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Hi guys
I'm thinking about getting the Galaxy S2. If I download LauncherPro will it rearrange the app tray to be in a mode where all the apps are on one page and you scroll down to look at them (ie. like in the Nexus S and basically all other Android phones)?
I love the phone but I just hate how they copied the iPhone's app tray...I hate Apple! If not I don't think it would be a deal breaker...but we'll see.
I also saw that now the Atrix's bootloader is unlocked...so now I'm unsure of which one to get. They're both good phones and now that the Atrix's bootloader is unlocked it can actually compete with the GS2 (I think?)
What do you think/suggest?
Thanks,
Elliott
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Yes you can use any other launcher and most (Including LauncherPro) have vertical scolling app launchers. Personally I'm a fan of the TW app drawer after coming from LP but both have their merits.
As for the dev scene, I had a quick look over on the atrix forum and the activity on the S2 dev section seems much more active already. Not to forget that the S2 hasn't hit the US market so a good few devs probably don't have their hands on it yet. I'd say that the atrix dev section will heat up pretty soon but the S2s will still dwarf it if the current trend is anything to go by.
Not before this is another comparison thread but i believe the gs2 dev community>atrix dev com. There are a number of new chefs everyday here
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Thanks guys I'm not trying to make a comparison thread between the 2 phones because I know what that can turn into. Anyway I made another thread here asking about the phone so anyone can refer to it if they want:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1148156
Tuesday, October 23, 2012
XDA Members and Galaxy Note II Owners:
Some of you may have noticed a particularly interesting article on the XDA-News page today. It pertains to the presence of a feature hidden within stock, 4.1.1, Galaxy S III ROMs. This feature is an extension of the Smart Stay functionality introduced alongside the Galaxy S III and it is called "Smart Rotation". Now, before posting this, I did a quick search and a quick pass through the Galaxy Note II forum and I found no posts pertaining to this. However, if I did miss something, please let me know and I will request that the mods delete or lock my thread.
Anyway, as I read the article, and then the thread about which it was written, I started to think it is very likely that Samsung introduced this very same feature into GT-N7100/GT-N7105 ROMs as well. Considering the not-so-negligible similarities between the GT-I9300 and the GT-N7100, as well as the GT-I9305 and the GT-N7105, I think this is more than enough reason to see if this feature can be enabled on the Galaxy Note II as well.
Unfortunately, as much as I would like to create a CWM-Flashable *.zip which contains this mod, I will not have access to my desktop or notebook until the end of next week. Also, in the interest of being completely honest, I really only use my notebook to manage, restore, etc. my multiple mobile devices and not much else. As far as my desktop goes, it hasn't even been powered on since 2010. I use my Galaxy Note II and my Galaxy Note 10.1 for 99.999% of my computing tasks. Before that, I used a Galaxy S III and a Galaxy Tab 7.7 (Which, oddly enough, was my favorite device combination ever!!). Before that, I used an OG Galaxy Note and a rooted B&N NOOK Tablet. Before that, I used a Galaxy S II Skyrocket with a rooted and CM7-flashed B&N NOOK Color. See a pattern? So, I'm pretty sure you're starting to get an idea of what types of things I pack with me on a business trip. Obviously, this is one of those times when I SHOULD have packed my notebook.
In any case, since I have no reliable means of decompiling an *.apk, recompiling an *.apk, or making said *.apk part of a CWM package, I'll have to ask the community for help. So, is there anyone out there who feels up to the challenge? Yes. I know it's not really a "challenge". It's more of a task. However, you'd probably rack up a buttload of "Thanks" if you created a bug-free, CWM-Flashable package that enables "Smart Rotation". So, like I said, if anyone's interested in taking this on, please feel free to chime in. A link to the original thread is below. Good hunting!!
Original thread for JB builds on the GS3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32708060
Thank you all,
Edward Mc Knight (Mister_Mxyzptlk)
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Im confused! This feature isn't hidden at all, its clearly presented in the display section of the settings just under smart stay.
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^^No need for confusion, it's just been misunderstood/misreported in the News article as relevant to the Note II.
