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The only area that users of iDevices can really say their devices are undeniably better is gaming.We all know that,and until recently I have to admit I was kinda jealous.I was almost ready to buy an iPad just to play Infinity Blade.Happily I didn't as things are getting better.
Up until recently,the best-looking and closest to console quality games were Dead Space and Asphalt 6.I mean,Angry Birds are nice for making time pass by on the subway,but that's about it.Asphalt 5,NOVA and Modern Combat 2 were so-so,but not nearly enough.Not to mention that NOVA 2 was a disappointment.Graphics were kinda better than NOVA,but gameplay and controls were seriously lacking.GLU games are also somewhat good at the beginning,but are repetitive,they get boring after a while and seriously,I won't spend 50€ in GLU credits as long as my brain serves me well.
Then Modern Combat 3 came out.This was the game I had been waiting about.Graphics,storyline and gameplay-all were awesome.It was the first title that could really claim it was "console quality".Things have got better since,especially with games by Gameloft and EA.Mass Effect is really great too.But my only complaint now is that all these are REALLY short.I ain't the most hardcore gamer,especially on mobile devices,but I finished Mass Effect the day I downloaded it.MC3 may have online mode but bleh,I don't want to sell my house to pay the data bill.Plus when I'm home I have a PC and a PS3,I won't play on my phone normally.
3 days ago NOVA 3 came out.And...OMFG!This is the best-looking game I've ever seen on a mobile device of any kind.And to tell you the truth,I don't think I remember many PS2 games having this kind of graphics.And its gameplay and controls are vastly improved over NOVA 2.It's much closer to MC3 actually.Plus,even MC3 didn't push the hardware to its limits.My Desire HD had no problems playing it with a pretty playable gameplay-it wasn't too noticeable,just not 100% smooth.Not to mention the Galaxy S 2,it didn't break a sweat.But with NOVA 3 things are different.My GS2 struggles to play it properly sometimes.It only plays perfectly if I overclock the GPU,but then it overheats a bit.I won't even bother playing in on the Desire HD and will be waiting for my GS3 to fully enjoy the game in all its glory.I haven't finished it yet-that's a good sign,although I haven't played too much these days.Still,it seems it has some duration and the storyline unfolds nicely.
NOVA 3 is another step in the right direction,after Dead Space,MC3 and Mass Effect.We shall wait and see what Asphalt 7 brings on the table.But what's your opinion,guys and gals?Are things for Android gaming getting better?Will we really enjoy "cosnole-quality" games from now on?The hardware is surely powerful enough to give the opportunity.And most importantly-are the aforementioned games a sign that NVidia's dream of monopolizing gaming on Android won't come true?I sure hope it's like that(I'll avoid buying a Tegra device as long as I have another choice)
The games are still too short and too simplistic. Best game I've played is Anomaly Warzone Earth.
bleach168 said:
The games are still too short and too simplistic. Best game I've played is Anomaly Warzone Earth.
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The simplicity of games is slowly being fixed.As I said,games like NOVA 3,MC3 and Mass Effect are really good.Anomaly Warzone Earth is good,and is different than other tower defense games.
The information is very interesting. I like the post.
What I don't like about Android as a gaming platform (ex GS2 user) is the fact that nearly every time a very good looking game comes out it makes your hardware outdated. The example with MC3 is a good one: when it came out it lagged in a very annoying way on my GS2. I guess that as soon as say MC4 comes out it will be too much already for the GS3, and so on. Honestly it doesn't sound fair that I have to upgrade every 6-8 months in order to keep up with the latest games just because of rough ports. I really hope that this is gonna change in the future, also because I'm getting an Android tablet (or phablet, I still have to decide) soon, and I'd be pleased if it served me as a gaming console for more than a few months before it can't handle anymore the latest and greatest incarnation of my favorite game. On iOS people can play MC3 100% smooth on a simple iPhone4, we deserve nothing less as end users IMHO.
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What I don't like about Android as a gaming platform (ex GS2 user) is the fact that nearly every time a very good looking game comes out it makes your hardware outdated. The example with MC3 is a good one: when it came out it lagged in a very annoying way on my GS2. I guess that as soon as say MC4 comes out it will be too much already for the GS3, and so on. Honestly it doesn't sound fair that I have to upgrade every 6-8 months in order to keep up with the latest games just because of rough ports. I really hope that this is gonna change in the future, also because I'm getting an Android tablet (or phablet, I still have to decide) soon, and I'd be pleased if it served me as a gaming console for more than a few months before it can't handle anymore the latest and greatest incarnation of my favorite game. On iOS people can play MC3 100% smooth on a simple iPhone4, we deserve nothing less as end users IMHO.
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MC3 has some problems on the GS2.As I said,it plays quite well on the Desire HD,so no issue here.Just on the S2 the level where you are on the back of a truck and shoot others is lagging like hell.It's not that the hardware can't handle it,something is just wrong.It even lags on my overclocked device at that point Apart from that it plays perfectly smoothly.
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Yeah, it probably is device related. However, I found that the textures are more detailed on the GS2 compared to other phones: a friend of mine has a Desire S and I must say that textures are worse on that device. This may actually be the cause of the random laggyness you get at times, maybe the developers overestimated the power of the Exynos SOC when they were working on the port...
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Hardware is getting serious. Games will follow suit.
