon as it was released on my neywork.
That was before the information came to light, that branded fw's have their bootloaders locked.
Had i known that BEFORE i took the plunge, i would have upgraded via a third party mobile phone shop.
I am even more disappointed to see custom roms and tweaks coming out, only to find myself unable to go anywhere near them. Grrrr!
I have de-branded my Xps but i still have the bloat-crap on it. Which is now filling the ten whole spaces in my main menu.
I have been checking on here everyday hoping for a root solution and also on the omnius and setool sites but still i am without a solution :-( and my biggest concern of all is...
As most the devs and rom chefs have unlocked bootloaders, that means hardly anyone (if anyone) will be working on a solution. Double :-(
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Kiefels said:
Have to admit that i'm a little disappointed i got my phone as soon as it was released on my neywork.
That was before the information came to light, that branded fw's have their bootloaders locked.
Had i known that BEFORE i took the plunge, i would have upgraded via a third party mobile phone shop.
I am even more disappointed to see custom roms and tweaks coming out, only to find myself unable to go anywhere near them. Grrrr!
I have de-branded my Xps but i still have the bloat-crap on it. Which is now filling the ten whole spaces in my main menu.
I have been checking on here everyday hoping for a root solution and also on the omnius and setool sites but still i am without a solution :-( and my biggest concern of all is...
As most the devs and rom chefs have unlocked bootloaders, that means hardly anyone (if anyone) will be working on a solution. Double :-(
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I hear you bro
Don't worry, it will come
I have faith in this community that something will be figured out. A few weeks ago it wasn't even possible to flash custom kernels and such, and they managed to figure it out. Now that things are flowing nicely, the rom developers have started working on making things again, and maybe there's more things being looked into in terms of rooting.
I've been here since my X1 and the community hasn't let me down yet, I'm confident they will find a way to get a root, and probably (given the speed even a tester CM9 came out) before ICS.
I guess you might have wait for those paid software like setool .... It will be like the same case like xperia arc. Rogers or any branded phone do not allow bootloader unlock.
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My XS was locked to Orange UK 10 minutes back. Bootloader unlockable - No.
Got the code from Orange and phone unlocked to any network now.
Imagine my surprise when I saw this: Bootloader unlockable - Yes
Talk about double bonus
Too bad the phone is going to Sony on Monday for the yellow screen issue.
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My XS was locked to Orange UK 10 minutes back. Bootloader unlockable - No.
Got the code from Orange and phone unlocked to any network now.
Imagine my surprise when I saw this: Bootloader unlockable - Yes
Talk about double bonus
Too bad the phone is going to Sony on Monday for the yellow screen issue.
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Interesting... I'm a bit skeptical though...
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Yeah, I can't take the plunge and use this phone as my daily driver. Not with Timescape (or whatever you call the Sony UI). I want to be able to use AOSP apps. What I hate is when the UI elements creep over when you're using an app (stuff like checkboxes) and it just makes the overall experience feel inconsistant.
I have since buying the phone debranded it and flashed the singpore rom, and it does a good job at eliminating bloatware, but I want to go in deeper and install CM9 whenever that's ready.
The phone does have what looks like the test point connections, I wanted to mess around with them but I didn't have the proper screws to remove the battery cover. Anyone know what the size of the screws are so I can get a screwdriver that fits?
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The phone does have what looks like the test point connections, I wanted to mess around with them but I didn't have the proper screws to remove the battery cover. Anyone know what the size of the screws are so I can get a screwdriver that fits?
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If you could have done the test point process, I'm sure it would already be posted here. It's quite possible there will be some type of testpoint exploit in the future.. But as of now not the case. I wouldnt suggest messing around inside your phone unless your ready to void your warrenty and at least somewhat know what your doing.
Who knows you could be some secret dev-ninja-genius. ...but then again your asking about screwdriver sizes instead of just eyeballing it like most people would do, so I very much doubt that bro.
Just my 2 cents.