This feature comes stock on the N7100, no mods or anything needed to enable it, it sits alongside "Smart Stay" in the display options
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This feature comes stock on the N7100, no mods or anything needed to enable it, it sits alongside "Smart Stay" in the display options
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Damn. Just updated my N7100 and there it was. It wasn't an option on my previous build. However, XXALJ1 and XXALJ3 seem to have it. Well, this thread was short-lived. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Hmm, that clears the initial confusion as to why this was posted anyways, it would have been an impressive mod if this feature was not present by default. Cheers mate.
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I've seen a little bit of talk about this now that we have some AOSP ROMs and personally would like to see this happen but I know that if I just go make a request to someone like the Cyanogenmod team I'll probably not get a response or just be told they're considering it and that's it(I could be wrong). So I'm making this thread to find out just how many people are interested in this and figure out how we should get a hold of whoever can make it happen.
I don't want to get a bunch of people to just start mass email/post/calling anyone into submission. These dev's are already doing a lot of great things for us and I don't want to ruin that. I would really rather give Google an idea of how many people want this feature or already have it through one of Samsung's ROMs and would like to keep it with AOSP so that maybe they won't give the AOSP dev's such a hard time.
So go ahead and chime in if you want multi-window for AOSP and if you know who we should get a hold of or have a good idea of how we should go about asking or if you're a dev who's tired of people always asking for features and just wants me to shut up.
In case you haven't seen cornerstone it's similar to Samsungs multi-window. http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/
In case you haven’t heard the story between Google and Cyanogen about cornerstone yet. http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/samsung-adds-multi-window-despite-threat-from-google-2012109/
and https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/ViCME1bb8F6
I want
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yes please!
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I would love it, the best ROMs are gonna be stock, but the multi window feature in touchwiz is keeping me from stock, so this would be perfect
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+1
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No thanks. CM isn't going to risk it. Google allows CM to use their proprietary apps and gives CM users access to the market and other Google services. If multi-window modes are going to risk that relationship then I don't want it.
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No thanks. CM isn't going to risk it. Google allows CM to use their proprietary apps and gives CM users access to the market and other Google services. If multi-window modes are going to risk that relationship then I don't want it.
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I understand that and I know that's why CM didn't pursue it before but I think that now that Samsung has gone ahead and made multi-window available it gives us a good precedence, especially if they start using it on more phones than the note 2, like the S3. I think the big thing would be making it only work for apps that specifically state that they work with cornerstone the same way that Samsung does. I know it's a small amount of apps right now but once it hits a certain point most developers would hopefully make it standard when they make their apps and the ones that won't play nice with odd screen sizes can be left to run full screen. I'm just hoping that if they implement it they can use the same flag in apps that Samsung does so that so that app devs have a little more of a reason to make their apps use it for multi-window on AOSP and sammy ROMs.
I haven't found an app that doesn't work. Haven't really tried with games but did check a few with no problems. It works Google should roll it out.
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I think in this case Google is too worried about catering to the lowest denominator - ie. the people with smaller less known android phones rather than beasts like the S3/Nexus 4/DNA/Note 2 and their misguided complaints that their new device can't run the core OS properly.
I asked Entropy about it in IRC a couple nights ago but he said it really makes no difference even with Samsung implementing Multi window. I looked into cornerstone but it seems a bit outdated. It was last updated 10 months ago.
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It hasn't be updated to work with Jelly Bean yet, they are still working off of ICS source.
Thanks slick_rick and imnuts glad to hear some input from a developer. I've done a little research and haven't found any JB ROMs using it so darn. Unless it gets updated or if anyone thinks that Samsungs multi-window can be ported to non touch-wiz roms. I should go see if I can get a hold of anyone at onskreen to see if they have any plans on updating.
Which do you prefer and why?
I prefer stock touchwiz, 100% reliable and the TW camera takes better pictures than AOSP.
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There is already a thread discussing this, though it has been derailed by the asinine "battery life" talk. Why people want to see how many days their phone can go without charging it I don't know.