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Glad my SGSII is a beast and makes even 8-bit games look 2D. Lolololol
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Glad my SGSII is a beast and makes even 8-bit games look 2D. Lolololol
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Dunno about you guys,but I saw a trailer of Dead Trigger and I just realized for the 413513122th time that I hate NVidia so,so much...
tolis626 said:
Dunno about you guys,but I saw a trailer of Dead Trigger and I just realized for the 413513122th time that I hate NVidia so,so much...
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Lol
Daily realisation. Those guys aren't serious, that's why AMD got the PS 4. Qualcomm are stomping all over them with adreno.
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Daily realisation. Those guys aren't serious, that's why AMD got the PS 4. Qualcomm are stomping all over them with adreno.
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Right.NVidia's guys act as if their chips are the best you can find.Still,the super-duper-wow all powerful almighty ULP GeForce GPU in the Tegra 3 is a direct competitor to the Galaxy S 2's GPU,not even the Adreno 225!And they get the best games.How ****ed-up is that?I just hope gaming companies realize that NVidia is full of ****.Sony did at least...
Yep. Games such as Nova 3. Fifa 12. Shadow Gun n many more are ramping up android finally
tolis626 said:
The only area that users of iDevices can really say their devices are undeniably better is gaming.We all know that,and until recently I have to admit I was kinda jealous.I was almost ready to buy an iPad just to play Infinity Blade.Happily I didn't as things are getting better.
Up until recently,the best-looking and closest to console quality games were Dead Space and Asphalt 6.I mean,Angry Birds are nice for making time pass by on the subway,but that's about it.Asphalt 5,NOVA and Modern Combat 2 were so-so,but not nearly enough.Not to mention that NOVA 2 was a disappointment.Graphics were kinda better than NOVA,but gameplay and controls were seriously lacking.GLU games are also somewhat good at the beginning,but are repetitive,they get boring after a while and seriously,I won't spend 50€ in GLU credits as long as my brain serves me well.
Then Modern Combat 3 came out.This was the game I had been waiting about.Graphics,storyline and gameplay-all were awesome.It was the first title that could really claim it was "console quality".Things have got better since,especially with games by Gameloft and EA.Mass Effect is really great too.But my only complaint now is that all these are REALLY short.I ain't the most hardcore gamer,especially on mobile devices,but I finished Mass Effect the day I downloaded it.MC3 may have online mode but bleh,I don't want to sell my house to pay the data bill.Plus when I'm home I have a PC and a PS3,I won't play on my phone normally.
3 days ago NOVA 3 came out.And...OMFG!This is the best-looking game I've ever seen on a mobile device of any kind.And to tell you the truth,I don't think I remember many PS2 games having this kind of graphics.And its gameplay and controls are vastly improved over NOVA 2.It's much closer to MC3 actually.Plus,even MC3 didn't push the hardware to its limits.My Desire HD had no problems playing it with a pretty playable gameplay-it wasn't too noticeable,just not 100% smooth.Not to mention the Galaxy S 2,it didn't break a sweat.But with NOVA 3 things are different.My GS2 struggles to play it properly sometimes.It only plays perfectly if I overclock the GPU,but then it overheats a bit.I won't even bother playing in on the Desire HD and will be waiting for my GS3 to fully enjoy the game in all its glory.I haven't finished it yet-that's a good sign,although I haven't played too much these days.Still,it seems it has some duration and the storyline unfolds nicely.
NOVA 3 is another step in the right direction,after Dead Space,MC3 and Mass Effect.We shall wait and see what Asphalt 7 brings on the table.But what's your opinion,guys and gals?Are things for Android gaming getting better?Will we really enjoy "cosnole-quality" games from now on?The hardware is surely powerful enough to give the opportunity.And most importantly-are the aforementioned games a sign that NVidia's dream of monopolizing gaming on Android won't come true?I sure hope it's like that(I'll avoid buying a Tegra device as long as I have another choice)
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awesome stuff man the games are getting way better.
you said you overclock your S2 right?
you also said your are waiting for the S3, but doesn't the S3 have the same GPU as the S2? i hear its an overclocked Mali-400 @ 400mhz
the S2 is also a Mali-400 at 286 mhz i think... so what did u overclock your S2's GPU? i really wished Sammy used the Mali-T604 GPU but im still on the fence on getting the S3...yes it does have 2GB of RAM but i still haven't found a Android that can match the GPU power of my iphone4S PowerVRSGX543MP2 that is one badass GPU i love Android and what it stands for... but i have yet to find a device worthy enough to replace my iphone4s , i mainly use it for gaming, i do use a android phone for daily use cause android OS works for me better than IOS but not with gaming... maybe ill wait for the adreno 320 or Mali-T604 or Mali-T628....
Anriod game
I think the andriod game is so good.Easy to learn and play.If we can use the tablet to play games.It will be better.More tab,www。netacce.com
tolis626 said:
Right.NVidia's guys act as if their chips are the best you can find.Still,the super-duper-wow all powerful almighty ULP GeForce GPU in the Tegra 3 is a direct competitor to the Galaxy S 2's GPU,not even the Adreno 225!And they get the best games.How ****ed-up is that?I just hope gaming companies realize that NVidia is full of ****.Sony did at least...
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Yeah,nvidia are just confused. Galaxy note owns everything with a tegra 3 IMHO, has more screen and....arrgh,no games. Samsung try with the game hub,but it's not oomph.
