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For us with currently unlockable bootloaders (branded phones), will removing the sim-lock give us the option to unlock the bootloader?
No
That was a definitive answer. Strange, cause I know people with unlockable bootloaders in their Arcs and Rays have managed to unlock them.
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We just have to wait for a dev to crack it
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That was a definitive answer. Strange, cause I know people with unlockable bootloaders in their Arcs and Rays have managed to unlock them.
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I can confirm, O2 UK unlock code does not alter the bootloader status
Slightly worried about getting the phone from Rogers here. Hopefully the Sony store will have a working unit so I can enter the command into the dialer to see if I can easily unlock it or not.
Daymmm, this is hard to hear lol...
am i right in saying that we cant root our phones without unlocking the bootloader first?
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Daymmm, this is hard to hear lol...
am i right in saying that we cant root our phones without unlocking the bootloader first?
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Currently there is no way to root without unlocking the bootloader, it will probably come at some point, but not now .
There is no drawback to unlocking your bootloader though, as they will still probably accept your device for warranty, unless you fry your phone with overclocking and such.
But yea, branded phones cant be unlocked at this moment, or well, they haven't figured it out yet. So if you are branded you can't even unlock your bootloader...yet . Give it time, everything will be figured out in time .
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Slightly worried about getting the phone from Rogers here. Hopefully the Sony store will have a working unit so I can enter the command into the dialer to see if I can easily unlock it or not.
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I am under the impression that selling it in the Canadian Sony store means it will not be branded for any carrier, since they'll be offering the phone unlocked. Probably even if they offer it on contract with a carrier like Rogers, it would still be unlocked, but just subsidized with your contract plan.
edit: They did say that the phone is exclusively with the Sony Store in Canada, so you can't get it straight from Rogers anyways, so no worries!
If there is brand in rogers, I am pretty sure they will lock the bootloader just like they did in xperia arc
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Bought mine from the sony store locked to rogers. I can confirm that the bootloader are in fact locked. Bought mine at launch early tuesday morning.(12th)
They currently only sell XpS's locked to rogers. They unfortunately don't sell the unbranded version(/unlocked). They were also surprised by this fact apparently.
BTW the rogers bloatware that came with the device is annoying as hell. If you're going to buy on frim the Sony store in canada. Debranding would be the first thing I would suggest to do. Seeing as rooting or custom roming is out of the question.
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Have to admit that i'm a little disappointed i got my phone as soon as it was released on my neywork.
That was before the information came to light, that branded fw's have their bootloaders locked.
Had i known that BEFORE i took the plunge, i would have upgraded via a third party mobile phone shop.
I am even more disappointed to see custom roms and tweaks coming out, only to find myself unable to go anywhere near them. Grrrr!
I have de-branded my Xps but i still have the bloat-crap on it. Which is now filling the ten whole spaces in my main menu.
I have been checking on here everyday hoping for a root solution and also on the omnius and setool sites but still i am without a solution :-( and my biggest concern of all is...
As most the devs and rom chefs have unlocked bootloaders, that means hardly anyone (if anyone) will be working on a solution. Double :-(
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Kiefels said:
Have to admit that i'm a little disappointed i got my phone as soon as it was released on my neywork.
That was before the information came to light, that branded fw's have their bootloaders locked.
Had i known that BEFORE i took the plunge, i would have upgraded via a third party mobile phone shop.
I am even more disappointed to see custom roms and tweaks coming out, only to find myself unable to go anywhere near them. Grrrr!
I have de-branded my Xps but i still have the bloat-crap on it. Which is now filling the ten whole spaces in my main menu.
I have been checking on here everyday hoping for a root solution and also on the omnius and setool sites but still i am without a solution :-( and my biggest concern of all is...
As most the devs and rom chefs have unlocked bootloaders, that means hardly anyone (if anyone) will be working on a solution. Double :-(
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I hear you bro
Don't worry, it will come
I have faith in this community that something will be figured out. A few weeks ago it wasn't even possible to flash custom kernels and such, and they managed to figure it out. Now that things are flowing nicely, the rom developers have started working on making things again, and maybe there's more things being looked into in terms of rooting.