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If you could have done the test point process, I'm sure it would already be posted here. It's quite possible there will be some type of testpoint exploit in the future.. But as of now not the case. I wouldnt suggest messing around inside your phone unless your ready to void your warrenty and at least somewhat know what your doing.
Who knows you could be some secret dev-ninja-genius. ...but then again your asking about screwdriver sizes instead of just eyeballing it like most people would do, so I very much doubt that bro.
Just my 2 cents.
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I know you were just trying to be mindfull of what happens to my phone and stuff, but if I "eyeballed" the size what good would it do if I don't have a small enough bit to fit the screw? I was able to remove the frearson screws but am missing the torx.
A test point method is still possible (maybe) but the reason that there are no posts about it is that the software used (Omnius, SEtools, etc) is not yet compatible with the XS.
Im toooo interested too, my phone has bootloader blocked for my phone company, so I cant get root or do anything
Im waiting, I hope too much they find a solution soon !
I see from reading the XDA news articles that Verizon is now allowing the Sony Xperia Play to be unlocked now that is is a discontinued phone. I wonder if there's a chance that Big Red MIGHT allow our phones (and other disco'd phones) to be unlocked.
I don't know if they will go for this but it's worth a shot.
I doubt it. I dont even thing the phone is discontinued yet. I believe I still saw it in the Verizon store last weekend.
EDIT: Although, I dont see it on their website anymore.
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I doubt it. I dont even thing the phone is discontinued yet. I believe I still saw it in the Verizon store last weekend.
EDIT: Although, I dont see it on their website anymore.
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my carrier has dropped the mx2 for new sales and barely support it now they have the razr maxx
Same here for my area.
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Do you think that moto will do that?
They are lots of their phones discontinued and nothing happens, anyway it seems to be that development was gone because of locked boot.
Therr are not many things we can do now!
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Do you think that moto will do that?
They are lots of their phones discontinued and nothing happens, anyway it seems to be that development was gone because of locked boot.
Therr are not many things we can do now!
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severely doubt it they have no reason to when they can make so much money off of new phones. why bother doing anything for old and discontinued phones the only reason that verizon would allow a phone to have an unlockable boot loader is that they cant make money off it and the device manufacturer has bugged the hell out of them to let it happen.
So, there's ANYTHING you can do with the phone once the bootloader is on?
I'm from Venezuela (sorry for the crappy english, trying my best here) and I buy a Unlock Droid x2, and trying up upgrading the Android to something more newer than 2.3.4 the bootloader lock. I was using it for a few days in WIFI with Whatsapp, Skype and Line. Now I can't find ANYTHING on how to bypass that lock.
I just lost my money? In a country with a monetary barricade like this, it's kinda a downer know I just waste 180 bucks just because I try (and fail) upgrade my phone.
I was reading around and find sites that will give you and "unlock" number based on you MEID, is that even work? I'll pay to have my phone unlock, if come to that, but I want to know I can at least do something!
I must add; I just want to be able to enter to the google play, install whatsapp, etc. I DONT WANT ANOTHER CDMA NETWORK ON THE PHONE.
I buy the phone with those opcions; I don't care if I cant send normal txt msjs, if I can at least use the phone!
all you can do in bootloader is flash .sbf recovery files
which model do you have, label under battery says MB870?
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Id love to have my DX2 umlocked... if it was I could use it as a bluetooth audio streamer for example... now it is so bugy it cant do much
Is there a formal request form we can send verizon to free our old devices from bootloader lockdown?
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Hello, I'll receive my Tablet Z today.
I wanna install CM10 to that tabet immediately. Is that possible without loosing warranty? If yes, how?
As I've seen, I have to enter the serial code at Sony's homepage so that they can see it's unlocked and rooted.
As I saw, there's a stable version of CM10 for the pollux.
Thanks in advance!
Some additional information:
Model Number: SGP321
Android Version: 4.1.2
Build-Number: 10.1.1.A.1.253
danyasd said:
Hello, I'll receive my Tablet Z today.