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vader540is said:
awesome stuff man the games are getting way better.
you said you overclock your S2 right?
you also said your are waiting for the S3, but doesn't the S3 have the same GPU as the S2? i hear its an overclocked Mali-400 @ 400mhz
the S2 is also a Mali-400 at 286 mhz i think... so what did u overclock your S2's GPU? i really wished Sammy used the Mali-T604 GPU but im still on the fence on getting the S3...yes it does have 2GB of RAM but i still haven't found a Android that can match the GPU power of my iphone4S PowerVRSGX543MP2 that is one badass GPU i love Android and what it stands for... but i have yet to find a device worthy enough to replace my iphone4s , i mainly use it for gaming, i do use a android phone for daily use cause android OS works for me better than IOS but not with gaming... maybe ill wait for the adreno 320 or Mali-T604 or Mali-T628....
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Well,I wished for a better GPU too,but what can we do?
The S3's Mali-MP400 runs at 440MHz,while the S2's GPU runs at 267MHz.Still,the S3 has a quite faster bus,so one could say that an overclocked Mali-MP400 at 400MHz in the S2 is underutilized compared to the S3.
Anyway,the only mobile GPU that can beat the S3's GPU is the iPad 3's GPU.The S3 is miles ahead of the iPhone 4S in GPU power(And everything else in that aspect).However,iOS does have better games-<3 Infinity Blade...
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Yeah,nvidia are just confused. Galaxy note owns everything with a tegra 3 IMHO, has more screen and....arrgh,no games. Samsung try with the game hub,but it's not oomph.
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NVidia are just idiots.They think they'll make much profit from monopolizing Android gaming.However,all that they're managing to do is to make gamers go to iOS.For the time being,all my hopes rest with EA and Gameloft...The others either make crappy games or make them run better(Or only) on Tegra devices.I also hated Madfinger Games.Did you guys see Dead Trigger's trailer?It implies that Tegra 3 is different to Android.Idiots...
I hate that, playing a game especially madfinger ones and the first thing you see is NVIDIA logo. Then you proceed to excellent gameplay only to be hit by some heavy lag(or entire force close) ahead. Really? I want an android game period. Why should I check the innards of my phone everytime a new game is out?
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Well,I wished for a better GPU too,but what can we do?
The S3's Mali-MP400 runs at 440MHz,while the S2's GPU runs at 267MHz.Still,the S3 has a quite faster bus,so one could say that an overclocked Mali-MP400 at 400MHz in the S2 is underutilized compared to the S3.
Anyway,the only mobile GPU that can beat the S3's GPU is the iPad 3's GPU.The S3 is miles ahead of the iPhone 4S in GPU power(And everything else in that aspect).However,iOS does have better games-<3 Infinity Blade...
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yeah your right, the INTL S3 does have a better GPU then my iphone4s , problem is the USA S3 has a adreno 225 GPU.... so ill hold off on getting the S3 untill a phone comes with a adreno 320 or malit604....
I've been playing nova on my htc one x as well as transformer prime, problem is it gets laggy in some areas with full effects chainfire fix (no chainfire means no effects but no lag) however my gs3 plays it fine with chainfire and A 200 quid chinese tablet with dual core rockchip and quad mali400 with chainfire plays it full effects no lag???!!! And to help you understand this the antutu score on chinese tablet is 7560 and all tegra devices are just over 12500 so wtf?! I'm just so annoyed,
All devices running clean rooted ics no mods or tweaks only interactive governor
My nexus 7 plays nova3 with no lag at all...full effects
Plays fine on my prime also. No lag, full effects.
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Plays fine on my prime also. No lag, full effects.
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ditto here.
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Don't give us this bull****... Yes it may play without problem but it's not fully smooth. Runs like a 24 fps movie. Hell the loading times are abysmal. Demandarin I respect you for all the work you've done for us and how positive you've been but don't go as far as lying.... I should be able to run this game on my supposed top of the line tablet with a quad core processor without modifying anything at all. Yet I can't. Game experiences on this tablet have been horrible even with Tegra 3 optimized games.
Sorry if I'm coming out strong but I'm damned tired of this. I have to rma my tablet again just to be able to ota update. Really? Really? Can't even unlock for goodness sakes...
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thanks deadlocked, i thought i was going crazy here and ive been reading the forums of other users complaining. without tweaking anything llike going into development settings max 1 process kill all processes is a temp fix but it doesnt work that well, i shouldnt have to do all that, not sure why a cheap chinese tablet can do this yet an expensive tablet with tegra 3 cant get it right?
i respect the recognized developer above but i thought he was winding me up there as a developer of all people should know there are issues
question now is what can be done, why is this issue even here, how do we resolve this
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thanks deadlocked, i thought i was going crazy here and ive been reading the forums of other users complaining. without tweaking anything llike going into development settings max 1 process kill all processes is a temp fix but it doesnt work that well, i shouldnt have to do all that, not sure why a cheap chinese tablet can do this yet an expensive tablet with tegra 3 cant get it right?
i respect the recognized developer above but i thought he was winding me up there as a developer of all people should know there are issues
question now is what can be done, why is this issue even here, how do we resolve this
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He isn't a dev.... & well.. I'll end there.
As for Tegra 3 ULP Geforce GPU (with 8 spectacular cores)... it isn't a powerhouse GPU. It lacks raw power compared to Mali 400 (and basically all other GPUs)... however, it does have those "oozing" special effects that Nvidia patented.
Also, with single I/O memory controller... with the lack of bandwidth being channeled through during GRAPHIC intensive games... it can have some "FPS" issues.