I've been here since my X1 and the community hasn't let me down yet, I'm confident they will find a way to get a root, and probably (given the speed even a tester CM9 came out) before ICS.
I guess you might have wait for those paid software like setool .... It will be like the same case like xperia arc. Rogers or any branded phone do not allow bootloader unlock.
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My XS was locked to Orange UK 10 minutes back. Bootloader unlockable - No.
Got the code from Orange and phone unlocked to any network now.
Imagine my surprise when I saw this: Bootloader unlockable - Yes
Talk about double bonus
Too bad the phone is going to Sony on Monday for the yellow screen issue.
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My XS was locked to Orange UK 10 minutes back. Bootloader unlockable - No.
Got the code from Orange and phone unlocked to any network now.
Imagine my surprise when I saw this: Bootloader unlockable - Yes
Talk about double bonus
Too bad the phone is going to Sony on Monday for the yellow screen issue.
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Interesting... I'm a bit skeptical though...
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Yeah, I can't take the plunge and use this phone as my daily driver. Not with Timescape (or whatever you call the Sony UI). I want to be able to use AOSP apps. What I hate is when the UI elements creep over when you're using an app (stuff like checkboxes) and it just makes the overall experience feel inconsistant.
I have since buying the phone debranded it and flashed the singpore rom, and it does a good job at eliminating bloatware, but I want to go in deeper and install CM9 whenever that's ready.
The phone does have what looks like the test point connections, I wanted to mess around with them but I didn't have the proper screws to remove the battery cover. Anyone know what the size of the screws are so I can get a screwdriver that fits?
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The phone does have what looks like the test point connections, I wanted to mess around with them but I didn't have the proper screws to remove the battery cover. Anyone know what the size of the screws are so I can get a screwdriver that fits?
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If you could have done the test point process, I'm sure it would already be posted here. It's quite possible there will be some type of testpoint exploit in the future.. But as of now not the case. I wouldnt suggest messing around inside your phone unless your ready to void your warrenty and at least somewhat know what your doing.
Who knows you could be some secret dev-ninja-genius. ...but then again your asking about screwdriver sizes instead of just eyeballing it like most people would do, so I very much doubt that bro.
Just my 2 cents.
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If you could have done the test point process, I'm sure it would already be posted here. It's quite possible there will be some type of testpoint exploit in the future.. But as of now not the case. I wouldnt suggest messing around inside your phone unless your ready to void your warrenty and at least somewhat know what your doing.
Who knows you could be some secret dev-ninja-genius. ...but then again your asking about screwdriver sizes instead of just eyeballing it like most people would do, so I very much doubt that bro.
Just my 2 cents.
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I know you were just trying to be mindfull of what happens to my phone and stuff, but if I "eyeballed" the size what good would it do if I don't have a small enough bit to fit the screw? I was able to remove the frearson screws but am missing the torx.
A test point method is still possible (maybe) but the reason that there are no posts about it is that the software used (Omnius, SEtools, etc) is not yet compatible with the XS.
Im toooo interested too, my phone has bootloader blocked for my phone company, so I cant get root or do anything
Im waiting, I hope too much they find a solution soon !
I came from an s3, flashed it to death, I'm getting withdrawl...
I Understand that unlocking the bootloader on the z1 broke various things.
Like camera (although I believe thats resolved in the latest update) and also the x reality?
Except I've read that unlocking the bootloader on z2 would lead to less quality on my camera?
Is this true?
Also, on z1 and other xperia phones, didn't they manage to enable xreality even without locked bootloader?
So, my question is simply this: without mentioning warranty
What do I lose by unlocking my bootloader, and anything thats lost could potentially get restored unofficially?
and could someone also interested in unlocking the bootloader, take some pictures before and after the unlock... please?