I prefer aosp, but I use TW more because so far voice dialing over BT doesn't work on aosp and the volume is very low.
The theme engines on aosp as well as the reassigning soft button functions are very nice features.
I hardly use the s-pen or the multi window.
I prefer AOKP (AOSP) simply because of the look and certain functionality... You have a lot more features in AOKP than TW. But it also depends on the TW based ROM you install.. If you like the s-note and multi windows functions of TW you're better off with that ROM but things like ribbons soft keys 4.2.+ only apps (dash clock for example) and general UI themes, if you like that and can sacrifice the volume and the aforementioned calling over BT than AOKP is the way to go.. But over all stability and stock features that identify this phone as a Note 2, then a TW based ROM is what you want.. I recommend Jellybeans ROM
To be honest. It really depends on the user. Samsung spent a lot of time putting in features for their own version of Android. SPen functions that work for the people that use them and extras that keep the phone at the for front of app ability. If you have no intention of using the phone for what it was built for,love the essential specs then AOSP is for you. I myself like the functions and capability of Sammy in this aspect. As a long time HTC lover and Avid Sammy hater, have come to like the built in Samsung features. I love to hate this phone. As a person that is currently with a group of others suing Sammy over the Behold. I actually like this phone. Like all other companies, Samsung has created a very decent hardware phone and the feature set from them has made it work even better. Do I miss my HTC Sense features. OF course. Sense makes phones easy. But I've learned to make it work for me. End result, AOSP is too bland and short for me. I like ANDROID because I can make it my own. Customization is almost as easy on this is the same as others. I don't like Samsung's blatant Apple icon copy, but I know how to make it my own.
I prefer TW
I prefer AOSP, but until there's no gps issues I don't run it all the time. A lot Iof people say there are work a rounds, but I've learned from other phones that if gps isn't 100% working it'll mess up when you really need it even if it has been working. I really love multi window but not enough to overcome everything I hate about touchwiz.
TW until PA3.5 is ported I use multi windows too much and as far as I know the sammy keyboard is the only one that supports one-handed operation AND swype.
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TW. I cant live without multiwindow
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To be honest. It really depends on the user. Samsung spent a lot of time putting in features for their own version of Android. SPen functions that work for the people that use them and extras that keep the phone at the for front of app ability. If you have no intention of using the phone for what it was built for,love the essential specs then AOSP is for you. I myself like the functions and capability of Sammy in this aspect. As a long time HTC lover and Avid Sammy hater, have come to like the built in Samsung features. I love to hate this phone. As a person that is currently with a group of others suing Sammy over the Behold. I actually like this phone. Like all other companies, Samsung has created a very decent hardware phone and the feature set from them has made it work even better. Do I miss my HTC Sense features. OF course. Sense makes phones easy. But I've learned to make it work for me. End result, AOSP is too bland and short for me. I like ANDROID because I can make it my own. Customization is almost as easy on this is the same as others. I don't like Samsung's blatant Apple icon copy, but I know how to make it my own.
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So let me get this straight. You hate Samsung, and you are commenting on a Note 2 Poll, you own the Note 2 and are a part of a group suing Samsung, but you say you love to hate this phone and later say you " I actually like this phone" And you say you prefer HTC but your sig reveals that you use a Rezound, which is not a very good HTC phone... pardon me but can I have some of what your smoking:silly:
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So let me get this straight. You hate Samsung, and you are commenting on a Note 2 Poll, you own the Note 2 and are a part of a group suing Samsung, but you say you love to hate this phone and later say you " I actually like this phone" And you say you prefer HTC but your sig reveals that you use a Rezound, which is not a very good HTC phone... pardon me but can I have some of what your smoking:silly:
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Have you read why there is a lawsuit against Samsung for the Behold "scandal"?
Check it out:
http://gizmodo.com/5549228/samsung-behold-ii-users-consider-suing-over-android-20-snub
In my mind that's a frivolous lawsuit.....
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They pulled an Apple.
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Have you read why there is a lawsuit against Samsung for the Behold "scandal"?