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Don't give us this bull****... Yes it may play without problem but it's not fully smooth. Runs like a 24 fps movie. Hell the loading times are abysmal. Demandarin I respect you for all the work you've done for us and how positive you've been but don't go as far as lying.... I should be able to run this game on my supposed top of the line tablet with a quad core processor without modifying anything at all. Yet I can't. Game experiences on this tablet have been horrible even with Tegra 3 optimized games.
Sorry if I'm coming out strong but I'm damned tired of this. I have to rma my tablet again just to be able to ota update. Really? Really? Can't even unlock for goodness sakes...
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What's to lie about? Nova3 and all other games do play fine on my Nexus 7. The framerate not slow either. Like I said, it plays great on my NEXUS 7. now for Prime, Nova3 seems to like to crash on mines. So as of now, I honestly don't know how it plays on my prime. But I do have it for my Nexus 7. Even with full effects, nexus 7 handles it with ease. Prime has software shortcomings that is likely what you are experiencing. Plus you have to REMEMBER THIS, EVERYONE PRIME BEHAVES DIFFERENTLY. SO IF THE NEXT MAN SAYS THE GAME WORKS FINE ON HIS PRIME, THEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE HIS WORD FOR IT. IF YOU DONT, PEOPLE WONT BELIEVE YOU EITHER. JUST LIKE NOT EVERYONE PRIME BEHAVES THE SAME AFTER AN UPDATE.
PEOPLE NEED TO STOP ASSUMING THAT JUST BECAUSE YOUR DEVICE SEEMS to Run the game slower, everyone else's must also. PEOPLE ASSUME TO DAMN MUCH UP HERE. These devices are not all the same, unfortunately.
I have to agee with demandarim. I have a prime with 0 wifi issues, unlike most.. also I have mine rooted and clocked to 1.6ghz, also with no issues at all.. Since alot of people have issues with those I agree that no two prime are 100% equil
And if it runs well on other Tegra3 devices like the Nexus 7 .. Then it might be a issues with the Asus software.
I know were not even on a 3.x.x kernel yet.. we have 2.6.39.4.. even that might be an issue..
There is a lot of reasons youre's might be slow.. You can wait for Asus to release new firmware that might resolve you're issues, or you can load a custom rom, that is useing different firmware for you're hardware that is more based around performance.
Everyone here is willing to take there Desktop PC, load the latest drivers for there screencard or what ever, imagen you had to wait for a new release to update the driver? Like complaining Ubuntu 10.2 is craps compared to Ubuntu 11.1cause it doesn't run well on you're Alienware Desktop.. No.. you update the it... cause it fixes it! So if you would update you're out of the box Desktop for 25 more FPS, then THATS WHY WE BOUGHT ANDROID AND NOT APPEL... cause with a little tweaking its better..
appel is like flying business class.. its just fine.. Android/linux is like flying first class, you just get the bolts and spanner on you way in to fasten your seat.. so with a little tweak is better, or you fail to tighten the bolts, and then you complain on XDA forums
I think you should also remember that your chinese tablet has an 800x480 screen, not 1280x800. That's a HUGE different in pixel count, so a slower/cheaper SOC can easily push 30+ frames a second to that screen.
Its just like all other Gameloft games, they are not optimized at all to run with QuadCores or Tegra3 devices. Order and Chaos has the same issues, it doesn't have mind blowing effects and still runs at 24ish fps. Hell even Asphalt 6 doesn't feel like running at 60 fps. While other games with far, far better graphics run smooth like butter even when connected to the TV.
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I think you should also remember that your chinese tablet has an 800x480 screen, not 1280x800. That's a HUGE different in pixel count, so a slower/cheaper SOC can easily push 30+ frames a second to that screen.
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chinese tabet is 1280x800 so its not any less,
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chinese tabet is 1280x800 so its not any less,
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Really? Which one do you have?
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Really? Which one do you have?
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latest Window N101 it also has a chinese name yuanduo n101 or something like that, for 200 bones its a good deal, capacitive multi touch 10 point ips screen, ics 4.0.4. rooted etc. hd screen and plays 720p files smoothly, not tested 1080p it has a dual core rockchip 3066 and quad core mali 400 gpu tablet itself is really nice, i thought the asus would have have performed better than the cheap chinese one, but obviously not in this case, its probably gameloft being lazy and not optimizing for tegra as all tegra games run really smooth even in high activity scenes, large environments, etc.
still peed off thogh
just figured i'd chime in again (because of the controversy,lol)...
i was running androwook 2.1 with motley's lite kernel, o'ced to 1.8
the last time i checked out NOVA3(actually the only time i played it).
i went through a couple of levels and didn't have any issues on my Prime.
lately, i have been running team EOS Jelly Bean, and benchmarks have been down,
even from stock ROM, so i haven't tried to run it lately.
i have been playing Riptide GP tho, and it is still smokin fast!
Since upgrading to JB and updating Dead Trigger, I have only noticed one hiccup right when loading a level, and then no more lag through the rest of the level. Before the update and on ICS the game lagged like crazy for the first 30 seconds then finally cleared up. I'm not sure which one fixed it, but perhaps you should check out the JB rom as well...
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I have to agee with demandarim. I have a prime with 0 wifi issues, unlike most.. also I have mine rooted and clocked to 1.6ghz, also with no issues at all.. Since alot of people have issues with those I agree that no two prime are 100% equil
And if it runs well on other Tegra3 devices like the Nexus 7 .. Then it might be a issues with the Asus software.