Things that are lost after unlock
DRM Keys
Warranty
Things that break:
X-Reality
OTA Update/any kind of update through sony pc companion or update service
Things that change:
All of the above
Updating and stuff , or anything at all. Just ask
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Things that are lost after unlock
DRM Keys
Warranty
Things that break:
X-Reality
OTA Update/any kind of update through sony pc companion or update service
Things that change:
All of the above
Updating and stuff , or anything at all. Just ask
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Official Sony response:
Dear Jacek,
Thank you for contacting Sony Xperia™ Online Support.
In regards to the email that we receive from you about what you loose when you unlock the bootloader, we can tell you that the features that the phone has intergated you are able to keep them like the one that you mentioned. We are sorry for any incovenience this may cause. Thank you for been part of the Sony Xperia™ Family.
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I mentioned X-Reality and BIONZ. I don't know how reliable this answer is... Seems quite vague.
Their reply just says nothing is lost in fancy talk
I think x-reality engine stops but i cant test right now
I dont even have a rom installed
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Their reply just says nothing is lost in fancy talk
I think x-reality engine stops but i cant test right now
I dont even have a rom installed
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Sure, keep us posted.
Thanks for the replies guys.
So it seems nothing is lost...
Ota isn't an issue since.. Well we'll be flashing tweaks anyway.
X reality and camera is the thing I was most worried about and their email reply seems to confirm they're preserved.
So what are the drm keys for!!?
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Keys are important for Sony's special offers and warranty.
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So no keys means no lounge offers... Not sure I'd miss it too much tbh.
What about ps4 connectivity and other Sony exclusive things? Anyone?
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Ps3 controller connection works fine, even throwing music to a ps3 and 4 works fine with a UBL (unlocked bootloader)
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Ps3 controller connection works fine, even throwing music to a ps3 and 4 works fine with a UBL (unlocked bootloader)
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thanks for testing that, i heard there was ps4 camera connectivity.
For example: using playroom, draw on phone, the object comes to life on your camera ps4 screen and can be interacted with.
Seems a petty thing to ask but I just want the full lowdown on whats lost via unlock, this seems to be a sony exclusive z2 and z2tab feature so I'm wondering.. do drm keys affect ps4 interactivity in that way?
My XReality and "offers" are working just fine. I also updated to 17.1.A.2.55 yesterday through companion...
I was thinking about this the other day, if the drm keys (ta folder) are exclusive to each handset and sony themselves provide key for bootloader unlock, wouldnt sony be able to provide the folder if we supplied the serial number, imei etc. Obviously i'd be better off asking sony, just wondered what others thought? I can't see any reason why they wouldnt be able to, but can maybe understand why they may not want to
@shollywood...
You're rooted? If so, is the walkman app downloading music info? That seemed to be the other thing people mentioned might break
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shollywood said:
My XReality and "offers" are working just fine. I also updated to 17.1.A.2.55 yesterday through companion...
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What exactly are these "offers" if I may ask? Also, does xreality even make a difference?
Can someone confirm that nothing important (except the warranty) is lost after unlocking bootloader ?
I dont't mind OTA updates and special offers.
If X-Reality, OTA updates and Some Xperia Market apps are not important then unlocking your bootloader is a big plus
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If X-Reality, OTA updates and Some Xperia Market apps are not important then unlocking your bootloader is a big plus
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Is xreality lost ??
Seems so... But there's been talk on z1 forum about reenabling again after root...
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Seems so... But there's been talk on z1 forum about reenabling again after root...
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Ok, I will wait before unlocking my device, I want to know exactly what I'll lose. For the moment, noone seems able to report precisely what is lost... It's really a shame...
Then, maybe a method to backup TA partition will be found sooner or later.
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Ok, I will wait before unlocking my device, I want to know exactly what I'll lose. For the moment, noone seems able to report precisely what is lost... It's really a shame...
Then, maybe a method to backup TA partition will be found sooner or later.