Check it out:
http://gizmodo.com/5549228/samsung-behold-ii-users-consider-suing-over-android-20-snub
In my mind that's a frivolous lawsuit.....
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shangrila500 said:
Have you read why there is a lawsuit against Samsung for the Behold "scandal"?
Check it out:
http://gizmodo.com/5549228/samsung-behold-ii-users-consider-suing-over-android-20-snub
In my mind that's a frivolous lawsuit.....
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And here I thought I was an idiot for buying a Droid Eris for my first Android phone :laugh:
Dang that Behold is an old phone released in 2008. Here I thought my 2010 Epic 4G is old.
AOSP doesnt show my external sd card
Just to throw out my 2 cents..... Coming from a GNex, I was running 4.2.2 and thought it was great. I was due for an upgrade and got the Note 2. I thought I was taking a step back with 4.1.2, but I have to say, everything just works! No issues with GPS anymore, no battery drain (although there is no comparison to the battery of the gnex next to the note 2). I am reluctant to flash anything 4.2.2, because I don't want to have to worry if the things I need my phone to do for both work and personal use is going to work. I have to say, I would love to flash a couple AOSP roms, they look like they are making progress on the bugs by leaps and bounds, but until I can "count" on 99% of my phone working without issue..... Ima sticking to touchwiz based roms.
I prefer TW because of two main reasons.
1. Group texting
2. Better radio
With AOSP based roms, I get a constant roaming message at home. I don't get service here and have a network extender. Don't have this roaming issue with TW based stuff.
Group texting just doesnt work on AOSP. Yes I have the settings for group texting checked and all that I've read states that group texting works in 4.2.2 but I surely haven't seen it work.
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Touchwiz for the fact I need to everything to function properly on my device. I use to play with AOSP alot but these days TW is spot on and all I use. I do like AOSP 4.2.2 on my Transformer...its my new crack flash device.
let me preface this topic by saying that this an observation rather than a criticism.
does anyone think that the Original Android Development forum for the Verizon S4 is moving slower than it did for the S3? I had the privilege of owning both devices when they were launched and it seems like the S3 had a more active Original Android Development community. does anyone else agree? and if so, is there a reason why? I thought it might have to do with 4.3 being around the corner but I didn't know if there was anything else or if this device just isn't as popular.
post your 2 cents.
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trbman said:
let me preface this topic by saying that this an observation rather than a criticism.
does anyone think that the Original Android Development forum for the Verizon S4 is moving slower than it did for the S3? I had the privilege of owning both devices when they were launched and it seems like the S3 had a more active Original Android Development community. does anyone else agree? and if so, is there a reason why? I thought it might have to do with 4.3 being around the corner but I didn't know if there was anything else or if this device just isn't as popular.
post your 2 cents.
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I remember around last summer there were really only three TW roms.Beans,Synergy,cleanrom. It takes some time to get these devices into the right peoples hands. The DEV crowd is coming. for sure
coming from a droid bionic I've thought the Dev community is great for the vzw gs4. plenty of roms and kernels to choose from
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Its never going to be as vibrant as a nexus device. My other main device is an N7 which has an enormous dev scene, but think about it...no carriers, no cell radios, same device worldwide, first nexus tablet, given away at the IO...all of those things meant pretty much every dev got one. It has more kernels than most devices have ROMS.
But really, the device is like two weeks old. We are lucky we can even flash at this point.
Coming from an HTC device, let's just say I'm thrilled with what we have so early into the phone's life.
I came from a DROID Charge. That device had only one Rom, and one kernel. This is incredible to me.
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In all honesty I think it may have something to do with the fact that TW is more tolerable now than it was back when the s3 was released.
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In all honesty I think it may have something to do with the fact that TW is more tolerable now than it was back when the s3 was released.
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This. Usually I immediately go to AOSP no matter what state of working it is in when I get a phone. On this one, TW hasn't really driven me away yet.
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I always preferred AOSP over the native phone software because over time the phones would become dogs running on stock and I felt AOSP breathed new life into them. Right now TW on the S4 feels great and stable, but I am in Synergy currently ...
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