I know were not even on a 3.x.x kernel yet.. we have 2.6.39.4.. even that might be an issue..
There is a lot of reasons youre's might be slow.. You can wait for Asus to release new firmware that might resolve you're issues, or you can load a custom rom, that is useing different firmware for you're hardware that is more based around performance.
Everyone here is willing to take there Desktop PC, load the latest drivers for there screencard or what ever, imagen you had to wait for a new release to update the driver? Like complaining Ubuntu 10.2 is craps compared to Ubuntu 11.1cause it doesn't run well on you're Alienware Desktop.. No.. you update the it... cause it fixes it! So if you would update you're out of the box Desktop for 25 more FPS, then THATS WHY WE BOUGHT ANDROID AND NOT APPEL... cause with a little tweaking its better..
appel is like flying business class.. its just fine.. Android/linux is like flying first class, you just get the bolts and spanner on you way in to fasten your seat.. so with a little tweak is better, or you fail to tighten the bolts, and then you complain on XDA forums
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1. Linux Kernel 3.1.1 vs 2.6.39.4 hardly matters.....
Perhaps you didn't know but Linux Kernel 3+ is really 2.6.40 but Linus Torvald simply renamed it to Linux Kernel 3.0...
The changes between the two kernel is minimal (of course, higher is always better in theory.. but here... it is extremely minimal)
If people want to discuss kernel & drivers..... and need someone to blame for multiple issues we have currently... look towards Nvidia FIRST & Asus 2nd (Asus is customer of Nvidia... and they are binded to their work.. sadly)
2. Tegra 3 SoC... no matter how much.. umm.. someone tells you... IS NOT A POWER SoC. It focuses mainly on battery performance (thus the 4+1 technology)... although.. sadly, it doesn't really perform that well in this category either if you look at smartphone sector (S4 HTC One X > Tegra 3 HTC One X).
Anyways, especially with single I/O memory controller, poor kernel/driver integration by Nvidia & Asus (this is assumption), and not very powerful GPU (yes, in terms of raw power... Tegra 3 is crap compared to other GPUs)..... IT CAN HAVE ISSUES during Graphic Intensive Games. IT CAN... as in... if we take Prime for example.... it behaves very radically from device to device.... thus... some will be unfortunate & some very fortunate.
3. I doubt Google wants Android to be portrayed as "tweaker" device. Google's trying their hardest to appeal to the mass public with Nexus 7..... Btw, all the updates & etc you speak of with Desktop.... going from Ubuntu 10.2 to Ubuntu 11.1 are OFFICIAL support. Custom ROMs are not....
deadlocked007 said:
Don't give us this bull****... Yes it may play without problem but it's not fully smooth. Runs like a 24 fps movie. Hell the loading times are abysmal. Demandarin I respect you for all the work you've done for us and how positive you've been but don't go as far as lying.... I should be able to run this game on my supposed top of the line tablet with a quad core processor without modifying anything at all. Yet I can't. Game experiences on this tablet have been horrible even with Tegra 3 optimized games.
Sorry if I'm coming out strong but I'm damned tired of this. I have to rma my tablet again just to be able to ota update. Really? Really? Can't even unlock for goodness sakes...
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This. I couldnt agree more. I was looking for NOVA 3 lag fixes on my Nexus 7 and came across similar posts stating how smooth the game is. It's not smooth. The frame rate is ****. Seems like all of Gamelofts recent titles, lag to hell on Tegra 3. (Amazing Spiderman, Modern Combat 3, Nova 3). Look at videos of Nova 3 running on the Galaxy S3. Now that is smooth.
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This. I couldnt agree more. I was looking for NOVA 3 lag fixes on my Nexus 7 and came across similar posts stating how smooth the game is. It's not smooth. The frame rate is ****. Seems like all of Gamelofts recent titles, lag to hell on Tegra 3. (Amazing Spiderman, Modern Combat 3, Nova 3). Look at videos of Nova 3 running on the Galaxy S3. Now that is smooth.
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Yup they all lag on my N7 and Prime, although there is some hope: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780587 hopefully its true they are working on optimizations for the Tegra 3 platform.
that is bs
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My nexus 7 plays nova3 with no lag at all...full effects
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Dude that is b.s.No offence.you can't install chainfire3D,hence no full effects.TEGRA 3 DOES NOT GET FULL EFFECTS ON NOVA 3.You don't see fire and smoke on the building at the right side in the first level, before you jump off the building you crashed into.Secondly it does lag very badly especially in multiplayer,I am on 620mhz GPU overclock with 1.6ghz CPU with smoothrom 4.1 android 4.1.2
I don't know about Nova 3, but I have to agree that Wild Blood for example is not smooth at all on my Prime.
Backstab on the other hand seems much smoother.
I'll try Nova 3 and let you know. ( Using Latest Energy Rom).
Hello All,
I was wondering how to improve the performance on games such as mc3, horn, and other high graphic games? I heard from someone that ics roms run games faster than gb , and that you also should overclock your device using an app called tegrak overclock. So my question is this: how well does our player run games, and if so how to make the games run smoother or better. Thanks!:laugh:
spartacus279 said:
Hello All,
I was wondering how to improve the performance on games such as mc3, horn, and other high graphic games? I heard from someone that ics roms run games faster than gb , and that you also should overclock your device using an app called tegrak overclock. So my question is this: how well does our player run games, and if so how to make the games run smoother or better. Thanks!:laugh:
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same cpu and gpu as sgs afaik. overclockable to 1.6 ghz stable
KOala888 said:
same cpu and gpu as sgs afaik. overclockable to 1.6 ghz stable
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How do you ovetclock to 1.6?