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Yeah I am going to wait and see what happens. Now that more are getting the phone we will recieve more data and hopefully more people can look for exploits. Who knows maybe we don't even need to unlock the bootloader :victory:
Ok so I have 3 major problem with this phone, I ordered this phone online and I don't think its a US version since I have a bunch of Chinese/Japanese apps...
first problem that really bugs me is that sometimes the signal disconnects randomly and I have to do a manual search (Settings/more/mobile network setting/network operators) to get it to work. I have t mobile all my settings are set to tmobile ... I don't know because its a foreign phone the radios aren't meant to work with us careers or the problem is from something else ...
Second problem is (this only happened to me twice) over the night my battery drains out.
Third problem is sleep of death, after the last update it only happened once but I want to know if anyone else is experiencing this.
over all I think this phone has good quality built but the software optimization is as good as a beta!
Do you have any ideas? Is there any US version or close to US version android system for this phone that I can install without rooting? Something with asian apps
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Ok so I have 3 major problem with this phone, I ordered this phone online and I don't think its a US version since I have a bunch of Chinese/Japanese apps...
first problem that really bugs me is that sometimes the signal disconnects randomly and I have to do a manual search (Settings/more/mobile network setting/network operators) to get it to work. I have t mobile all my settings are set to tmobile ... I don't know because its a foreign phone the radios aren't meant to work with us careers or the problem is from something else ...
Second problem is (this only happened to me twice) over the night my battery drains out.
Third problem is sleep of death, after the last update it only happened once but I want to know if anyone else is experiencing this.
over all I think this phone has good quality built but the software optimization is as good as a beta!
Do you have any ideas? Is there any US version or close to US version android system for this phone that I can install without rooting? Something with asian apps
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I have this phone since yesterday but I can already tell you, that from what I know, there is no official version for the US market, yet...
I read something about a version comming up for Verizon I think. Anyways, this could explain your network connection problems. I would imagine that Z2 should offer a world wide network support, but perhaps it is not in this case.
The network problems could explain also battery drain. If the signal is bad or the phone keeps searching for network, the battery will die rapidly.
What I can recommend is to try and run the repair phone option from Sony Suite that you install on your pc or mac. It will wipe and reset your phone but also update firmware, if applicable.
If this does not help, then you will either have to return the phone or wait for some US firmware including US modem versions for the phone.
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Ok so I have 3 major problem with this phone, I ordered this phone online and I don't think its a US version since I have a bunch of Chinese/Japanese apps...
first problem that really bugs me is that sometimes the signal disconnects randomly and I have to do a manual search (Settings/more/mobile network setting/network operators) to get it to work. I have t mobile all my settings are set to tmobile ... I don't know because its a foreign phone the radios aren't meant to work with us careers or the problem is from something else ...
Second problem is (this only happened to me twice) over the night my battery drains out.
Third problem is sleep of death, after the last update it only happened once but I want to know if anyone else is experiencing this.
over all I think this phone has good quality built but the software optimization is as good as a beta!
Do you have any ideas? Is there any US version or close to US version android system for this phone that I can install without rooting? Something with asian apps
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The first problem can be solved by flashing with flashtools, choose which country u like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2759934
Hope the second and third solved by this
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The first problem can be solved by flashing with flashtools, choose which country u like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2759934
Hope the second and third solved by this
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It doesn't have united states and also i don't want to root
Is there a way to flash a legit firmware without root?
No root required to flash using flashtool.
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It doesn't have united states and also i don't want to root
Is there a way to flash a legit firmware without root?
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Xperia z2 is not yet released in USA try any other country
Root not required for flashing
styguan said:
Xperia z2 is not yet released in USA try any other country
Root not required for flashing
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What do you recommend for T Mobile USA? Am I gonna lose all my data?
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What do you recommend for T Mobile USA? Am I gonna lose all my data?
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First of all - check did you got Sony Z2 or Chinese copy.
Try to check IMEI with Sony.
Second...
Z2 is quad bend device and it'll work on all continents but if you got Chinese only version (apparently it's a bit bigger, only few mm, I saw that info in screen protectors thread) then you are screwed.