I wanna install CM10 to that tabet immediately. Is that possible without loosing warranty? If yes, how?
As I've seen, I have to enter the serial code at Sony's homepage so that they can see it's unlocked and rooted.
As I saw, there's a stable version of CM10 for the pollux.
Thanks in advance!
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Just because you've submitted the IDID or IMEI to Sony to get the unlock code doesn't mean you've actually unlocked it - so how can Sony tell just from that?
If you do decide to unlock the bootloader, you should try to back up all the DRM keys first. I don't know how - but there is info on this if you search.
I'd also seriously think about whether it's worth doing. I unlocked my bootloader and installed CM10.1 - but I've gone back to stock Sony ROM because at the moment on custom ROMs :
- GPS doesn't work (on wifi only models)
- the touch screen sensitivity problem is not fixed (it is fixed on the latest Sony ROMs).
- I can't really see that much benefit with the custom ROMs at the moment, especially as you would void your warranty
I have the LTE model so the GPS is no problem for me.
The problem is, Sony's customized android runs horrible. chrome is jerky, stucks, and is slow. Also everything else is really not fast. Compared to my CM10.1 running Note II N7100.
One Reason would be, that the WiFi with the stock rom is quite lame. In my bed (4m and 2 thin walls away from the ap) i had WiFi from time to time with a max signal strength of 1 bar. With CM 10.1 i always and immediately got 3-4.
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- GPS doesn't work (on wifi only models)
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Are you sure it works with the LTE version?
danyasd said:
The problem is, Sony's customized android runs horrible. chrome is jerky, stucks, and is slow. Also everything else is really not fast. Compared to my CM10.1 running Note II N7100.
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They say that .307 firmware improves things tremendously. I can't confirm this myself, since I'm still waiting official update to arrive. I'm already contemplating flashing .307 ftf. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2325990
Not sure though if it's going to affect the warranty.
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I'm pretty sure that Sony can't see whether or not the Tablet (or any mobile phone for that matter) is unlocked or not. That's because the unlocking happens at "phone" level and is a programmed setting change that happens. It doesn't require the use of any service that they have access to.
The only company I know of that will generally know if one of their devices are unlocked are Apple because the official unlocking method is done through iTunes and uses their iTunes servers for an update.
@mobileunlocked - in order to unlock, one must submit imei/serial on the Sony website. Are you confusing bootloader unlock with sim unlock?
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@mobileunlocked - in order to unlock, one must submit imei/serial on the Sony website. Are you confusing bootloader unlock with sim unlock?
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My apologies - possibly!
I was speaking of SIM unlocking - maybe I got the wrong end of things from the above??
I came from an s3, flashed it to death, I'm getting withdrawl...
I Understand that unlocking the bootloader on the z1 broke various things.
Like camera (although I believe thats resolved in the latest update) and also the x reality?
Except I've read that unlocking the bootloader on z2 would lead to less quality on my camera?
Is this true?
Also, on z1 and other xperia phones, didn't they manage to enable xreality even without locked bootloader?
So, my question is simply this: without mentioning warranty
What do I lose by unlocking my bootloader, and anything thats lost could potentially get restored unofficially?
and could someone also interested in unlocking the bootloader, take some pictures before and after the unlock... please?
Things that are lost after unlock
DRM Keys
Warranty
Things that break:
X-Reality
OTA Update/any kind of update through sony pc companion or update service
Things that change:
All of the above
Updating and stuff , or anything at all. Just ask
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Things that are lost after unlock
DRM Keys
Warranty
Things that break:
X-Reality
OTA Update/any kind of update through sony pc companion or update service
Things that change:
All of the above
Updating and stuff , or anything at all. Just ask
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Official Sony response:
Dear Jacek,
Thank you for contacting Sony Xperia™ Online Support.
In regards to the email that we receive from you about what you loose when you unlock the bootloader, we can tell you that the features that the phone has intergated you are able to keep them like the one that you mentioned. We are sorry for any incovenience this may cause. Thank you for been part of the Sony Xperia™ Family.