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spartacus279 said:
Hello All,
I was wondering how to improve the performance on games such as mc3, horn, and other high graphic games? I heard from someone that ics roms run games faster than gb , and that you also should overclock your device using an app called tegrak overclock. So my question is this: how well does our player run games, and if so how to make the games run smoother or better. Thanks!:laugh:
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(This thread should have been posted under Questions, just so you know.)
The Player 4 and 5 both use an SGX540 running at 200MHz. I have both NOVA 3 and MC3 on my Player, and it seems to me that Gameloft has definitely not optimized their Android games as well as they could (example: the 4th generation iPod Touch has a weaker SGX530 GPU and less RAM, yet MC3 runs better).
That said, I have seen people overclock the SGX540 in our Exynos 3110 to anywhere from 210-250MHz. If someone can implement this to a Player kernel, we should be able to do the same, and probably reduce some lag.
As far as Android version- from what I understand (and this may not be correct), 4.0 uses more RAM, so some games might work better on 2.3. I have also seen many reports that Gameloft's games do not work well on 4.0 (more lag and/or crashing), but they may have been updated to fix these issues.
I'm running Android 4.0. I've got an overclock to 1.2GHz. I have set the maximum number of background tasks to only allow 2. This has pretty much completely fixed any lag i've had whatsoever. Even on 2.3! I have MC3 and Nova 3 and they both run fine with the odd jitter every 10 mins but you can expect that with any device. I also bought Gangster Rio but I haven't tried that on Remics UX yet. It ran terrible last time Si used it on ICS Crumble but I didn't have the Background process limit set then so i'll get it and i'll see how it gose. But if you've got ICS Seriously, you will be amazed at what difference it makes. I just hope Modern Combat 4: Zero Hour will run as smoothly!
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(This thread should have been posted under Questions, just so you know.)
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I think this is part of the problem; our forum doesn't have a dedicated Q/A section like most do. For all you people uncertain; ALL QUESTIONS GO IN GENERAL. Never ever post a question in development.
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before the world explodes, I have a quick q, could we make a q& a section? Or ask for it, for the very least? or rename the general section?
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Karim.younus said:
I just hope Modern Combat 4: Zero Hour will run as smoothly!
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I highly doubt it will run at all, unless Gameloft has a version with highly toned-down graphics. NOVA 3 with all effects and graphic elements set to high is nearly unplayable (though it looks incredible), and we know MC4 is more graphically advanced than N3. Even if these Players had a better GPU, though, RAM would still be an issue, and Gameloft might even skip on a PowerVR-optimized MC4 anyways.
I am making custom kernel atm, show me an example of overclocked gpu that we have. Afaik the were tryind to do so with i9000 without success
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I highly doubt it will run at all, unless Gameloft has a version with highly toned-down graphics. NOVA 3 with all effects and graphic elements set to high is nearly unplayable (though it looks incredible), and we know MC4 is more graphically advanced than N3. Even if these Players had a better GPU, though, RAM would still be an issue, and Gameloft might even skip on a PowerVR-optimized MC4 anyways.
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Nova 3 is much more playable for me on GP5 then on Nexus 7 ,you cant set video options so gamelooft set it for you in some awful retarded way and nova 3 lags heavy on mu nexys 7 even its quad core with tegra 3 ,on sg5 graphics is worster but plays smoth.
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DZonikg said:
Nova 3 is much more playable for me on GP5 then on Nexus 7 ,you cant set video options so gamelooft set it for you in some awful retarded way and nova 3 lags heavy on mu nexys 7 even its quad core with tegra 3 ,on sg5 graphics is worster but plays smoth.
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If you look around, you'll see that just about anyone with a Tegra 3 device and a Gameloft game has the same problem. Either the Tegra 3 has a weak GPU, Gameloft fails at optimizing their games, or both.
If you set the graphics of NOVA 3 on the Player to the same level as on the N7, the game becomes unplayable, even though it has to push a much lower resolution. Tying that back in on-topic, as MC4 has more advanced graphics than NOVA 3, it is probably not going to work with the Players.
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If you look around, you'll see that just about anyone with a Tegra 3 device and a Gameloft game has the same problem. Either the Tegra 3 has a weak GPU, Gameloft fails at optimizing their games, or both.
If you set the graphics of NOVA 3 on the Player to the same level as on the N7, the game becomes unplayable, even though it has to push a much lower resolution. Tying that back in on-topic, as MC4 has more advanced graphics than NOVA 3, it is probably not going to work with the Players.
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tegra 3 has very good gpy and with custom kernel you can overclock gpy to blow every other curent android device away..but that gamelooft are so ret..is it so hard to add video options like in every pc game or gta for android ..that is one day job..
DZonikg said:
tegra 3 has very good gpy and with custom kernel you can overclock gpy to blow every other curent android device away..but that gamelooft are so ret..is it so hard to add video options like in every pc game or gta for android ..that is one day job..
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A one day job? One day to re-do / re-render ALL the textures and models ? Also some games DO have options , like Max Payne.