I had many signal problems when I flashed German, UK, Italy....any other firmware except t-mobile fw from my country.
I had same problems, no 4g, signal lost every few minutes and battery drain (device is trying to connect to network but it can't and that's killing battery).
What you can do is (!first check do you have original Z2! - Otherwise you could brick your device)
Download few firmwares and try...
It would be best if you could find Global Generic firmware but I'm not sure there is Global for Z2.
Wipe all!
That's important to get rid of all Chinese apps and letters.
Yes, you'll lose data but who cares...
You need working device, right?
Not device with your data which cannot connect to network...
Test one fw by one and you'll find what's best for your region.
You don't have to root device, just enable develiper menu in settings and enable usb debugging.
Download flashtool (v16) and flash firmware by firmware until you find the best for you.
There's a big chance LTE won't work on those fw...
You'll have to wait for US firmware because of baseband files...
Battery will be OK after that..
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What do you recommend for T Mobile USA? Am I gonna lose all my data?
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try the best which suits you ,if u go for india there are some pre-installed apps which u may like or not
i did not tried any new FIRMWARES ,try countries like uk because english is the standard there
in flash tools uncheck wipe data so your old data will not be lost , but installing fresh firmware with wipe is best
what is sleep of death
if its something like you cannot wake up your phone for example when you recieve a whatsapp message and cannot open screen I have the same ****ty thing
I installed Canada version ... I'm gonna test it for a day
Thank you all for your help guys
Alright so my reception problem is solved but ever since i flashed canadian version my battery life became shorter...
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Alright so my reception problem is solved but ever since i flashed canadian version my battery life became shorter...
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Did u find any background running apps from Canada version this may decrease ur battery
I do try to switch of lte which eats battery
Try to find in Canada firmware for does anybody has the same problem
I have an extremely poor reception in Canada. I bought my Z2 in Hong Kong and it is on 17.1.1.A.0.402. So does flashing to 17.1.A.2.55 fix this reception issue?
Flashing no firmware will fix your reception issue
Infact most of the issues the Z2 has is caused by google due to Z2 running 4.4.2, 4.4.2 has alot of base module issues and they are not present in 4.4.3 or 4.4.4
Reception issues seem to be common globaly, this apears to be 402 firmware, 55 and 69 both have no issues to do with mobile reception, or at least to me i haven't seen any
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Thanks Envious, I flashed to 17.1.A.2.55 and I get way better reception now! Now this is the phone I want to keep
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Thanks Envious, I flashed to 17.1.A.2.55 and I get way better reception now! Now this is the phone I want to keep
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Whenever sony releases 4.4.3/4.4.4 you should have alot less issues
4.4.2 android we all know its self has some issues
Im quite sure 402 firmware its self is generally buggy, not so in noticable ways but underthe system you could say
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I was used to having Lte and being able to be on a call and use Internet. I thought all high end phones were capable of it so now I'm kinda annoyed this phone can't. Is 5.0 supposed to fix this
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Your two options are here:
1. Now with root, there's possibility to unlocking bootloader. With unlocked bootloader, you can do custom rom. With custom rom, that's where you can freely do the options of anything whoever desires to do what, I'm guessing.
2. Continue to wait for lollipop from Verizon. Really stupid that T-Mobile has confirmed two lollipop updates but Verizon is no news.
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Sign up for a Google voice number and use Google hangouts dialer which works on a data connection or WiFi.
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I use it at home since my cellular service is weak. When someone calls my cell it forwards to my Google voice # after a few rings through my wifi on my phone, tablet, pc or any other device that works with GV.
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1. Now with root, there's possibility to unlocking bootloader.
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Being able to root does not mean you can unlock the bootloader. The bootloader on this variant is locked and cannot be unlocked.
Oh I know that. Eventually though, this will be unlocked. Whenever someone is able to get the unlock keys from Sony.