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I mentioned X-Reality and BIONZ. I don't know how reliable this answer is... Seems quite vague.
Their reply just says nothing is lost in fancy talk
I think x-reality engine stops but i cant test right now
I dont even have a rom installed
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Their reply just says nothing is lost in fancy talk
I think x-reality engine stops but i cant test right now
I dont even have a rom installed
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Sure, keep us posted.
Thanks for the replies guys.
So it seems nothing is lost...
Ota isn't an issue since.. Well we'll be flashing tweaks anyway.
X reality and camera is the thing I was most worried about and their email reply seems to confirm they're preserved.
So what are the drm keys for!!?
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Keys are important for Sony's special offers and warranty.
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So no keys means no lounge offers... Not sure I'd miss it too much tbh.
What about ps4 connectivity and other Sony exclusive things? Anyone?
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Ps3 controller connection works fine, even throwing music to a ps3 and 4 works fine with a UBL (unlocked bootloader)
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Ps3 controller connection works fine, even throwing music to a ps3 and 4 works fine with a UBL (unlocked bootloader)
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thanks for testing that, i heard there was ps4 camera connectivity.
For example: using playroom, draw on phone, the object comes to life on your camera ps4 screen and can be interacted with.
Seems a petty thing to ask but I just want the full lowdown on whats lost via unlock, this seems to be a sony exclusive z2 and z2tab feature so I'm wondering.. do drm keys affect ps4 interactivity in that way?
My XReality and "offers" are working just fine. I also updated to 17.1.A.2.55 yesterday through companion...
I was thinking about this the other day, if the drm keys (ta folder) are exclusive to each handset and sony themselves provide key for bootloader unlock, wouldnt sony be able to provide the folder if we supplied the serial number, imei etc. Obviously i'd be better off asking sony, just wondered what others thought? I can't see any reason why they wouldnt be able to, but can maybe understand why they may not want to
@shollywood...
You're rooted? If so, is the walkman app downloading music info? That seemed to be the other thing people mentioned might break
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shollywood said:
My XReality and "offers" are working just fine. I also updated to 17.1.A.2.55 yesterday through companion...
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What exactly are these "offers" if I may ask? Also, does xreality even make a difference?
Can someone confirm that nothing important (except the warranty) is lost after unlocking bootloader ?
I dont't mind OTA updates and special offers.
If X-Reality, OTA updates and Some Xperia Market apps are not important then unlocking your bootloader is a big plus
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If X-Reality, OTA updates and Some Xperia Market apps are not important then unlocking your bootloader is a big plus
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Is xreality lost ??
Seems so... But there's been talk on z1 forum about reenabling again after root...
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Seems so... But there's been talk on z1 forum about reenabling again after root...
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Ok, I will wait before unlocking my device, I want to know exactly what I'll lose. For the moment, noone seems able to report precisely what is lost... It's really a shame...
Then, maybe a method to backup TA partition will be found sooner or later.
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Ok, I will wait before unlocking my device, I want to know exactly what I'll lose. For the moment, noone seems able to report precisely what is lost... It's really a shame...
Then, maybe a method to backup TA partition will be found sooner or later.
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Yeah I am going to wait and see what happens. Now that more are getting the phone we will recieve more data and hopefully more people can look for exploits. Who knows maybe we don't even need to unlock the bootloader :victory:
I see Z4vs being sold on Ebay from China. No reason to think not legit. High rated sellers. I always wondered where all those unsold phones went.
Well, on my 2nd Z3v now and wondering... Any reason to think I couldn't buy a Z4v, slap my SIM in it and be a happy camper?
Let us know if you ever buy it
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Btw are you ok with no updates and etc?
I will answer my own question. I am currently holding my fully functional z4v. It's the real thing. I put my SIM in and it works fine. All functionality. No issues. It came in a z3 + box and I was about to be really pissed off but lo and behold. It's a z4v. Verizon logo on the back. Works on the network just fine. I will give this a couple of days and report back.