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I highly doubt it will run at all, unless Gameloft has a version with highly toned-down graphics. NOVA 3 with all effects and graphic elements set to high is nearly unplayable (though it looks incredible), and we know MC4 is more graphically advanced than N3. Even if these Players had a better GPU, though, RAM would still be an issue, and Gameloft might even skip on a PowerVR-optimized MC4 anyways.
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I can run Nova with no lag. The thing that was causing the problem I think was the RAM until o set it to 2 background tasks. And also SWAP file support could be another thing to work on to gives more than a 1GB or RAM.
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A one day job? One day to re-do / re-render ALL the textures and models ? Also some games DO have options , like Max Payne.
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Its not one day..its one HOUR job..the game has allready options because every game engine has video option..but with a gamelooft you have to extract option file from ogg file then change on off what you thing ..save and then recreate ogg file again..And only game that gice options is rock star ..they are only developers with brains in android world for now..and off course there is no need to recreate textures..its one command in opengl.
Karim.younus said:
I can run Nova with no lag. The thing that was causing the problem I think was the RAM until o set it to 2 background tasks. And also SWAP file support could be another thing to work on to gives more than a 1GB or RAM.
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I can run it with no lag, too. NOVA 3 for our Players has all the graphical effects disabled, but when they are turned on, the lag is unbearable, which is what I was talking about (I'll make a video showing this). Tying that back in, since MC4 has these graphical effects by default plus a new graphics engine, either the game will not work at all (read: to laggy to play), or Gameloft will greatly downscale the graphics for us (unlikely).
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I can run it with no lag, too. NOVA 3 for our Players has all the graphical effects disabled, but when they are turned on, the lag is unbearable, which is what I was talking about (I'll make a video showing this). Tying that back in, since MC4 has these graphical effects by default plus a new graphics engine, either the game will not work at all (read: to laggy to play), or Gameloft will greatly downscale the graphics for us (unlikely).
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Hmmm. Never knew that. How can I enable the better graphics cause I want to see what it looks like.
Karim.younus said:
Hmmm. Never knew that. How can I enable the better graphics cause I want to see what it looks like.
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Install Chainfire3d from the Market. Open it, install the driver, reboot, and it should be good to go.
However, a few warnings. Campaign will not work, at all. The only way for the game to load and be somewhat playable is to do a local WiFi multiplayer match with just yourself. I also recommend letting it sit for a minute or so after the map (pick a relatively small one) has loaded.
So no campaign? Oh well I'm completely stuck on a mission anyway ha ha.
Karim.younus said:
So no campaign? Oh well I'm completely stuck on a mission anyway ha ha.
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Well, with the full graphics, the game lags too much when doing anything (except for walking around) for the campaign to be playable.
So San Andreas is out in December and I was wondering if our beloved S2 can play it. It's kind of my all-time favourite game and i was hoping i could refresh some old memories. With 1 gb of RAM and a decent processor it should just about make the cut...Can anyone help me with any tricks, maybe some kernels to flash or overclocking which can cause a considerable boost in gaming performance or will siyah or dorimanx not have much of an effect...I know that benchmarks are not always conclusive but I can just about manage to get barely playable framerates on dead trigger 2 high graphics with stock cm 10.2 while i could play it only on low graphics on the stock ROM...This is the first game in which i have experienced any performance issues while modern combat 4, gta 3 and vice city, nfs most wanted, pvz 2, angry birds, fifa 14 etc run like a dream...Any tips for squeezing that last bit of performance and battery life would be greatly appreciated...
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So San Andreas is out in December and I was wondering if our beloved S2 can play it. It's kind of my all-time favourite game and i was hoping i could refresh some old memories. With 1 gb of RAM and a decent processor it should just about make the cut...Can anyone help me with any tricks, maybe some kernels to flash or overclocking which can cause a considerable boost in gaming performance or will siyah or dorimanx not have much of an effect...I know that benchmarks are not always conclusive but I can just about manage to get barely playable framerates on dead trigger 2 high graphics with stock cm 10.2 while i could play it only on low graphics on the stock ROM...This is the first game in which i have experienced any performance issues while modern combat 4, gta 3 and vice city, nfs most wanted, pvz 2, angry birds, fifa 14 etc run like a dream...Any tips for squeezing that last bit of performance and battery life would be greatly appreciated...
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i think you should use PurePerformances X mod(see the thread there is some point says "- Allows you to play ported games without lags"its awesome.
here is the link to the mod:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360985
P.S:i like GTA san andreas very much.
Well i flashed it and things are definitely faster. Dead trigger 2 is playable at high graphics now while battery life hasnt taken a hit. Thanks a lot
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Link to play store gta san andreas?
Don't see it at rockstar inc.
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Well i flashed it and things are definitely faster. Dead trigger 2 is playable at high graphics now while battery life hasnt taken a hit. Thanks a lot
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can you give me fps for dead trigger 2? and what rom plus kernel?
btw san andreas have • Enhanced for the iPhone 5 series and iPad 4th Gen and above with dynamic detailed shadows and real-time environmental reflections.
now we look to other game that do kind of this enhancement too, ravensword shadowland. on our device shadowland run on full effect like 4s/ipad 2 but without the enhancement for iphone 5/ipad 4.
if your curious what the enhancement look like just see ravensword shadowland on iphone 5/ipad 4 on youtube. On the first five minutes of game play, you will meet a big troll. Now on S2 the troll body texture is the same as ipad2/4s while on iphone 5 it have better texture.