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Oh I know that. Eventually though, this will be unlocked. Whenever someone is able to get the unlock keys from Sony.
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I do not think so. No Sony phone has had an unofficial bootloader unlock since the Xperia Neo, released in 2011 (iirc) as no dev is working on an unofficial unlock because Sony allows people to unlock on some devices. Why try and unlock the caged, barred, alarmed window when they give you the key to the front door?
It is a very smart move from Sony as all the incentive to find an unofficial unlock is gone. I am not saying it wont happen, but going off past experience its not just that it is very difficult, its just that no one is even trying....
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Your two options are here:
1. Now with root, there's possibility to unlocking bootloader. With unlocked bootloader, you can do custom rom. With custom rom, that's where you can freely do the options of anything whoever desires to do what, I'm guessing.
2. Continue to wait for lollipop from Verizon. Really stupid that T-Mobile has confirmed two lollipop updates but Verizon is no news.
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No VoLTE until VZW flips the switch for this devices. Even a Lollipop update is no guarantee. The HTC One M8 is on 5.0.1 and still has no VoLTE, even those that are S-Off, unlocked, rooted, ROM'd yadda yadda
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I do not think so. No Sony phone has had an unofficial bootloader unlock since the Xperia Neo, released in 2011 (iirc) as no dev is working on an unofficial unlock because Sony allows people to unlock on some devices. Why try and unlock the caged, barred, alarmed window when they give you the key to the front door?
It is a very smart move from Sony as all the incentive to find an unofficial unlock is gone. I am not saying it wont happen, but going off past experience its not just that it is very difficult, its just that no one is even trying....
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The Sony Xperia Z3 is officially unlocked with the only problem that you'll lose the DRM keys that gives the camera special qualities. And we've achieved root so far, so it's not that no one is trying, it's just security is much tighter.
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No VoLTE until VZW flips the switch for this devices. Even a Lollipop update is no guarantee. The HTC One M8 is on 5.0.1 and still has no VoLTE, even those that are S-Off, unlocked, rooted, ROM'd yadda yadda
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Erhm, I'd like to know where you know the HTC One M8 is lacking simultaneous voice and data. My brother has one rooted, unlocked, and all that and he can make calls while browsing. So wherever you heard that from... better check your resources again.
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The Sony Xperia Z3 is officially unlocked with the only problem that you'll lose the DRM keys that gives the camera special qualities. And we've achieved root so far, so it's not that no one is trying, it's just security is much tighter.
Erhm, I'd like to know where you know the HTC One M8 is lacking simultaneous voice and data. My brother has one rooted, unlocked, and all that and he can make calls while browsing. So wherever you heard that from... better check your resources again.
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I think the M8 always had simultaneous voice and data, that's not VoLTE, I should ,have called it "Enhanced 4G" although it's part of it for the newest devices. The simultaneous voice/data will be part of the "enhanced 4G" for the newest devices, and, AFAIK, there's no way to hack around that. The other parts of Enhanced 4G, i.e. HD calling and video calling are still not available for the M8, even for those that have been able to get the toggle activated.
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I think the M8 always had simultaneous voice and data, that's not VoLTE, I should ,have called it "Enhanced 4G" although it's part of it for the newest devices. The simultaneous voice/data will be part of the "enhanced 4G" for the newest devices, and, AFAIK, there's no way to hack around that. The other parts of Enhanced 4G, i.e. HD calling and video calling are still not available for the M8, even for those that have been able to get the toggle activated.
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Lol, the only part I'm still really concerned about is the basic necessity function for simultaneous voice and data. I don't see what significant differences enhanced calling or whatnot will make as long as either person on each other's line can hear perfectly while also being able to browse data that can be important for the moment. It's basically the definition of a "smartphone".
This really makes me rethink my purchase, today I needed to review an email while on the phone with a designer and could not
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This really makes me rethink my purchase, today I needed to review an email while on the phone with a designer and could not
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Your best chance of making up for that is to be connected to wi-fi while on a call.