Obviously no ROM updates from VZW. So I am not going to go nuts with it. Not even gonna try to root it.
I will connect it to the Sony Xperia restore app to see if it even knows what it is.
So, yes. Z4vs are out there. Apparently they're all in China. I never believed they just destroyed them all.
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I will answer my own question. I am currently holding my fully functional z4v. It's the real thing. I put my SIM in and it works fine. All functionality. No issues. It came in a z3 + box and I was about to be really pissed off but lo and behold. It's a z4v. Verizon logo on the back. Works on the network just fine. I will give this a couple of days and report back.
Obviously no ROM updates from VZW. So I am not going to go nuts with it. Not even gonna try to root it.
I will connect it to the Sony Xperia restore app to see if it even knows what it is.
So, yes. Z4vs are out there. Apparently they're all in China. I never believed they just destroyed them all.
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Wow! That is awesome! I'm kind of surprised Verizon allows that device to activate.
I'm still running my Z3v but after three years it's starting to fall apart literally. It would be fun to "upgrade" to the Z4v if I could get my hands on one.
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I have a Z4V as well. Sony Dev site gives me a valid bootloader unlock code, however verizon has a bootloader unlock allowed=NO in place. I have spoken with verizon tech folks (Not low level people, but high level staff) they don't care about the phone at all. I bet if I knew what to ask for, I could get them to change unlock allowed from NO to YES...I believe that that can be done from the keypad.
I have managed to get root for 15 seconds at a time with (gasp) Kingroot, however RIC kicks in and reboots the phone and I back to square one.
Also, in it's stock for, I am unable to mount a MicroSD card, though SIM cards are fine.
I'd love to get the stock firmware and the ability to root. If I could get into the phone I could pull the stock partitions myself.
In order to use other ROMS, we would need the driver for the CDMA radio and the UHD Display. Easy enough to swap those out.
Anyone have any ideas??
BTW: I have working Fastboot and ADB. Flashtool does not recognize the phone nor do any of the "standard" root exploits work.
Rick
BlackIce
Any updates on getting z4v activated on Verizon network? Curious myself.
My Z4v is online with verizon, that was no problem at all. The issues I am having relate to (of course) locked bootloader and the lack of a STOCK ROM ftf file to experiment with. Since dm-verity and ric are still in place, root isn't possible (that I know of).
Great device, would love to experiment with it!
Rick
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Any updates on getting z4v activated on Verizon network? Curious myself.
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I recently got one as well (not from China, but some kind of a test device). Works on Verizon just fine, though right after activation it had been showing an icon saying, "Activation in progress, don't turn off the device" for >1 hour until I restarted it. The only issue I have now (besides being stuck with an old firmware) is with the mic - people on the other side of the call complain they can barely make out what I'm saying. No such complaints with a headset, so I just use that for now. Not sure if it's something that could be fixed with software - I'm in the same position as blackice000 on that front.
dskrvk,
I am waiting on a guy from Vietnam that believes he has the STOCK ROM for the Z4V (ftf format) If I had that, I believe we can adapt many of the newer ROMS and improvements while keeping the device specific pieces intact. Hell, I would keep 5.0.2 if i had root. Really like Titanium backup!
If you have any leads...let me know. I know this device is a rarity, but it's almost exactly what i wanted to replace my aging Razr M (albeit a bit larger than i would have liked.)
Rick,
BlackIce
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I recently got one as well (not from China, but some kind of a test device). Works on Verizon just fine, though right after activation it had been showing an icon saying, "Activation in progress, don't turn off the device" for >1 hour until I restarted it. The only issue I have now (besides being stuck with an old firmware) is with the mic - people on the other side of the call complain they can barely make out what I'm saying. No such complaints with a headset, so I just use that for now. Not sure if it's something that could be fixed with software - I'm in the same position as blackice000 on that front.
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