It depend on the setting itself, maybe on android full effect setting only have same effect like 4s/ipad 2 or maybe can run on high setting but without shadow.
btw sky gambler air supremacy on our device does'nt have lens flare like ipad 2/4s :crying:
GreekBlood said:
Link to play store gta san andreas?
Don't see it at rockstar inc.
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check this out:http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/11/gta-san-andreas-ios-out-now/;)
LYandroid said:
check this out:http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/11/gta-san-andreas-ios-out-now/;)
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wheeee, amazing!
Our phone will run this since vc runs on ultra without lag.
I hope this game will be running on our s2 at high graphics without lag
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Dude, every one,hear this,GTA san andreas is just released for android its now on google play.
EDIT:now its working for most devices after 1.03 update(even Samsung S3), it should work now on S2 since the GPU is the same as S3.
Sorry for bad enghlish.
Here is a link for the game: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rockstargames.gtasa&hl=en
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perfomance review pls at max setting
GTA SA works flawlessly with no lags on high settings on my GS2 running Stock Official 4.1.2. No Root, No Custom Kernel
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Seriously, the graphics are down scaled a lot compared to pc...
(look pics at google play)
GreekBlood said:
Seriously, the graphics are down scaled a lot compared to pc...
(look pics at google play)
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have you see the game on other device? especially on non mali gpu? the screenshot is same on google play and the game itself on galaxy note 3 with max setting (from some site) from my perspective the graphic have ugly and flat texture. I see some people share ss on adreno devices and the texture is better compared on note 3/google play. I believe the mali version have toned down texture and polygon. the character itself look ugly compared to ps2 version.
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have you see the game on other device? especially on non mali gpu? the screenshot is same on google play and the game itself on galaxy note 3 with max setting (from some site) from my perspective the graphic have ugly and flat texture. I see some people share ss on adreno devices and the texture is better compared on note 3/google play. I believe the mali version have toned down texture and polygon. the character itself look ugly compared to ps2 version.
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ps2 is vga, on pc you can get to hdmi (much better quality)
But my question is,
Is the whole story ported? All the missions and side missions?
GreekBlood said:
ps2 is vga, on pc you can get to hdmi (much better quality)
But my question is,
Is the whole story ported? All the missions and side missions?
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i m not talking about the resolution, oh well just forget it...
i haven't tested it yet, still waiting for stable version
Yes everything is ported, I'm in San Fierro now . And 1.0.3 is the stable version. R* have confirmed this.
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Well, generaly, even if such games work on my SGSII, my device burns as hell after 15mins of gameplay..
(I have to keep it plugged in for battery would drain in 10min otherwise x) )
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run fine on neatrom lite debloated 5.4.2 + pure perfomance mod
the game seems lock on 24 - 28 fps no matter setting used ,even when frame limiter off hover around 28-31 fps, remind's me of ps2 version
run fine on max setting except shadow and car reflection on low,
little slow down with crowded traffic if use detailed car reflection and med shadow
stutter when shadow and car reflection on max
amdultra said:
run fine on neatrom lite debloated 5.4.2 + pure perfomance mod
the game seems lock on 24 - 28 fps no matter setting used ,even when frame limiter off hover around 28-31 fps, remind's me of ps2 version
run fine on max setting except shadow and car reflection on low,
little slow down with crowded traffic if use detailed car reflection and med shadow
stutter when shadow and car reflection on max
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that sounds good:good:,does the game performing well when the phone is connected to MHL/hdmi adapter on TV??????
LYandroid said:
that sounds good:good:,does the game performing well when the phone is connected to MHL/hdmi adapter on TV??????
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i dont know , i dont have mhl/hdmi adapter maybe you can buy me one? i will test it :laugh:
btw i notice no matter low res,graphics or draw distance , the game will stutter if use car detail more than low and shadow more than classic. If seems the mali doesn't have enough power to run those two(vertex bound). If you want to play this game smoothly on all max, you need min a device with adreno 305 gpu with max res at 720p. so just turn off shadow and car detail if you want to play this game smoothly. I use classic shadow and low car detail and the effect look like PS2 version , it's okay btw for me
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Code SyGma said:
GTA SA works flawlessly with no lags on high settings on my GS2 running Stock Official 4.1.2. No Root, No Custom Kernel
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what setting you use for shadow and car detail? and how many FPS you get? (try with FPS meter)
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsun...amsung-game-tuner-2-0-5-android-apk-download/
New version of Game Tuner supports Tab S 8.4 & 10.5.
installed on stock android on the tab s 8.0... it's asking to install game service, but game service isn't available :/
Do you notice any difference when using game tuner about battery life and which mode do you use?
Starlord said:
Do you notice any difference when using game tuner about battery life and which mode do you use?
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some game more noticeable than others
with most supercell games, if you set the screen below 75% = pixelate.
I didn't notice an improvement with battery life in supercell games. And yes, you are right about graphics quality.
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Starlord said:
I didn't notice an improvement with battery life in supercell games. And yes, you are right about graphics quality.
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What are Supercell games? Have you played Mobius FF? I would like to find someone who has played this game using game tuner on Tab S 8.4 to see if it's possible to get 60fps. I have a Galaxy Note 3 and Game Tuner is not compatible, therefore I cannot improve game perfomance on my phone and thus I am thinkking about buying the Tab S8.4 since it's compatible.
Supercell us local terminology 4 huge tornado... red necks...... dnt worry, this thread so as those necks gets old