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The Sony Xperia Z3 is officially unlocked with the only problem that you'll lose the DRM keys that gives the camera special qualities. And we've achieved root so far, so it's not that no one is trying, it's just security is much tighter.
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I know. All xperia Phones since 2012 have been able to be officially unlocked unless the carrier has blocked it. For the Z3 v it has been blocked. Also, the difference between gaining root & and unlocking the boot is massive, Do not expect to get unlocked boots on the Z3 v, There has not even been a working kexec on locked devices for a few years.
Anyway, apologies for the hijack of the thread. My post are for info only
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Lol, the only part I'm still really concerned about is the basic necessity function for simultaneous voice and data. I don't see what significant differences enhanced calling or whatnot will make as long as either person on each other's line can hear perfectly while also being able to browse data that can be important for the moment. It's basically the definition of a "smartphone".
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The m8 had voice and data to start with, which means hardware and drivers to support it. Our phone, unfortunately, dies not have that capability and will only be able to do voice and data when volte is implemented. Custom Rom can be installed with locked bootloaders with the appropriate recovery, but not kernel
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I know. All xperia Phones since 2012 have been able to be officially unlocked unless the carrier has blocked it. For the Z3 v it has been blocked. Also, the difference between gaining root & and unlocking the boot is massive, Do not expect to get unlocked boots on the Z3 v, There has not even been a working kexec on locked devices for a few years.
Anyway, apologies for the hijack of the thread. My post are for info only
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It definitely gives the Z3v an unlock code when you select the Z3 and type in your ESN here: http://developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/unlock-yourboot-loader/
I just think we are missing something within our fastboot to put it to use.
Regarding the DRM keys, there is a program in the Z3 section that allows you to back them up and restore them after unlocking the bootloader. So if we can utilize the unlock code we don't have to worry about sacrificing the keys.
jal3223 said:
It definitely gives the Z3v an unlock code when you select the Z3 and type in your ESN here: http://developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/unlock-yourboot-loader/
I just think we are missing something within our fastboot to put it to use.
Regarding the DRM keys, there is a program in the Z3 section that allows you to back them up and restore them after unlocking the bootloader. So if we can utilize the unlock code we don't have to worry about sacrificing the keys.
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That site will always give you a code, that's not the issue. the carrier has it blocked, and no one has bypassed 'Bootloader unlock allowed: No' in about 3 years, and no one is working on it, because if any serious Dev wants an unlocked boot, they just go and buy a device where it is allowed.
Also, DRM restore does not restore the actual keys, once gone they are gone forever. What that process does is to return SOME of the functions that relied on the keys, and not to 100% working like before unlocking. The trick there is that SOME of the functions just checked if DRM keys were present as opposed to actually checking what they were. Hence spoofing some keys enabled SOME functions to partially work again. Better than nothing but not like having the actual keys there. Once Sony knows this they will tighten up the security. Expect this not to work on future devices.
Again, apologies for this, but this has been discussed ad nauseum for 2 years in various xperia devices and nothing has changed yet...
gregbradley said:
That site will always give you a code, that's not the issue. the carrier has it blocked, and no one has bypassed 'Bootloader unlock allowed: No' in about 3 years, and no one is working on it, because if any serious Dev wants an unlocked boot, they just go and buy a device where it is allowed.
Also, DRM restore does not restore the actual keys, once gone they are gone forever. What that process does is to return SOME of the functions that relied on the keys, and not to 100% working like before unlocking. The trick there is that SOME of the functions just checked if DRM keys were present as opposed to actually checking what they were. Hence spoofing some keys enabled SOME functions to partially work again. Better than nothing but not like having the actual keys there. Once Sony knows this they will tighten up the security. Expect this not to work on future devices.
Again, apologies for this, but this has been discussed ad nauseum for 2 years in various xperia devices and nothing has changed yet...
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Thank you for clearing all of that up. This is my first Xperia device, so I'm still learning the ins and outs.
jal3223 said:
Thank you for clearing all of that up. This is my first Xperia device, so I'm still learning the ins and outs.
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No worries Everyone has to learn about new devices.... I will be out of my depth I ever leave Sony.
We got the information by early November, but still nothing happened. Anyone with some information when this is gonna be released?
There was new update for japanese version 2 days ago...not sure if its patch or new version https://xpericheck.com/SOG09/24936126
I ve got US 62 model and the only thing i ve got so far is security update.
Hope they fix wifi because its awfull at least on mine.
nope not even a new security patch
that's Sony guy's
I have the Xperia 5 IV XQ-CQ72 and i got update notification but still on Android 12. no 13 yet.
I have Xperia 5 IV XQ-CQ72 too. No 13 either, but I just bought the phone (Black Friday acquisition). I'm new to Sony family, previously I had a few Vivo phones. So far I'm impressed. It's amazing how Japanese squeeze such a lot of electronics into a small phone, even a 5Ah battery, and everything works flawlessly.
I'm glad that I don't experience two issues usually mentioned in phone reviews - overheating and unreliable fingerprint.
I don't have a chance to really test the camera, though. But on the first sight it looks more promising than I expected. After all, I came from Vivo.
piskr said:
I have Xperia 5 IV XQ-CQ72 too. No 13 either, but I just bought the phone (Black Friday acquisition). I'm new to Sony family, previously I had a few Vivo phones. So far I'm impressed. It's amazing how Japanese squeeze such a lot of electronics into a small phone, even a 5Ah battery, and everything works flawlessly.
I'm glad that I don't experience two issues usually mentioned in phone reviews - overheating and unreliable fingerprint.
I don't have a chance to really test the camera, though. But on the first sight it looks more promising than I expected. After all, I came from Vivo.
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The phone is great, except it kills apps from background too fast. That's a software issue thankfully and can be resolved with a software update.
WalterCool said:
The phone is great, except it kills apps from background too fast. That's a software issue thankfully and can be resolved with a software update.
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I've been chatting with Sony support about this and providing whatever videos they ask for as evidence. Hopefully they address the problem since I've given them logcat dumps demonstrating the issue.
I just got info from Sony support today that one of the issues I've reported should be fixed in the Android 13 release due by the end of next week (Dec 23). I'm in the US with the 62 model.
I just flashed the 64.1.A.0.857 via newflasher ...
Downloaded the firmware via XperiFirm.
Device: XQ-CQ54
Merry Christmas everyone ...
I just dirty flashed 64.1.A.0.857 on a rooted XQ-CQ72. No issues so far
u lost root.?!
DanielMode said:
u lost root.?!
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I did lost Magisk, but you can easily redo it.
k but I'm tired to reset my phone again
WalterCool said:
I did lost Magisk, but you can easily redo it.
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For that matter - since Sony openly lets us unlock the bootloader, OFW updates are a full-go for us and won't impede rooting ability, right?
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For that matter - since Sony openly lets us unlock the bootloader, OFW updates are a full-go for us and won't impede rooting ability, right?
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1.- Only for international devices. Sony doesn't allow bootloader unlock for US devices.
2.- As far I know, modified devices (unlocked bootloader) lose OTA. I had to manually update using Xperiafirm and newflasher
WalterCool said:
1.- Only for international devices. Sony doesn't allow bootloader unlock for US devices.
2.- As far I know, modified devices (unlocked bootloader) lose OTA. I had to manually update using Xperiafirm and newflasher
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By the way, I'm infinitely glad I picked one up in Japan over the US because this scrutiny is ridiculous! That said, I'm not rooted just yet and I'd have to prep a full file (mostly in-phone backup of pics) backup first, so I'm not rooted yet and seems like jumping to 13 first makes the most sense.
That said, I seriously gotta tip my hat to Sony for just allowing us to do entirely as we please with their phones while literally every other brand is cockblocking our freedom. Over the years, I missed having a task killer soooo much to save random background apps slowly tugging at the battery and then all the magisk plugins like ad blockers.